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Offline Gina

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Woe is me
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:13:10 AM »
Do you think you, a teenaged son, and a 70 yr old elderly dad could live off of $400 a month for food?

Do you think you, a 2 yr old kid could live off of $250 a month for food?

If you were "starving" would you let the following happen?  would you buy a bag of chips or would you try to buy a bag of rice?

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The month wasn't nearly done, but Shalita Harris' food stamps were. After feeding her four kids, she was left by early last week with just 50 cents on her electronic benefits transfer card, which she combined with some loose change to get herself something to eat: a bag of chips.

Harris can attest to that. Her kids -- two boys and two girls, ages 2 to 12 -- go through a loaf of bread a day and four gallons of milk a week, she said. The boys alone can consume $200 worth of food a week.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/apr/29/hunger-risk-real-for-many-area-kids/?partner=popular

I am kind of confused and want to be set straight if I am not thinking correctly.  Sure kids have to have a healthy meal but if you were that poor wouldn't you think you could get by with buying frozen veggies, ramen noodles, crap meat?  I could make $400 go big time for my family of 5 with rice, beans, milk, flour, eggs, etc...you know, basics.

I am hoping someone is going to tell me I am wrong because I am not getting these "woe is me" people and their mentality.  :o


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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 07:23:28 AM »
Well I can see going through 4 gallons of milk, easy (my kids did, and I only have 3).  And possibly the bread.   

But you can buy a 3 lb bag of apples for 3 bucks, and that will go a lot farther, and is healthier than  3 buck bag of chips.

When my budget is tight (and it's getting tighter) chips, "snacky" food (like cookies, or cheezits or whatever), soda (any purchased drinks) are the first thing to go.  Not a difficult concpet, really.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 07:46:59 AM »
It's bullshit, Gina.

No way in hell does a family HAVE to go through 4 gallons of milk a week, or a loaf of bread a day -- store bought bread, that is, and fresh milk.

I remember MANY times drinking reconstituted dry milk (nasty stuff, but I drank it) and it was a fairly common thing for me to bake my own bread.

You're absolutely right in thinking that lesser-quality cuts of meat can be used in stews; beans can be used in lieu of meat; and other dietary adjustments can be made to adjust to one's budget. Ramen noodles are cheap, but that isn't much of a healthy meal due to all the sodium, I would think.

Bottom line is - Ms. welfare momma is simply going to have to dust off the top of her stove and actually USE the f'n thing. Ditto for her oven.

As Flame aptly says, the snacky foods, chips, and empty calories might simply have to go away until Ms. Welfare Momma hits the lottery (because you KNOW she's buying tickets every week).


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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 08:02:48 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on April 30, 2012, 07:46:59 AM


You're absolutely right in thinking that lesser-quality cuts of meat can be used in stews; beans can be used in lieu of meat; and other dietary adjustments can be made to adjust to one's budget. Ramen noodles are cheap, but that isn't much of a healthy meal due to all the sodium, I would think.


Isn't the only thing that has the high sodium is the "sauce"?  One wouldn't have to actually use it. I have had ramen without the sauce and it's fine.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 08:35:36 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 30, 2012, 08:02:48 AM
Isn't the only thing that has the high sodium is the "sauce"?  One wouldn't have to actually use it. I have had ramen without the sauce and it's fine.

I don't know. If I want pasta, I cook pasta. That rahmen stuff ain't pasta to me -- it's student food.  :lmao:
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 08:37:45 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on April 30, 2012, 08:35:36 AM
I don't know. If I want pasta, I cook pasta. That rahmen stuff ain't pasta to me -- it's student food.  :lmao:

Right but it allows one to live so I don't really care about the sodium at this point. :hyper:  What it is is they want to eat like kings when they don't even have the money.  I guaranDAMNtee ya that if they were the one's putting forth their own money to buy their groceries they wouldn't be whining about not having money to eat.  They would budget like the rest of us workers and live within their means but because it's "free" money they want to eat like someone that works and produces the money on their own.  Maybe they should just give you $100 bucks and a packet of seeds and potting soil at the welfare line instead of just $.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 08:38:48 AM »
Lower-grade meat's actually better for stews, it makes the broth much richer because more fats and gelatin boil out of it and into the broth.  And feeding people on those amounts of money, sure, but they won't be getting nearly as many sodas, snacks, and ready-to-eat/heat foods as they would on half-again or twice that much.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 08:40:02 AM »
and..........

