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It has always driven me insane that they have made such a big deal about the Photo ID thing.

I myself really do try to look at all the issues they bring up, and every once in a blue moon I agree.  I mean a very slim small blue moon.

But this one to me is just a no brain-er.  I mean people having to show a Photo to prove who the hell they are to vote and elect people who run our country.

And them being upset about this issue just goes to show their true intentions on keeping the voter fraud intact.

My state passed this law, but also passed a law that if you are on government assistance you can get a free ID.  Argument squashed.
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1. Perhaps we will hear from those that approve of this bill?

Fs, people that live on a street named after a President, OR maybe somebody smarter than me might find a list of those groups that endorse LB 239.

Fs?  There he goes with his stupid veiled threats again.

Little stevee wants someone "smarter than me" to provide a list of those who support.  I'll do him one better.  I'm infinately more intelligent than he can ever hope to be, so I'll explain to him about the main reason the groups he listed are against the bill becoming law and why it's illogical.

They claim that voter ID is racist.  That's the basis of their complaints.

What little stevee needs to do is answer this.

Today railroads and hotels, along with almost all providers of public accommodations in almost all circumstances, are prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race. So what happens when you ride on Amtrak, the government-subsidized railroad? You hear an announcement over the PA system advising you to be prepared to show your identification if the conductor asks to see it.

Likewise, these days there is a good chance you will be asked for identification when you check into a hotel. You need ID to board an airplane or to drive a car. Recently I visited a doctor whose office is in a hospital. Just to enter the premises, I needed to present ID to a security guard.

If black people have trouble producing identification, how come nobody ever claims that these requirements are discriminatory?

Another important aspect of civil rights is equal employment opportunity. Under the 1986 immigration law, when you are hired for a job, you are required to provide your employer with documents proving both your identity and your citizenship or legal residency. How come nobody ever claims these requirements discriminate against blacks?

It is possible that the ID requirements for planes, trains, automobiles, hotels, hospitals and jobs have justifications so compelling as to justify discrimination. It is also possible that, by contrast, preventing election fraud is not a sufficiently compelling justification. The point here is that no one has ever had to make the former argument, because nobody claims ID requirements are discriminatory against blacks except when it comes to voting.

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Fs?  There he goes with his stupid veiled threats again.

Little stevee wants someone "smarter than me" to provide a list of those who support.  I'll do him one better.  I'm infinately more intelligent than he can ever hope to be, so I'll explain to him about the main reason the groups he listed are against the bill becoming law and why it's illogical.

They claim that voter ID is racist.  That's the basis of their complaints.

What little stevee needs to do is answer this.

Today railroads and hotels, along with almost all providers of public accommodations in almost all circumstances, are prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race. So what happens when you ride on Amtrak, the government-subsidized railroad? You hear an announcement over the PA system advising you to be prepared to show your identification if the conductor asks to see it.

Likewise, these days there is a good chance you will be asked for identification when you check into a hotel. You need ID to board an airplane or to drive a car. Recently I visited a doctor whose office is in a hospital. Just to enter the premises, I needed to present ID to a security guard.

If black people have trouble producing identification, how come nobody ever claims that these requirements are discriminatory?

Another important aspect of civil rights is equal employment opportunity. Under the 1986 immigration law, when you are hired for a job, you are required to provide your employer with documents proving both your identity and your citizenship or legal residency. How come nobody ever claims these requirements discriminate against blacks?

It is possible that the ID requirements for planes, trains, automobiles, hotels, hospitals and jobs have justifications so compelling as to justify discrimination. It is also possible that, by contrast, preventing election fraud is not a sufficiently compelling justification. The point here is that no one has ever had to make the former argument, because nobody claims ID requirements are discriminatory against blacks except when it comes to voting.

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The below plus the OP is the entire bonfire:

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:22 PM
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1. Perhaps we will hear from those that approve of this bill?

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Fs, people that live on a street named after a President, OR maybe somebody smarter than me might find a list of those groups that endorse LB 239.


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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)Mon Jan 9, 2012, 06:57 AM
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Take the hint from your fellow DUmbasses Steve.

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Fs?  There he goes with his stupid veiled threats again.

Little stevee wants someone "smarter than me" to provide a list of those who support.  I'll do him one better.  I'm infinately more intelligent than he can ever hope to be, so I'll explain to him about the main reason the groups he listed are against the bill becoming law and why it's illogical.

They claim that voter ID is racist.  That's the basis of their complaints.

What little stevee needs to do is answer this.

Today railroads and hotels, along with almost all providers of public accommodations in almost all circumstances, are prohibited from discriminating on the basis of race. So what happens when you ride on Amtrak, the government-subsidized railroad? You hear an announcement over the PA system advising you to be prepared to show your identification if the conductor asks to see it.

