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Current Events => The DUmpster => The DUmping Ground => Topic started by: delilahmused on May 13, 2008, 04:22:58 AM
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TiT's Greatest Hits: A Musical Retrospective of the 2nd Most Highly Decorated Enlisted Man in the Navy.
OK, as I'm going through the various TiT threads I keep getting distracted by the sheer volume of his musical works. It's taking me twice as long to get to all the other amazing things he's done. I thought it only proper to honor such profound talent by creating a songbook of sorts. Since TiT will be going into the studio to record soon it might be helpful to him to have his repertoire together in one place (as he himself has admitted to being an alcoholic, one imagines his memory suffers). It's the least we can do to honor such a highly decorated veteran...and the ONLY member of SEAL Team 3 during the Vietnam War. Plus, as vacation season is upon us, and given the DUmmies reverence for nature and lack of money in this horrid Bush economy, camping will be a popular excursion for the primitives on Skin's Island. They can dance and sing to the music of one of their very own war heros.
I'm just going to copy and paste, although I do have screen caps of his music on my computer in case they disappear down the memory hole at DU. Note: for those of you who want an excellent free screen capturing utility check out Jarte, http://www.jarte.com (http://www.jarte.com). It not only does a great job of capturing but is a superb Wordpad replacement.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-02-06 03:54 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. Here's one for ya', NG..
This is for a friend of mine...
Bad JuJu...
Death Row..
Things don't always work out like our parents dreamed.
Now I shoot the Darkness down
I puncture what is swollen
And sometime I'll tear it down
Just to keep it rolling
But pictures some years gone by
and someone who can't do that
Then step back and tell me how
You get somebody thru that
When they know that soon the axe will fall
Judge not somebody hopeless
Or anyone who can't quite focus
Kill what you can that is not pure
And take the black angel cure.
Actually, there was a whole lot of drivel in front of that thing, but I am much too slow on the keyboard.
T
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-12-06 10:33 PM
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Driving Across America (for Tom Yossarian Joad)
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The gentle winds of change, I hear the sound
It stirs the quiet desert sand
I ride the rails of joy and sorrow down
Into the canyons of this Land
Thru my windshield I see Fear and Faith
Rich and Poor from town to town
One owns a Bible and one owns a safe
But neither walk on common ground
Tonight I'm driving across America
Mister, can I talk to you?
Tonight I'm driving across America
Oh, say, can't you see what I've been through?
I see a Black Man with his hands held high
I see a fatherless son
I see a policeman who wonders why
He keeps his tears locked in his gun
And I see a White Man with his eyes blood red
'cause he's been told what he should feel
And I see too many women cut to shreds
And taking half their lives to heal
Tonight I'm driving across America
Mister, can I talk to you?
Tonight I'm driving across America
Oh, say, can you see what I see, too?
We rise and fall from Sea to Shining Sea
Balancing Freedom and Change
Waiting for a Purple Mountain Majesty
To be our Saviour when it rains
Tonight I'm driving across America
Mister, can I talk to you?
Tonight I'm driving across America
Oh, say, can you see what I see through?
Let's make this songbook SING!!!! Please post other "greatest hits" by TiT.
Cindie
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I'll start the ball rolling :
Track 01 : "I was a badass back in 'nam"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon May-29-06 01:40 PM
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12. USN '69-72. Pilot,PBR, Qua Viet River, Quang Tri, Dong Ha.
Some longrange recon into Laos attached to Marine SF.
I was foolish enough to go to celestial navigation school. Big mistake.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-19-06 03:10 AM
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5. Today, anything can "happen"
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 03:23 AM by TomInTib
I am on the "watch list"
I miss every initial air-flight because the idiots at TSA screw with me, incessantly.
And I am the 2nd-most-decorated enlisted man in the history of the US Navy.
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Track 02 : "I'm a Real Badass even today"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-11-07 01:13 AM
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Hey! Freeper Pencil-Dicks!
Edited on Thu Oct-11-07 01:18 AM by TomInTib
I have seen you stalking me behind the Mommy-safety of your chickenshit monitors.
Yeah, I am a multiple-convicted Felon.
And I have illegal weapons.
And I possess killer reefer (parole violation, pussies).
And I watch you talk about me.
And I piss on your mother's graves.
Cock off, bitches.
For I have no fear of Chickenshit Loonies.
Your Friend,
Tom
on edit:
I am going to post this every day until one of you pencil-dicks has the balls to respond.
Tom
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-11-07 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. **** 'em, Beth...
They do not intimidate me in the least.
I have actually considered posting my Home Address to see if the wussies would show up.
I am armed harder than their fondest wet dream.
But I am a really nice guy.
Until it comes to Freeper Pencil-Dicks.
Damn, I am hoping they are picking up on all of this.
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Track 03 : "I know people y'hear"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-01-06 10:01 PM
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3. I have a friend who is ex-Special Forces and has always voted
Republican. All his life, without fail.
One of the most conservative, righty guys I have ever known.
Also the most dangerous (he was an instructor for my SEAL extraction Team at Coronado, 1969).
We were talking yesterday and he told me that he didn't think he could ever vote Republican again.
He also said he had been thinking about shooting people (I am not using any names, here) and that he didn't care how long it took - if his wife dies before he does, he's got a list. Said he could wait forever.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-11-07 04:07 AM
Response to Reply #7
65. Fire up a Colortini....
Holy Crap!
I checked your profile,
Do you know that Tom Snyder was my best friend?
My heart is pounding at one in the morning.
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Response to Reply #16
24. It's not a crime until you get caught.
Besides the fact that everything I own is in my girlfriend's name.
I don't have much truck with "laws".
And any "crimes" that I may have been perceived as committing were victimless.
I am sure I have all kinds of crap that I am not supposed to possess.
As a matter of fact, some of it is in the briefcase at my feet. Same shit I did time for. Just about a thousand less pounds of it.
But I now live in a place where there is no way that local Law Enforcement will screw with me.
The Chief of Police and I are drinking buddies.
Heck, the cops even give me rides home when I am too wasted to walk up the hill. I just call the Station.
They like to take my weapons out to the Marin Sheriff's Dept range and play Rambo. Full auto and all.
Treat them right, they'll treat you right.
I have learned a lot over the years.
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Track 04 : "I was a real badass back in 'nam [extended bovine excrement remix]
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri May-26-06 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. If they are charged with murder, then the entire DoD should be..
Edited on Fri May-26-06 04:11 PM by TomInTib
charged as accessories to the fact.
I have been in situations such as this one (Vietnam) and I cannot hold these poor troops solely responsible.
No way do I feel there was any kind of premeditation. This is no My Lai. Violent reaction under combat-related tension is just part of the terror of the moment.
edited due to my utter incapability to spell 'the'.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri May-26-06 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. I said nothing about "giving them a pass", just trying to put it in..
context.
Ever been in Close Quarters Combat? I have.
Your body does shit that your mind could never anticipate or plan.
These guys should be drummed out with dishonorable discharge.
I got the Navy Cross for my misdeeds and spent a lot of time hating myself. And I will carry that shit to my grave and down my own particular path to Hell. I deserve every bit of it.
While I am eternally sorry and full of regrets, I have never felt one pang of guilt. That may sound weird, but sheer terror has ways to **** up your mind.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-25-06 01:36 AM
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2. I have checked it out, but I think that we old guys have nothing..
to bring to the plate.
I do not even know how to talk to them. My metronome plays a different beat.
Back in my time (SEAL Team 3, '69-72) we were playing on 3/4 time.
These rap-head poor boys only understand 119 beats per minute.
I do not know how to communicate, anymore.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-06-06 01:37 AM
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4. "flawed intelligence", my ass
This is CYA all the way.
There is NO better intelligence in the ME than that of the Israelis.
This is a direct affront to any of us who have ever been involved in any ops such as these.
Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit
[Editors Note : Appropriate ending]
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-06-06 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. Forgive me (please)
I come from another place (northernmost Vietnam and westward into Laos with SEAL Team 3 attached to the 2nd Marine - long-range recon and extraction - '69-72). Not to mention Panama '89.
Yeah, I am probably talking out of my ass.
I am a life-long student, devotee and practitioner of all matters regarding this sort of action.
Maybe I could use some up-to-date enlightenment from someone actually involved in this sort of ops.
Could you shed some personally connected light on this for me?
I am getting old and would really appreciate some enlightenment on this from someone who has been there and knows a lot more than do I on matters such as this.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-10-06 12:57 PM
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6. I was just north of you in '70.
Qua Viet River (PBR).
And I fully agree with you.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-31-07 12:18 PM
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108. Well put, Brother.
Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 12:55 PM by TomInTib
SEAL Team 3, here. Extraction Team attached to 3,3 Marine, Quang Tri, '69-'72.
Yeah, I know more than I want to know about shitting one's pants.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-09-07 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
19. Are you kidding?
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:23 PM by TomInTib
I haven't participated in that ****ing joke since I returned from SE Asia.
I pledge allegiance to me and nothing else.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-09-07 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. I am sticking around because I love the place where I live.
But I have a fall-back in Costa Rica should things go to hell here.
And about that fighting for democracy and freedom thing...
I am one of the most decorated enlisted men in US Navy history (69-72) SEAL Team 3, stationed with 3rd Marine, Quang Tri, Laos and southernmost N Vietnam.
As for good food and shopping, I never have to leave my wonderful little town (Tiburon, CA). I don't need anything else.
And I do not have any opinions on university, being a high-school dropout and making it own my own and by my own wits for my entire life.
I do not need this country or its government.
I have me.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-26-05 05:28 PM
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58. Qua Viet 68-71
PBR (patrol boat- river) pilot.
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Track 05 : "I've got an armory and know gunz"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-01-07 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I have a good many, myself.
Like you, mine are in safes, except for one pistol (XD45), one shotgun (Defender 12) and one rifle (Daewoo DR 200).
Just in case of an earthquake.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-01-07 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Really slick.
It will spit 'em out as quick as you can pull the trigger. Never jams.
I have a short-burst conversion that I have not installed.
But I could do it myself, if need be.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-01-07 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Well...
It is an AR-15 from the receiver down, but is gas piston (more AK47) from there.
But my pistol kicks equal ass.
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/new_products/xd45_122005 /
I have the 5" option.
I have had Glocks, Pythons, all kinds of stuff, but this one raises hell.
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Track 06 : "I am a Criminal"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-10-07 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #41
47. **** it, right up front. I am a felon.
I did my time(s).
You see, I am a mulitiple-convicted felon.
I just thought that what the world really needed was more reefer.
Let them try and **** with me.
Thank you for your concern, AuntPatsy, but I worry not about those pencil-dicks.
Tom
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
If anyone still doesn't know the reason for the DUmping Grounds, the people starting threads here are giving you a damn good example of why it's needed. :rocker2:
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
If anyone still doesn't know the reason for the DUmping Grounds, the people starting threads here are giving you a damn good example of why it's needed. :rocker2:
You may need another server before this is over Kev :-)
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
If anyone still doesn't know the reason for the DUmping Grounds, the people starting threads here are giving you a damn good example of why it's needed. :rocker2:
You may need another server before this is over Kev :-)
It'll be worth it. :-)
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:bow: :bow: :bow:
If anyone still doesn't know the reason for the DUmping Grounds, the people starting threads here are giving you a damn good example of why it's needed. :rocker2:
You may need another server before this is over Kev :-)
It'll be worth it. :-)
We shall name it...The TIT server! All TIT All the time! :-)
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You know...TiT's claim of being a PBR boat captain and a highly decorated sailor made me wonder if he was trying to claim he is this guy:
http://www.history.navy.mil/bios/williams.htm
Just minus the CMOH.
Williams was the most decorated sailor in the history of the Navy. In addition to the Medal of Honor he received in 1968 for service as a river patrol boat commander in Vietnam, he earned a Navy Cross, two Silver Star Medals, a Legion of Merit with Combat "V," two Navy and Marine Corp Medals, and three Bronze Star Medals.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15899
The only problem with trying to make that claim...is that PO1c Williams is the first cousin of this guy:
http://www.jcs.mil/bios/bio_gainey.html
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Dazed and Confused...I know Led Zeppelin already used it, but TiT's whole live is plagiarized so I figured it was appropriate.
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During a thread supposedly devoted to asking about the health of his best friend Nina (she's also his business partner) but it's unclear whether she was the one who eventually sabotaged his DU account and posted a bunch of lies...he hand Wiley50 wax nostalgic about the drugs of youth:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Yep, nothing like it.
I first smoke opium in Mexico in 1962 (I was twelve years old).
My life was changed.
I didn't smoke pot until three years later, while trying to tamp down a brain gone spikey due to a drowning incident that I managed to get myself into.
Drowning - The Ultimate Gateway Drug
At least, that's my excuse.
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No wonder the guy makes shit up, he's been hallucinating since he was 12.
And of course he used to date Stanley Owsley's niece:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Oh, no...
I used to date Stanley Owsley's niece, Karen.
Red hot and rockin' country girl straight outta Miami (pronounced Mi am ah), Oklahoma.
Her creed was pretty much the same as mine.
"Sure, why not?"
God, I am too old to be able to afford to remember shit like that - makes my blood pressure go up.
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Alas...his animal magnetism got the best of him and she was just another in a string of broken hearts TiT evidently left in his wake:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. So this Owsley chick...
after I went away to serve my ****ing country, moved out to Leon's place for a while and then she and this Cherokee Amazon hung around with John Lee Hooker for a few years.
We got back together after I came home, but I was CRRAAAZY about that Cherokee chick and it caused a lot of problems.
And we were all three of us with Bad Problems with the Bad Shit, which causes its own set of problems.
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Hey I'm Suffering Too
TiT reveals his best friend is having a mastectomy...
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-04-07 03:05 PM
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My best friend and business partner is under the knife as I type this.
Partial radical mastectomy.
One of the finest, smartest, funniest Women on the Planet.
So, after all the trials and tribulations of the last week (OMC's Stacy), if you have any Positive Mojo Arrows left in your quiver - notch 'em up and fling them in the general direction of the San Francisco Bay. I am certain they will find Nina.
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Alas...he may never be able to play guitar again...and just a few short weeks after his best friend got out of the hospital
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-23-07 09:23 PM
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what a difference a day makes (i just got home from the hospital)
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i just got home from the hospital.
i'll tell you what'll damn sure get one's attention.
and that is going to bed feeling fine and then waking up a few hours later with your right arm absolutely dead from the elbow down.
i was pretty damned scared.
i knew that i had not suffered an actual stroke because my face, gait and voice were normal, unaffected. but i was really concerned that one of my old brain injuries had come home to roost.
then i contacted Tandalayo_Scheisskopf because he is a very knowledgeable guy. he thought it might be TIA, which i had never heard of.
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier ...
so away we went. but only after i showered, washed my hair, shaved, brushed my teeth, dressed, buttoned up my shirt, put on bracelets and watch and tied my shoes. all on my own. i am extremely right-handed and all that just kicked my ass. especially that ****ing watch band. try buckling an alligator strap with your teeth. but i was determined to start out at the maximum control mode that i could muster.
after much ado at marin general, it was determined that my ulnar nerve has crashed due to one of my old traumas.
i will begin neurological therapy on friday morning.
the prognosis is uncertain at this point, but i will probably never play guitar again.
but i am counting my blessings, right now.
and i am enjoying the humor of the situation. with my right hand floppy at the wrist, i am certain that i strongly resembled Cheeta the Chimp while washing my hair and face. and i almost jammed my toothbrush through the back of my skull.
Tom
on edit, sorry for the lack of caps but it is too danged hard to type them.
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And from a year before
What a Long Way We Have Come
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-12-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. What a long way we have come.
I was in the Honolulu airport in 1971, coming home on convalescent leave (shot) from Vietnam.
When the ticket agent told me they did not have a reservation or a seat for me, I was just devastated.
I was so effed up both mentally and physically, the thought of spending the night on an airport bench (I had NO money and the next flight was the following day) was just too much to bear.
All of a sudden, this angel of a man in line behind me said, "It will be all right", and handed me two tickets and told me one was for me and one was for comfort. Said he and his son could wait for the next day. Then he handed me $100.
I will never forget him.
If this was to occur today, the TSA wouldn't let me on the flight.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-12-06 03:14 PM
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22. That simple, kind act..
changed my life.
I had been in heavy s**t for over a year at the time and I pretty much resented (hell, hated) every one and everything that got in my way.
After that, it was mostly peace and calm for me even though I spent another 18 months in heavy action.
To this day, I believe that man was the reason I didn't just go crazy. Sometimes I think that he is the reason I am alive.
That may sound weird, but I really feel that way.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-12-06 03:08 PM
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21. And the funny part is this guy appeared to be a real Nixonian..
repub with his frat-boy son.
I was Special Forces (SEAL) with long hair died jet black (so as to not stand out at long range, an attempt to blend in) and I looked like a crazy mofo because of constant terror.
He just had a natural compassion that, to this day, still makes makes me teary at the memory of the time we had and what we have lost.
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And (sadly) the death of his very best (and world famous naturally) Tom Snyder
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So my phone rang this morning and they told me that Tom died
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-30-07 12:33 PM
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So my phone rang this morning and they told me that Tom died.
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That's Tom Snyder, not me.
For those of you who didn't have the great pleasure of knowing that man, I want to tell that he was definitely one of a kind.
Until about two weeks ago, we would sit on our own bench on our own deck on our town's (Tiburon, CA) little Main Street and solve all of the world's problems every day. This bench is actually referred to as "Toms' Bench". We would hang out with our dogs (my beautiful Golden Retriever, Seamus, and Tom's wonderful Olde English Sheepdog, Trevor) and make lewd comments about tourists and george bush. Man, he absolutely detested what is going on in our country today.
Tom had been in the entertainment business since he was thirteen years old and decided that being a paperboy was just too much ****ing work (he talked like that, you know). He knew everybody.
And stories. God god a'mighty, that man could tell you stories until you either wet your pants or collapsed a lung laughing.
He was a really big guy, you know. All the way around. As I type this through tears, I have this mirage-like image of him shambling down the sidewalk wearing those crazy pajama pants that he always wore and that beat-up old windbreaker with his name embroidered on the chest (you should've seen that jacket - "You know, Tom, when you get something that works, you better hold on to it."), shoulders kind of hunched up and walking his dog. Saying hello to everyone he knew in that great big ol' voice of his, not giving a damn about any conversation or thought that he might be interrupting.
Because Tom just didn't give a shit. And he would let you know up front.
I just awoke to this bad news and I am going away now. I just had to throw this down for my dear friend.
See you on the other side of the screen, buddy.
Damn.
Just damn.
Tom (Wright, not Snyder)
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-30-07 01:19 PM
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13. Do you remember his John Lennon interview? Well, Tom didn't.
I saw a thing on cable last year about the influence of drugs on the entertainment biz and one of the segments was that interview.
So I mentioned it to Tom the next day and he told me that he didn't remember even doing it.
Said he had the video and all but that he was so loaded when he did the interview that he couldn't remember doing it.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-30-07 01:39 PM
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15. I can hear it right now.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I am going to walk down the hill, now.
And drape my gallery in blue, for it was his favorite color.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-30-07 11:22 PM
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22. It's funny you know...
After Letterman tried to make it happen the second time (and NBC tried to hook Tom up with Rona Barrett) Tom and Letterman never really spoke to one another. David could make that right, tonight.
But Tom talked to Leno almost every day.
I will probably see Jay tomorrow.
And I will let you know what is going on, Raejeanowl.
Tom
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One can't help but be humbled by all his brushes with greatness.
Cindie
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Can't have a best of TiT thread without this classic:
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-17-07 12:32 AM
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So I am standing on the sidewalk with a guy from Carlyle Group
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Waiting for a a car in front of the Platinum hotel (highly recommended) in Las Vegas this morning.
Older guy comes by and sets his beautiful bag on a pedestal next to me.
No kidding, this bag was cooler than Coach.
Beautiful cotton duck trimmed with incredibly wonderful oiled leather. It was stamped "The Carlyle Group".
I ask him if he was with the Carlyle Group.
He looked down on me - which is not easy - because I am not easily looked down-upon. And said "yeah..." and walked out to the curb.
So I pulled out my fluorescent green highlighter from my case and wrote...
"**** ME"...
on the side of that bag. Those words glowed in the afternoon light.
He threw it over his shoulder and sallied off...not knowing what he was carrying.
I effin nailed that *******.
One for us and all mankind!!!
Tom
31. Wrong is wrong? ... Carlyle is Carllyle...
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 02:32 AM by TomInTib
You can not do anything you choose not to do, Richardo.
I do what I want.
And I am the only person on the plabet to hold a Ithaca 12-guage to John Warner's sternum.
You??
I do what I say.
And I mean what I do.
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71. You never saw my post about me and Warner?
Unlike the rest of the chickenshits here, I have actually taken up arms and killed a lot of people in "defense" of our country.
A lot of people (mostly Vietnamese and Laotians).
But I once had the pleasure of pointing an Ithaca 12guage pump at Mr Warner's sternum.
And I got away with it.
For he was just SecNav and I was me.
Do not deride that which you are not familiar.
Because it ain't funny.
Ya know?
Even the DUmmies are having a hard time with this one..
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83. Now what have we learned from this thread, class? OK, let's review...
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 08:29 AM by Tin Man
1) TomInTib is a high-roller: ...in front of the Platinum hotel (highly recommended) in Las Vegas this morning
2) TomInTib lives in luxury: check out ZIP 94920 on demographics (14th most affluent zip in US)
3) TomInTib is intrepid: I am the only person on the planet to hold a Ithaca 12-guage to John Warner's sternum.
4) TomInTib drives a snappy car: for the record, I drive a Carrera GT
5) TomInTib can be dangerous: I actually thought about killing the ****er...
6) TomInTib is an avenger: So I pulled out my fluorescent green highlighter from my case and wrote... "**** ME"... on the side of that bag.
Beyond that, I'm not sure if I learned anything. Wait... I just thought of one more thing... TomInTib has a very high opinion of himself, that must be shared with the world.
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32. I am not believing this...
I don't make shit up.
I did it..
I thought abought doing a lot worse stuff.
Just standing there next to the ****er had me shaking.
I have had a hard week.
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42. I really did it...
and I am blown away by the number of people here who wonder if I really did what I really did.
What a bunch of chickenshits.
Jeebus....
Linkage (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x232535#233634)
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And the parent of the year award goes to...
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-03-07 11:54 PM
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46. "lame parenting mistakes"?
One of my sons is a professional baseball player and the other travels the planet as a percussionist with Carlos Santana.
Yeah, I pretty much sucked as a parent.
I should have let them suck their thumbs, cleared off all the horizontal surfaces in the house, locked the cabinets and put away the firearms, encouraged them to get that education that would make them prisoners in tall buildings with all the other products of navel-gazing softies.
Yeah, that's it.
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From the same thread...I guess when you're a world class parent you not only know how everyone else should do it, but know about every child-centered industry in your town:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-03-07 09:37 PM
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30. There is no family day care here.
And the nannies are usually with a single or a double, those women make the older ones walk.
I blame the parents.
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However, it appears there just MIGHT be 1 or 2 (or 685) babysitters in Tiburon:
http://www.care.com/belvedere_tiburon-p1035-qxZIP%7C94920.html
Of course there are only 452 listings for daycare so he may be on to something with that one:
http://local.sanfrancisco.com/Tiburon/Daycare+--26+Preschools.zq.html
It's an entire thread of parenting experts over there...suddenly they're all proponents of "tough love". Well, at least when it comes to preschoolers walking. So here's the rule: preschoolers being dragged all over town, forced to walk miles at a time: GOOD! Fifteen year olds being expected to keep those same legs closed: BAD!
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Oh my. Just a couple of days before TiT's ulnar nerve crashing...the one that may keep him from ever playing guitar again (good thing he already taught Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, and Eddie Van Halen everything he knows), cops bust into his home and take him to the psych ward for observation. Seems "Beth" (perhaps she's the one logging on to his DU account) feared he would commit suicide. All in all, October 2007 was pretty much a bummer for TiT.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-21-07 12:20 AM
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Why was my thread locked (Welcome to Guantanamo)?
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Hey, Mods, I thought that this was pretty much timely.
What are we worried about?
Tom
My home life is pretty much ****ed.
So Thursday night I was kicking some lyrics around the room and said something to the effect of "I would rather spend eternity in the cold, cold ground then spend even one day without you".
I went to bed around Midnight and awoke with a start around three o'clock to find four Tiburon Policemen in my room.
Seems as though Beth had called them and said that she thought I was going to kill myself. I, being me, said, "You know, I have honestly never considered that until this very moment".
Big, big mistake.
Heck, I personally know three of the guys.
But, obviously, I don't know shit about Suicide Prevention Preparation.
So away we go to Marin General.
And get this, the officer driving the car was named Ron Law. I made him show me his drivers license just to prove he was telling the truth. A really good guy.
They took me to the Psychiatric Ward of Marin Gen. Having spent quite a sizable chunk of my life is bad situations, I was really cool about it and was joking with the cops and the admitting people.
Another bad move, that. Evidently, it is not acceptable to make suicide jokes in a Psych Ward.
By that point, I was starting to get a little pissed at the whole situation. I didn't need to be there and those people were simply going through the motions, SOP. And I started telling them what bullshit it all was and that they surely had people around who needed attention.
So they turned me over to some dude with a shaved head. A huge guy named R Smith, plainly stated on his two-bit nametag. R (that's what I called him. He told me to address him as "Mister Smith". I told him that I would compromise and call him Cocksucker. For some reason, he didn't see the humor in that.) was accompanied by THREE Security guys. And they were all wearing those creepy blue rubber gloves.
They present The Cup. I asked them what it was for. R said it was for a urine sample. So I said,"Piss in the cup yourself, Cocksucker".
R said he could make things really uncomfortable and difficult for me. I told him that things were already pretty much that way and that I, with my X-Ray vision, could see a supervisor through the two-way mirror.
So R jams the cup in my hands and told me to piss right now.
So I did.
All over the floor and their shoes.
You should've seen them, Nance. These tough guys dancing around and shouting.
They took me to some kind of watch-room, I guess. 12X12 with this horrible mattress, with only a fitted sheet and a thin pillow, on the floor. There were fluorescent lights on overhead. And I ****ing hate fluorescent lights.
