primitives don't like high-fructose corn syrup

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3939538

Oh my.

nonconformist  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 08:14 PM
Original message

Have you seen these high fructose corn syrup commercials?
   
I saw one the other day and I couldn't believe it. I thought it was a joke at first. This is propaganda at it's finest.

Here is the one I saw on TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEbRxTOyGf0

And another...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVsgXPt564Q

I checked the links; the first involves two suburban mothers, one white, one black, discussing a gallon jug of some sort of flavored drink.  The second involves a woman and a man with strong phallic overtones.

Anyway.

Mz Pip  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 08:19 PM
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1. That stuff is in everything
   
I try to avoid it but it's difficult. I have to read every damn label.

Fortunately I am lucky to live somewhere that has lots of fresh, reasonably priced produce.

Man, it's a big bonfire.

For the record, franksolich has no stance on high-fructose corn syrup; as far as I know, I really don't consume things that have it, or much of it.

enid602  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 08:19 PM
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2. moderation
   
Does ´when used in mooderation´ include drinking 62-oz fountain drinks from 7-11?

One suspects some of the biggest consumers of 62-ounce sodas are primitives.

And the lying titty primitive, who has an opinion about everything:

TomInTib  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 08:19 PM
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3. Surreal....
   
We won't be seeing those ads here.

Our little Town was the first in the US to ban TransFats in the restaurants and plastic bags in our grocery stores (they charge for paper bags, too).

Hmmm.  The primitive down there in Florida, who in 2008 finally got around to revealing her shocking eye-witness account of cops scaring black people away from the polls in November 2000:

Lorien  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-07-08 01:55 AM
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33. When I cut it out of my diet my hypoglycemia went away
   
I wonder how many cases of diabetes are due to HFCS?

And then the Fat Che in the punchbowl shows up:

qwlauren35  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 08:53 PM
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13. Um... so, what makes it worse than sugar?
   
Just asking.

After all, I have no doubt that Southern Illinois produces corn syrup... and ethanol. Corn is an American staple, unlike sugar, which is imported.

I'm not going to even suggest that we need to be adding ANY sweeteners to most of our daily foods. But I honestly don't know how to rank sugar, vs. beet juice, vs. corn syrup vs. maple syrup, vs. molasses, vs. pear and grape juice. They are all natural sweeteners which have been processed in some way before we eat them.

Instead of being annoyed about sugar vs. corn syrup in beverages, why not just remind people that they SHOULD be drinking WATER?

And then the sparkling husband primitive, whose wife makes him use the bathroom in the basement:

Husb2Sparkly  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-06-08 09:14 PM
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16. Why do all big bibniss bad guy commercials use folksy country music?
   
Don't answer. I know why.

It's a long thread, and there's a brief argument about biofuels, too.

[franksolich]

Though I'm not a big drinker of sodas, I do find soda made with real sugar to taste better than soda with high fructose corn syrup.  Right before Christmas, if you look real hard, you can find Kosher Coca-Cola.  Being Kosher it is made with the ORIGINAL recipe, using sugar instead of Karo.  Tastes much better.  I always buy a bunch of it when it comes out.

You know, that's really odd.

When I lived in Omaha, I bought kosher products all the time; looked for them specifically.

And I'm not even Jewish.....that is, unless I were like the faux cowboy bird-smacking stoned red-faced  primitive, who fancies himself a "Native American," and claimed the one-eighth of myself of Judaic derivation makes me Jewish.

I have no idea why I looked for the "kosher" label; probably some perception, or misperception, that it's healthier than non-kosher food, for whatever it's worth.

[miskie]

I have to admit, I preferred Coke when it had sugar in it instead of HFCS. Around Passover, it is possible to get a hold of the original sugarcane based formula at Kosher retailers.  Its expensive but fricken awesome. I also hear that it can be found as a Mexican import, but Ive never looked seriously at a Mexican source so I can't confirm.

[miskie]

Though I'm not a big drinker of sodas, I do find soda made with real sugar to taste better than soda with high fructose corn syrup.  Right before Christmas, if you look real hard, you can find Kosher Coca-Cola.  Being Kosher it is made with the ORIGINAL recipe, using sugar instead of Karo.  Tastes much better.  I always buy a bunch of it when it comes out.

You know, that's really odd.

When I lived in Omaha, I bought kosher products all the time; looked for them specifically.