Why doesn't the gov't just give out those blocks of cheese, evaporated milk, peanut butter and stuff like they used to?  my grandmother got that stuff because her father was on assistance and living with her.  Is there a reason they don't give that out anymore?    That cheese was like velveeeta and dIIIIEEEElicious  :drool:
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 08:41:48 AM »
I've heard the same thing... that gummint cheese was some of the best stuff you could get. :rotf:
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 08:45:36 AM »
Then again, she can always get off her fat, lazy ass and get a job. Taxpayers already pay for meals at schools for all of her little bastards. Perhaps she shouldn't have had f'n kids. Sorry for being callous, but I don't remember signing on to raise anyone's f'n kids.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 09:18:26 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on April 30, 2012, 08:45:36 AM
Then again, she can always get off her fat, lazy ass and get a job. Taxpayers already pay for meals at schools for all of her little bastards. Perhaps she shouldn't have had f'n kids. Sorry for being callous, but I don't remember signing on to raise anyone's f'n kids.

Not to jerk your chain but I read an article the other day about sending 'back packs' of food home with the little darlings to get them through the weekends.   It did cause me  a WTF moment.  We feed 'em at school then have to send food home for the weekends?   And what pray tell are we doing for vacations?  Has anyone read stories of kids dying of starvation over vacation?

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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 09:28:23 AM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on April 30, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
Not to jerk your chain but I read an article the other day about sending 'back packs' of food home with the little darlings to get them through the weekends.   It did cause me  a WTF moment.  We feed 'em at school then have to send food home for the weekends?  And what pray tell are we doing for vacations?  Has anyone read stories of kids dying of starvation over vacation?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Well, when you want to create slaves, you have to keep them alive to do your bidding. It doesn't benefit Democrats to have all these people being self-sufficient. The Democrats ancestors knew this well. The slaves on the plantations always had food.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2012, 09:36:46 AM »
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2012, 09:41:02 AM »
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2012, 09:53:55 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 30, 2012, 08:37:45 AM
Right but it allows one to live so I don't really care about the sodium at this point. :hyper:  What it is is they want to eat like kings when they don't even have the money.  I guaranDAMNtee ya that if they were the one's putting forth their own money to buy their groceries they wouldn't be whining about not having money to eat.  They would budget like the rest of us workers and live within their means but because it's "free" money they want to eat like someone that works and produces the money on their own.  Maybe they should just give you $100 bucks and a packet of seeds and potting soil at the welfare line instead of just $.

Well, the parrot will eat, the cat will have something to shit in and momma can get some pot.....now what is she supposed to do about the kids?

Yes, they are that damn stupid.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 10:05:44 AM »
Those kids will be producing even more parasites who will create more parasites who will create more parasites and so goes the cycle. This shit will go on until this nation collapses under its own debt weight and I fear that's not far off. Then they'll be looting and pillaging. Won't last in the rural and suburban areas due to gun owners, but you people in the big cities up north are pretty much f'ed.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 10:12:59 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on April 30, 2012, 10:05:44 AM
Those kids will be producing even more parasites who will create more parasites who will create more parasites and so goes the cycle. This shit will go on until this nation collapses under its own debt weight and I fear that's not far off. Then they'll be looting and pillaging. Won't last in the rural and suburban areas due to gun owners, but you people in the big cities up north are pretty much f'ed.

I thought about that last night.  While I was getting dressed this morning I pulled out my .22 from my underwear drawer and made sure it was loaded.  I have guns hidden in the strangest places around my house.    :panic:  I also have knives to.  Someone is going down with me if they kill me  :lmao:
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 10:24:03 AM »
Someone needs to teach her how to budget and meal planning I think it should be a requirement to get assistance.
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2012, 10:38:46 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 30, 2012, 08:40:02 AM
and..........