They left some forms with me (SOP, again) that said I would be held for a minimum of 72 hours, or more at their discretion.
So I settled in for whatever the duration.
I was awakened by the opening of the door some time later.
It was R and the pissees, again. R asked me what I was doing and I told him I was sleeping. He told me to take these pills that he had.
I said there was no ****ing way I was taking anything that he had.
That's when he said, "You're in Guantanamo now, dude, and we can keep you here forever".
I intend to file a formal complaint tomorrow. That statement is probably not in the SOP Manual.
Later, two Staff people came in to talk with me. One real nice guy and an RN, no uniforms but casual clothes that you might wear to the park.
The Nurse took my blood pressure and the real nice guy asked some real nice questions and said that I could go as soon as a Doctor showed up. The nurse said, "Not until his blood pressure goes down".
I asked her how in the hell was that going to happen in the environment I was in.
So she brought me a couple of Atavan and everything was just like Christmas. My customary three bottles of wine the previous evening had those Atavans in overdrive.
I was home by 10AM. I spent less than six hours there.
And I must add that everyone (except for R Smith and the pissees) involved was very polite.
Also, my hat is off to The Tiburon Police Department for their seamless handling of what could have been (as far as they knew) a real bad situation.
And a double-tip of the cap to Officer Mike Mourgos, who phoned me at home the next day just to make sure that I was OK. You will never in your life encounter a nicer, more considerate person in Law Enforcement (heck, in Life) than Tiburon's own Mike Mourgos.
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Poor TiT...they never let him leave Nam, thus he was unfamiliar with something almost every other soldier could recite in his sleep. Imagine how important he must have been...either that or he came pretty close to being busted.
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-13-06 11:24 PM
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8. Little Chicken Hawks in a CZ .. scared shitless!
Eh, Tom-in-Tib? These pictures prove nothing. These chicken-hawk mother****ers enjoy the benefit of a "today" DEROS. Know what I mean, Vern?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-13-06 11:32 PM
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9. OK, flyboy, you've got me on this one..
Maybe my mind has gone feeble. What is DEROS?
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-14-06 10:44 PM
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11. DEROS? The most important date in the 'Nam!
Date Estimated to Return from Overseas.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-15-06 12:54 AM
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14. Well, that explains that...
I never had one of those.
I was forever ****ed.
Thinking back, I knew that (DEROS). I guess I had discarded that because it just never applied to my sorry ass.
Tom
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What a guy...in his spare time when he isn't running an art gallery, loaning illegal weapons to the local police, doing super secret MarineRangerSEAL(Team 3)Recon missions, writing songs, serving time in prison, and raising 2 very successful sons, he's hangin' with cowboys!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-06-06 12:46 PM
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54. Spent much time working horseback? I have...
and we were laughing our asses off.
Didn't the film win for Direction?
Contrived and bigoted? I think not.
They shoulda just left out the horseback scenes, those guys looked like clowns.
But then, what do I know? I have only spent my entire life working with REAL horsemen.
I will admit, tho, I have never had the pleasure of working sheep.
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Oh, you just can't make this shit up! Now he's going into politics. Well, he's already got the lying through his teeth part down.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-24-07 08:21 PM
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6. It was a brother-in-law deal.
The wealthiest (per capita) ZIP code in the country and we act like Mayberry.
That's why I am going to run for Town Council.
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Cindie
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TiT was homeschooled?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-10-07 03:40 PM
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8. 10th Period?
Even though I never attended any school, that sure seems like a lot of class periods.
So what counts as a "period"?
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Wow...just wow!
Cindie
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TominTib Texas Concert
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Track 01 : Texas on the 1630 express
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-21-08 02:01 PM
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2. Hell, my family was a clan of ...
immigrant CRIMINALS when they arrived in what is now Angelina County, Texas, in 1630.
Most of them probably should have been taken out and shot.
Thank heavens they didn't arrive just last year.
I am with you 100%, H2S.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-09-05 12:43 AM
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33. Ummm...
You should know that I am from a family that has been in TX since 1630, and I hate what that "man" has done to our state and to our country...
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Response to Reply #40
48. relax
awtlaw from TX in northbay CA...I know my way around horses, not like some frat boy from CT.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-09-05 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #42
46. ID Card
Pretty much everything that he had seen and done. Yes, very scary. I spend a LOT of time in hub-airports - and see a lot of soldiers coming and going...and it is very hard to see these young (and sometimes not so young) men and women going to that awful, terrible place on our behalf... it is just so damn hard sometimes...especially when their wives and children get to go to the gate to seem them off to whatever the future holds for them - may we never see them on the news.
In the airports, if they have sand on their boots and suitcases, they are coming home - if not, they are headed to a place we do not want to imagine.
Viet Nam Vet from TX who hates Bush.
P.S. They actually make the soldiers in uniform take their boots off going thru airport security. How messed up is THAT!!!? What are they fighting for anyway?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-17-06 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #87
90. There is no link....
I know them.
Google "Mercedes Baker Whittington" and see what happens.
Try to find out find anything of consequence about any of the Bakers except James A III.
Greatest Janitor Ever.
My family has been in what is now known as Texas since 1630.
I know them
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-11-07 10:21 PM
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12. Thank you. I am going to bookmark this and learn something.
And I always watch my back.
Except on a Friday night, two weeks ago.
I was walking home from Servino around one or two in the morning.
Weaving along the sidewalk on Main Street, I encountered a dumpster that was just begging to be peed on.
And I was all too willing to oblige.
Never saw or heard the cop car.
He knew me, but asked for my ID as he had radioed in the public urination call.
My ID has a Texas address.
So he drove me home and helped me down the (102) stairs from my parking deck to my front door.
Banged on the door, cop-like.
My just-awakened girlfriend comes to the door and he asked her if I lived there.
She looked straight at me and said, "For the time being".
And that is when my most recent problems began.
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Track 03 : I was in NAM , yo !
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-20-07 07:36 PM
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1. I remember when a friend of mine called me and told me he was going to kill himself.
So we drove over to his house and found him surrounded by Houston cops in his front yard, AK47 at his feet and his truck shot full of holes.
I hollered at him from the street and asked him just what the hell did he think he was doing.
He said that he had changed his mind and decided to kill his truck instead of himself.
The cops asked me how I knew what was going on and I told them that we had been in the service together and that I was really worried about him.
They let me go up to him, take his hand and lead him down the driveway like a child.
Then they jumped us both, hog-tied Paul and handcuffed me (for "safety's sake" they would later testify).
Hauled him off to jail.
Paul hanged himself in jail that night.
He did not kill himself.
Vietnam killed him.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-21-07 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. I can still see his face (without even closing my eyes)
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 02:20 AM by TomInTib
Looking at me while they were hauling him away.
Looking at me and searching for a little Hope.
All I knew was that I would never see him again.
And I think he knew it.
Paul was a Tunnel Rat, you see.
Then they sent him to Ranger school.
Ballsiest guy I ever knew.
Not brave, just crazy and fearless.
If he had not have died, he probably never would have lived.
Damn, that old Machine just keeps on slashing, gnashing, wasting more of us every day.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-17-07 11:42 PM
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10. I cannot figure it out.
Without going into a lot of detail (which would bring me all manner of grief on DU), I have a whole lot of experience regarding this sort of thing.
This business makes no sense to me at all.
Unless DPW will be the contracted operator under AIGGIG.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-29-07 06:15 PM
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7. All here who have been around nukes have been saying the same thing.
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 06:16 PM by TomInTib
I spent some TDA guarding missiles on Naval warships.
And I will attest to “All security forces assigned are authorized to use deadly force to protect the weapons from any threat .”
Shoot first, figure it out later.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-05-07 08:12 PM
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3. I knew some guys that were in that exercise.
They were SF stationed on a Destroyer Escort with nuke sims (they were guarding said "nukes"). As they were on the starboard rail having a smoke, a Russian sub surface about 100 yards away.
That ****ing sub had gone completely undetected by all of those warships.
They said the Brass was crapping in their collective pants.
I didn't believe them until I saw the pics later.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-05-07 08:45 PM
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5. Seriously.
Heads rolled.
In '72 I was on a DE called the USS Rathburne (since converted to something else) DE1057 (I think), escorting the USS Enterprise in WestPac and pulling the same duty as my friends were. I was on covalescent leave and that is how the Navy let me spend it, instead of going home to patch up.
The Commander was a total asshole named Chang, the first Chinese-born Commander of a US Naval warship.
Same ****ing thing happened except it was not a joint exercise.
And the boat I was on had just come out of drydock in Pearl and had a state-of-the-art rubber sonar dome - the first one ever installed. The boat was the designated pinger of the Carrier Group and totally missed it.
They could've sunk the ****ing Enterprise.
Chang lost his command over that one.
I want to send you a hilarious Chang story tomorrow. PM me a reminder, if you will.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-06-07 12:16 PM
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14. Really?
He was a mother****er.
I still have a cap (with scrambled-egg bill) I stole from him and the commissioning pennant from that boat is hanging above my desk. I walked off that stinking ship with it wrapped around my right leg. They knew I had it, but I was SEAL and untouchable.
The cap issue made him crazy.
Did you serve under that rat bastard?
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Bloody HELL
Walter Mitty was a piker next to this jerk.
Delilah....you rule.
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I keep trying to remember that character John Lovitt did on SNL...used to make up all kinds of stuff...one was that he was married to Morgan Fairchild. TiT's got that guy beat by a mile.
Cindie
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I keep trying to remember that character John Lovitt did on SNL...used to make up all kinds of stuff...one was that he was married to Morgan Fairchild. TiT's got that guy beat by a mile.
Cindie
Tommy Flanagan. Pronounced FLAN-AY-GAN.
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I keep trying to remember that character John Lovitt did on SNL...used to make up all kinds of stuff...one was that he was married to Morgan Fairchild. TiT's got that guy beat by a mile.
Cindie
The character he played was was Tommy Flanagan the Pathological Liar.
Yeaaaaaaaahh, that's the ticket.
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Perhaps if he'd gone to school...I'm surprised TiT hasn't won a Darwin award:
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. "women in thongs" and "William Blake", good enough for me...
even tho I have no idea who Wm Blake is...
I just know that those are the first names of one of my favorite people.
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Remember folks...these are the people who believe themselves intellectually superior to you. This one in particular claims to be a major player in the intellectual, artsy community of Tiburon. Considering Blake (who is my favorite poet) was almost as well known for his engravings as his poetry you'd think his name would've come up now and then. Considering one of the proverbs of Hell is "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom" and "excess" seems to be a way of life for TiT, I find it amusing he doesn't know one of the most famous poets and illustrators in history.
Cindie
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10 points to the first person to find him telling us about his involvement with this:
Sewage Spill Near Tiburon (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/14/BA4G10M7TO.DTL)
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TiT, Armchair Military Strategist aka "I know better than boots on the ground or DOD because I was a SEAL, dammit!"
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-22-06 11:25 PM
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2. I am just blown away by this whole thing.
I have experienced a lot of combat.
I cannot understand how this relatively green bunch of guys was simply left to themselves in a nominally defensible situation.
Where were the non-coms?
This just pisses me off.
Heads deserve to roll on this one.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-22-06 11:42 PM
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5. No, they were simply abandoned.
They were backed up to a confluence of irrigation canals and the other two Hummers went cowboying off after a few decoys.
They never had a chance due to their lack of experience.
This was a huge ****up.
Two pfc's and two spec's. They tried to shoot it out with the 'bad guys' rather than just gunning the Hummer through the attackers with their .50 blazing.
You simply must have an experienced guy on the scene to make those split-second, life-or-death decisions.
These poor souls just stopped to think (you cannot 'stop' and think in that situation or you are toast) and they made a fatal decision.
There should (and better) be Hell to pay.
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Cindie
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10 points to the first person to find him telling us about his involvement with this:
Sewage Spill Near Tiburon (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/14/BA4G10M7TO.DTL)
I can do that without an article...he just talked to someone and the resulting BS was the cause of the spill.
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Not your average metrosexual...gun expert, rancher, hero-at-large
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To be fair, his advice is pretty good (with the exception of the sawing off the barrel part)...my home defense weapon of choice is a 20 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot...pretty much just point and shoot. He's just such an expert on everything and seems to spend an inordinate amount of his DU life giving advice or explaining why he knows so damn much.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 07:29 PM
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19. Get a 410 shotgun and have a gunsmith saw off the barrel.
That way it will be lightweight, easy to handle and have minimum recoil.
You do not have to be a very good shot to hit a large dog at close range.
And load it with heavy birdshot, #4 or #6. Maybe you won't actually kill them, but you damn sure will make an impression on them.
And, by all means, let the dogs' owner and the local constabulary know what your plans are.
And practice, practice, practice.
Good luck.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 07:50 PM
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29. Not if barrel length exceeds 18".
I have several versions of Defender and one has an 18.5" barrel. This is an over-the-counter weapon (Winchester Defender 1300).
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 07:52 PM
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30. Problem is, she is dealing with a Rott and a Pit.
Snake shot will just piss them off.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 08:18 PM
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37. I don't think that will work in this case.
Having been raised on a ranch, I have to agree with your tactics. Rare is the case when I have had to resort to killing an animal to protect myself.
But it appears as though she is really scared and intimidated by these dogs (and maybe their owner).
Those two factors can cause a lot of problems in her situation.
But never try a stick and a loud voice on a crazy-ass 500lb. Russian Boar that can outrun your horse.
Or a worked-up Pit.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 09:57 PM
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54. Don't you dare take any chances.
I will fly out there and shoot them (and their jerk owner, as well) myself, if need be. And I love Rotts and Pits, it is the owners who are responsible for their behavior.
This has really been bothering me since I first read your original post (as you can probably tell by my numerous posts on this thread).
You are far too small and intimidated by this situation to deal with it without mechanical advantage.
Please take care and pay attention to your environment.
Tom
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 10:38 PM
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58. No pistols... do not even try it.
I hope you read my posts on short-barreled light-gauge shotguns. Learn to fire from the hip, free-style. That way the recoil won't affect you as much.
Leave the sidearms (pistols) alone, you will probably shoot yourself in the foot.
If you do purchase a firearm (and I am so sorry that your situation has come to that), and the law allows, just go out on your property and fire a few rounds into the ground (or some other inanimate object) a couple of times a day.
I guarantee you that will get your a**hole neighbor's attention.
Please let me know how this wraps out.
Tom
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 07:54 PM
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31. Winchester Defender 1300, 20ga, short barrel (18.5"), pistol grip.
And learn to shoot from the hip.
No more problem.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-21-07 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. Pepper spray on a Rottweiler? Have you ever tried that?
That crap can get you killed.
And the Sheriff won't do you much good when they are chewing on your face.
I have been in situations very much like this one, growing up on a ranch.
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Guess we know why he didn't go to school...he was spending his time out on the open prairie shooting wild pit bulls.
Cindie
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
He may be the Navys second most decorated man but his taste in chicks sucks :-)
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
He may be the Navys second most decorated man but his taste in chicks sucks :-)
There's someone for everyone, even the Navy's second most decorated man :lmao:
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3096932 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3096932)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
He may be the Navys second most decorated man but his taste in chicks sucks :-)
There's someone for everyone, even the Navy's second most decorated man :lmao:
Whats interesting is that I believe greenbriars hubby is a big drunk! She oughta love Toms drunken pissing on dumpsters ass! :-)
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
He may be the Navys second most decorated man but his taste in chicks sucks :-)
There's someone for everyone, even the Navy's second most decorated man :lmao:
Whats interesting is that I believe greenbriars hubby is a big drunk! She oughta love Toms drunken pissing on dumpsters ass! :-)
She's got a tramp stamp too...sure you won't reconsider her hotness? :-)
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Oh gag me...he fantasizes about greenbriar's ass!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3096932 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3096932)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-02-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Oh, come on....
Hate you?
Balderdash!
It's that butt of yours, keeps me up late.
Tom
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Fair warning...if you click on the thread you WILL see pics of greenbriar, front and back. IMO she's not fantasy material.
Cindie
He may be the Navys second most decorated man but his taste in chicks sucks :-)
There's someone for everyone, even the Navy's second most decorated man :lmao:
Whats interesting is that I believe greenbriars hubby is a big drunk! She oughta love Toms drunken pissing on dumpsters ass! :-)
She's got a tramp stamp too...sure you won't reconsider her hotness? :-)
No...Tramp stamps are trouble and she's GROSS! :-)
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Well...it's not a song, but I found this to be of interest.
omInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-14-08 05:39 PM
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2. My sister was a 25-week baby.
In 1953, no less. Born prematurely as a result of a tremendous car crash.
And she survived and thrived, physically.
But she is crazy as hell.
Man, I could write a book.
A book full of bullshit!
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-14-08 06:19 PM
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14. I learned to stay on my toes and to never be surprised by anything.
She is something else.
I wish that I could go on, but I lost some use of my left hand last week and typing is a real chore.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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but I lost some use of my left hand last week and typing is a real chore.
Yeah I hear you'll go blind as well TIT :-)
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but I lost some use of my left hand last week and typing is a real chore.
Yeah I hear you'll go blind as well TIT :-)
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
H5!
Cindie
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Gun-nut, grave dancer, asshole
For someone who supposedly loves guns and has, by his own admission, illegal ones (something Charlton Heston never advocated), one wonders at his vicious and irrational hatred for Mr. Heston. Perhaps it's that HE also auditioned for the role of Capt. Blanchard in "Grey Lady Down", perhaps believing the role was OWED to him...being the 2nd most decorated enlisted man in the Navy and all (why is it when I think of TiT in the Navy I keep seeing the Village People).
Besides, he's an expert at everything...who knows more about nuclear submarines? Or rescue missions for that matter. Heck, the damn movie was probably based on a REAL rescue mission by SEAL Team 3. It would practically be type casting! And as a bonus, he just happens to know everything there is to know about the film industry. Were the director to stub his toe or get a cold TiT could fill in for him (probably winning an Emmy in the process). Oh, and let's not forget his knowledge of Norwegian freightliners. Why when he was part of the Marine Recon Rescue Ranger SEALS they had to covertly sneak aboard one and capture a couple of Viet Cong who'd snuck on board and were hiding under a pile of gefilte fish. But no, the director went with Heston, damn dirty ape!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-05-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. I will. He was a prick.
And good riddance, about 35 years too late.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 12:09 AM
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33. No way...
He had a far greater impact on the right-wing crazies and gun nuts (of which I are one - gun nuts, that is) than he did on the Civil Rights movement.
Rest in Hell is where I am coming from.
Watch his smug ass on Bowling for Colombine, someday.
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Well, we know youse isn't an English major don't I? The Navy must be so proud to claim you as one of their own!
flowomo (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #33
38. yes, people with Alzheimer's are annoyingly smug looking...
Moore set him up; it was the one part of that documentary that made me cringe.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 12:22 AM
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41. I know that, but he had it coming.
I had no empathy for the aging Nazis, either.
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That's right because you and SEAL Team 3 were wiping them out while you were still in diapers!
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 05:56 AM
Response to Reply #102
118. Are you really a Doctor?
I am just a guy who doesn't care for C Heston.
"the whole of the life he led"? Like ****ing what? Some bs, studio-driven Civil Rights crap? Get a ****ing grip. He was the sacrificial lamb for MGM. He was ****ing Moses, for God's sake. Unimpeachable.
What kind of doctor are you?
I really want to know.
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You know, I've just never hated anyone in my life THIS much.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #221
224. Fair enough.
And I know all about "exploited angles".
If I had enough of a varied vocabulary, I could write a ****ing book on it.
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See! See, I told you he was an expert about the film industry!
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 12:05 AM
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27. When once a dog bites, ....
he is a biter, forevermore.
He went out badly.
In my opinion, he did far more harm than good.
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Of course, TiT never explains WHY Mr. Heston was so "harmful". I'm sensing a severe case of penis envy (he tells so many lies to pump himself up he's got to be over compensating for something). Charlton Heston, being secure in his manhood never had a problem taking a back seat, not being the center of the universe, as witnessed by the number of "narrator" roles he did where he never even appeared on screen.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #90
116. "a movie fan"...
yeah, and Ronald Reagan was one hell of a fighter pilot.
"a movie fan"?
Yeah, there's your reality.
Welcome to the Nation that held The Roseanne Barr Show as the number one attraction for a couple of years running.
"a movie fan"....
Oh, spare me....
Good God, when you have nothing better to do with a few hours of your life....
go stare at a product...
'cause it don't take nothing...
just sit there, staring with everybody else...
then walk out on the same street.
It's all nothing.
Yeah, Ol' Charlie was a helluva guy...
It's your tattoo, not mine.
Put it where you believe it.
Tom
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The only thing worse than an asshole is an incoherent asshole.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #147
219. I get your point...
and I will now walk out to the Golden Gate Bridge and throw myself from the railing.
I just feel so worthless, now.
How could I have ever misunderestimated her brilliance?
But that's OK, because I heard (just last night) that the two finest artists of the 20th Century were Madonna and Michael ****ing Jackson.
No kidding, I heard a living, breathing human being say exactly that.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
56. If "liberal" is defined as...
blind
denying
bending over for whoever has their name in lights (or their soul in the shadows)
If "liberal" means giving every mean-spirited bastard in the world a break solely on the account that they are a fellow homo sapien?...
feeling any sense of loss that some sorry piece of shithumanity such as C Heston has checked out?
Then sign me out.
I am glad that he is no longer breathing the same air that you and I share.
Just tell me the address to where I need to mail my "Liberal" card.
Tom
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Well, gee TiT, they let you stay, you're not only pretty damn mean (granted that's a trait most losers share) but you're very, very stupid, you outright steal song lyrics and try to pawn them off as your own, and you're a pathological liar. OK, other than that you're probably a swell fellow.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #167
223. You gotta be kidding
I am a gun nut.
Tried and true.
I have never called for help. Takes too ****ing long.
Because I can handle my own business.
My, we certainly leap to ungrounded conclusions don't we?
You are simply delusional.
Where did you glean all of that information about me?
Send him a ****ing tie.
A red one.
And punch in a tape of the Roseanne Show.
Turn the volume down.
Punch in your favorite BeeGees CD.
Crank it up.
I'll see you at Nancy Reagan's funeral.
I will be the guy with the air horn and a big ol' grin.
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I just don't get it...why does Skinner allow these types to stay on the island? Oh, I know...he's so dang brave! And he was in the Navy which means he could probably kick Skinner's ass (us norman folks are still trying to figure out whether he actually served).
Cindie
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Ta Da! It's the famous (or infamous) "I was part of SEAL Team 3" post!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=259&topic_id=1586&mesg_id=1589 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=259&topic_id=1586&mesg_id=1589)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-25-06 01:36 AM
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2. I have checked it out, but I think that we old guys have nothing..
to bring to the plate.
I do not even know how to talk to them. My metronome plays a different beat.
Back in my time (SEAL Team 3, '69-72) we were playing on 3/4 time.
These rap-head poor boys only understand 119 beats per minute.
I do not know how to communicate, anymore.
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There's one we should all be screen capping!
Cindie
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Delilah, madam, this is great, this is stupendous, this is wonderful.
I've noticed that due to what you and LC Efa contributed here, this is fast becoming one of the most-read threads here. Keep it up! Add more! Make it longer! Expose, mock, ridicule another one of those flatulent frauds on Skns's island!
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Delilah, madam, this is great, this is stupendous, this is wonderful.
I've noticed that due to what you and LC Efa contributed here, this is fast becoming one of the most-read threads here. Keep it up! Add more! Make it longer! Expose, mock, ridicule another one of those flatulent frauds on Skns's island!
Yes! I'm going to have to agree with Frank exellent work Delilah and LC....And you're doing this with that horrible search engine at DU :banghead: :-)
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More people Tom is friends with
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 12:43 AM
Response to Original message
2. Like Roky Erikson said when asked why he chose certain songs for albums..
"I choose the easy ones."
Hell, it took me a couple of years to even figure out how to post, here.
Kos and all them are way too complicated.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Roky and I go back, forever...
I produced Fever Tree with Scott Holtzmann (actually, his wife Vivian did all the work because we were usually pre-occupied).
The BandAid was my idea.
Roky is now living in a little trailer behind a ****movie arcade on Hwy71 just east of Austin.
And he is clear of parole and probation (you know, that mail-stealing problem that he had).
But he still has that beautiful voice. Maybe better than ever.
One of my favorite moments (I was there)...
Dick Clark (American Bandstand), "So, Roky, who's the head of the band?".
Roky, "We're all heads".
Tom
Editors note : BUSTED !
Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #29
36. This Website Has It Wrong, Tom
It gives full credit for production of that 1968 album release to Scot and Vivian Holtzman.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/petersykes/psych60s/review...
Maybe you need to get it corrected?
A hasty retreat
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #36
37. It's too late to give a damn...
That was a few million miles and forty years ago...
I am sleeping on the floor and headed to New York.
You?...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4638064
Tom's da man
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 08:58 PM
Response to Original message
2. I was walking down a sidewalk in San Rafael the other day,...
smoking a cigarette.
Guy comes up to me and asks me for one, so I gave him two.
Then he asked me if I knew where the rehab center was.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. And then I walked on down the street.
Young chick with a fat-ass boyfriend (pimp?) came up to me, crying and wiping her nose.
Wanted to know if I knew where she could get some heroin.
Told her no.
Not two minutes later, some slinky-fine white chick came wiggling her way up the sidewalk, wondered if I could help her get some pills (didn't even bother to specify what kind). Said she would give me a blow job.
I told her I had no idea.
Turned around a few seconds later, she was climbing into some contractor's truck.
That's when I remembered the bottle of Vicodin in my bag.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. I know.
But I appreciated the irony of the situation.
All kinds of crazy shit has been happening to me since I started growing my hair longer.
And I am running around with this wild-ass Laplander woman (who was raised North of the Circle in a nomadic family of reindeer herders). Like I really need any more trouble.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. Back in it.
I tried holding on to my heart for a while, but it didn't work out.
I figured that, as long as I was catching Heat, I might as well make the most of the Fire.
(And, Heat, if you are reading this you know what I mean.)
Yeah, Chaos - my only constant companion.