Likewise, these days there is a good chance you will be asked for identification when you check into a hotel. You need ID to board an airplane or to drive a car. Recently I visited a doctor whose office is in a hospital. Just to enter the premises, I needed to present ID to a security guard.

If black people have trouble producing identification, how come nobody ever claims that these requirements are discriminatory?

Another important aspect of civil rights is equal employment opportunity. Under the 1986 immigration law, when you are hired for a job, you are required to provide your employer with documents proving both your identity and your citizenship or legal residency. How come nobody ever claims these requirements discriminate against blacks?

It is possible that the ID requirements for planes, trains, automobiles, hotels, hospitals and jobs have justifications so compelling as to justify discrimination. It is also possible that, by contrast, preventing election fraud is not a sufficiently compelling justification. The point here is that no one has ever had to make the former argument, because nobody claims ID requirements are discriminatory against blacks except when it comes to voting.

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We already are stuck with a majority of R voters. I guess R leaders are afraid they will jump ship.

Can anyone explain to me what the above quote from Steve meant?  It's some sort of twisted logic but I just...can't...get it. 

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Can anyone explain to me what the above quote from Steve meant?  It's some sort of twisted logic but I just...can't...get it. 

Let me take a shot . . . by insinuating that they may "jump ship," he thinks that they will go to him.  Steve, let me say this now--not a ****ing chance, especially when they find out about your socialist leanings. :yahoo:
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Let me take a shot . . . by insinuating that they may "jump ship," he thinks that they will go to him.  Steve, let me say this now--not a ****ing chance, especially when they find out about your socialist leanings. :yahoo:

The people of Bellevue are waiting, and franksolich from up here on the roof of Nebraska is waiting breathlessly, for my fellow Nebraskan to unveil his platform; to tell us what he's going to do for the people of that city.

However, I don't think Omaha's Ed Norton was ever serious about running.

Omaha Steve has a reputation for being rashly impulsive, for doing whatever feels "good" at the moment, and the afternoon he made his announcement was one of those things.  He felt hyped, he felt jolly, he felt a lack of attention, and so made this bombastic announcement so as to feel good.

That's just the way he is.

That he isn't serious is betrayed by that he continues to hang around the primitives on Skins's island, when reason dictates he should've ditched it before making his announcement, so that no one would connect his real name in real life with that of Omaha Steve on the internet.

My fellow Nebraskan's like some white guy who continues to post on a Ku Klux Klan message board while running for office in a heavily-majority black district; if he doesn't see that, I'll have to re-evaluate my high estimation of him.
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The people of Bellevue are waiting, and franksolich from up here on the roof of Nebraska is waiting breathlessly, for my fellow Nebraskan to unveil his platform; to tell us what he's going to do for the people of that city.

However, I don't think Omaha's Ed Norton was ever serious about running.

Omaha Steve has a reputation for being rashly impulsive, for doing whatever feels "good" at the moment, and the afternoon he made his announcement was one of those things.  He felt hyped, he felt jolly, he felt a lack of attention, and so made this bombastic announcement so as to feel good.

That's just the way he is.

That he isn't serious is betrayed by that he continues to hang around the primitives on Skins's island, when reason dictates he should've ditched it before making his announcement, so that no one would connect his real name in real life with that of Omaha Steve on the internet.

My fellow Nebraskan's like some white guy who continues to post on a Ku Klux Klan message board while running for office in a heavily-majority black district; if he doesn't see that, I'll have to re-evaluate my high estimation of him.

It would have also helped a lot to not have posted his real name over on the island of misfit toys as well.
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It would have also helped a lot to not have posted his real name over on the island of misfit toys as well.

That would've come out sooner or later, if anybody would've thought to connect the candidate with the primitive.

But the longer Omaha's Ed Norton was away from Skins's island, the more remote the chance anyone would've thought of that.

The record of primitives announcing their candidacy for some office on Skins's island is currently 0-6 I think, and they all were done in by their association with an extreme left-wing hate message board.


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That would've come out sooner or later, if anybody would've thought to connect the candidate with the primitive.

But the longer Omaha's Ed Norton was away from Skins's island, the more remote the chance anyone would've thought of that.

The record of primitives announcing their candidacy for some office on Skins's island is currently 0-6 I think, and they all were done in by their association with an extreme left-wing hate message board.




I swear OmahaSteve must be an attention Whore of some kind. On another thread he posted about ALF burning 10 trucks with home made bombs and not a peep from him about how despicable an act it was. All this posting on DU no matter the reason or cause, he just keeps posting to see what kind of reaction his fellow DUmpmonkies will give. Keep going Steve you will feed yourself enough rope to hang yourself with before that election starts.
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