Why doesn't the gov't just give out those blocks of cheese, evaporated milk, peanut butter and stuff like they used to?  my grandmother got that stuff because her father was on assistance and living with her.  Is there a reason they don't give that out anymore?    That cheese was like velveeeta and dIIIIEEEElicious  :drool:

I'm not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that all that subsidized free food like that, including dried milk powder and stuff-in-a-can is going to all the starving pygmies in Africa.

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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2012, 10:52:54 AM »
Quote from: Gina on April 30, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
I thought about that last night.  While I was getting dressed this morning I pulled out my .22 from my underwear drawer and made sure it was loaded.  I have guns hidden in the strangest places around my house.    :panic:  I also have knives to.  Someone is going down with me if they kill me  :lmao:

FYI.....for the purposes being discussed, a .22 ain't gonna cut it (uness you like "close work"), you need more serious firepower........

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2012, 11:12:33 AM »
Quote from: TVDOC on April 30, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
FYI.....for the purposes being discussed, a .22 ain't gonna cut it (uness you like "close work"), you need more serious firepower........

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FYI I said my underwear drawer.  They don't call it a drawer for your dainties for nothing  :p  I have up to a .50 DE.  I ain't skeered  :whistling:
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2012, 11:16:57 AM »
Some of these people, just need to be bitchslapped.....This one woman came in(mind you , we are not a supercenter, so our food section is somewhat limited) buys about 200.00 from our store(hamburger helper, cereals, none of which have any nutrional value, IMO). Then she goes to Shaws(somewhat expensive, unless you have one of the shoppers savers card), Why doesn't she go to a supercenter and gets everything she needs( there's one 5 miles away?) Coupons and the sales flyers are so helpful, and she could build meals around those???
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Re: Woe is me
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2012, 11:20:23 AM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on April 30, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
Not to jerk your chain but I read an article the other day about sending 'back packs' of food home with the little darlings to get them through the weekends.   It did cause me  a WTF moment.  We feed 'em at school then have to send food home for the weekends?   And what pray tell are we doing for vacations?  Has anyone read stories of kids dying of starvation over vacation?

Inquiring minds want to know.

zeit--I don't know about the weekends, but you know that around here they give the kids subsidized breakfast and lunches, and will feed the little "yutes" during the summer months as well.

I haven't done a whole lot of shopping with Scoobie doing the bulk of it, but I'm pretty damned sure a family of five can eat pretty damned well on $100/week.  And we don't go through anywhere near a loaf of bread a day or a gallon of milk every other day.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2012, 11:23:18 AM »
Quote from: A7X_foREVer on April 30, 2012, 10:24:03 AM
Someone needs to teach her how to budget and meal planning I think it should be a requirement to get assistance.

I've got a better idea.  You want food stamps?  Fine--the only place the EBT card will EVER work is at the local EBT store, where you can get foodstuffs at discounted rates.

Only one catch--no junk food, no sodas, no lobsters, no tenderloin.  BASIC meat (chicken, pork, hamburger, etc.) dairy, bread, and vegetables.  You know, healthy shit.
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2012, 11:42:53 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on April 30, 2012, 11:20:23 AM
zeit--I don't know about the weekends, but you know that around here they give the kids subsidized breakfast and lunches, and will feed the little "yutes" during the summer months as well.

I haven't done a whole lot of shopping with Scoobie doing the bulk of it, but I'm pretty damned sure a family of five can eat pretty damned well on $100/week.  And we don't go through anywhere near a loaf of bread a day or a gallon of milk every other day.

I blow $150 a week at Costco easy just blowing money, but that's fine because I work for it and can spend as I like.  But I buy a huge carton of eggs $10, 5 gallons of milk @ $2.35 each, and 2 loaves of bread for $5.00.

The rest of that money is just fun stuff I buy like clothes, cokes, non-essentials.  So I don't get how one can not make $400 last for a month. 
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