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Tom submits application for Father of the year.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-08-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Another reason I am glad mine dropped out of High School.
No way would I spend that kind of money on an education.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-08-08 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Thanks....
Well, I suppose that was somewhat unkind of annabanana.
Yeah, my sons dropped out of school.
So what?
They are happy as hell, without a care in the world.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-08-08 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. No problema, anna....
my sons are two of the smartest people I have ever known.
And I always allowed them to make their own decisions.
Never look back.
Tom
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-08-08 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. Really?
They are happy as hell, without a care in the world.
Beats the shit out of being a prisoner in a tall building, with mortgage, car and insurance payments, and tuition to boot.
I never even saw the inside of a High School until I was probably 40 years old.
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Yes! I'm going to have to agree with Frank exellent work Delilah and LC....And you're doing this with that horrible search engine at DU
Actually I'm using Google. I've never bothered with creating an account over there (which I understand is required to search). It'd make me feel somewhat , unclean. :-)
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Roky and I go back, forever...
I produced Fever Tree with Scott Holtzmann (actually, his wife Vivian did all the work because we were usually pre-occupied).
The BandAid was my idea.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:bs:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 02:04 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Roky and I go back, forever...
I produced Fever Tree with Scott Holtzmann (actually, his wife Vivian did all the work because we were usually pre-occupied).
The BandAid was my idea.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:bs:
Does he mean THE Bandaid? :rotf:
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Does he mean THE Bandaid? :rotf:
Yeah, one of those We are the World things like Farm Aid.
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Does he mean THE Bandaid? :rotf:
Yeah, one of those We are the World things like Farm Aid.
Bob Geldoph will not be happy! :lmao:
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Not sure if you guys found this but :-)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Yep, nothing like it.
I first smoke opium in Mexico in 1962 (I was twelve years old).
My life was changed.
I didn't smoke pot until three years later, while trying to tamp down a brain gone spikey due to a drowning incident that I managed to get myself into.
Drowning - The Ultimate Gateway Drug
At least, that's my excuse.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS
Oh FFS! :rotf:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1990301#1990336 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1990301#1990336)
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When you're an expert at everything it's hard to be humble!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-06-07 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
5. OK, where do we send donations for their defense fund?
This is outrageous.
I have been reading some about this, but evidently I am naive enough to think that they would not actually be arrested, but maybe just cited.
Naive is not a word that I have ever used to describe myself.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-06-07 07:59 PM
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9. Thanks, I just sent some money.
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 08:00 PM by TomInTib
I am thinking about trying to round up a few hundred vets, meet up in DC and do the same ****ing thing. Let them arrest us all.
This thing has me totally pissed off. I think it was the Yahoo slideshow thing that did it.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-06-07 08:08 PM
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11. Actually I am not that good a person. But I cannot stand idly by...
while bad people do terrible things to the truly decent ones among us.
I cannot and I will not.
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Once again bravery and humility on display.
Cindie
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Yes! I'm going to have to agree with Frank exellent work Delilah and LC....And you're doing this with that horrible search engine at DU
Actually I'm using Google. I've never bothered with creating an account over there (which I understand is required to search). It'd make me feel somewhat , unclean. :-)
Yep, Google advanced search...can't beat it. It's even got me into a couple of backdoors (archived stuff not easily accessible to the general public).
Cindie
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Once again a delicious story (is there anything this guy DOESN'T know or HASN'T done) cut short by too much wine (or would that be whine). We need a picture of this guy (maybe with some photoshopping illustrating all his accomplishments) because he's the poster child of DU. He's got every single "quirk" one expects to find in the inhabitants of the island: anger, arrogance, bouncy stories (the guy even has to invent a life for his sons), and on and on. But my favorite thing about TiT (I mean the lies are so blatant and outrageous that it's almost boring) is he simply doesn't see the irony of calling President Bush and his friends & associates losers while he drinks himself into a stupor every night, constantly waxes nostalgic for a "youth" he never lived, and is a high school dropout working at a gift shop. Meanwhile, Bush is the most powerful man on the planet (regardless of what DU thinks, their petty impeachment schemes, or poll numbers) actually MAKING history...not just making it up.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-06-06 03:31 AM
Response to Reply #6
11. Maddy, there were a lot of folks..
If I had not had so much vino tonight, I would go in to detail..
There was an apartment complex in the 5400 block of Westheimer (La Rochelle?)in Houston.
Even back then, georgie had his syncophants who would attempt to pick up 'hippie chicks' around the pool. They were all (georgie's boys, not the women) absolute losers.
Rumors were all about circle-jerks ( a la Skull&Bones) and c*#k s*&king galore.
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Cindie
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OK on another Charlton Heston (this loser really, really envied him for some reason) others are trying to tell him to cool his jets, but the highly decorated keyboard SEAL isn't having any of it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5403320 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5403320)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 07:30 AM
Response to Reply #10
19. "In real life"?
In "real life", I will say anything I damned well please.
"anonymity"?
Here it is, HotRod...
http://picasaweb.google.com/robertjamesusa/TiburonArtFe...
And the address is 82 Main Street.
You?
Tom
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So, I clicked on the link and was taken to this Picasa gallery (according to the Tiburon Chamber of Commerce Robert James does promotions). That's not TiT but the lovely Nina (SOLE, at least since her husband died) proprietor of Gallery 108. Now, I'm thinking...TiT is calling this person out to assault some poor gallery owner who probably doesn't even know he exists beyond the casual hello.
Now it appears not only does TiT NOT co-own the business (despite intimating such on the "Nina has breast cancer" thread...what a disgusting way to use another human being), he doesn't even WORK there. Because according to Bay Crossings (http://"http://www.baycrossings.com/archives/2004/11_December/places_to_shop_for_the_holidays.htm"), "Nina and her dog Nicky greet customers six days a week under the distinctive black crane sign." She actually sounds like a really great person...at one point she moved her gallery out of Ark Row, "After many years at 108 Main Street on Ark Row, Nina and Gary Gerhard made plans for the move to the hub of downtown together. They planned the remodeling and new layout for the long narrow shop, the new logo and signage, and then Gary died suddenly. Nina had to implement the plans and move just days after losing her husband. It was a true challenge for this fine lady to reinvent their pleasant gallery and expand their fine gift store. The result is wonderful. New products have added dimension and the shop is a pleasure to visit." So how she fits into TiT's life remains a mystery.
Now what I did discover on my travels is that TiT, by his own admission (http://"http://www.marinij.com/fastsearchresults/ci_4389996"), is a clerk in a greeting card store, "I talked to a woman living in Belvedere for 60 years who had never visited here," said longtime resident Tom Wright, who works at Giftique of Tiburon at 76 Main St. on Ark Row." It appears he can't complain he got confused about which business he owns (Gallery 108- Giftique...one could see how TiT could get confused...they both start with "G") as Giftique is owned by a delightful woman named Roxanne (http://"http://www.baycrossings.com/Archives/2004/09_October/tiburon_a_town_of_grace_and_fun.htm"). "Giftique is a shop full of cards and all that is needed to gift wrap presents, once found. The owner of Giftique, Roxanne, said, 'The cards cost a little but the therapy from reading them is free. I love to see people laugh when they read cards or look at our gifts.'"
Now, here is something I am puzzling at. TiT is a name dropper. He's had so many brushes with greatness one would think he should've been a celebrity in his own right...probably the most pathetic hanger-on in history. Anyway, here at the Marin Magazine article on the 2007 Tiburon Art Festival (http://"http://www.marinmagazine.com/Marin-Magazine/November-2007/Tiburon-Art-Festival/") is a picture of our intrepid hero posing with the very beautiful Katie Knipp. Katie Knipp, it seems, is somewhat of a local celebrity (http://"http://www.katieknipp.com/"). She's even the opening act for an upcoming gig with the Doobie Brothers. This is exactly the kind of thing that turns him on. So one wonders why he doesn't brag on his "good friend" Katie. Of course Tom Wright isn't the most unusual name in the world...I suppose there could be more than one, maybe even more than one in Marin County.
Cindie
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-06-07 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Actually I am not that good a person. But I cannot stand idly by...
while bad people do terrible things to the truly decent ones among us.
Hope you were looking in a mirror when you typed that you ignorant ****stick
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OK on another Charlton Heston (this loser really, really envied him for some reason) others are trying to tell him to cool his jets, but the highly decorated keyboard SEAL isn't having any of it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5403320 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5403320)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-06-08 07:30 AM
Response to Reply #10
19. "In real life"?
In "real life", I will say anything I damned well please.
"anonymity"?
Here it is, HotRod...
http://picasaweb.google.com/robertjamesusa/TiburonArtFe...
And the address is 82 Main Street.
You?
Tom
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So, I clicked on the link and was taken to this Picasa gallery (according to the Tiburon Chamber of Commerce Robert James does promotions). That's not TiT but the lovely Nina (SOLE, at least since her husband died) proprietor of Gallery 108. Now, I'm thinking...TiT is calling this person out to assault some poor gallery owner who probably doesn't even know he exists beyond the casual hello.
Now it appears not only does TiT NOT co-own the business (despite intimating such on the "Nina has breast cancer" thread...what a disgusting way to use another human being), he doesn't even WORK there. Because according to Bay Crossings (http://"http://www.baycrossings.com/archives/2004/11_December/places_to_shop_for_the_holidays.htm"), "Nina and her dog Nicky greet customers six days a week under the distinctive black crane sign." She actually sounds like a really great person...at one point she moved her gallery out of Ark Row, "After many years at 108 Main Street on Ark Row, Nina and Gary Gerhard made plans for the move to the hub of downtown together. They planned the remodeling and new layout for the long narrow shop, the new logo and signage, and then Gary died suddenly. Nina had to implement the plans and move just days after losing her husband. It was a true challenge for this fine lady to reinvent their pleasant gallery and expand their fine gift store. The result is wonderful. New products have added dimension and the shop is a pleasure to visit." So how she fits into TiT's life remains a mystery.
Now what I did discover on my travels is that TiT, by his own admission (http://"http://www.marinij.com/fastsearchresults/ci_4389996"), is a clerk in a greeting card store, "I talked to a woman living in Belvedere for 60 years who had never visited here," said longtime resident Tom Wright, who works at Giftique of Tiburon at 76 Main St. on Ark Row." It appears he can't complain he got confused about which business he owns (Gallery 108- Giftique...one could see how TiT could get confused...they both start with "G") as Giftique is owned by a delightful woman named Roxanne (http://"http://www.baycrossings.com/Archives/2004/09_October/tiburon_a_town_of_grace_and_fun.htm"). "Giftique is a shop full of cards and all that is needed to gift wrap presents, once found. The owner of Giftique, Roxanne, said, 'The cards cost a little but the therapy from reading them is free. I love to see people laugh when they read cards or look at our gifts.'"
Now, here is something I am puzzling at. TiT is a name dropper. He's had so many brushes with greatness one would think he should've been a celebrity in his own right...probably the most pathetic hanger-on in history. Anyway, here at the Marin Magazine article on the 2007 Tiburon Art Festival (http://"http://www.marinmagazine.com/Marin-Magazine/November-2007/Tiburon-Art-Festival/") is a picture of our intrepid hero posing with the very beautiful Katie Knipp. Katie Knipp, it seems, is somewhat of a local celebrity (http://"http://www.katieknipp.com/"). She's even the opening act for an upcoming gig with the Doobie Brothers. This is exactly the kind of thing that turns him on. So one wonders why he doesn't brag on his "good friend" Katie. Of course Tom Wright isn't the most unusual name in the world...I suppose there could be more than one, maybe even more than one in Marin County.
Cindie
I wonder what would happen if Ms. Roxanne or Ms. Nancy read some of TiT's DU fabrications.
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"I am the very model of a modern major general"
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon May-29-06 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. You are right.
I witnessed incredible acts of selfless bravery on the part of those pilots.
Landing, hanging in, and taking off with their precious cargo under conditions unimagineable to those who weren't there.
I had one of the more dangerous tasks in country, but guys like your father were my personal heroes.
Totally saved my ass.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1310990
Twice.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-23-07 10:39 PM
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10. I rarely wish that I hadn't have thrown all of mine into SF Bay. This is one of those times.
I would offer every one of them to the little ****er.
I wish every combat vet in the US would mail in one of theirs.
With a "**** you, coward" note.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-23-07 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. This story makes me crazy, Brother.
I walked half-way across the Bay Bridge and just tossed the.
All the way out there I thought about flinging myself off, too, but when those medals and ribbons went over the rail I felt like a new person.
I can see the Bay Bridge from my parking deck, Monkeyman.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-11-06 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Hey, babylonsister...I know exactly how he feels..
Edited on Sat Mar-11-06 06:12 PM by TomInTib
33 years ago this coming July, I sent my medals to their final home.
They are at eternal rest on the bottom of San Francico Bay, mid-span under the Bay Bridge.
The most cathartic action I have ever taken.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-17-07 09:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. He can have mine..
All he has to do is dive off the Bay Bridge (SF Bay) about mid-span.
That's where they are, along with a bunch of other stuff of mine.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x302264
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-28-06 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
4. Crap like this has gone on a long time. But this is especially...
repugnant.
One reason my medals are at the base of the Bay Bridge on the bottom of San Francisco Bay.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2406402
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-05-07 05:13 PM
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1. That reminds me....
Once, while home on leave, the local High School aske me to come talk to the kids.
This was during one of the peaks of protests and I guess they figured, considering the type of work I did over there, that I would go all rah-rah. The pricipal even told me (nudge, nudge) to "wear what you wear every day over there".
So I did.
They were somewhat taken aback when I showed up in a ripped-up camo tee and pants and wearing Converse All-Stars. Maybe it was the bandana on my head that really bugged them. They asked me why didn't I wear my medals (as if we traipsed around wearing medals all the time). Asked me why I didn't wear jungle boots. Told them the ****ing things will get you killed, doing what I do.
So I went to the guy's office and he kind of told me what to say.
Sure, buddy.
So I walk up to the microphone and started, "Just so you will know, my primary mission is the extraction of downed pilots. Sometimes we know right where they are and sometimes we just have a vague idea".
"Sometimes villagers will give us the information we want and sometimes they refuse. So we start by pitching the old people down the well."
Believe it or not, they pulled the plug on me.
The military threatened me with court-martial and I told them I had written down everything and given all (plus pics) to a reporter with the Houston Post (lie) and they just dropped it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1739592
Editors note : I seperated the above because it's a prime example of a tom tale. Bouncy Ball would be proud of him.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-03-07 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Oh, there are numerous guys..
A lot of my guys bought it in Laos.
Not a single one is on The Wall because we weren't in Laos. Remember?
We weren't there.
Got it, Soldier?
Good.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-20-07 07:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. If you are talking about Petreaus and the 'Star, you are sorely mistaken.
This is absolutely outrageous to any of us who actually earned our "junk".
A Bronze with Valor is pretty serious business.
I hope I mis-read your intention.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1862453
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Some of his SEAL buddies aren't on the wall because they "weren't in Laos"? Wouldn't it be easier to say they were killed in Vietnam than to say they were never killed at all? He's such a ****ing liar. No Damn wonder he got along with Dale Peters, AKA Monkeyman. They're both ****ing poser pieces of shit.
http://sec-global.com/services/ctp/vsg/polygraph.html
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Check out this 911 tape...
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-19-07 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Good for Mr Horn
A few years back, my brother shot a guy who was fleeing a botched home invasion.
I am all for neighborhood protection.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-19-07 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Hell, yes.
In 1986, we were living in a log house deep in the woods northwest of Houston.
I'd had constant run-ins with this meth-head punk whose family live down the road. The road was three miles long and had only five houses along it.
Loooonnngg story short...
My cockehead neighbor and I broke up a car theft ring (methboy and his crazy cousin) by running the guys off the road and holding them facedown at gunpoint while waiting for the sheriff.
Well, it was SuperBowl Sunday and we were in the street (methboy and cousin face-down) directly in front of methboy's parents' house with about twenty cars parked in the driveway.
All of a sudden, there was this commotion and about ten people with firearms were running at us from the house. All drunk and shouting and weaving.
I fired a couple of shots (Winchester 1300 Defender12) over their heads and they dropped their guns and got down on the ground maybe twenty yards away.
There was just the two of us holding all those crazy people and the sheriff took forevevr to show up.
And they tried to charge us with kidnapping.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-19-07 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. It was one of the home invaders...
who was running from the Houston cops (who "surrounded" the invaded house, but failed to secure the rear entrance).
He ran through the leaded glass beside my brother's front door.
Big, big mistake.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-19-07 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. No, my brother shot him right between the eyes.
He is a great shot.
And I, personally, would have no problem protecting my neighbors' property.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2314296#2314403
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So, TiT was on his way to the local VFW a couple years ago when he thought he's stop by DU. There the Dummies were, hangin' out and talking about the Marines guarding Saddam. Evidently they made the two-bit dictator watch himself on the South Park movie "Bigger, Longer, Uncut". Well, Tom just couldn't let yet another opportunity go by to remind every fricken person on the planet that he not only served in Vietnam (just like John Kerry) but he wasn't hangin' out on any swift boat. He was doin' shit man! Secret shit! Shit that would curl your hair! Shit that was SO covert the Navy didn't even admit to having (let alone commissioning) SEAL Team 3 until 1983. Most special forces types don't brag on themselves or talk about what they did...good thing we have TiT or else we'd never know! Oh, by the way, the resident ex-military badass doesn't approve...he should know...he knows more about this shit than anyone else.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2001865 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2001865)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-29-06 12:35 AM
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4. If true, this is childish bullshit
Given Saddam's limited English skills and his obvious mental fortitude, this is a waste of time.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-29-06 12:51 AM
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12. That is a great point
see my post #11 right below.
With Saddam's limited English and his innate inner strength, this is an exercise in amateurville.
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Unlike the super important stuff TiT and his fellow SEALs used to do!!!
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-29-06 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. The real deal is this...
I have been involved in a little of this sort of thing.
I am always amazed that we think that what might drive us over the edge will work on someone from a totally different culture.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-29-06 12:57 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. I am with bananas (#9). I cannot understand most of the dialogue
in that episode.
I really doubt that Hussein caught any of it.
And you can bet that if we translated it that it was totally unintelligible.
I certainly didn't intend to imply that you "thought it would work".
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I don't know...how much dialogue do you need to understand what's going on when Saddam and Satan are laying in bed together...especially when Saddam whips out that dildo. I guess I'm most surprised that TiT hasn't already done whatever it is Brian Boitano would've done because, like TiT he "doesn't take shit from anybody".
Cindie
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OMG!!! I'm SO excited...girls we can start swooning again! TiT, that international man of mystery, covert warrior, songwriter, member of SEAL Team 3 before it ever even existed, man behind the counter at a greeting card store near you is BACK IN THE STUDIO AGAIN!!! I think I'm gonna faint! Or hurl...
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed May-14-08 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. "frustrating" is right.
Last October, I had quite a morning...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
But I worked my tail off, re-learning to write, play guitar, eat with utensils, just about everything. Had to reprogram my right hand so that the ulnar network could take over from the radial (my original prognosis was the other way around). I mean, my right hand was just gone on vacation.
Finally got most of my guitar back, so I was doing some recording last Wednesday when suddenly my left hand became very tired. That really got my attention, because my hand never gets tired.
So I put my guitar back in its case, sat down, and felt my left hand leave the room. Felt like someone was pouring warm water on my arm from the elbow down. I felt my hand's energy flow right thru my fingertips. Took maybe a second. And I could not move my hand at all.
Frustrating, indeed.
Perhaps God is smiting the TiTmeister on the wrist.
Cindie
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Calling all you gun nuts out there...how is this possible? I mean I'm sure it is...it's not like TiT would ever make anything up, but I just don't see HOW it could happen. I mean is the brain kind of like a pinball machine where BB's, marbles, grains of rice, etc can just bounce around until it emerges from whereever.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun May-11-08 09:04 PM
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2. What a shame.
I have been on two hunts when kids got shot.
One was a squirrel hunt when a guy shot his son in the top of the head, a single BB entering each eye, blinding the kid.
Another was a 13-year-old who was climbing into a tree stand when a .270 went of, drilling his heart. We found him that evening and my StepFather carried him for over three miles back to camp and had to tell the kid's Dad.
But neither incident involved beer or reefer.
MR. Klaseus should be taken out and shot.
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I think he is talking about the shot (little metal balls) inside of shotgun shells. They disperse when they leave the barrel. Then again he could just be stupid. :-)
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TIT reiterates that he never went to school,never watched tv and guess what he was a crazy fundie who turned into an atheist at 7 or 8 :whatever:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 08:16 PM
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1. I cannot even imagine where these people's minds are.
What the hell happens in someone's life that makes them so malleable, so acquiescent?
And you can add me to your "angry" list, pnwmom.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 08:47 PM
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4. Why are they so malleable? Did you read about how Merrill Jessop
would waterboard babies?
Really. According to an ex-wife, he would spank them till they cried, then hold their faces under running faucets until they finally gave up and stopped crying. He called it "breaking" them.
The other thing is, imagine you're growing up in a community, where you're completely isolated and abuse is equated with love. You're told that in the outside world things are even worse. Why wouldn't you believe that? What would give you hope?
Carolyn Jessup, the mother who escaped with her 8 children, has described what finally opened her eyes. After a lifetime of hearing about how evil outsiders were, she finally came in contact with them when one of her sons was hospitalized for cancer surgery. She felt abandoned by her sister wives and other FLDSers. But the outsiders in the hospital impressed her with their caring. That's what finally gave her the courage to reject everything she'd been taught from childhood and to risk everything in a (successful) attempt at escape.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. Goodness
I grew up in a fundie, tho less crazy (Southern Baptist) environment.
But, at about the age of 7 or 8, I realized it was all a bunch of malarkey.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. But you went to public school, right? Where you met other people
and were exposed to other ideas? And you had a TV, I bet.
Even in a fundie school, you wouldn't have been as isolated as these people. It's almost unimaginable.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Nope.
I never attended school a day of my life.
But I wanted to. So badly.
No TV, either.
I led a more isolated life than those kids in El Dorado could even imagine.
Tom
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Yikes!
Did you have books? What do you think saved you? Was the service the first time you were exposed to the "real world"?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Well....
I am not going into it here.
Those fools from that "Other Place" track me, incessantly.
Jerking off in their Mother's basement.
PM me, remind me.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
Which other place Tom? :-)http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3146562 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3146562)
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Check out this bio on Roky Erickson. Especially the part about his mental illness and stint in a hospital for the criminally insane. Is TiT trying to say he's Tommy Hall?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roky_Erickson
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Check out this bio on Roky Erickson. Especially the part about his mental illness and stint in a hospital for the criminally insane. Is TiT trying to say he's Tommy Hall?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roky_Erickson
That's a curious thing to do, stealing people's mail and scotch-taping it to one's walls, unopened.
But I don't think the lying titty primitive's ever alleged to own a Volvo.
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Check out this bio on Roky Erickson. Especially the part about his mental illness and stint in a hospital for the criminally insane. Is TiT trying to say he's Tommy Hall?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roky_Erickson
That's a curious thing to do, stealing people's mail and scotch-taping it to one's walls, unopened.
But I don't think the lying titty primitive's ever alleged to own a Volvo.
I think TiT is just taking advantage of a poor, tortured musical genius who had/had bigger problems than worrying about some internet tool lying about his past. The lying titty primitive loves to glom on to people like this. It's downright fascinating.
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TiT was homeschooled?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3023082 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3023082)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-10-07 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. 10th Period?
Even though I never attended any school, that sure seems like a lot of class periods.
So what counts as a "period"?
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Wow...just wow!
Cindie
This contradicts the post of his earlier in this thread, where he said he was a high-school dropout. How do you drop out if you never attended?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-11-08 11:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Well....
I am not going into it here.
Those fools from that "Other Place" track me, incessantly.
Jerking off in their Mother's basement.
PM me, remind me.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
Don't flatter yourself, TiT. I AM the mother and I don't have a basement. I have a full, active, wonderful life...but then I'm not a alcoholic loser who works at a greeting card shop and has to invent a life. I want to expose you as the fraud you are for the same reason I wanted to expose Andy...your sociopathic need to be the center of attention sullies the reputations of and negates the hard work of others clearly better than you. If it was just the raging, half insane hatemongers at DU who were subject to all your lies I really wouldn't care...but you post ugly, vile things on a public message board. If someone's suffering...you've suffered worse, if someone did something heroic, you did something 20 times braver, if someone is spewing hate, you're going to spew more. The only time you appear to care about others is when you can play I'm the biggest badass on the planet like offering to come down and "kill those dogs and their owner too." If it was just that kind of thing I wouldn't care...it doesn't really hurt anyone and it evidently makes you feel like a big man. You seem to imagine yourself to be this Oliver Stone soldier/Bob Dylan/Walter Mitty/Jesse Ventura/George Plimpton guy.
Granted some of your lying is downright laughable. Trying to pawn off other people's songs as your own...it's SO ****ing obvious you even get called on it by your fellow DUers. But you just keep doing it over and over again. When the first reaction of your own compatriots is to Google the lyrics to see who REALLY wrote them, perhaps it's time to get a new gig. You claim to have never gone to public school because your family was super religious Southern Baptist types. Oh, and your abuse and isolation was worse than those poor FLDS kids in El Dorado. Even were that the case, you're an adult...if you truly understand you might try having a little empathy for those children instead of making the thread all about you. I do have to say, if you truly were homeschooled (and someone taught you to read and write...too bad you didn't learn about integrity) then I applaud your pioneering parents. When you were growing up homeschooling wasn't legal and parents who chose that option took great risks to do what they thought was best for their children. Speaking of children...I wonder how your sons feel about you inventing a life for them. I am kind of curious (and considering how you like to brag about the famous people you know) which one of these percussionists is your son: Michael Carabello, Marcus Malone, Jose 'Chepito' Areas, Rico Reyes, Victor Pantoja, Coke Escovedo, Pete Escovedo, James Mingo Lewis, Armando Peraza, Francisco Aguabella, Orestes Vilato, Raul Rekow, or Carl Perazzo?