And I'm not even Jewish.....that is, unless I were like the faux cowboy bird-smacking stoned red-faced  primitive, who fancies himself a "Native American," and claimed the one-eighth of myself of Judaic derivation makes me Jewish.

I have no idea why I looked for the "kosher" label; probably some perception, or misperception, that it's healthier than non-kosher food, for whatever it's worth.

Im not Jewish either (Roman Catholic) but I usually buy Kosher if its an option. It seems because of the religious law involved in food preparation, the quality of Kosher is so much better.

[Carl]

I eat things that I like....someday I am likely to die.

So be it.

[Chris]

I have to admit, I preferred Coke when it had sugar in it instead of HFCS. Around Passover, it is possible to get a hold of the original sugarcane based formula at Kosher retailers.  Its expensive but fricken awesome. I also hear that it can be found as a Mexican import, but Ive never looked seriously at a Mexican source so I can't confirm.

I picked up a Mexican-imported six pack of Coca Cola (in the original glass bottles) in one of the mercados down the street.  They were using HFCS as well.  I haven't heard about the 'kosher' Coke.

[franksolich]

Im not Jewish either (Roman Catholic) but I usually buy Kosher if its an option. It seems because of the religious law involved in food preparation, the quality of Kosher is so much better.

You know, sir, that's very interesting.

Myself being Roman Catholic, I sort of wonder if perhaps I subconsciously favor kosher food because of that religious law, even if Judaic.  There's just something about food that makes it taste better, if one is first grateful to God for it; if it's first been "blessed" or something.

[Chris_]

62 ounces? Good grief, I'd be in the bathroom for half an hour if I drank that. I just get a 22 and make it last for an hour.

[miskie]

You know, sir, that's very interesting.

Myself being Roman Catholic, I sort of wonder if perhaps I subconsciously favor kosher food because of that religious law, even if Judaic.  There's just something about food that makes it taste better, if one is first grateful to God for it; if it's first been "blessed" or something.

My understanding is that its less to do with prayer and blessings and more to do with specific rules for preperation, Specifically cleanliness and cross contamination of different food types (dairy meat and grains IIRC). Certain types of animals may not be eaten (Pigs, shellfish etc) and animals that are edible must be completely drained of blood, and regardless of the animal, certain parts may never be eaten.

Fruits and veggies must be totally insect and decay free.

*This is based on recollection, therefore I may not be totally right on this summation - Im sure Kosher food preparation rules may be found on the web.

why its better :

an example - Non kosher meat preperation leads to such things as 'mechanically seperated' meat products. Slim-Jims and other spiced meat snacks come to mind. 'Mechanical separation' is a euphemism. The short version is they take the meat whole and push it through a sieve. what comes out the other end is edible and what doesn't (bone, skin, etc) is discarded. the mashed meat is then prepared. Yum Yum.

[jukin]

Though I'm not a big drinker of sodas, I do find soda made with real sugar to taste better than soda with high fructose corn syrup.  Right before Christmas, if you look real hard, you can find Kosher Coca-Cola.  Being Kosher it is made with the ORIGINAL recipe, using sugar instead of Karo.  Tastes much better.  I always buy a bunch of it when it comes out.

BINGO.  We get Mexican Coke in real glass bottles every once in a while at our local market.  No comparison, it tastes like it did in my childhood.

[MrsSmith]

Well, I do know that corn syrup raises blood sugar a little faster than real sugar...which is itself a little faster than fructose, but all are more or less harmful, especially to diabetics.  For some reason, though, chocolate slows the absorbtion of most sugars enough to make in possible for Mr Smith to eat chocolate cake with certain frostings and show no higher blood sugar.  I've even read warnings that diabetics with low blood sugar should NOT eat chocolate to raise it because it works too slow.

I really doubt that corn syrup is "the enemy."  I just think that presweetened stuff is so much more prevalent and cheap than it used to be, so people consume way too much of it.  I know that my grandmother said they very seldom had cakes or cookies, they were almost completely reserved for birthdays and Christmas...and my great-grandparents were considered fairly well-off for their community.  Of course, hard labor was the norm in those days, also...but obesity was very rare.

[EastFacingNorth]

When I was a kid, I didn't like the flavor of maple syrup.  I used to pour Karo corn syrup on my pancakes every Saturday morning.