The part of your made-up "hard knock" life (that's from Little Orphan Annie so don't steal it) that pisses me off is your Navy SEAL crap. You've embraced every single stereotype, especially the negative ones, that your generation believes about Vietnam. You're a badass, a killer, a covert op, you've tortured and killed innocents, and like John Kerry, were in Cambodia, Laos, and where ever else "we" weren't supposed to be. Basically I think you've watched Apocolypse Now and Platoon too many times. I don't know whether you served or whether you were actually in country (the fact that you wouldn't know something like DEROS...try googling next time...prettly much makes that suspect) but I know damn well you weren't covert and you sure the hell weren't a SEAL. This is another one you might want to redo...SEAL Team 3 DIDN'T EXIST DURING THE VIETNAM WAR! They only just celebrated their 25th anniversary. How were you part of something that hadn't yet been formed? You really should've done some research before that one. If you can take the time to look up lyrics to steal it seems you could also find the minute or two necessary to find out what SEAL Teams were actually in Vietnam (it was 1 & 2). When you tell your "we threw old people down wells to get intel" stories you damage the reputations of those who really did serve in every branch in every conflict and even those who served in peacetime. Just who the hell do you think you are?
My father-in-law fought in WWII. He marched from Normandy to Berlin and fought in some of the bloodiest battles in WWII. He was bayonetted in the side during the battle of Hurtgen Forest and never told a soul because he didn't want to leave his unit. He has never shouted any of this to the world at large or even family gatherings. Most of this he told my son when he was learning about WWII and some of it had to literally be pulled out of him. My husband says he NEVER talked about it while he was growing up. Like most real soldiers, he was very humble and didn't feel the need to brag about it. My mother-in-law was one of the first lady Marines, something she's very proud of. She worked stateside with gyroscopes and never once tried to invent stories about super secret missions or other nonsense. She served and that was good enough for her. My uncle was Air Force Special Forces in Vietnam (he enlisted). I don't know a whole lot about what he did since he doesn't brag about it every chance he gets. The extent of my knowledge is that he went oversees and when he came home he gave me an Alice in Wonderland doll he bought in Germany and he brought me a kitten a couple weeks later when I was sick. I was living with my grandparents (his parents) when he came home because my parents were flaking out yet again. The fact that this 23 year old young man, after everything he'd done and everything he'd seen actually thought to buy his little niece a doll on his way home says more about his character than whatever he did in Vietnam.
My oldest son served in the Coast Guard. His service was pretty uneventful for the most part. He was stationed in Alaska and most of what he did was saving drunk fishermen from themselves, a few rescue missions, and inspecting cargo containers. He did get to do a lot of fishing which is his favorite thing in the world next to his wife and kids so that was probably his favorite part. Much of what he did was monotonous and boring more often than not but he says he loved it and he's glad he was there just in case something happened. He never tried to pretend he was a Coast Guard SEAL. Though he does have a friend he met he nicknamed Cornpone who he keeps in touch with. His friend calls him Trout so I guess he would have to claim to be a covert Coast Guard TROUT. My youngest is in the Marine Corps. He's still in training and get's very uncomfortable when someone says thank you to him. He says, "Mom, I haven't done anything yet." He does have his security clearance but with the exception of running his squad past the Code Pinkos and other assorted dirty hippies during PT (they love doing that) has never gone into enemy territory, covertly or otherwise. Monterey has a few gang members but it doesn't seem to be a hotbed of terrorism. There are quite a few active duty military on the message boards I post at including this one. Not one of them has ever bragged about what they do. Most don't even mention it. They don't need to prove themselves or pump up their ego. And THAT is why I care about what you say. You are sullying the reputations of people clearly better, braver, and more humble than you. Why can't you just pretend to be James Bond?
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The lying titty primitive says:
In '72 I was on a DE called the USS Rathburne (since converted to something else) DE1057 (I think), escorting the USS Enterprise in WestPac and pulling the same duty as my friends were. I was on covalescent leave and that is how the Navy let me spend it, instead of going home to patch up.
The Commander was a total asshole named Chang, the first Chinese-born Commander of a US Naval warship.
Same ****ing thing happened except it was not a joint exercise.
And the boat I was on had just come out of drydock in Pearl and had a state-of-the-art rubber sonar dome - the first one ever installed. The boat was the designated pinger of the Carrier Group and totally missed it.
They could've sunk the ****ing Enterprise.
Chang lost his command over that one.
I want to send you a hilarious Chang story tomorrow. PM me a reminder, if you will.
Hmmm....I wonder if the lying titty primitive saw this movie?
In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, the Enterprise escorts Klingon chancellor Gorkon (David Warner) to a peace summit on Earth. The renegade Klingon general Chang (Christopher Plummer), assisted by traitors aboard the Enterprise, makes it appear that the Enterprise fires on the chancellor's vessel. The Klingons take Kirk and Leonard McCoy (DeForest Kelley) prisoner; Spock and the Enterprise crew disregard Starfleet orders and instead rescue Kirk and McCoy. The Enterprise encounters and, with aid from the USS Excelsior, destroys Chang's ship, and the crew protects the Federation President from an assassination attempt. The film concludes with Starfleet ordering the ship to return to spacedock to be decommissioned, an order which Kirk and the crew gleefully disregard.
:rotf: :rotf:
Obviously there is a real USS Enterprise which is well documented and easily researched via Google. I just thought it hilarious that he seems to have conflated fact with fiction (AGAIN).
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I just can't help it. Googling this tool is fun. :-)
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Celebrities?
You never know who might show up in Tiburon. Here are some lists of well known residents of Tiburon and Marin County:
Belvedere-Tiburon Current Residents
Jonny Moseley - Olympic Gold Ski Champion
Peter Thibeaux - former Golden State Warriors
Mervin Field - The Field Poll
Stuart Peterson - YouTube investor (purchased Andre Aggassi's old house)
Belvedere-Tiburon Former Residents
Robert Redford - hollywood icon
Robin Williams - comedian
Tom Snyder - Talk show host (deceased)
Andre Aggasiz / Steffi Graff - Tennis
Brad Byrd - Creator of Ratatouille
Marin County Residents
Dana Carvey - comedian
George Lucas - filmaker
Sean Penn
Robin Wright Penn
Van Morrison - musician
Peter Coyote - actor
Huey Lewis - musician
Bonnie Raitt - musician
Sammy Hagar
Jill Eikenberry
Michael Tucker
Carlos Santana
Crispin Glover
Jerry Yang
DJ Shadow
Ram Dass
Dr. Larry Brilliant
Marin County Former Residents
Tupak Shakur
Grace Slick - Jefferson Starship
Celebrities who like to visit Tiburon
Robin Williams
Carlos Santana
Visitors Who May Come Back
Bill Gates / Warren Buffet
(for Servino's pepperoni pizza and to play Bridge with Master Bridge Player, Angelo Servino. The view from Servino's Bellavista Room doesn't hurt either.)
Politicians who have visited Tiburon
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
Local Residents Who have made their mark:
Amy Cooper - Musician
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Damn Tom, we have more celebrities that visit Augusta than that. I'm sure you know why as I'm sure you'll next say you were offered a membership but turned it down because it was full of evil corporate Rethugs. ::)
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And yet another thing TiT did in the war (this on a thread discussing unscrupulous recruiters
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 02:03 PM
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1. Yeah, like when they told me....
Edited on Thu May-15-08 02:03 PM by TomInTib
"TomInTib, with vision like yours, you could qualify to be an Aerial Photographer which I later learned translated to Target in a Helicopter Door.
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What a guy!
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Presenting for your entertainment
The Ms. TominTib encore performance.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-06-06 12:58 AM
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5. Must be an advert...you know who really has a problem with
uppity black women?...black men! That's when the chickens come home to roost!
Hey R, this is from Ms. TominTib.
B
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-27-05 01:13 AM
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"Why do we never get an answer..."
Watching the Moody Blues special on PBS tonight...this is their finale, and the question of the song seems so apt right now..."
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10. Smile...Ms. TominTib has a distinct memory of dancing with
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a rather tall young man at the age of 16 to the tune of "Stairway to Heaven". He was a little hygiene-challenged, and my nose was stuck in his armpit for what is arguably the longest song in the entire world.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-07-06 12:47 AM
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9. Mr. President, if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be...
..."thank you for that question, Helen...if I were a tree (which I am not because I am a man of God), I would be a puny sapling that would have been mowed down by your mighty weed-whacker of justice if I had not sold my soul to the Devil(Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice), who is now in charge."
Thank Goodness I have swapped Saint Peter with Alberto Gonzales! WHEW!!!!!
B
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-07-06 12:47 AM
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9. Mr. President, if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be...
..."thank you for that question, Helen...if I were a tree (which I am not because I am a man of God), I would be a puny sapling that would have been mowed down by your mighty weed-whacker of justice if I had not sold my soul to the Devil(Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice), who is now in charge."
Thank Goodness I have swapped Saint Peter with Alberto Gonzales! WHEW!!!!!
B
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-07-06 12:52 AM
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11. Ms. Tomintib here...you don't know my very funky white boy....
although - and it may or not be because of living with me - he is best with the blues.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-09-05 09:10 PM
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4. Ms. Tomintib lived in Canadia for 25 years as a US expat, and
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I have to tell you that I miss the fundamental decency of the Canadian people. Thought twice about coming back to the US because of how dog eat dog this country can be.
Can't go back to Canada (never became a Canadian citizen), so I guess I'll have to soldier on here.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-09-05 11:53 PM
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14. How do you know so many sociopathic Canadians? I spent
many years there, and I don't. Also, how many American bazillionaires would help Canadians? I haven't even heard of many helping out here yet.
The US is very much more an "every man for himself" kind of place than Canada is. I've spent 25 years there, and 19 here (most recently that last four), and there is a definite difference.
Canadia is far from perfect, but they are much less ruthless there. We need more "ruth" here.
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You spent many years there, and still can't ****ing spell it ???
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-15-05 12:49 AM
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24. I'm in junior high, and I forgot to wear a shirt to class, and study
for the test.
Ms. TominTib.
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For Tomintib's birthday today, I'm giving him his 1000+ post...
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Won't you all wish him a Happy Birthday?
Thanks,
Ms. Tomintib
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-02-06 11:11 PM
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"Catalyst George"...something he finally did right...
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He's finally starting to live up to his own hype to become "a uniter, not a divider". Our very own, highly incurious "Chimp in Chief" has begun to unite liberals, true conservatives - and most of the world in general - against him and his administration. This is a truly significant achievement, one far beyond anything he could have ever hoped to accomplish if he had truly set out to do this very thing - such is the level of his astonishing, tone-deaf ineptitude.
Traveling in India right now, although he has earned the censure of that county and - he admits - his own wife for his odd refusal to visit the Taj Mahal, he is currently enjoying the gratitude of a nation that has accepted millions of our jobs in return for our willingness to purchase their mangoes. Curious about the Taj Mahal omission, though...perhaps it could not be properly secured...that or the sight of dozens and dozens of black bullet-proof vehicles and security forces flown in at great expense to the U.S. taxpayers would have clashed somewhat with the blindingly beautiful beacon of that country. Not the ideal photo-op.
The ultimate coup de grace may be the UAE Dubai ports deal. This may turn out to be a reasonable proposition. Whatever area our national expertise lies in, it is not in port management. This is neither part of our history nor of our particular expertise. But the base - whipped up consistently since 9/11 around terrorist threats and a rainbow of Homeland Security color-code warnings tied to political events - does not like the idea of a bunch of Arabs being in charge of our ports. Even though the UAE has an indoor ski resort and sent a bunch of money for Katrina victims, they are one of only three governments who recognize the Taliban. The base is having just a little trouble understanding this. They have been conditioned to think that Arabs, gay marriage and abortion are our enemy.
So, our president is in India hiding from a smaller, sadder Mardi Gras and the Katrina debacle whose flames the indignant "Brownie" is fanning along with the release of a tape showing that Bush and Cherthoff were fully aware of the situation. He paid the usual, inarticulate lip-service to the impending disaster from the Crawford ranch - where he spent days and days and days on end avoiding Cindy Sheehan - and then went to a fund-raiser in California where he strummed a gift guitar while the levees breached, ate some cake with McCain and then claimed an unanticipated breech of the levees.
A bit like Condi claiming that they couldn't anticipate anyone flying planes into buildings, after the PDB "Osama determined to strike in US", because they didn't have specific dates and times. Now they are arguing semantics over levees being "topped" vs. "breached".
Questionable vote-counting, torture, Medicare prescription bill, Wiretapping, Plame-gate...they're all on the back-burner now - at least until Karl testifies...
George, you stole the elections, so you never had the left. You've lost the true conservatives and the fringe is having serious doubts. Enjoy your trip to India. Maybe you can bring a jar of mango chutney back home to Texas for Tom Delay. Where is he these days, anyway? Jack, can you give us a clue?
Thank you for finally uniting the left, right and the whole world against something that we can finally agree on...you. How much did this actually cost us anyway? We are forever in your debt. Our children and our grand-children too...
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-02-06 11:33 PM
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2. Why, thank you...
This is Ms. Tomintib, so the voice of this post was pitched differently.
Looks like this pipsqueak popinjay has finally managed to pull something off - and it appears to be his pants, per Tomintib.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-03-06 12:24 AM
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4. Hey,COC....
my sweetheart wrote that. I am far too Neanderthal for that sort of rumination.
Think we should re-post in the A.M., considering the time deal?
Oh, yeah, "orange cat"
We have neighbors who have thirteen marmalade tabbies all adopted from the street and all named after various cheeses. Our favorites are Fontina, Romano and Cream Cheese. Cheeto gets a little hissy, but he is the elder statesman. Provolone has a kinked tail, and the rest, including Tilsit, Tillamook and Gouda are pretty cool. Even though this is Marin County, CA - none are named Brie, to the best of my knowledge. Thank goodness for that!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-01-05 09:52 PM
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If Gore or Kerry were President right now...
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what would we do without all of the drama and the outrage of the astonishing Bushco incompetence and theivery of the past five years?
I think that we'd still be terribly concerned over this latest crisis in a much more constructive and useful way, but would we miss our adrenaline-fuelled outrage?
Could * be turning us into drama junkies like the RW'ers when they had their panties in a bunch over Clinton's blow-job?
Would we miss the smirk, the chin-wiggle, and the inablility to speak intelligently, much less extemporaneously?
Would democraticunderground even need to exist?
As much as I love conversing with y'all, I really wish we didn't have so much grist for our mill.
All the lives forever changed (and lost) since 2000 is really wearing me out.
Ms. Tomintib
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-19-06 11:46 PM
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2. I was in Austin the night that Carla Faye went down...
Ms.Tomintib here...
I was to meet Tom on a tryst - he didn't show (although he is with me now) and I have a vivid memory of staying in The Driscoll Hotel and observing the demise of Carla Faye...it was kind of surreal...stranded in TX watching the death of one of the rare women to be executed, and feeling like a fish out of any water I have ever known. Land of executions.
All that I knew was that TX was the leading state in executions, under GWB. GWB of the "snowflake babies" and protecting "innocent" life. Get born, mess up, and we have every right to kill you. Just a gleam in Daddy's eye...you have every protection under the law, except support.
Kind of interesting that embryos have better health care and more protections under the law than actual walking and talking living human beings. Where is my petri dish when I need it?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-12-05 12:07 AM
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8. Okay...I might get some of this wrong, and I ain't got no education
in either country, but I spent half of my life in each country...
A community college degree in Canada is roughly equivalent to a college degree in the US, except that many use college as a jumping off point to go to University, as some credits can be transferred.
From thereonin, the bachelor, masters, PhD process is pretty much the same.
The US though, has many un-accredited colleges (does Canada have the same - I forget) whose degrees are not academically relevant, although they may teach skills requisite to certain types of employment.
One thing that I do know though, is that you are much more likely to hear "Where did you go to school?" here in the US than in Canada, and when someone asks you that, they mean a university, not a college.
I remember answering that question at a company dinner while seated next to our Stanford-educated Chairman, and I - as a Canadian VP - answered "East Lambton Secondary School". He was rather taken aback, but not as taken aback as he should have been if he had known that my HS graduating class had only 30 students. I just got lucky with hard work and opportunities.
Ms. Tomintib
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-05-06 11:56 PM
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26. I am ready for dead...I just think that the process of death might
be a little uncomfortable...and am so not looking forward to the final breath.
Ms.TomIntib here...
I lost a husband and two wonderful lovers in just under two years to death. It was an incredible soul-stretching experience, for which I am forever grateful. It was a remarkable learning experience, that I bore on this side of life. The earth-world is a hard school, and I look forward to graduation day, although I hope it is relatively painless...the life-force that drives us is so strong, that it is hard to let go.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-29-06 01:44 AM
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18. I live just down the road from San Quentin...
home of Charles Manson and Scott Peterson, among others...
And yet I remember that old saw "Thou shalt not kill"....so if somebody kills somebody else, it's okay to kill them? This is a logic that I cannot understand.
This is Ms.Tomintib (not Tom himself, who believes in "off with their heads" and is all for capital punishment being delivered in the way it was committed...an eye for an eye...), but I just cannot even begin to understand saying killing is wrong, so we will kill you..
BTW...San Quentin sits on prime real estate and the locals are really interested in moving the killers down the road apiece so that they can develop that space. If you are on death row, you might as well be in Levinworth or some other sorry place without a Bay view...
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat May-13-06 02:29 AM
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26. All human life is sacred from the time of thei first kiss...
except for rape and incest. This is totally bogus reasoning. Either life is sacred or it is not. Motivation and situation - rape and incest - as mitigating factors mean that life is not truly sacred from conception. And the ones who hold that it does - they don't seem too willing to take on the offspring of their personal philosophy once they are born.
Plan B needs to be over the counter, sex-ed that happened in my day needs to happen today, and everyone needs the resources to prevent unplanned pregnancy. And - if like me - you find yourself pregnant at any age (in my case 42 years) then you need another measure.
Ms. Tomintib
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat May-13-06 02:17 AM
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23. I think that you should talk to Planned Parenthood...
They embrace women in all stages of the reproductive cycle and hold them accountable every step of the way. There is no better model. This is Ms. TomInTib talking, and I have been through all of it at the ripe old age of 42 years, and so feel a certain perspective. They are ultimately supportive of women and hold their hands through every step of the reproductive process without judgement. This is as real and true as you will ever get. Just talk to them. No politics, no agenda, just real women supporting real women in their lives. If I ever have a pile of money, I am sending a large portion of it their way....
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-14-05 01:39 AM
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154. Balance of trade...in 2000 this US expat moved from Candadia
back to the US (for love) and was commuting between Vancouver, BC and Miami (!) while the Supreme Court was deciding who was the president.
As we all know, they chose wrong, but I moved here anyway. Then I moved to California, and Aaah-nold took this state. I am trying hard not to feel personally respondible for this.
The very first election that I voted in in my life was in 2004 - and I not only voted for Kerry, but I was an electoral officer.
Don't quite know how justinsb got to Canada so easily (I would have to re-emmigrate after having lived there for 25 years.) I was hesitant to move back here after having left at the age of 14 - knowing that it was irrecovocable - but I am staying and fighting!
Ms. Tomintib.
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"I gave a girl a ride in my wagon
She crawled in and took control
She was tired 'cause her mind was a-draggin'
I said, get some sleep and dream of rock and roll"
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-29-08 01:42 PM
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5. Priorities...
and easy busts.
We had this crazy Sheriff who lived on a road along Sargent's Beach, a popular surfing area - although quite remote back then.
And we used to drive him crazy.
He once ripped open the side door of my van in the middle of the night and bellowed, "Look here, TomInTib! You can smoke your pot, take your acid, and screw all the hippie chicks you want. Just DO NOT speed up and down my road!".
I was doing all three of the above at that very moment.
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Wonder if this was before or after he was a SEAL in Nam.
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Good grief, I had never seen the MsTominTib posts before. I wonder if he put on makeup to get into character before he spewed that load of bs.
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Alone again, naturally. Once again it's ALL ABOUT HIM.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 02:25 PM
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10. We all see things differently, I suppose.
When I left The Last Great Love of My Life, I had no idea where the road was going to lead.
So I gave her my Golden Retriever (and the cars, and the house). I wanted to make sure that he, at least, had a safe place to sleep and comfortable, safe, familiar surroundings.
This article is about someone who was basically homeless and, subsequently jobless because of the dogs. And now she can barely afford to eat.
I would eat the dogs.
Don't get me too far wrong, here, because some of the best friends I've had in my life have been of the four-legged variety.
But I do not think it is fair to drag an innocent animal down with you if you can help it.
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Actually the article stated that she moved back to Montana because she owned a home there...I don't know too many homeless people who own houses...but the important thing here is that TiT left the last great love of his life...he dumped her because no one leaves tom!
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. "In the end your spouse and your pets are about it."
Not here, truedelphi.
It's down to me.
For the first time in my life, I am completely alone.
Life gets curious, sometimes.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-15-08 06:49 PM
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28. Don't feel sorry for me
I have had more than my share of Life.
No one I know has had as much fun, adventure, passion or music.
Life is just showing me that there is an element of balance to it all.
Alone isn't all that bad.
It's not as if I am lonely.
Hell, I still have my looks and a better-than-average voice.
Toss Ol' Cranky out the window, truedelphi.
Tom
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Of course all your songs are plagiarized but those are just details and I'm sure there are plenty of hippie chicks who'd think you were cute. One thing I've always been curious about though...why are hippie chicks always at least 20 lbs. overweight?
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Fri May-16-08 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. Ol Cranky - she be gone today.
As far as people in crisis, there's no pity from me, Tom, just respect.
On the emotional highways of life, things can be rough. We are taught that success is to be respected, and that failure of any type is a sign of weakness.
But anyone with a cents worth of common 'cents' knows that life's lessons come at a steep price, and that others must respect anyone walking through the Shadowy Valley of Life Lessons - whether the walker has a good voice or not!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri May-16-08 04:04 PM
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32. Glad she's gone.
Goodness, I didn't mean to sound maudlin. I am having the time of my life. It's just that - for the first time in my adult life - I am on my on.
But I am rockin', having a ball. Back in the studio and recording, too. The Crazy Woman who I spent the past seven years with would never let me concentrate on my music.
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Maybe she heard your voice or maybe knew most of "your" music belonged to someone else and didn't want the legal hassles.
truedelphi (1000+ posts) Fri May-16-08 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. You say: But I am rockin', having a ball.
Great news and glad to hear it. What musical influences are you under? (if any)
But please don't pipe up abt the benefits of the single life too much - I don't want Mr Delphi to get too many ideas. (He's had to deal with his Crazy Woman for (going on) fourteen yrs.)
I hope he's a stronger man for it.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri May-16-08 04:49 PM
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39. ....
Heck, I was (still am, legally) married for 33 years.
I write my own stuff, mostly.
Texas Music, but not country. My influences are all over the map. My style, however, is my own.
From rockin' blues to lyrical acoustic.
From Hank Williams to Lightnin' Hopkins to Townes Van Zandt and Johnny Winter.
Just a muckin' fess of stuff.
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We'll just let that speak for itself.
Cindie
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So, how exactly DOES military veterans healthcare work? Because here (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3243658") TiT talks about when he didn't have health insurance:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 05:29 PM
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1. When I was uninsured, I never gave it a second's thought.
But, then, my motto has always been, "Sure, why not?".
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun May-04-08 05:42 PM
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8. Nah. Just too dumb to think about it.
Added to the fact that I always figured that if I spent too much time worrying about anything, I would probably never see the trash truck that would hit me while I was distracted.
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But I thought if you served your time you had benefits for life. My in-laws who served during WWII have VA benefits as does my uncle. I suppose TiT could be talking about before he enlisted/was drafted, whatever it is we're supposed to believe, but think about it, does anyone fresh out of high school think about healthcare? Especially during the Vietnam War. Even the hippies didn't care. I'm confused.
Cindie
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Cindy, if I may comment...great job. You've found stuff I didn't know existed, especially the Ms. TominTib garbage. My comment on that is, perhaps this is the basis of the "my girlfriend stole my password and was posting stuff as me" claim. Not that it would have been difficult to change the stupid password. But I want point out that there is also a DU member called ellaydubya (Lee Ann Wright) who is allegedly the ex but still legal wife of TiT and mother of sons (Alan and Will?). If you dredge up her stuff-and I always suspected she was just a sock puppet-it sounds suspiciously like the style of Ms. TominTib. "Ellay" seems to exist chiefly for the purpose of telling Tom how special he is from time to time, although she does seem to provide another outlet for (his?) searing intellectual observations.
Even so, I think you are just beginning to crack the surface, and slogging through it all is a challenge. It's difficult to read and take in how he's been all over the board with multiple and contradictory versions of everything. Could it be organized into categories? Like TiT-The childhood (oh, there's a treasure trove!). TiT-The Military. TiT-Drinking & Drugs. TiT-I Fought the Law and Of Course, I Won. TiT-Women & Big Boys. TiT & Brushes With Fame & The Famous. Etc., etc.
Good job, Cindy-I look forward to the novel!
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Cindy, if I may comment...great job. You've found stuff I didn't know existed, especially the Ms. TominTib garbage. My comment on that is, perhaps this is the basis of the "my girlfriend stole my password and was posting stuff as me" claim. Not that it would have been difficult to change the stupid password. But I want point out that there is also a DU member called ellaydubya (Lee Ann Wright) who is allegedly the ex but still legal wife of TiT and mother of sons (Alan and Will?). If you dredge up her stuff-and I always suspected she was just a sock puppet-it sounds suspiciously like the style of Ms. TominTib. "Ellay" seems to exist chiefly for the purpose of telling Tom how special he is from time to time, although she does seem to provide another outlet for (his?) searing intellectual observations.
Even so, I think you are just beginning to crack the surface, and slogging through it all is a challenge. It's difficult to read and take in how he's been all over the board with multiple and contradictory versions of everything. Could it be organized into categories? Like TiT-The childhood (oh, there's a treasure trove!). TiT-The Military. TiT-Drinking & Drugs. TiT-I Fought the Law and Of Course, I Won. TiT-Women & Big Boys. TiT & Brushes With Fame & The Famous. Etc., etc.
Good job, Cindy-I look forward to the novel!
Actually LC EFA found all the great Ms. TomInTib stuff. As for the categories...yes I've been thinking about that myself. I think the best way to do that is to continue to put all the stuff we find here on this thread...kind of like a brainstorming thread and I'll start another one that puts things in order. Now all we need is something to call the evolving and ever changing life of TiT.
Cindie
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Titties Unleashed
:-)
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With sincere apologies to Thurber, "The Not-So-Secret (and Ridiculously Exaggerated Fictional Internet) Life of Tom 'Titty' Wright?"
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Typical Tom Thread {SupaSEALRangersGunNutTom Mode}
catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-23-07 12:01 PM
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Did anyone watch Mythbusters Wednesday night?
At the end of the program Jamie came up out of a black suv with a massive machine Gatling gun, i believe they called it an M60. It made me wonder if blackwater was using these in Iraq. These guns are scary heavy ordinance, I forget the rate of fire, but it sounded like one shot being fired just zip. Something like this could cut through a barricade in no time flat.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-23-07 12:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. It is a wicked weapon.
Edited on Fri Nov-23-07 12:18 PM by TomInTib
However, due to a design flaw, the M60 is not capable of extended fire.
Even though it can pop about 10 rounds per second, the barrel will fail after about 100 rapid-fire rounds. They designed a lightweight barrel for mobility, but the barrels melt so easily that the gunner has to carry extra barrels. Brilliant, that.
It also cannot be used overhead.
But the M60 can definitely mess stuff up.
Tom's the former supa sekrit soldierâ„¢ but doesn't attempt to inform the OP that an M60, is not a gatling gun.
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Fri Nov-23-07 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. M60 isn't a gatling style though is it?
Doh!
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-23-07 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Link-belt fed.
I missed the "Gatling" part in the OP.
My eyes went directly to M60, since I have spent way too much time around those things.
As far as I know, the only "Gatling" (revolving barrels) style weapons are used on attack helos and A-10 Warthogs.
But, as always, I could be wrong.
oooo nice save, Tom
tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-23-07 12:28 PM
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6. That wasn't a M60
Edited on Fri Nov-23-07 12:29 PM by tularetom
M60 was used in Vietnam and could only fire about 10 rounds per second for about 10 seconds. It also had a tendency to jam.
This was a rotating gatling type gun with multiple barrels and I believe they said it could fire 3000 rounds per minute (that's 50 per second) and it appeared too big to be handled by one person so it must be mounted.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-23-07 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Usually on choppers or A-10 Warthogs. nt
Calling the GAU8 a "gatling gun", is like calling a giant blood thirsty lion , "kitty".
nb: I can't quite get the syntax of the post : I sure HOPE he wasn't saying an M60 was mounted on an A10, in Vietnam
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2333945
This is from a different thread but thought it was worth including.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-07-05 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. We used WP grenades in VietNam
Tossed 'em right into hooches.
The carnage is beyond description. Jump in the water and it keeps on burning.
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TomInTib...car guy!!!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-22-07 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. I'm really interested in the Tesla.
But the Lambo blew the launch.
I had a LP640 (Murcielago) which would punch thru 60 in 3.3 or.4.
Traded it for a Carrera GT (which I am extremely proud of)
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Apr-23-07 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. You have a 928 GT? Dream car...
I once had a 928 S (traded a Jensen Interceptor).
Never even got to drive a GT.
Yeah, I have the GT (V10).
Certified smoker.
It is better than I am.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-22-07 10:49 PM
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7. The Lambo blew the launch.
I have drove a Murcielago (LP640) for a while and it will punch 60 in under 3.5, usually 3.4 or.3 in perfect conditions.
After that, it really squirts.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Apr-22-07 11:02 PM
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12. I never use enough words.
While the Lambo driver missed something, the Chevy was awesome.
I would love to own it and race it. I wish I could hear it live.
I would go biodiesel if I could have something that fast.
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Now that's damn funny...the guy uses SO many words he gets himself in trouble. Here's my question, though. The guy is an ex-con which pretty much keeps him out of most high paying jobs, he works at a card shop (an upscale one, but still a card shop) and lives in one of the most expensive places in the country...how the hell does he afford all those fancy cars?
Cindie
Cindie
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STOP THE PRESSES!!! MORE FAMOUS PEOPLE TiT KNOWS!!!!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-14-08 03:53 PM
Response to Original message
2. Those Blue Q guys are hilarious. US Company, as well
I mean, the line is a screamer.
Here's the Jesus line:
http://www.dogpile.com/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL...
I have known Mitch and Seth since they did their first Trade Show.
http://www.blueq.com/about-us/
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apnu (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-14-08 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. You know these guys?
So are they serious or joking here?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-14-08 04:33 PM
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4. Deadly serious.
But Life is a running joke for them.
Check out the Company site in my reply.
Here, I will save you the effort.
Check it out, it is hilarious.
http://www.blueq.com/about-us/
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I think I figured out where all his money comes from...he probably worms his way into these people's lives, has several pictures taken with them and then blackmails them to keep mum about whether he knows them.
Cindie
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As far as I know, the only "Gatling" (revolving barrels) style weapons are used on attack helos and A-10 Warthogs.
And the F-16, 15, 22, 35, 18 and the AV8B.
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I had a busy busy week this last week and I didn't realize this thread had been compiled. I haven't read the whole thread but I plan to. I compliment everyone on their outstanding work.... Delilah, this was an awesome idea.
I think Hookem is smiling. :)
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OK...this isn't anyone famous but I bet you don't hear this everyday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4811059 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4811059)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-28-08 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
35. Or Lumberton...
I actually remember when Lumberton was called Chance-Loeb.
Goodness, I knew some crazy people who lived there.
My Grandfather had a guy named Houston Brown who worked for him. Houston lived (by choice) in a large culvert and chased cars like a dog. He was killed doing that.
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I swear if he didn't do something himself, he knew someone who did. Sometimes I'm not sure whether I'm watching, "Apocolypse Now", "One Life to Live", "COPS", or Ringling Brothers.
Cindie
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Ho Hum...another thing TiT's an expert at...now he can tell because of how her eyes look (just from photos mind you) that Cindy McCain is a drug addict...opiates of course.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 09:45 PM
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8. In the opiates business, we call it "pinned".
When you are doing certain types of drugs, your pupils become mere pinpoints, thus the term.
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I thought he was in the art business.
rurallib (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Really?? I thought maybe she had some strange contacts or something
That's interesting. Does it ever go away or does it indicate recent drug use?
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Someone needs to pull it's head out of all that rural dirt. At least Tom will have all the answers it will ever need.TomInTib (1000+ posts)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. It's not permanent.
I saw some pictures of her today and it is very obvious that she is doing either opiates or some derivatives or synthetics.
But, then again, blue-gray eyes such as hers are usually sensitive to sunlight.
But I would bet the farm that she is having a problem.
By the way, I actually like Cindy McCain more than I do any of the candidates. But she should come clean, set the record straight.
Here is something I wrote on this last night:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2887458&mesg_id=2887574 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2887458&mesg_id=2887574)
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The linked post he's referring to:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 10:16 PM
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18. As a recovering heroin addict, I say...
Own up, Woman.
Lay it down or go away.
You either did or you did not.
Face it.
Lies have no place in this arena.
Tom
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Add another asset to that resume, TiT...actually, this one I can almost believe.
DesertRat (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #8
30. That's interesting. I've seen that "pinned" look before
What types of drugs can cause this?
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Enquiring minds want to know!
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. Any opiates or derivatives thereof
Heroin, Morphine, Percoset, Vicodin, Codeine, Oxy,...
You name it.
The poor woman has a serious habit.
Trust me, I can spot one a mile away...
Tom
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Riiiiight!
Cindie
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Google cache of post by Eric Taylor's manager calling TiT on his plagiarizing.
(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:gbwsWMoAm_kJ:www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_mesg%26forum%3D389%26topic_id%3D3237898%26mesg_id%3D3242879+TomInTib+site:democraticunderground.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=117&gl=us)
BlueRubyMusic (1 posts) Sun May-04-08 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. This is an Eric Taylor song, Tom
Hi Tom,
My name is Susan, I manage Eric Taylor and Blue Ruby Music & Records.
The song you're calling "Whose God" and claiming to have written is, in actual fact, a song written by my artist Eric Taylor. The real title is "Your God" and is on his Scuffletown CD, released in 2001. We own the copyright and all publishing rights to "Your God" and Scuffletown.
You must own the Scuffletown CD, since we have the lyrics printed in the CD booklet. For those of you on this forum who'd like to hear a 1-minute MP3 of the song, please go to our Blue Ruby Music web site - www.bluerubymusic.com - and go to the "Listen" page. "Your God" is track #8 on the Scuffletown CD.
Tom, I realize that "Your God" is a great song. For legal, ethical, moral, business and personal reasons, I urge you to cease from plagiarizing and attempting to take credit for Eric Taylor's copywritten and legally protected work.
Sincerely,
Susan
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Tom's a "Recovering" Heroin Addict
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Feb-18-08 10:16 PM
Response to Original message
18. As a recovering heroin addict, I say...
Own up, Woman.
Lay it down or go away.
You either did or you did not.
Face it.
Lies have no place in this arena.
Tom
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2892859
Who's also into the cocaine ..
Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-13-07 07:38 PM
Original message
How many people at DU have tried cocaine in their past?
I'm curious how common it is.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-13-07 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
25. "Tried"? Hell, I dedicated more than ten years of my life...
to that crap.
Favorite bumpersticker from back then:
My Other Car is Up My Nose
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2465324
Is also a drug addicted alcoholic.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Dec-19-06 10:09 PM
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12. I think you may be a little overly sensitive, ruggerson
Rather than taking a "You looking at me?" overview, maybe you should just stretch and look at some things objectively.
It's not as if it were aimed at you.
You are who you are.
And I am who I am.
I am a pretty hopeless alcoholic and drug addict. I have no plans to change. Only death will accomplish any change.
But I don't get pissed when I read negative (or satiric) shit about drunks and junkies.
And I have been living with this for 40 years.
Take it easy, sometimes, ruggerson. You will be much more content and happy.
It ain't about you.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3022914
Tom
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-19-06 01:57 AM
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10. Where is my category (2+ bottles of wine)?
And some of Humboldt's finest.
What a wussy poll.
Give some credit to us serious drinkers.
And **** my liver.
Thru a string of events, I was left with about 33% liver function back in the early 70s.
I just said **** it and have danced on the edge of the feather ever since.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-02-08 07:44 PM
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8. I was in a pot-legal zone last night.
At the Fillmore in San Francisco.
There was so much smoke in the air that I took out my contacts and dropped them on the floor.
And I have been smoking, every day, for 45 years.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1976043
Soooo, Tom's a Former Heroin Addict , Crackhead dopesmoking alcoholic. No wonder he's delusional.
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Wow. So he's apparently strong enough to hobknob with all of these famous people, run around his town at society functions all while stimultaniously addicted to multiple drugs/alcohol? And make music? Do the lies ever stop?
I'm just waiting for him to say that all of the Chuck Norris jokes are really based on him. :whatever:
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Wow. So he's apparently strong enough to hobknob with all of these famous people, run around his town at society functions all while stimultaniously addicted to multiple drugs/alcohol? And make music? Do the lies ever stop?
I'm just waiting for him to say that all of the Chuck Norris jokes are really based on him. :whatever:
Close. The truth is that Chuck Norris is based on TiT.
Chuck Norris wears TiT pajamas.
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And TiT jumped out of the bushes and tasered...himself!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=145x9618 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=145x9618)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-19-07 07:47 PM
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3. 160 seconds? Damn, I got tased once (self-inflicted)...
Just one hit bounced me off a barstool and I wet my pants.
160 seconds would raise some real heck with you.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-19-07 07:57 PM
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8. True story.
Definitely rates in my 100 Dumbest Stunts I Have Ever Pulled list.
My uncle was a Detective in Houston and brought a Taser home so I could see it.
"Aww, come on. It can't be that bad. Watch this."
Best part is, I have a video of it.
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Cindie
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TiT, the big game hunter...
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-02-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. If the guy carried a slingshot into the zoo...
Well...
**** him.
I have been around large animals all my life, and I have seen pencil-dicks such as that idiot asshole do some incredibly stupid things to try to feel equal to a much finer being.
If I witnessed some dickhead firing a slingshot-driven projectile into a large animal cage, I would gladly remove said dickhead from the Potential Gene Pool myself.
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You could cut the irony with a chain saw.
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-02-08 10:13 PM
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11. Yeah, and if he carried a tazer, **** him too? Rumors, reported by NYPost
Personally I'd make sure he got arrested, not kill him myself, but then I'm am uppity librul.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-02-08 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. You know how much I think of you....
but I am right here, on the Bay.
I have been following this from Moment One.
Those guys were useless ****ing punks.
****ing around at the Zoo on Christmas Day.
I have seen way to much of this shit in my life.
Check your inbox.
T
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Generator (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-02-08 10:49 PM
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18. Derrick Jensen is that you?
Though on this we do agree. AS IF the cretins were the tigers and not the homo sapians. (Note to the P.C. police that is NOT a gay slur)
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-02-08 11:50 PM
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21. Who the hell is Derrick Jensen?
I grew up around large animals who were constantly harrassed by drunken idiots.
And I have no patience or mercy when it comes to those kinds of folks.
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His parents were carnies? At least that would explain the large animals and no school.
Cindie
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Back in the saddle again...
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #89
90. Back at'cha.
I should have called you.
Geoff Muldaur just put on a jaw-dropping show at Schoenberg's for about 20 people.
I could have got y'all in.
Tom
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:39 PM
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92. was his oh-so-charming ex there?
and yes, i would have enjoyed it. next time!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:49 PM
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98. No Maria.
Heck, even I am back in the studio.
Gotta bunch of new dreck.
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Cindie
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This one has it all...brush with greatness (John Lennon), legal hassles, military service, being loaded, and the softer side of TiT...
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-08-06 11:34 PM
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John Lennon and me
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Every year about this time I am reminded of this...
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The time was in the early '70s and I was in Houston at the Federal Building on San Jacinto to appear in some sort of trial. I cannot remember the exact circumstance, but I am sure it was related to my service in the Military. I seemed to be, at the time, in a perpetual State of Trouble.
So I am sitting, wasted, in a chair in the hall outside of this courtroom waiting to go in and testify about whatever it was when this really familiar looking guy comes out of an adjoining courtroom. He sat down in the chair next to me and asked if I had a smoke, seems as if his wife had his in her purse. Told me he was attending a custody trial (Yoko and her ex were fighting about their daughter) and it was driving him crazy. And we shared some hazy conversation
That's when I realized that he was John Lennon.
So I gave him a Kool and we sat there smoking (one could do that back in those days) as the media horde came blitzing down the hallway.
The tv people came up, all kinds of light and confusion, shouting all manner of crap and Lennon said, "Can't you see I am having a conversation with my good friend Tom?", and he waved them off.
They all went away and we sat there and talked for quite some time.
I remember standing at the counter at Hank Wagner's hardware store in Houston many years later when the word came over the radio that Lennon had been killed.
I stood there with tears running down my face.
I was a hard guy in a soft place.
Tom
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Well, the timeline was right...the trial ended in 1971 but I thought TiT was still in country. Oh well.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-09-06 01:35 AM
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19. I was at my grandparents' house in Houstom
When I saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show.
Thank the hell heavens, because we did not have teevee at our house.
I saw those guys singing and all of that sceaming and decided that I would never again cut my hair.
And the rest is...
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Severe upbringing, fundy parents but they're going to let him grow his hair long...sure.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-09-06 11:08 PM
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28. Interesting link.. Harlan Crow...
In the Summer of '03, I was at a party at Harlan's house in Turtle Creek (Dallas).
Harlan was drunk and bragging about buying that statue of Hussein that was toppled in that bs staged square deal.
Saying he was going to put it in his sculpture garden once Iraq "cooled down".
I told him Iraq was never going to cool down.
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Not just actors, talk show hosts and singers but also real estate magnets...he does get around.
Cindie
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During this time when SO many are suffering...let me again remind everyone what an EXCLUSIVE area I live in...oh, and I'm suffering too.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri May-16-08 09:52 PM
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1. That's what it's down to, marmar.
Even tho I live in one of the wealthiest ZIPs in the country (94920), I have recently begun enjoying the luxury of Public Transportation for a variety of reasons.
Things are really tough out there.
Folks dancing on the edge of the feather.
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Cindie
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Tough guy Tom and the other special forces are ready to take on Blackwater...
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-27-07 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Oh, we have.
My community is loaded with ex-Special Forces personnel.
We have been talking about this quite a lot lately.
If they ever show up here, they will all die.
We are, at the least, as well armed and we know the hills.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-27-07 08:28 PM
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40. In this case, never is forever.
It all started when a bunch of us were talking about all of our locals being worked up about earthquake preparedness.
Somebody said, "Hell, I'm more worried about Blackwater".
That's when we started planning.
You would not believe the lengths to which we have gone.
We are as serious as Death.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-28-07 01:32 AM
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47. What is "Jedi"?
What the heck is "Jedi"?
I have been out of everything for a long, long time.
Jedi?
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Oh now, this is seriously funny...how can he possibly not know what a Jedi is? They've only been part of our culture for 30 years.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-28-07 02:58 AM
Response to Reply #54
57. Oh, movies....
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 02:59 AM by TomInTib
The last movie I paid any attention to was "Minnie and Moskowitz" (or something to that effect).
Took my sons to see "Roger Rabbit", "Dick Tracy", something like that.
I don't know much about any movies.
Just what I see on the teevee.
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Wait...I thought he never watched tv?
Cindie
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TiT, the Forrest Gump of DU.
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Tom "remembers his vietnam days"
Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Thu Nov-16-06 10:23 PM
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I remember the last time I almost went to Viet Nam,
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those were some good times. I also almost flew some jets.
Monkeyman (1000+ posts) Journal Thu Nov-16-06 10:28 PM
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3. I remember almost losing my leg in Vietnam
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 10:29 PM by Monkeyman
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-16-06 10:38 PM
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5. In my case, it was my life.
And I don't appreciate any ****in jokes about it.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-17-06 12:01 AM
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9. I remember 68 of my buddies....
Done.
Lost forever.
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Klukie (984 posts) Journal Sun Mar-26-06 12:56 PM
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A question for those who served during Vietnam.
I am curious to know how other branches of the miltary were viewed by those who served in the army or navy? Also, how big of a role did other branches play in this conflict? Thanks for any insight.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 01:13 PM
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8. Yeah, no kidding. What used to really piss me off was B52s
I did river patrol up north on the Qua Viet with 2nd Marine.
Those planes would come over on bombing mission and give the (I don't believe I can use that term here) "bad guys" cover in the craters.
On long-range recon, we would follow a carpet-bombing run so closely that the craters would still be smoking. Those guys would be shooting at us from the craters.
Man, I hated that crap.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 01:31 PM
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17. You had to be there to even begin to grasp the power of those
bombs. I can just see you in a bunk skating across the floor. Funny how we can still laugh about that.
I remember the ground shaking so hard it felt like an earthquake. My first experience with that crap was absolutely terrifying. Because of the rolling thunder, I just knew they were hitting much closer than we thought and that we would surely die. I was such a NFG it is a wonder I ddn't start squealing like a girl. Within a few weeks, I could walk right up the tail while they were hitting out in front of us and not even think about the bombs.
God, I am glad I'm not doing that stuff anymore.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 02:06 PM
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26. Here's mine..
Even though I grew up on a ranch in Texas, I have always had a fear of scorpions. Well, you know how big they were over there..
I was a pilot on a PBR and my first day I was being "briefed" (I thought so, anyway. They were just jerking me around) by the guy I was replacing. We were standing on the bow of the boat and he was going on about shit that was just scaring the piss out of me. But I was earnest and he could tell, so he finally got down to telling me the real stuff.
He was in the middle of how important it was to remain part of the situation, not worry about myself too much, but to think of the team in the present environment, and - most of all - to keep my shit together and never overreact.
That was when a scorpion about 10 inches long ran across my left foot.
I actually screamed right out loud and jumped over the side into the river.
Hit my head on the camel (bumper between boat and dock) and knocked my stupid ass out cold.
Talk about a great first impression.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 01:08 PM
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4. I was USN attached to the 2nd Marine
River patrol, long-range recon and target extrication in Vietnam and Laos.
To this day, I never let anyone get away with talking s**t about Marines.
The Navy's role was (except for guys like myself) largely limited to offshore ops (gun line) and, of course, the oft-times heroic work of SEABEES on construction/repair projects.
Most of my exposure to Army personnel consisted of bar fights.
As far as Air Force, I only saw them flying over my head and on R&R and in airports.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 01:21 PM
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13. I volunteered for USN for the reason you stated and spent..
27 months in combat a couple clicks south of the line.
As they say about best-laid plans...
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MassDemm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Wed Dec-12-07 08:14 PM
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Water torture being used by USA personell in the Vietnam war.
I just never saw this picture.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-12-07 08:21 PM
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1. And then there was our favorite...
Picture some poor bastard with his pants around his ankles.
And a team of crazy Americans with a field mouse, a length of aluminum conduit and a Zippo.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-12-07 08:55 PM
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4. True story
When you hear crap such as, "Our government does not torture", remember what you read in my reply.
I had nightmares about that shit for years.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jun-17-06 10:26 PM
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Vietnam era DUers - Remember 'Tiger Cages' and the outrage?
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Remember how the NVA was portrayed as inhuman savages because of the cages?
Special Operations interrogators gave some detainees only bread or crackers and water if they did not cooperate, according to the investigation, by Brig. Gen. Richard P. Formica of the Army. One prisoner was fed only bread and water for 17 days. Other detainees were locked for as many as seven days in cells so small that they could neither stand nor lie down, while interrogators played loud music that disrupted their sleep.
< aside: I spent a month on bread and water, 3 days on and 3 days off, in a Marine Brig. That regimen will absolutely mess with your mind. >
General Formica found that in the third case at a Special Operations outpost, near Tikrit, in April and May 2004, three detainees were held in cells 4 feet high, 4 feet long and 20 inches wide, except to use the bathroom, to be washed or to be interrogated. He concluded that two days in such confinement "would be reasonable; five to seven days would not." Two of the detainees were held for seven days; one for two days, General Formica concluded.
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Now he evidently knows the Eagles and lived by Don Henley...wow.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-25-07 08:56 PM
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5. I knew them when they were still Linda Rondstadt's band.
And opening act, as well.
I also lived right around the corner from Don Henley in Dallas (Bluffview).
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Oh good Christ...rock stars, spies, corporate boardrooms...even Heidi Fleiss didn't get atround this much.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-17-06 04:32 AM
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3. Bullshit, georgie... You know and I know that was the plan all along...
Purvin&Gertz, Houston.
I saw those maps in Blake Eskew's conference room.
As did J A Baker.
As did Harmid Karzai.
As did that asshole Hadley.
Just google 'blake eskew', 'purvin','gertz'
Play around, see what happens.
I am tired of this and I am about to go absolutely Public.
They have planned this all along.
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Does anyone know if TiT went "absolutely public" with this? BTW, wouldn't posting on a public message board kind of do the trick?
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You'd think if he was gonna name-drop about the maker of the damn guitar he'd at least know how to spell the man's name. Oh, and surprise, surprise...another brush with greatness.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Sep-04-06 03:59 PM
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1. I have seen him play that guitar.
And I have had one quite like it. Mine was built by Paul Reid Smith.
It is what we call a "soft" guitar. Basically a 2/3 scale and perfect for fast, choppy and nasty slide work. And next to impossible to keep tuned.
Ry was playing in open D and doing a great job with that fat glass slide. Playing those little guitars is either second nature or you're just not playing. All guitar logic flies right out the window when you are really cruising on a soft guitar.
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Just so you don't embarass yourself again, TiT...it's ReEd not ReId. How pathetic...can't even do a 30 second google to get the man's name right.
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Oh goody, another song!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-21-07 01:42 AM
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1. For Josh...(dead at 14)
You know they come from the water
To run through the trees
They say that all Men are Brothers
But as different as the Seasons
And you can pin wings to my shoulders
And pretend that I could fly
But if your wings are strong enough for enough for two....
I'll think I'll walk with you awhile
Some let the sand slip thru their fingers
Some throw it to the wind
Some let the Mystery linger
And some bring it to an end
And you can pin wings to my shoulders
And pretend that I could fly
But if your wings are strong enough for enough for two....
I'll think I'll walk with you awhile
I'll understand if you can't see me
I'll understand if you can't stay
But if somehow, I could catch your eye
Babe, please don't turn away
'cause you can pin wings to my shoulders
And pretend that I could fly
But if your wings are strong enough for enough for two....
I'll think I'll walk with you awhile
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< aside: I spent a month on bread and water, 3 days on and 3 days off, in a Marine Brig
Just a question for all the military guys here. How would one end up in a Marine brig if one was {supposedly} in the Navy?
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< aside: I spent a month on bread and water, 3 days on and 3 days off, in a Marine Brig
Just a question for all the military guys here. How would one end up in a Marine brig if one was {supposedly} in the Navy?
The Navy still runs the brig at MCAS Miramar and I know that they incarcerate Marines there, I imagine the opposite would be true on bases where the Marines run the brig like MCB Camp Pendleton.
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< aside: I spent a month on bread and water, 3 days on and 3 days off, in a Marine Brig
Just a question for all the military guys here. How would one end up in a Marine brig if one was {supposedly} in the Navy?
JakeStyle's answer sounds entirely reasonable; however, since it is TiT that we're talking about the correct answer is probably: when you're fabricating a story you can put yourself into any brig you desire.
Hell, TiT's probably even done some time in a Klingon brig.
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How many SEALs go to the brig? They're the creme of the crop. Now, if he did it before he became a SEAL I call bullshit as well. Doubt they'd take anyone into a selective service like the SEALs who had been to the damn brig. :whatever:
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If TiT could post the declassified version of his time in a Marine brig it would read something like this:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-21-07 01:42 AM
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1. So (yes, I said so)
I’m threatening John Warner with a shotgun. The Shore Patrol think that disarming me is a good idea. After I take about 4 dozen of them out, they call for re-enforcements. A battalion out of the 9th MEB responds and eventually subdues me. They wouldn’t have taken me if not for the fact that I was tired from being awake for 4014 hours straight doing extractions in North Vietnam, Laos and the Soviet Union around the Arctic Circle.
They transport me to a Marine brig while they contemplate what to do with me. After a brisk nap I decide that I want out, so I disable everyone in the place. Unfortunately, they kept their back-up battalion in-place so they take me down again. They wouldn’t have taken me if not for the fact that the sun was in my eyes.
They call for a helo squadron to support transporting me and take me to a docked SSN. After shackling me with anchor chain they load me into a torpedo tube and head out to sea. I spent about a month locked in that torpedo tube, but that was ok because I had smuggled about a kilo of Thai sticks and a kilo of heroin in with me. During my time in the tube I got hungry and had to eat three of my toes. All of a sudden I feel them pressurize and the next thing I know I’m being fired out of the tube. I was shot onto a deserted island out in the middle of WestPac.
Once ashore, I quickly fabricated a crude sundial and, using my SEAL celestial navigation training, established my latitude and longitude within about 5 feet. I determined I was on a deserted island in French Polynesia. After spending a handful of days writing songs which would eventually bring Bonny Raitt fame and fortune I decided I needed a drink (and I hadn't had real food or fresh water for about 6 weeks). I was only about 2000 miles from Hawaii so I dove in the ocean and started swimming. Three days later I was drunk in Maui. I liked Hawaii so much I bought Molokai Island but I had to give it to my girlfriend when she kicked me out of my house. On the plus side my toes grew back.
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How many SEALs go to the brig? They're the creme of the crop. Now, if he did it before he became a SEAL I call bullshit as well. Doubt they'd take anyone into a selective service like the SEALs who had been to the damn brig. :whatever:
But TominTib is sort of like Steven Seagal and Daryl Hall smooshed together into some sort of sensitive yet lethal killing machine! The SEALS obviously couldn't let him get away, in fact I hear that they even called him back to service to kick some ass in Panama in 1989.
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Tom's such a hero that they will call him up at the ripe old age of 62 :
The_Casual_Observer Donating Member Sun Aug-20-06 01:59 AM
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1. Every reservist I have ever heard of has been called up
for a long tour in the last few years. It's almost guaranteed.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 02:04 AM
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4. Or you can see #3 and take another guess
A bunch of old, creaky guys whose demise wouldn't get a lot of teary-eyed, interviews with his football coach, fiancee', left a lot of young kids interviews.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 02:00 AM
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3. Get ready, the old guys are next.
I was called back in '89 for the Panama deal after being out of service since '72.
And I am eligible until 2012.
I will be 62, then.
izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 07:25 AM
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7. I am sorry but that is to funny. Are you pulling my leg?
I am sure men your age are not fit to fight in 100 degree temp. half way around the world even if your in great shape. At your age one has learned to pace one self. That is not the way to do it.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 12:10 PM
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10. I am not pulling your leg.
Special Forces are eligible for callup until the age of 62.
izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 05:37 PM
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12. My husband said he could have been called up for 10 years.
That was after 20 year and retirement. but I must say he would never have been that old. He would have been done by 47. Going in right after high school makes one very young at retirement. It seems very old for some one to be 62 and be a front line man even if you were in great shape. Years wear on every one.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 12:12 PM
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11. There is a difference
I was/am Special Forces. You're in until the age of 62.
Sucks, don't it?
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 09:26 PM
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Does anybody know much about when Bush I attacked Panama?
What was the flack from that and what really became of it?
benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 09:30 PM
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1. Not much came of it
I don't remember any big fuss. But then the internet was just barely functioning. It was really almost** as stupid as * attacking Iraq. Same situation tin horn dictator we propped up. Then when we wanted someone else in power they went after Noriega militarily. Lots of people wounded and killed. Same stupidity, trying to exert their manhood.
** I say "almost" cause it was relatively short and compared to this debacle fewer lives lost.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 09:33 PM
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2. One thing that came of it was the firestorm of the City of Angels
a slum in Panama City where we used Dresden-like firestorm bombing to annihilate around 100,00 souls in one night.
Oh, yeah, one other thing.
Manuel Noriega is being held in incommunicado solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
Why did we invade?
Noriega said he wasn't worried about the US because "I've got George Bush by the balls".
Do not insult the Carpetbagger He-Men of Connecticut, they NEVER fight fair. They will kill your women and children.
Every time.
dchill (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 09:45 PM
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4. "Carpetbagger He-Men of Connecticut..."
You have made me laugh. Say, you don't like the Bushes, do you? BTW, your brief summary is about all I know about the Panama invasion, and I watched it on my TV. But does your typo (100,00) mean 10,000 or 100,000?
Wasn't Noriega moving drugs through Panama to the US for the CIA? (Or something like that.) That might have made him think he had Bush by the balls.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-26-06 10:24 PM
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11. No, I don't like them...
I know more about those bastards than I want to know.
Yes, I intended to type "one hundred thousand".
Noriega was facilitating the drug trade through Panama.
When we froze cash transfers between the US and Panama, Morgan, Chase, and the other big NY-based banks were drowning in large cash bills. They were renting barns in Upstate NY to store hundred dollar bills. I know this first-hand.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 09:23 PM
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Any combat vets watch Baghdad ER?
What was your take?
I cannot decide whether or not to watch.
After 30+ years, I caught Apocalypse Now the other night.
I had seen it when it came out and it had minimal efect on me. And I was a River Patrol Pilot.
My girlfriend had never seen it and I clicked into it midway through the other night.
I didn't last 5 minutes
MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 09:31 PM
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1. If they can live it, you can watch it. Seriously.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 09:35 PM
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2. Problem is..
I have lived it, too.
I just want to hear from some fellow combat vets that have seen it before it comes on out here (CA).
Because I want to sleep tonight.
MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 09:38 PM
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3. Then you've done your time hon', stay away, you won't sleep
This is not for you, its for the one's who haven't been where you've been. Sleep tight.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 09:56 PM
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7. Thanks for the tip.
After 3 tours of River Patrol, longrange recon (into Laos), and target extraction (which involved a good bit of Close Quarters Combat), I have had a pretty good handle on my emotions over the years.
Lately, though, I have found myself a bit weepy and brittle regarding the current outrage.
Scoody Boo (634 posts) Sun May-21-06 10:22 PM
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12. I watched it.
I jumped into Panama with 3rd Ranger Batallion in 1989. And served in Desert Storm. I did two six month contracts with a security company in Iraq.
I was undecided about whether I was going to watch it until it started. It was a very poignant film. I felt bad for the soldiers. I still see troops with a Sergeant's eye and consider them "my guys."
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 10:34 PM
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13. Thanks, Scoody Boo
I wanted to hear from someone who has been there.
I pulled 3 tours of River Patrol and longrange recon in Vietnam.
12 of us made it back (out of 74).
I do not want those old sounds to rattle around inside my head tonight.
Scoody Boo (634 posts) Mon May-22-06 06:17 PM
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17. I was a brand new Buck Sergeant...
and lost one of my soldiers in Panama. A good kid, even though he was a committed smartass. I held his hand, looked into his eyes and lied to him. Told him it was nothing. Told him we'd be getting lap dances back in Columbus, Georgia before he knew it. To this day, I mourn him.
Watching that Marine, valiantly struggle and fight for his life, and finally succumb to his injuries really got to me. I know exactly what the medics and surgeons rooting for this brave troop pull through were feeling.
I know those surgeons and medics wished that he had died right away if he was going to die anyway. When you watch a soldier fight so hard to live so futilely, you can't help but make a huge emotional investment. It HAS to hurt in the end.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts)Mon May-22-06 06:57 PM
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18. I know just how you felt.
We had to bring guys back for miles on the river. Racing the clock, almost always in vain.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1253279
This is a repeat of the above thread with slightly different results.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 12:49 AM
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Any combat vets here who are gonna watch 'Baghdad ER'?
Edited on Sat May-20-06 01:05 AM by TomInTib
I am going to give it a shot (no pun intended, I just typed it without thinking).
After pulling 3 tours of river patrol in Vietnam, I went with a buddy (sniper, Army) to see Apocalypse Now.
No problem. He thought the movie didn't look like anything he had seen. It pretty well represented what I had been into, except highly stylized and blown out.
A couple of weeks ago, I noticed the movie on the cable guide.
My sweetheart, having never seen it, wanted to watch it.
We got in about halfway.
I lasted less than 5 minutes.
I guess I was hardened and ready, way back then. But I cannot take it today. Guess the bravado of Youth has faded.
But I am going to catch this one.
I suppose we owe it to those taking the hit.
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 12:58 AM
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2. Hi, Tom. I saw the mom of a kid who died on this show. Prior to that,
she never knew how her child died, and she was strangely comforted. She knew he was taken care of to the best of the ability of a hospital in Iraq, he was loved, he was encouraged to live.
If you can bear it, watch it. We have a connection, because I have a b-i-l who is forever affected by VN and will never get over it, ever. He was a tunnel rat for a year, and it ruined him, and continues to influence his life all these years later. PTSD? It happens to many; we won't even realize the secondary problems we're creating.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 01:11 AM
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4. That's it. The mother of that kid.
I was never really afraid of dying, but I lived in abject fear of my Mother hearing that knock at her door.
I knew three tunnel rats. Two of them took their own lives. There was no harder duty pulled than that - ever.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1242267
Panama thread.. "I knows things from my time as a supa sekrit Special Ranger SEAL forces general"
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-27-07 04:40 PM
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So, Noriega was taken down because he knew too much about Iran/Contra?
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I must admit to ignorance surrounding the whole "capturing" of Noriega. I know the cover story was he was funneling drugs but wasn't he in tight w/ol' Col. Ollie? Was Noriega going to let loose with his knowledge of the Iran/Contra affair?
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-27-07 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. It was a hell of a lot more than that.
See #5 below.
I only wish that I could post all that I know about it (straight to prison - or worse - if I do).
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-27-07 04:50 PM
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5. Iran/Contra and cocaine.
Funny, I was there.
God, it seems like another lifetime.
Next time you get to Panama City, check out the huge hotel/casino development on the way in from the airport.
That was where El Chorrillo once stood. A barrio filled with more than 100,000 innocent souls who all perished within a few hours of our firestorming (a la Dresden) the place.
TomInTib Donating Member Fri Jul-27-07 04:58 PM
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13. Hey, Pitt...
see #5.
That was the thing I wanted to "talk" to you about a few months ago when you wanted to interview me about something else (maybe my time spent in military solitary confinement).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1454456
{I'm gonna have to dig deeper into this "solitary confinement" thing. Mayhap there be some more classic TomTalesâ„¢ to be found :-)}
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 02:00 AM
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3. Get ready, the old guys are next.
I was called back in '89 for the Panama deal after being out of service since '72.
And I am eligible until 2012.
I will be 62, then.
More f'n lies. Your selective service contract is 8 years. He didn't retire and him being "Special Forces", yeah right, doesn't change that.
Tom, face it, you're a ****ing liar. You can challenge me on it all you want, but I'm pretty sure I have more time in service and know a shitload more servicemembers than you do, to include real Special Forces. Not one's that played one on the innerwebs.
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Well you learn something new everyday...TiT, it appears, is independently wealthy! How else to explain having a government job (even SEAL Team 3 earns government wages), was an ex-con and currently works at a gift shop, but was able to afford the finest legal representation possible:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5584581 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5584581)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon Dec-12-05 11:05 PM
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5. I, on the other hand, was guilty of every crime I've ever been
charged with.
But I could afford great legal help and got off relatively light every time.
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Cindie
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This is a link to the Eagle's Nest Forum discussion about TiT. I'm bringing the link here because some of the commentary is helpful to understanding how those who HAVE served know TiT is lying about his service.
http://www.usvetdsp.com/eagle/viewtopic.php?p=17126&sid=1c19ab78bfac92b8bd125d0af54afede (http://www.usvetdsp.com/eagle/viewtopic.php?p=17126&sid=1c19ab78bfac92b8bd125d0af54afede)
Cindie
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OK, I was right...he's rich, but got there trough hard work and perserverance. Anyone buy that?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x33124 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x33124)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-25-06 12:47 AM
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5. What would you prefer?
I, personally, detest the word "rich" when used to describe those with money/assets.
It's like we are made of Devil's Food Cake rather than hard work and perserverance.
What is wrong with "wealthy"?
So what would you rather use than "homosexual"?
Just wondering.
Thanks
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Would that be the Marie Antoinette syndrome?
Cindie
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Aug-20-06 02:00 AM
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3. Get ready, the old guys are next.
I was called back in '89 for the Panama deal after being out of service since '72.
And I am eligible until 2012.
I will be 62, then.
More f'n lies. Your selective service contract is 8 years. He didn't retire and him being "Special Forces", yeah right, doesn't change that.
Tom, face it, you're a ****ing liar. You can challenge me on it all you want, but I'm pretty sure I have more time in service and know a shitload more servicemembers than you do, to include real Special Forces. Not one's that played one on the innerwebs.
He was born in 1950, if he spent 8 years in the special forces and left in 1972, that would make him 14 when he joined.
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And again the call up until he's age 62. Does anyone know for how long they can be recalled? Is it longer for Special Forces than regular folk?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x25983 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x25983)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-24-07 10:31 AM
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2. In a sense, we already have such a force. And I am part of it.
As an out-of-sevice Special Ops, I am eligible for callup until the age of 62.
I was sent to Panama in 1989, seventeen years after I left SE Asia.
But I, too, was disturbed by the mention of this "reserve corps" last night. My sweetheart was (as usual) talking over bush and I was not quite sure that I heard what I heard.
Thanks for posting this.
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Cindie
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OK, I was right...he's rich, but got there trough hard work and perserverance. Anyone buy that?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x33124 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x33124)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-25-06 12:47 AM
Response to Original message
5. What would you prefer?
I, personally, detest the word "rich" when used to describe those with money/assets.
It's like we are made of Devil's Food Cake rather than hard work and perserverance.
What is wrong with "wealthy"?
So what would you rather use than "homosexual"?
Just wondering.
Thanks
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Would that be the Marie Antoinette syndrome?
Cindie
I think living in Tiburon allows him to bask in the illusion that he is one of them. If he ever accumulated anything (in his name or girlfriend's) you can just bet it wasn't by legitimate means.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Jul-27-07 04:50 PM
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5. Iran/Contra and cocaine.
Funny, I was there.
God, it seems like another lifetime.
Next time you get to Panama City, check out the huge hotel/casino development on the way in from the airport.
That was where El Chorrillo once stood. A barrio filled with more than 100,000 innocent souls who all perished within a few hours of our firestorming (a la Dresden) the place.
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Hey TiT, El Chorrillo is STILL a barrio and it is NOT located near the airport. El Corrillo is located near the canal and "Bridge of the Americas" on the south side of town. The airport is on the north end of Panama City near Tocumen.
Then again, what do I know. I was just an Air Force Cop working Town Patrol who went through El Chorrillo every single day!
The only thing you had right was that the commendancia was located in El Chorrillo aside from that, pure Bullshit!
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Wow. This guy can't shut up can he??
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Oh my.
It looks to me as if the lying titty primitive shouldn't be posting without an atlas by his side, for consultation.
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Oh my.
It looks to me as if the lying titty primitive shouldn't be posting without an atlas by his side, for consultation.
What he forgot to mention was that those "Innocent Souls" were members of Noriega's Dignity Battalians and that they moved to Chorrillo to act as human shields. They also set fire to their own hooches to slow the advance of US forces towards the Commandancia.
Wait a minute. He might be talking about what was once Albrook AFB. I think they turned it into an airport. Still, El Corrillo is not really near Albrook.
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We killed 100,000 in a few hours? :whatever:
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We killed 100,000 in a few hours?
We killed 100,000 in Panama at all?
Given the small population of Panama in 1989, a hundred thousand would have been a significant chunk, and I'm sure our own American America-bashing news-media would've been all over the story like the Bostonian Drunkard over a keg of beer.
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Well, heck...put this guy on the border...he can spot illegals and junkies!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3198600 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3198600)
So, does TiT consider himself among the nontaxpaying riders?
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I have taken to public transportation for the first time in my life.
Here in the Bay Area we have one of the best public transportation systems in the country, Golden Gate Transit.
It should be re-named the Central American Express.
Often, I am the only non-Hispanic passenger on the bus. And this system is almost completely underwritten with taxpayer money.
The only taxpayer on the bus is the driver.
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Oops...almost gets caught being unPC:
SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 01:03 AM
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46. How do you know that? Does hispanic automatically mean illegal?
I'm hispanic. I ride the bus. I pay taxes. WTF?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 11:58 AM
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64. I grew up along the Texas border.
I can spot an immigrant from a mile away.
Just the same as I can pick out any junkie in a crowd, being a fellow (long-time) heroin addict.
You should know what I mean.
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mac2 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 05:19 PM
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66. I don't know if I could spot an immigrant who is here
illegally except they usually travel in groups.
I could not tell a person on drugs except they seem very restless and wound up. I worked in laboratories doing drug research and analysis most my life but have no clue of many drug people. I can't say I grew up with or had any friends with drug problems. I'm from an older generation.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:25 PM
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71. I may have misspoken.
What I should have said is that I can spot a first-generation Central American with uncanny accuracy.
Anyone who has spent decades in S Texas can do the same.
But junkies, man I am 100%. And I am approaching 60, myself.
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He doesn't just get a lap dance...he gets a Laplander. Amazing how this little tribal girl, who lived such a traditional life, could end up in Tiburon living with a junkie who used to be...oh why bother everyone except the DUmmies know he couldn't possibly be part of the nonexistent SEAL Team 3. Of course, DUmmies just lap up this crap about hearing the stories of iindigenous peoples and the wisdom they could share...sheesh!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3102194#3102269 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3102194#3102269)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 PM
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18. My girlfriend's family lives North of the Circle (Norway)
They are a nomadic family of reindeer herders, living in skin huts and living the same life they have led for countless generations, very traditional. But this is the end of that kind of life.
The stories they tell will make you weep.
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 09:40 PM
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36. Tom - Can you write the stories down & post them?
It is so, so important for us to hear the indigenous people right now.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 10:03 PM
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39. I will try to get Torrild to write some of them.
Problem is, she cannot spell worth a shit.
"Torrild", in Laplander, means Goddess of Thunder. And she is every bit of that.
You would just not believe the history of these people and the hardships that they are suffering. And they are totally unprepared.
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 10:07 PM
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41. She could talk and you could type - or - videotape her telling her stories
and post them on Youtube. The only way that people will take the necessary action is when we feel as if we intimately know the people whose lives are being devastated now. I think it was Gandhi who said that the world will truly be one when we feel the death of a child in India as acutely as we feel the death of a child in our own town - we've got to make the people's of the world more interconnected, quickly!
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And then...crickets.
Cindie
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He doesn't just get a lap dance...he gets a Laplander. Amazing how this little tribal girl, who lived such a traditional life, could end up in Tiburon living with a junkie who used to be...oh why bother everyone except the DUmmies know he couldn't possibly be part of the nonexistent SEAL Team 3. Of course, DUmmies just lap up this crap about hearing the stories of iindigenous peoples and the wisdom they could share...sheesh!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3102194#3102269 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3102194#3102269)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
18. My girlfriend's family lives North of the Circle (Norway)
They are a nomadic family of reindeer herders, living in skin huts and living the same life they have led for countless generations, very traditional. But this is the end of that kind of life.
The stories they tell will make you weep.
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 09:40 PM
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36. Tom - Can you write the stories down & post them?
It is so, so important for us to hear the indigenous people right now.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 10:03 PM
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39. I will try to get Torrild to write some of them.
Problem is, she cannot spell worth a shit.
"Torrild", in Laplander, means Goddess of Thunder. And she is every bit of that.
You would just not believe the history of these people and the hardships that they are suffering. And they are totally unprepared.
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 10:07 PM
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41. She could talk and you could type - or - videotape her telling her stories
and post them on Youtube. The only way that people will take the necessary action is when we feel as if we intimately know the people whose lives are being devastated now. I think it was Gandhi who said that the world will truly be one when we feel the death of a child in India as acutely as we feel the death of a child in our own town - we've got to make the people's of the world more interconnected, quickly!
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And then...crickets.
Cindie
I think the Laplander - no last name only "Torrild" or "Torild" depending on how he feels like spelling it - is supposed to be some sort of famous filmmaker/documentarian, and a Ms. Norway entry to the Miss Universe contest, only nobody's heard of her on those counts, either. Surprise, surprise.
However, this reminds me of another bullshit story he was telling about another gorgeous girlfriend, I think one of the New York friends (and what happened to all that?), who had dinner with some well-known man who was pathetic about being out with a beautiful woman and cried several times? A politician or newscaster? TiT supposedly had the promise of the girlfriend to write out the particulars, and to my knowledge, it never happened. Maybe you can find it.
Finally, he recently bragged on his younger son getting his "first" haircut at age 25. You know, one of the two sons who never allowed to have a social security number while in school and both of whom dropped out of high school with his blessings, apparently in the middle of his alleged lost heroin years. It does make you wonder whether that was the major-league ballplayer son or the percussionist touring with Santana son (you know, the guy who's not on any of Santana's current or past band rosters).
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However, this reminds me of another bullshit story he was telling about another gorgeous girlfriend, I think one of the New York friends (and what happened to all that?), who had dinner with some well-known man who was pathetic about being out with a beautiful woman and cried several times? A politician or newscaster? TiT supposedly had the promise of the girlfriend to write out the particulars, and to my knowledge, it never happened. Maybe you can find it.
It was Michael Savage.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Mar-12-08 09:07 PM
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5. A friend of mine had lunch with Michael Weiner Savage not long ago.
Effing hilarious.
This friend of mine is a stunning (and I do mean stunning) woman and her account of the lunch is simply great.
The guy lives in total fear of his mother, who phones him every few minutes.
And he was a stumbling, bumbling, drooling cretin in the presence of this beautiful woman, my friend. He even told her that he could not believe he was sitting across the table from a woman like that.
She said he was one of the most pathetic creatures she has ever encountered.
I will see if she will type an account of it and I will post it under my name.
Tom
TomInTib Donating Member Wed Mar-12-08 09:21 PM
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8. Oh, she has already agreed.
Edited on Wed Mar-12-08 09:22 PM by TomInTib
And I mean, it is damned funny!
The guy is like some character out of CentCast.
A sniveling, grovelling little shit.
He even told her that he had no courage unless he was behind a microphone. Cried a couple of times.
I will get her to work on this over the weekend.
She is a great writer, to boot. Maybe I will send it to some other sites.
I am glad you posted what you did, or I might have forgotten about it (having only learned about this lunch thing over the last few days).
Hah!!1111!1!!11
Tom
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This Michael Savage celebrity--was this where the lying titty primitive made that one really stupid gaffe, thinking the mother of Michael Savage was still alive, and quoting her, when in fact she's been departed from this world for a while now?
Or am I thinking of the mother of some other celebrity?
If I remember correctly, it was about the same time as this Michael Savage deal.
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This Michael Savage celebrity--was this where the lying titty primitive made that one really stupid gaffe, thinking the mother of Michael Savage was still alive, and quoting her, when in fact she's been departed from this world for a while now?
Or am I thinking of the mother of some other celebrity?
If I remember correctly, it was about the same time as this Michael Savage deal.
Nope, you're thinking correctly. He said he knew someone who had lunch with Savage and said Savage was a weakling and talked to his mother on the phone during the meet. Savage's mother has been dead for a few years now.
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Now it appears he's a world wide wheeler-dealer...but with a conscience. Keep in mind the guy claims to be a junkie but won't do trade shows in Dubai anymore because, well, along with their partners the BFEE & BCCI they're the biggest drug runners of them all (but evidently feel compelled to put the "little guy" in jail for possession).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2891860#2891936 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2891860#2891936)
blm (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 07:06 PM
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8. Dubai - largest shareholder of BCCI - biggest drugrunning, terrorfunding, armsdealing bank
in history.
They pull shit like this for IMAGE - they are a network of the biggest drugrunners in the world - the BFEE and their BCCI agenda that never ended.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-19-08 07:14 PM
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10. Precisely
I have done Trade Shows (very lucrative) there, but a couple of years ago I decided to never go back exactly because of the points you make.
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OK, now we have grew up around cowboys AND his family is into oil...maybe Dallas was written about TiT's family and J.R. Ewing is his first cousin or something. (Oh, they're discussing whether a letter from Jack Overstreet dissing Bush is real). Well, and Platoon was probably about him too.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1020636#1020854 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1020636#1020854)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-25-06 01:38 PM
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33. I'm with you. I have talked to Overstreet and this doesn't sound like him
That said, I hope it is legit.
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Booberry (14 posts) Tue Apr-25-06 01:44 PM
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40. It's authentic.
And where did you meet Overstreet?
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-25-06 01:48 PM
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44. Houston, TX, at the Petroleum Club
the annual Nomads Dinner a few years ago.
My family is big in oil and gas and KBR (Halliburton).
As I said, if this is real the implications are huge. I'll bet Mehlman wet his pants.
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Booberry (14 posts) Tue Apr-25-06 01:43 PM
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38. My mole actually works for Overstreet
And she can attest that this is true. I also have met Overstreet, and although a nice guy in general, but his blinding loyality to the Republican Party has always disgusted me, so I was suprised to get this authentic letter via e-mail, written on Microsoft Word.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-25-06 01:35 PM
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29. If that is legit, it is ominously bad for the 'pubs. I know Overstreet is
the real deal.
If guys like him start opting out the GOP is in serious trouble.
And welcome to DU, Booberry!
I will have to admit, though, I'm slightly (highly) skeptical of the veracity of this letter.
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Now would this be the girlfriend who keeps stealing his identity and posting lies at DU or a new one?
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5566394#5566506 (http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5566394#5566506)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 02:27 PM
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2. My girlfriend's super is ex- Black Panther.
One of the sweetest people I know.
But Girlfriend has known him for 35 years. Says he used to be one scary character.
He spends all of his free time counseling gangstahs.
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 02:29 PM
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5. The Black Panthers were actually a very interesting group, unfairly maligned by the media.
Personally, I think that the Weathermen (later renamed Weather Underground) were a bunch of overprivileged jerks, but the Black Panthers were the real thing. They started their group to protect the poor and disenfranchised in the L.A. neighborhoods. They weren't perfect, no, but they had the right idea.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-18-08 02:44 PM
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17. Yeah.... I can talk to the guy for hours.
He says the reason they adopted the bad-ass persona (he lives in NYC) was to get the attention of young black people, not necessarily to scare Whitey. But the Powers That Be kind of turned the tables on them.
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Now I thought TiT had a business partner (i.e. owned some Asian art shop)...that being the case, why would he need to look for a job in New York? Can one just up and leave one's business obligations on a whim?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=169x7952 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=169x7952)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 03:32 AM
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Give me a few good reasons why I shouldn't move to NYC...
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The Upper West Side, to be more exact.
Right there on Riverside Drive, overlooking Riverside Park and the Hudson. Right across the street from the Children's Museum (now a private residence).
I am moving from the SFBay area (Tiburon) and going for broke.
And I have always wanted to live in the City.
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in search of sanity (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 09:30 AM
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2. None
Welcome. I live just off Riverside Drive in the UWS.
Good luck in finding an apartment!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 12:20 PM
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3. I alreay have one (apartment, that is)
With a parking space to boot.
Looks right out on the river.
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in search of sanity (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 12:29 PM
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4. Oh my, my.
You must be an heir to a fortune. Good luck!
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-30-08 07:45 PM
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5. No, but I know this dancer, you see...
But I am a lucky guy.
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Ho! Hum! Another "someone" he knows that can get him into exclusive places...with the celebrity never end?
aquart (1000+ posts) Tue Feb-05-08 08:22 PM
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13. Ah. Your dancer is the heir to a fortune. That helps so much.
Or runs the ballet company, say, ABT.
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-02-08 07:40 PM
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9. I look forward to same.
I had lunch with fellow DUer Stephanie last week and she was bemoaning the lack of regular meet-ups.
Maybe we can shake that up.
I hope to be there within the month.
And I do not have a job lined up, I am acting on blind faith.
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Checking in on Memorial Day 2006
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1308028#1308168 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1308028#1308168)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Mon May-29-06 01:40 PM
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12. USN '69-72. Pilot,PBR, Qua Viet River, Quang Tri, Dong Ha.
Some longrange recon into Laos attached to Marine SF.
I was foolish enough to go to celestial navigation school. Big mistake.
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Actually, the whole thread is loaded with vets...and some current folks, one of whom (Navy guy) actually seems to believes there's lots of Dems in the military. Well, you learn something new everyday.
Cindie
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Questions for you military folks out there...TiT claims to be a SEAL (I won't go into the Team 3 nonsense...everyone knows by now it didn't even exist during Vietnam). He says he served from 69 to 72. At one point he mentions his instructor for his SEAL extraction team in Coronado in 69. That's all well and good...maybe he was such a kick ass warrior that he went right to SEAL school. It happens. However, he also claims to be a "pilot" (I understand that's the wrong term but don't know what the correct one is) of a PBR. Why would the Navy waste all that time, money, and training only to decide this SEAL should be a "pilot" instead? Wouldn't that also require specialized training? I mean it takes practice just to be able to row a boat efficiently, let alone all the bells and whistles on one of those patrol boats.
He also says he went to celestial navigation school. OK, they were probably still using that back then, though from my research it's more necessary when you aren't somewhere with lots of landmarks...you know, the high seas and stuff. Evidently because of THIS specialized training (Lord knows when he had time for that between SEAL training and PBR pilot training, but I think at this point we're all supposed to believe that were he Helen Keller's teacher instead of Annie Sullivan, he would've yanked out her eyes, put in new corneas he took off some Viet Cong he was in hand to hand combat with, and put them back in Helen's eye sockets, giving her 20/20 vision) he was assigned long range recon missions into Laos with Marine Special Forces. Now, I can see perhaps SEALS working with Marin Recon...there were times when it was advantageous for different branches to work together. But would they just pull a "pilot" off his steering wheel, let the 2nd pilot in charge of waiting for TiT to be called out on a super-secret mission take over until TiT returned? Or would he just steer the whole dang boat, crew, Special Forces, whoever, up the dang river until they reached Laos?
Because you know what really pisses me off? I mean some of his lies are so blatant and downright funny you know you're dealing with a pathological loser whose managed to confuse Tom Clancy, Oliver Stone, Rambo, and Bob Dylan into some super-human identity. Anyway when I put "long range recon into Laos" in Google to find out more about such missions I find pages and pages of MIA/POW's who went missing/were captured, many STILL missing (and families still looking), during these missions. And here's TiT, pretending to be some hero, highly decorated stud who did every fricken job in the Navy except swab the deck (he would've been too good for that) to puff up his own ego. Wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters will go to their graves hoping for an answer they'll never find and TiT cavalierly stomps on their memories. And NO ONE at DU cares! Not Skinner, not the ones who WERE military (they should be the first to call him out). Guess that shows the caliber of people at DU...and these are the people who pretend to care about the military. Sometimes I just don't know what to think of those people. They think they should be in charge but don't have the common decency to chase a blatant liar from their midst. Must be lovely to go through life without morals...you don't have to stand up for things like integrity and truth.
Cindie
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Questions for you military folks out there...TiT claims to be a SEAL (I won't go into the Team 3 nonsense...everyone knows by now it didn't even exist during Vietnam). He says he served from 69 to 72. At one point he mentions his instructor for his SEAL extraction team in Coronado in 69. That's all well and good...maybe he was such a kick ass warrior that he went right to SEAL school. It happens. However, he also claims to be a "pilot" (I understand that's the wrong term but don't know what the correct one is) of a PBR. Why would the Navy waste all that time, money, and training only to decide this SEAL should be a "pilot" instead? Wouldn't that also require specialized training? I mean it takes practice just to be able to row a boat efficiently, let alone all the bells and whistles on one of those patrol boats.
He also says he went to celestial navigation school. OK, they were probably still using that back then, though from my research it's more necessary when you aren't somewhere with lots of landmarks...you know, the high seas and stuff. Evidently because of THIS specialized training (Lord knows when he had time for that between SEAL training and PBR pilot training, but I think at this point we're all supposed to believe that were he Helen Keller's teacher instead of Annie Sullivan, he would've yanked out her eyes, put in new corneas he took off some Viet Cong he was in hand to hand combat with, and put them back in Helen's eye sockets, giving her 20/20 vision) he was assigned long range recon missions into Laos with Marine Special Forces. Now, I can see perhaps SEALS working with Marin Recon...there were times when it was advantageous for different branches to work together. But would they just pull a "pilot" off his steering wheel, let the 2nd pilot in charge of waiting for TiT to be called out on a super-secret mission take over until TiT returned? Or would he just steer the whole dang boat, crew, Special Forces, whoever, up the dang river until they reached Laos?
Because you know what really pisses me off? I mean some of his lies are so blatant and downright funny you know you're dealing with a pathological loser whose managed to confuse Tom Clancy, Oliver Stone, Rambo, and Bob Dylan into some super-human identity. Anyway when I put "long range recon into Laos" in Google to find out more about such missions I find pages and pages of MIA/POW's who went missing/were captured, many STILL missing (and families still looking), during these missions. And here's TiT, pretending to be some hero, highly decorated stud who did every fricken job in the Navy except swab the deck (he would've been too good for that) to puff up his own ego. Wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters will go to their graves hoping for an answer they'll never find and TiT cavalierly stomps on their memories. And NO ONE at DU cares! Not Skinner, not the ones who WERE military (they should be the first to call him out). Guess that shows the caliber of people at DU...and these are the people who pretend to care about the military. Sometimes I just don't know what to think of those people. They think they should be in charge but don't have the common decency to chase a blatant liar from their midst. Must be lovely to go through life without morals...you don't have to stand up for things like integrity and truth.
Cindie
The only person I know of that could answer all of this in a single post is MTBoone from over at CU.
He was a River Rat in the same division (Naval Division NOT Army Division different terminology) that Kerry was.
If anyone could answer all of this for us Mr. Boone could.
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Because you know what really pisses me off? I mean some of his lies are so blatant and downright funny you know you're dealing with a pathological loser whose managed to confuse Tom Clancy, Oliver Stone, Rambo, and Bob Dylan into some super-human identity. Anyway when I put "long range recon into Laos" in Google to find out more about such missions I find pages and pages of MIA/POW's who went missing/were captured, many STILL missing (and families still looking), during these missions. And here's TiT, pretending to be some hero, highly decorated stud who did every fricken job in the Navy except swab the deck (he would've been too good for that) to puff up his own ego. Wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters will go to their graves hoping for an answer they'll never find and TiT cavalierly stomps on their memories. And NO ONE at DU cares! Not Skinner, not the ones who WERE military (they should be the first to call him out). Guess that shows the caliber of people at DU...and these are the people who pretend to care about the military. Sometimes I just don't know what to think of those people. They think they should be in charge but don't have the common decency to chase a blatant liar from their midst. Must be lovely to go through life without morals...you don't have to stand up for things like integrity and truth.
Cindie
Keyboard Rambo pisses off a lot of people, Cindy. Frightens others. That's why more than a few of us having been wishing TiT could be prosecuted under Stolen Valor. The real name/legal name issue has been a roadblock. The man seems not to exist in the incarnations he's claimed under Tom Wright, so his real identity could be unknowable and his names legion. Or it could really be Tom Wright and the rest is the BS. Entertaining that he thinks there's no way to unlock it eventually. He would be just amusing or even pathetic if not for his trying to ride under those false military hero colors.
My apologies for offering no more than brainstorming to this at the moment. I think I am going to try to do the TiT childhood when I have a block of time. If you want more elaboration or want me to try to find these myself, just PM me.
Continuing on from earlier in the thread, the other pieces to the New York adventure were that he was "in love" with this dancer, that he had a "DU sweetheart" there (same person?), and that the apartment "he" had was at Riverside and 107th Street, across from the Children's Museum. There's a Children's Museum, but it's a number of blocks south of that intersection, so I don't know what museum he means. The last time anyone questioned him about the big move at DU, he was saying it was delayed until (this) summer. So what I surmised from the whole thing was that there was a flirtation and a meet-up, but the romance is all in his mind, and the place to live (with the Black Panther super?) is hers and ain't gonna happen. I'm pretty sure I know which DUer it was, too, because he couldn't resist making several coy references about it to her, but I'll spare her the further embarassment.
Business dealings: He's a marketing expert. He's worked extensively in show business, especially the music industry. He's an art expert, especially Asian art. Although it appears he's really a recent transplant to Tiburon from Dallas, he worked in a shop called Giftique there until about 1-1/2 years ago, when he began working in a place called Gallery 108. The actual owner of record of this gallery is a Nina Gerrity (who he says is battling breast? cancer). He also made an oblique claim of being an investor in children's fitness chain (Kid Fit?) which doesn't claim him as a principal, either. He started, organized and ran the Tiburon Art Festival last year single-handedly (tell that to the co-chair and other volunteers). And numerous references to having been present at high-powered meetings around the world.
He's accomplished all of this despite never having attended school a day in his life, having lost a decade or more to a heroin addiction, having smoked weed every day for 40 (or was it 45) years, being an active and supposedly happy alcoholic for decades by his own admission, now drinking three bottles of wine a day without hangover and rarely getting up early, having allegedly served both several years in country during Vietnam and additional service in Panama, plus unspecified years in prison for drug-related offenses (multiple references to being a convicted felon). He also says he was in Canada and did something there that prevents him from going back. I don't know how this relates, if at all, to the estranged Canadian girlfriend Beth, who also can't go back; you know, the one who kept "his" house, car, bank account, and dog, or to whom he "gave" or "left" all of the same, depending upon his mood, so that he could bounce between the abodes of three women, start using public transporation for the first time in his life (only because it's the responsible, trendy, and cool thing to do right now), eat hummus and basmati rice and drink wine, and lose 30 pounds. I'm sure there's a (real) story and a half, right there.
Sorry for the rambling-I'll bring links to my next installment.
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Questions for you military folks out there...TiT claims to be a SEAL (I won't go into the Team 3 nonsense...everyone knows by now it didn't even exist during Vietnam). He says he served from 69 to 72. At one point he mentions his instructor for his SEAL extraction team in Coronado in 69. That's all well and good...maybe he was such a kick ass warrior that he went right to SEAL school. It happens. However, he also claims to be a "pilot" (I understand that's the wrong term but don't know what the correct one is) of a PBR. Why would the Navy waste all that time, money, and training only to decide this SEAL should be a "pilot" instead? Wouldn't that also require specialized training? I mean it takes practice just to be able to row a boat efficiently, let alone all the bells and whistles on one of those patrol boats.
He also says he went to celestial navigation school. OK, they were probably still using that back then, though from my research it's more necessary when you aren't somewhere with lots of landmarks...you know, the high seas and stuff. Evidently because of THIS specialized training (Lord knows when he had time for that between SEAL training and PBR pilot training, but I think at this point we're all supposed to believe that were he Helen Keller's teacher instead of Annie Sullivan, he would've yanked out her eyes, put in new corneas he took off some Viet Cong he was in hand to hand combat with, and put them back in Helen's eye sockets, giving her 20/20 vision) he was assigned long range recon missions into Laos with Marine Special Forces. Now, I can see perhaps SEALS working with Marin Recon...there were times when it was advantageous for different branches to work together. But would they just pull a "pilot" off his steering wheel, let the 2nd pilot in charge of waiting for TiT to be called out on a super-secret mission take over until TiT returned? Or would he just steer the whole dang boat, crew, Special Forces, whoever, up the dang river until they reached Laos?
Because you know what really pisses me off? I mean some of his lies are so blatant and downright funny you know you're dealing with a pathological loser whose managed to confuse Tom Clancy, Oliver Stone, Rambo, and Bob Dylan into some super-human identity. Anyway when I put "long range recon into Laos" in Google to find out more about such missions I find pages and pages of MIA/POW's who went missing/were captured, many STILL missing (and families still looking), during these missions. And here's TiT, pretending to be some hero, highly decorated stud who did every fricken job in the Navy except swab the deck (he would've been too good for that) to puff up his own ego. Wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters will go to their graves hoping for an answer they'll never find and TiT cavalierly stomps on their memories. And NO ONE at DU cares! Not Skinner, not the ones who WERE military (they should be the first to call him out). Guess that shows the caliber of people at DU...and these are the people who pretend to care about the military. Sometimes I just don't know what to think of those people. They think they should be in charge but don't have the common decency to chase a blatant liar from their midst. Must be lovely to go through life without morals...you don't have to stand up for things like integrity and truth.
Cindie
FWIIW, he has been reported to Stolen Valor (everyone knows his real name( -- I haven't heard what happened from that.
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Because you know what really pisses me off? I mean some of his lies are so blatant and downright funny you know you're dealing with a pathological loser whose managed to confuse Tom Clancy, Oliver Stone, Rambo, and Bob Dylan into some super-human identity. Anyway when I put "long range recon into Laos" in Google to find out more about such missions I find pages and pages of MIA/POW's who went missing/were captured, many STILL missing (and families still looking), during these missions. And here's TiT, pretending to be some hero, highly decorated stud who did every fricken job in the Navy except swab the deck (he would've been too good for that) to puff up his own ego. Wives, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters will go to their graves hoping for an answer they'll never find and TiT cavalierly stomps on their memories. And NO ONE at DU cares! Not Skinner, not the ones who WERE military (they should be the first to call him out). Guess that shows the caliber of people at DU...and these are the people who pretend to care about the military. Sometimes I just don't know what to think of those people. They think they should be in charge but don't have the common decency to chase a blatant liar from their midst. Must be lovely to go through life without morals...you don't have to stand up for things like integrity and truth.
Cindie
Keyboard Rambo pisses off a lot of people, Cindy. Frightens others. That's why more than a few of us having been wishing TiT could be prosecuted under Stolen Valor. The real name/legal name issue has been a roadblock. The man seems not to exist in the incarnations he's claimed under Tom Wright, so his real identity could be unknowable and his names legion. Or it could really be Tom Wright and the rest is the BS. Entertaining that he thinks there's no way to unlock it eventually. He would be just amusing or even pathetic if not for his trying to ride under those false military hero colors.
My apologies for offering no more than brainstorming to this at the moment. I think I am going to try to do the TiT childhood when I have a block of time. If you want more elaboration or want me to try to find these myself, just PM me.
Continuing on from earlier in the thread, the other pieces to the New York adventure were that he was "in love" with this dancer, that he had a "DU sweetheart" there (same person?), and that the apartment "he" had was at Riverside and 107th Street, across from the Children's Museum. There's a Children's Museum, but it's a number of blocks south of that intersection, so I don't know what museum he means. The last time anyone questioned him about the big move at DU, he was saying it was delayed until (this) summer. So what I surmised from the whole thing was that there was a flirtation and a meet-up, but the romance is all in his mind, and the place to live (with the Black Panther super?) is hers and ain't gonna happen. I'm pretty sure I know which DUer it was, too, because he couldn't resist making several coy references about it to her, but I'll spare her the further embarassment.
Business dealings: He's a marketing expert. He's worked extensively in show business, especially the music industry. He's an art expert, especially Asian art. Although it appears he's really a recent transplant to Tiburon from Dallas, he worked in a shop called Giftique there until about 1-1/2 years ago, when he began working in a place called Gallery 108. The actual owner of record of this gallery is a Nina Gerrity (who he says is battling breast? cancer). He also made an oblique claim of being an investor in children's fitness chain (Kid Fit?) which doesn't claim him as a principal, either. He started, organized and ran the Tiburon Art Festival last year single-handedly (tell that to the co-chair and other volunteers). And numerous references to having been present at high-powered meetings around the world.
He's accomplished all of this despite never having attended school a day in his life, having lost a decade or more to a heroin addiction, having smoked weed every day for 40 (or was it 45) years, being an active and supposedly happy alcoholic for decades by his own admission, now drinking three bottles of wine a day without hangover and rarely getting up early, having allegedly served both several years in country during Vietnam and additional service in Panama, plus unspecified years in prison for drug-related offenses (multiple references to being a convicted felon). He also says he was in Canada and did something there that prevents him from going back. I don't know how this relates, if at all, to the estranged Canadian girlfriend Beth, who also can't go back; you know, the one who kept "his" house, car, bank account, and dog, or to whom he "gave" or "left" all of the same, depending upon his mood, so that he could bounce between the abodes of three women, start using public transporation for the first time in his life (only because it's the responsible, trendy, and cool thing to do right now), eat hummus and basmati rice and drink wine, and lose 30 pounds. I'm sure there's a (real) story and a half, right there.
Sorry for the rambling-I'll bring links to my next installment.
Good summary -- don't forget to link the Flippy Doo material -- hilarious!
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Good summary -- don't forget to link the Flippy Doo material -- hilarious!
Do you mean this? (And before I post it I want to give a big thumbs up to Delilah and company for all they've done in this thread. It's been excellent.)
And now a FlippyDoo rerun....
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, CCers of all ages, we are proud to bring to you today the fictional spirit guide with no smell whatsoever. Fresh from a deep cover mission in the bushes at the gas station next to Walmart, he's part Irish Setter and part pigeon. He's points out the good and poops on the bad. He's the one, the only, FlippyyyDooooo!!!!
FlippyDoo: Hello everyone. There’s been a lot of talk lately about a certain person. A person who weaves tales of daring-do. He presents himself as a sort of super duper legend. You all know who I’m talking about. Let’s welcome TiT to the stage.
TiT: Hello
FlippyDoo: Why don’t you tell us a little about yourself?
TiT: I grew up dirt poor on a Texas ranch. I never attended one day of school, because we were too poor to drive to town every day. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1845686&mesg_id=1846678")
FlippyDoo: Wow! That’s poor. Tell us about your family.
TiT: I come from a Texas Family who actually makes things happen. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2000817&mesg_id=2002790")
FlippyDoo: Uh, I thought you grew up dirt poor?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Okay then. What about your current family? Any children?
TiT: One of my sons is a professional baseball player and the other travels the planet as a percussionist with Carlos Santana. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=222&topic_id=25112&mesg_id=25173")
FlippyDoo: That’s impressive.
TiT: 10. I allowed my sons to smoke at home. Taught them and their friends to roll real efficient joints, too. My sons have smoked since their teens and are still smoking in their mid-20s. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2137381&mesg_id=2137470")
FlippyDoo: Doesn’t professional baseball have drug testing? If so, the son playing ball might not be smoking any more or atleast can figure on getting into some hot water.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Alrighty. No need to get all upset. It’s like Linda Ellerbee once said: laughter in the face of reality is probably the finest sound there is.
TiT: I am reminded of a time when we were all out to eat in NYC. Molly, Linda Ellerbee, John Stannard (a great percussionist) and me. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=62723&mesg_id=62807")
FlippyDoo: Well, I guess some folks might consider that running with the fast horses.
TiT: We had racehorses and raced them at Vinton. One of the local handicappers was a little black kid around eight years old (seriously). I was standing on a sidewalk in town when the kid came up to me and said,"Mister Tom, WonderWoman in de cafe over dere". And this kid was always as serious as a heart attack.
So I walked in and there she [linda Carter] was, sitting with some woman (I believe it was her agent) and everyone in the place was looking at her. And I just walked up and introduced myself. This was the late 70s and I was into vintage Western shirts and wild-assed boots and my hair was to my waist. Sat down and had lunch with them and invited them to a party at our trainer's house that night. They were making an appearance in Houston the next day.
And she showed up. She had the most beautiful eyes in the world. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=56806&mesg_id=56834")
FlippyDoo: So you’ve hung out with Wonder Woman? That’s quite a song to sing. Speaking of songs, I’ve read that you wrote a song called “Driving Across America”.
TiT: I wrote that while traveling North Texas with my eldest son. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2332642&mesg_id=2332711")
FlippyDoo: Is that so? The only problem with that is that Mark Germino wrote that song.
TiT: Well...I co-wrote that. The premise and most of the body is mine, but a friend supplied most of the really wicked turns. I pretty much half-bake most of my stuff, but I am fortunate enough to know some great "Closers". linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2475135&mesg_id=2475927")
FlippyDoo: I’m surprised that I can’t find anywhere that lists you as co-writer.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Yes, you’ve said that. Let’s see, so far you’ve been acquainted with Linda Ellerbee, Linda Carter, John Stannard (a great percussionist), and Mark Germino. Any other famous folks that we should know about?
TiT: Gary Primich, considered by many to be one of the greatest harmonica players in the world. Damn, damn, damn. God, we used to tear it up. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=210&topic_id=20336&mesg_id=20336")
FlippyDoo: Anyone else?
TiT: I once had the pleasure of pointing an Ithaca 12 gauge pump at John Warner's sternum. And I got away with it. For he was just SecNav and I was me. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=232535&mesg_id=233373")
FlippyDoo: Wait a minute. Do you actually expect us to believe that you did that to the Secretary of the Navy?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Right. So you’re a tough guy? Why would you have contact with the SecNav anyway?
TiT: Qua Viet 68-71. PBR (patrol boat- river) pilot. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3734985&mesg_id=3735423")
FlippyDoo: Oh, so you’re a Vietnam vet?
TiT: SEAL Team 3, here. Extraction Team attached to 3,3 Marine, Quang Tri, '69-'72. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1698598&mesg_id=1705326")
FlippyDoo: Hold on now. You just claimed that you were a PBR pilot from 1968 to 1971. Now you’re all of a sudden claiming that you were a SEAL from 1969 to 1972?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Yeah, I’m sure, but from what I can find there wasn’t even a “SEAL Team 3” in Vietnam. I think you might be a phony.
TiT: I'm so phony that they gave me the Navy Cross to prove it. (shows photo) linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1929685&mesg_id=1930179")
FlippyDoo: You do realize that the photo you’re showing is straight from the Navy website? Why not just show a photo of your actual medal? Also, it would be real easy to check the names of the actual Navy Cross recipients to see if what you say is true.
TiT: I also live under an assumed name. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2000817&mesg_id=2000817")
FlippyDoo: That seems to be quite convenient.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Okay, but I’m beginning to wonder if the bank would stamp it “NSF”. Tell me, do you wear the blue costume with the big “S” on it under you clothes all the time or do you just put it on when you go on a mission? Don’t answer. We just don’t have the time. Thanks for tuning in everyone and have a Merry Christmas.
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Brilliant Hi 5, because I can here!
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Hi5 for Flippy!!
:bow: :bow: :bow:
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TomInTib and the Brig
I noticed TomTheLyingScumâ„¢ make reference to being locked in solitary confinement , in a Marine brig.
Once unfolded it's another tale on the order of the Warner Storyâ„¢
The beginning as best as I can place it http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3858119
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jun-14-05 05:15 PM
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10. Oh man..
I feel your pain.
After 27 months of combat (River Patrol) in SE Asia I was stationed in Pearl Harbor during the early days of Watergate.
During a spirited discussion of same with a superior (Officer) said superior stated "He's my Commander in Chief and I would follow him thru the Gates of Hell if he needed me to". To which I replied that I definitely hoped he got the chance, the sooner the better.
Got 3 days bread and water for that one at the Marine Brig Pearl Harbor.
Then here : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1152886
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed May-10-06 11:37 PM
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13. I was in a Marine brig on a bread-and- water diet 35 years ago
Ate only the crusts and blew their tiny minds.
They sent the Commander around to find out why.
Next chapter : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2868683
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-06-06 01:36 PM
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Jose Padilla and me (reflections on solitary confinement)
Reading all of this recent business about Mr. Padilla has forced me to remember things that I have spent a long time forgetting.
Like Mr. Padilla, I, too, spent a stretch in sensory-deprived solitary confinement thirty-something years ago.
Like Mr. Padilla, I, too, spent my time in a military (Marine) brig.
As is the case with Mr. Padilla, I was held on suspicion alone
It is worse than you could possibly imagine.
I believe it was when I read the part about him having the personality and energy of a piece of furniture that the box in my head cracked open.
I spent every moment of every day in a tiny cell with barely enough room for a rack (bed) and one of those little desks that you might have used in the third grade. The light was always on.
There was this thin mattress that smelled of despair and piss on that rack. The mattress barely covered the S-shaped springs of which the connecting clips had been removed so that one had to contort one’s self, pretzel-like, in order to get any kind of sleep.
The schedule and time of day were impossible to track.
Your mind will do crazy shit to you in an environment such as that. I experienced unbelievably giddy highs – flights of absolute elation - and moments of suicidal depression. One right after the other.
And hallucinations.
I saw everything that was in my memory bank and plenty else. When I would wake, I was never sure if I was really awake or just imagining that I was. I would go days without uttering a sound because I was so afraid that if I vocalized the least little bit that I might just scream myself to death. The few times I was interrogated I spent the first minutes just trying to find my voice and trying to decide if the voices I was hearing were real or imagined.
However, unlike Mr. Padilla, I was on a bread and water regimen. Three days (I believe) of bread and water and three days regular brig fare, alternating.
Ten pieces of white bread and a glass of water, three times (I think) per day.
I ate only the crusts just to **** with them.
I went in standing six feet tall and weighing 180 pounds.
I came out weighing 117 pounds.
But I was still six feet tall.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-06-06 02:05 PM
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6. Thank you
I sometimes cannot believe it was me who went through that.
Kinda like waking to the most awful movie you've ever seen and then realizing that it is really happening. Right now.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-07-06 12:12 AM
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29. Sorry about that
Your reply is infinitely sad.
Damn, what a hard way to go.
Are you OK today? Do you have children?
If so, I am sure (I hope) that your hard road has been softened and that you have applied hard lessons and misfortunes in a good way.
I was a hard guy when that shit happened to me. You were just a kid. And I had no idea that thet stuff was even out there.
Damn.
Tom
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-06-06 07:20 PM
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16. And I left out the part about the "Cold Box"
They placed me in a concrete vault with no light and a floor that was chilled to maybe the mid 40s.
Gave me paper slippers to wear. That is when I learned to sleep in a squatting position. I have no idea how long I was in that place, but it took quite a while for my vision to normalize afterward.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-06-06 09:04 PM
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20. That is why I was not surprised or shocked by Abu Ghraib
If it could happen to me, it will surely happen in spades to our "enemies".
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-06-06 11:23 PM
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27. Yep.
We are capable of horrible stuff when it comes to our fellow man.
Junkyard dogs bite indiscriminately.
It keeps going in this thread in 2006 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1591357 where we get some hint as to what might have caused it.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-08-06 01:52 AM
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1. Reminds me...
Maybe 1972..
I was long-range recon and extraction (northernmost S Vietnam and Laos), went home on convalescent leave.
Went back to Country, brought all the guys up to speed on WaterGate.
Asshole desk jockey Senior Chief said, "That is my Commander in Chief you are talking about. I would follow him thru the Gates of Hell if he needed me."
I replied, "I hope you have the opportunity, and as soon as possible".
Court martial
Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-08-06 03:24 AM
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5. You must've forgotten the "sirs" bracketing the statement...
"Sir, I hope you have the opportunity, and as soon as possible, sir."
That sounds like something my old man would've said, anyway.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-08-06 12:30 PM
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8. Yeah, that was probably what did it.
That bastard later turned up missing on the Qua Viet River.
None of us knew a thing about it. Nothing at all.
I promise.
His original thread is reposted later http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1602976
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-16-07 07:47 PM
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Jose Padilla and Me (reflections on solitary confinement) - repost
I originally posted this Dec 6, 06.
Reading all of this recent business about Mr. Padilla has forced me to remember things that I have spent a long time forgetting.
Like Mr. Padilla, I, too, spent a stretch in sensory-deprived solitary confinement thirty-something years ago.
Like Mr. Padilla, I, too, spent my time in a military (Marine) brig.
As is the case with Mr. Padilla, I was held on suspicion alone
It is worse than you could possibly imagine.
I believe it was when I read the part about him having the personality and energy of a piece of furniture that the box in my head cracked open.
I spent every moment of every day in a tiny cell with barely enough room for a rack (bed) and one of those little desks that you might have used in the third grade. The light was always on.
There was this thin mattress that smelled of despair and piss on that rack. The mattress barely covered the S-shaped springs of which the connecting clips had been removed so that one had to contort one’s self, pretzel-like, in order to get any kind of sleep.
The schedule and time of day were impossible to track.
Your mind will do crazy shit to you in an environment such as that. I experienced unbelievably giddy highs – flights of absolute elation - and moments of suicidal depression. One right after the other.
And hallucinations.
I saw everything that was in my memory bank and plenty else. When I would wake, I was never sure if I was really awake or just imagining that I was. I would go days without uttering a sound because I was so afraid that if I vocalized the least little bit that I might just scream myself to death. The few times I was interrogated I spent the first minutes just trying to find my voice and trying to decide if the voices I was hearing were real or imagined.
However, unlike Mr. Padilla, I was on a bread and water regimen. Three days (I believe) of bread and water and three days regular brig fare, alternating.
Ten pieces of white bread and a glass of water, three times (I think) per day.
I ate only the crusts just to **** with them.
I went in standing six feet tall and weighing 180 pounds.
I came out weighing 117 pounds.
But I was still six feet tall.
(end of OP)
Those experiences have stayed with me for 35 years. I can still feel those flashes of utter hopelessness, disorientation and desperation.
Tom
He also talks about his "time" here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1600449
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-16-07 02:53 PM
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3. How well I know.
I, too, was held in isolation in a Marine brig and interrogated for what seemed like forever by military interrogators.
But I beat the rap. I was accused of a very serious crime (which I will admit, I was guilty) and they knew that I was guilty. But they could not prove it without a confession.
And they didn't get it. I had compartmentalized it and never let it out of the box.
But they almost destroyed my mind.
But I would like to think that I made them crazier.
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this:
I was long-range recon and extraction (northernmost S Vietnam and Laos), went home on convalescent leave.
Went back to Country, brought all the guys up to speed on WaterGate.
******* desk jockey Senior Chief said, "That is my Commander in Chief you are talking about. I would follow him thru the Gates of Hell if he needed me."
doesn't match this:After 27 months of combat (River Patrol) in SE Asia I was stationed in Pearl Harbor during the early days of Watergate.
During a spirited discussion of same with a superior (Officer)
So was it "in Country" or was it at Pearl Harbor????
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So I'm confused. Was he in the (Marine) brig in Vietnam or the (Marine) brig in Hawaii? Or both? Around here, regardless of the branch of service...even Coast Guard...they go to Ft. Lewis which is an Army base because it's the closest.
Cindie
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So I'm confused. Was he in the (Marine) brig in Vietnam or the (Marine) brig in Hawaii? Or both? Around here, regardless of the branch of service...even Coast Guard...they go to Ft. Lewis which is an Army base because it's the closest.
Cindie
It's more confusing than that. What you have there sounds like it could be two totally different events, slightly overlapping and muddled together. His first couple of tellings of it sound like a routine three days in the standard brig (on bread and water-do any of our real vets here think that's likely, unless he compounded his offense once behind bars?), plain and simple. Three days cooling off for a possible minor verbal insubordination, in Pearl Harbor, while on convalescent leave (elsewhere he has said why-he was recuperating from being shot*)? Seems to fit the offense. Seems not to be dripping with psychological angst.
The second scenario goes on endlessly and dramatically. The verbal insurbordination for the same kind of remark to an officer in Vietnam got him court martialed. That the same officer later turned up missing, wink, wink. That he did something horrible and they couldn't prove it. He was interrogated and tortured and fed bread and water, locked into solitary and/or a cooler for countless days and lost 50+ pounds. If he, as he's implying, knew or did something directly relating to the suspicious disappearance of an officer (an officer who got him jailed and/or court martialed, whether in Pearl or Vietnam), this harsher scenario would be less surprising.
How this all fits in with his being both a river patrol boat navigator and part of a SEAL extraction team and the second-most decorated enlisted man in the Navy is anyone's guess. Or how the court martial or the extended serious brig time for WHATEVER major offense he's suggesting makes it likely he was "called back for Panama in '89." (Mind you, this is WITHOUT going into the civilian drug use and felony imprisonment for possession he has variously claimed during the 17-year interim between the end of his claimed active duty in '72 and '89).
*Curiously, he has boasted that he earned the Navy Cross, but not specifically the Purple Heart. And conveniently, he claims to have thrown the whole kaboodle of military awards off the SF bridge.
Before I end this post, I just have to include a link to a fabulous TiT-ism I read the other day. It was about the Cody Morris trial. Morris was the National Guardsman from Kentucky convicted for the “reckless homicide” shooting of his best friend while laying "Do You Trust Me?"
You have to find your perspective on the Morris information (his legal defense said troubled youth, reportedly learning disabled, dropout) through TiT’s avowal of never had attended school a day in his life, of having drowned as a teen (13?) and requiring several years to mentally and physically rehabilitate including reading and writing, and of his claims of being a local hell-raiser with the friends and the booze and the Mary Jane and the girls after that. TiT has quoted some very fluid and ever-changing active service dates, but basically ’69-’72, which would have made him a typical 18-ish going in, if you believe his age is now 58. Assumption: If he ever actually served, he went in with a maximum of a state GED. Now, please completely swallow all beverages and then read his comment on Morris:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun May-25-08 04:11 PM
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6. Poor dumb bastard should have never been allowed into the Army.
Stupid tool like that would never have made it in before they relaxed the standards.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-26-05 05:28 PM
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58. Qua Viet 68-71
PBR (patrol boat- river) pilot.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3734985
Small problem here. There was no crew position on a PBR referred to as a "pilot". The terms for the four-man crew were Boat Captain, Engineman, Gunner's Mate and Seaman. While one of the accepted definitions of pilot is "one who steers a ship", generally in the Navy "pilot" refers to a civilian local who boards a ship and assists in steering it through unfamiliar, hazardous harbors or narrow waterways such as the Panama Canal.
Sometimes the term coxswain is used for someone who is in charge of and steers small motor launches or patrol boats, but I've never heard the term "pilot" used for those positions.
Of course a real brown water sailor like mtboone would know better than a deep water sailor like me, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
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worked up a quick timeline for TiT on the other TiT thread.
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Looks who's number five in search results on Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=tomintib&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1). :-)
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Cindie, here is another idea re: organizing the TiT Chronicles. I came across two recent posts in quick succession that tie in with that classic rant you have reproduced here in a part about "Hey, there, freeper pencil-dicks!" You know, the one where he's being stalked from behind chickenshit monitors? God, what picturesque language.
TiT has always been very concerned about who's watching him and who's ignoring him. Regularly drops aw-shucks references to how many DUmmies must have him on their "ignore" lists by now, fishing for reassurances. This one is very typical:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu May-22-08 06:45 PM
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2. I cannot do it.
I would go even crazier, trying to figure out what I might be missing (but there will probably be a couple hundred DUers who will not be able to read my reply due to their Ignore lists)..
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6081168#6081200
He lives for the attention he gets in DUdville and elsewhere, I think, like a bad little boy pretending to hate it while secretly enjoying the notoriety. Lately, TiT claims he has GIVEN UP THE BOOZE in preference for opiates, and this pharmaceutical change seems to have sent his concern over the edge into the paranoid.
Below, the DUmmies are twittering about cleaning out their “ignore” lists, as if it were a matter of great import to be invited back to the DUmpster Festival.
babylonsister (1000+ posts) Sat May-31-08 11:21 PM
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4. I did the same tonight, but had about 40. No one has pissed me off
yet to make them rejoin my empty list.
A nation that does not take care of its veterans has got no business whatsoever making new ones." Stacy Bannerman
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat May-31-08 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Ohhh, yeahhh????
Well, f**& off, 'sister.
Tom
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
But then an interloper comes along who evidently knows TiT's history.
nomaco-10 (1000+ posts) Sat May-31-08 11:33 PM
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7. drunk posting? n/t
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat May-31-08 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Nah, she'll get it.
Edited on Sat May-31-08 11:37 PM by TomInTib
I've quit drinking.
Opiates are easier on the body (liver).
For a month or two, anyway.
on edit:
Are you stalking me? Should I start drinking again so that I may be a bit sharper?
Tom
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6207143#6210335
It then deteriorates into a love-fest between TiT and Babble On, Sister. She may be one of the few DUmmies who still tolerates him. Apparently, there are others who have become hostile, as TiT sarcastically notes on a poll thread about amnesty for user name changes:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sun Jun-01-08 07:52 PM
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6. Even tho I, for one, have NEVER pissed off any DUer...
I fully agree with this.
Sometimes I just simply cannot believe how angry certain people here can stay at others - tracking them around like crazy people.
I HATED GEORGE BUSH BEFORE IT WAS COOL
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6219295#6219396
Two accusations of stalking/stalkers - on DU? Not Freeper Pencil-Dicks? The world’s just not fair. The Chronicles of TiT needs a chapter about his lifelong suffering of the lack, or the surfeit, of attention. "To Be Or Not To Be (TiT)."
Is anyone laying odds on how long it would take for TiT to betray himself should he opt to change his handle during a DU amnesty? Or would that be too unlike him to disassociate with the celebrity-packed glamor of all the hogwash he's spread around so thickly over the years?
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There's times that i think ole' Tom is just a satire-troll; surely no in reality land would believe a tale like this one :
He's gotta be trying out for Tallest Tale of the decade Award :
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 10:48 PM
Original message
So I was hanging out on Main Street when a billionaire friend stopped by..
She had just gotten off the phone with the White House and she was totally pissed off.
A little background on my friend:
She was born in Persia, educated in Switzerland and England, and is a true Citizen of the World in every regard.
Her family was very much involved with the regime of the Shah and very successful in global commerce.
When Khomeini came to power, everyone in her family fled except for her because her husband (a nuclear physicist) had altered her passport and identification papers and left the country with his secretary.
When my friend got to the airport in Tehran she was immediately arrested and thrown into prison. And there she stayed until her father, who was in Belgium, was able to get in touch with Mehdi Bazargan, the acting Prime Minister.
Bazargan showed up at the prison, demanded her release, took her to the airport and put her on a plane to Paris.
She lost everything she had, tens of millions of dollars.
But she has more than made up for those losses.
So I am sitting at my usual perch on our town's little Main Street. Several of us (and all here would be greatly surprised at the makeup of our little group) meet there daily to solve the problems of the World. Obviously, we aren't doing an adequate job.
Here comes my friend and she is roiling boiling pissed off. I have never seen her angry, she is coolly unflappable.
But the Qana bombings have pushed her over the edge.
She has no dog in the fight, a total realist with incredible insight on Middle Eastern affairs.
So she called the White House. Knowing her like I do, I am sure she spoke to someone in the office of the Prez or Vice. She is not the kind to call a switchboard and has access to people at every level of any government that counts on a global level. Her husband's obit was a full page in the NY Times, if that makes my point any clearer.
I could go on and on, but I won't.
Here is the punch line:
She vowed to dedicate the rest of her life making sure that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Feith, et al, have nothing but misery for the rest of their lives after leaving office. She intends to insure that they will never be able to travel outside the States and she plans on funding a full-court press on the World Stage and Courts.
I have never heard her utter a political statement in all the time I have known her.
And now this.
Also, I have known many powerful, wealthy, and tough people in my life.
Of all of them, she is the last person I would want gunning for my ass.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. It's true, graywarrior
I live in one of the wealthiest communities on the planet.
And I wish I could have gone into more detail.
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 11:59 PM
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16. Are you serious?
I was afraid that when I posted this that I would get some sort of accusatory flame about wealthy people.
But I would have never guessed it would have come from you.
Yeah, I know a lot of wealthy people.
On a regular, daily basis, I doubt that I interact with anyone (except maybe at the grocery store)worth less than a few million dollars.
Does that make me evil?
Tom
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1784245
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-31-06 11:59 PM
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16. Are you serious?
I was afraid that when I posted this that I would get some sort of accusatory flame about wealthy people.
But I would have never guessed it would have come from you.
Yeah, I know a lot of wealthy people.
On a regular, daily basis, I doubt that I interact with anyone (except maybe at the grocery store)worth less than a few million dollars.
Does that make me evil?
Tom
Well, well, perhaps this is a clue to TiT's REAL job...he must be a restroom attendant...you know the guy that hands out scented hand towels...at some swanky Tiberon eatery.
Cindie
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You know, this Monkeyman seems to show up on as many Vietnam threads as TiT does...if he was a real soldier I wonder why he doesn't call TiT on his bullshit.
Cindie
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TomInTib...megawarriorman!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2760458 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2760458)
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Thu Mar-08-07 11:53 PM
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9. Don't even talk like that...
I spent 39 months on PBRs and Nasty Boats.
I am shaking, I am so ****ed up on this.
Good God, who is doing the thinking at DoD?
Didn't they learn anything?
Damn
Tom
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3 YEARS AND 3 MONTHS? One tour? Really? Wow!
Cindie
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Good summary -- don't forget to link the Flippy Doo material -- hilarious!
Do you mean this? (And before I post it I want to give a big thumbs up to Delilah and company for all they've done in this thread. It's been excellent.)
And now a FlippyDoo rerun....
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, CCers of all ages, we are proud to bring to you today the fictional spirit guide with no smell whatsoever. Fresh from a deep cover mission in the bushes at the gas station next to Walmart, he's part Irish Setter and part pigeon. He's points out the good and poops on the bad. He's the one, the only, FlippyyyDooooo!!!!
FlippyDoo: Hello everyone. There’s been a lot of talk lately about a certain person. A person who weaves tales of daring-do. He presents himself as a sort of super duper legend. You all know who I’m talking about. Let’s welcome TiT to the stage.
TiT: Hello
FlippyDoo: Why don’t you tell us a little about yourself?
TiT: I grew up dirt poor on a Texas ranch. I never attended one day of school, because we were too poor to drive to town every day. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1845686&mesg_id=1846678")
FlippyDoo: Wow! That’s poor. Tell us about your family.
TiT: I come from a Texas Family who actually makes things happen. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2000817&mesg_id=2002790")
FlippyDoo: Uh, I thought you grew up dirt poor?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Okay then. What about your current family? Any children?
TiT: One of my sons is a professional baseball player and the other travels the planet as a percussionist with Carlos Santana. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=222&topic_id=25112&mesg_id=25173")
FlippyDoo: That’s impressive.
TiT: 10. I allowed my sons to smoke at home. Taught them and their friends to roll real efficient joints, too. My sons have smoked since their teens and are still smoking in their mid-20s. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2137381&mesg_id=2137470")
FlippyDoo: Doesn’t professional baseball have drug testing? If so, the son playing ball might not be smoking any more or atleast can figure on getting into some hot water.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Alrighty. No need to get all upset. It’s like Linda Ellerbee once said: laughter in the face of reality is probably the finest sound there is.
TiT: I am reminded of a time when we were all out to eat in NYC. Molly, Linda Ellerbee, John Stannard (a great percussionist) and me. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=62723&mesg_id=62807")
FlippyDoo: Well, I guess some folks might consider that running with the fast horses.
TiT: We had racehorses and raced them at Vinton. One of the local handicappers was a little black kid around eight years old (seriously). I was standing on a sidewalk in town when the kid came up to me and said,"Mister Tom, WonderWoman in de cafe over dere". And this kid was always as serious as a heart attack.
So I walked in and there she [linda Carter] was, sitting with some woman (I believe it was her agent) and everyone in the place was looking at her. And I just walked up and introduced myself. This was the late 70s and I was into vintage Western shirts and wild-assed boots and my hair was to my waist. Sat down and had lunch with them and invited them to a party at our trainer's house that night. They were making an appearance in Houston the next day.
And she showed up. She had the most beautiful eyes in the world. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=56806&mesg_id=56834")
FlippyDoo: So you’ve hung out with Wonder Woman? That’s quite a song to sing. Speaking of songs, I’ve read that you wrote a song called “Driving Across America”.
TiT: I wrote that while traveling North Texas with my eldest son. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2332642&mesg_id=2332711")
FlippyDoo: Is that so? The only problem with that is that Mark Germino wrote that song.
TiT: Well...I co-wrote that. The premise and most of the body is mine, but a friend supplied most of the really wicked turns. I pretty much half-bake most of my stuff, but I am fortunate enough to know some great "Closers". linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2475135&mesg_id=2475927")
FlippyDoo: I’m surprised that I can’t find anywhere that lists you as co-writer.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Yes, you’ve said that. Let’s see, so far you’ve been acquainted with Linda Ellerbee, Linda Carter, John Stannard (a great percussionist), and Mark Germino. Any other famous folks that we should know about?
TiT: Gary Primich, considered by many to be one of the greatest harmonica players in the world. Damn, damn, damn. God, we used to tear it up. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=210&topic_id=20336&mesg_id=20336")
FlippyDoo: Anyone else?
TiT: I once had the pleasure of pointing an Ithaca 12 gauge pump at John Warner's sternum. And I got away with it. For he was just SecNav and I was me. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=232535&mesg_id=233373")
FlippyDoo: Wait a minute. Do you actually expect us to believe that you did that to the Secretary of the Navy?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Right. So you’re a tough guy? Why would you have contact with the SecNav anyway?
TiT: Qua Viet 68-71. PBR (patrol boat- river) pilot. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3734985&mesg_id=3735423")
FlippyDoo: Oh, so you’re a Vietnam vet?
TiT: SEAL Team 3, here. Extraction Team attached to 3,3 Marine, Quang Tri, '69-'72. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1698598&mesg_id=1705326")
FlippyDoo: Hold on now. You just claimed that you were a PBR pilot from 1968 to 1971. Now you’re all of a sudden claiming that you were a SEAL from 1969 to 1972?
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Yeah, I’m sure, but from what I can find there wasn’t even a “SEAL Team 3” in Vietnam. I think you might be a phony.
TiT: I'm so phony that they gave me the Navy Cross to prove it. (shows photo) linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1929685&mesg_id=1930179")
FlippyDoo: You do realize that the photo you’re showing is straight from the Navy website? Why not just show a photo of your actual medal? Also, it would be real easy to check the names of the actual Navy Cross recipients to see if what you say is true.
TiT: I also live under an assumed name. linky dink (http://"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2000817&mesg_id=2000817")
FlippyDoo: That seems to be quite convenient.
TiT: You can take anything I say to the Bank.
FlippyDoo: Okay, but I’m beginning to wonder if the bank would stamp it “NSF”. Tell me, do you wear the blue costume with the big “S” on it under you clothes all the time or do you just put it on when you go on a mission? Don’t answer. We just don’t have the time. Thanks for tuning in everyone and have a Merry Christmas.
Thanks, Flippy!
Fabulous stuff and now it is here where it will stay.
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You know, this Monkeyman seems to show up on as many Vietnam threads as TiT does...if he was a real soldier I wonder why he doesn't call TiT on his bullshit.
Cindie
I have heard it said that he was just as big a fraud as TiT. Monkeyman allegedly died of natural causes, pancreatic disease or something similar. I say allegedly because some are skeptical about it, that he just conveniently arranged to disappear in that incarnation from the DUmp. Ask Frank-I think he knows the backstory.
TiT was an admirer of Monkeyman's. You'll find a couple mentions from TiT of missing him; they were apparently BS buddies and shored each other up.
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Anyone see anything wrong with this?
TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Mar-09-07 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. They are crazy...
You might have missed my JFK post...
I recently met a Navy IRR pilot. Been to both Afgh and Iraq.
And he told me that he had a number of friends (Navy and Marine combat pilots, A10, F14, F16s, etc.) who had been called to Ft Lewis for a 2-week course in driving convoy trucks. The fools at DoD thought that they wouldn't have as much problems if the drivers were a little bit quicker.
These are the same kind of bastards that barely let some of us survive.
And I am pissed off.
You cannot run those boats against current armament.
Those guys are ****ed unless they just pick the fat part of the river.
And there ain't anything happening there.
????
By the way, MonkeyMan AKA Dale Peters, IS a ****ing poser.
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(Navy and Marine combat pilots, A10, F14, F16s, etc.)
I thought only the USAF flew F16s for combat.
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Well, not being entirely knowing in these things but it could be that neither the Navy or Marines operate any of those aircraft (save the -14 which was retired in late 2006)
Could it be that most of the convoy driving is contracted out, or that there's a shortage of pilots as is and the last place they'd be is on a truck convoy, or that driving aircraft is an officers job, whereby driving a truck is more like an enlisted occupation?
This last part confuses me..
You cannot run those boats against current armament.
Those guys are ****ed unless they just pick the fat part of the river.
I thought we were talking about truck convoys not boat patrols.
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(Navy and Marine combat pilots, A10, F14, F16s, etc.)
I thought only the USAF flew F16s for combat.
...and A-10s. That's one problem with his bullshit. :-)
Anyone else?
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There's so much wrong with that post I could have picked it apart when I was 7 years old.
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(Navy and Marine combat pilots, A10, F14, F16s, etc.)
I thought only the USAF flew F16s for combat.
Only the USAF can lay claim to stick time in F-16's and A-10's....and the F-14's last combat mission was flown by an aircraft in VF 213 (Blacklions) in early 2006.
Sorry TiT you posing piece of :censored: you lose again.
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Not sure if you guys found this but :-)TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Yep, nothing like it.
I first smoke opium in Mexico in 1962 (I was twelve years old).
Oh FFS! :rotf:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1990301#1990336 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1990301#1990336)
I stubled across that thread looking for something else... there's more. :jerkit:
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Oh, no...
I used to date Stanley Owsley's niece, Karen.
Red hot and rockin' country girl straight outta Miami (pronounced Mi am ah), Oklahoma.
Her creed was pretty much the same as mine.
"Sure, why not?"
God, I am too old to be able to afford to remember shit like that - makes my blood pressure go up.
TomInTib (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-06-07 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. So this Owsley chick...
after I went away to serve my ****ing country, moved out to Leon's place for a while and then she and this Cherokee Amazon hung around with John Lee Hooker for a few years.
We got back together after I came home, but I was CRRAAAZY about that Cherokee chick and it caused a lot of problems.
And we were all three of us with Bad Problems with the Bad Shit, which causes its own set of problems.
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Figured I should kick this since he's back! :-)
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You know...
Reading back through all these threads makes me wonder something.
Is Nads actually Tom's super sekrit tag along sidekick ?
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You know...
Reading back through all these threads makes me wonder something.
Is Nads actually Tom's super sekrit tag along sidekick ?
They were both Green Berets in SEAL Team 3 in Vietnam. :tongue: O-) :loser: