WikiLeaks Ready to Release Giant 'Insurance' File if Shut Down

[Allentownjake]

...yeah and Madison too.    

Hamilton Fan? I'm going to do a jig over Burr doing us all a favor.

[ColonialMarine0431]

You must hate Jefferson.

Jefferson is my favorite of the Founding Fathers. He was a man of many contradictions and he's hard to figure out. He spoke against slavery, yet owned slaves. He hated political parties, but then founded a new party and declared that England's "party division of Whig and Tory is the most wholesome which can exist in any government."

He favored a strict construction of the Constitution and worried about excessive presidential power, yet as President he acquired the Louisiana Territory without prior congressional authorization and ruled it like a monarch.

He championed freedom of the press , but while President he suggested to the governor of Pennsylvania, a fellow Republican, that a few well-chosen prosecutions of Federalist newspapers would have a "wholesome effect in restoring the integrity of the press."

[Allentownjake]

Jefferson is my favorite of the Founding Fathers. He was a man of many contradictions and he's hard to figure out. He spoke against slavery, yet owned slaves. He hated political parties, but then founded a new party and declared that England's "party division of Whig and Tory is the most wholesome which can exist in any government." I think that was a necessity thing, than a justification on why he did it.  The slave issue was more about his neighbors threatening to kidnap his slaves if he freed them, from the apologies I've read on that aspect

He favored a strict construction of the Constitution and worried about excessive presidential power, yet as President he acquired the Louisiana Territory without prior congressional authorization and ruled it like a monarch. Interesting part of American History, due to the situation in Europe, paying the French for that territory was a gesture of good will.  He could have just taken it.

He championed freedom of the press , but while President he suggested to the governor of Pennsylvania, a fellow Republican, that a few well-chosen prosecutions of Federalist newspapers would have a "wholesome effect in restoring the integrity of the press." They probably published something bad about him, as much of a brilliant man as he was, he had a thin skin and never looked at his own actions objectively

[true_blood]

What about executing Bradley Manning? He started it all. He should be exposed to nuclear radiation in a critical mass phase.

Yeah. He does look like a little pile of puke.

[Allentownjake]

Yeah. He does look like a little pile of puke.

The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court.  Depending on the charge.  Firing Squad is a possible punishment.

[true_blood]

The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court.  Depending on the charge.  Firing Squad is a possible suitable punishment.

[rich_t]

The US Government can and possibly should charge PFC Manning with a crime in Military Court.  Depending on the charge.  Firing Squad is a possible punishment.

IIRC the US military no longer uses the firing squad.  But lethal injection is still on the table.

[Allentownjake]

IIRC the US military no longer uses the firing squad.  But lethal injection is still on the table.

Well that is stupid, I hated when they ended hanging as well.

Frankly both are more humane and dignified than putting people to sleep like animals.

[NHSparky]

I would think that some government agency has this file and is already working to break the encryption. 

It's a 256-character password.  Virtually unbreakable.

DoD has been trying since July.

[JohnnyReb]

It's a 256-character password.  Virtually unbreakable.

DoD has been trying since July.

Prime number?....what do I know about codes....ZERO.

So how hard is a 256 character password to break? ....oh about umpteen trillion combo's. times 10 to the umpteenth power.

[NHSparky]

Prime number?....what do I know about codes....ZERO.

So how hard is a 256 character password to break? ....oh about umpteen trillion combo's. times 10 to the umpteenth power.

Letters, numbers, characters, upper and lower case.

Even if only 75 possibilities, raise that to the 256th power.  Just over 1E+480.  That's 1 followed by 480 zeroes.

The Chinese supercomputer currently regarded as the world's fastest can do 2.5 PFLOPS  (FLOPS-Floating Point OPerations Second) P-Peta or 10E+15.  At that rate, it would be able to crack the code...

...in about 1 E+458 YEARS.

By way of comparison, the standard Microsoft key for their equipment (Word, Windows, etc) consists of 25 characters of either letters or numbers (case insensitive).  So, 26 letters and 10 numbers:

36 ^ 25 = 8 E+38.  Divide that by 2E+15, you get 4E+23 seconds, or about 12.7 QUADRILLION years.

[vesta111]

  Ok here, Fox has interviewed dozens of ex-military--retired naturally-- and with some very hard questions all with out exception have had the same reaction.

We have to realise these men will continue to network among their old Buddy's, discuss this problem from dawn to dark trying to understand what is going on.

All in so many words said  "  Frankly, this is unheard of, I have no idea what the government is doing, [WE] are all mind boggled about this, something is going on that is unbelievable."

All this about exposing foreign spy's ---didn't this expose an aid to someone high up in Parliament in England.

I have the idea that these leaks will go easy on the USA, embarrassing but the information just may topple corrupt leaders overseas.  Perhaps some nasty in America will be exposed to the light of day.

What ever the master mind behind this has stated that the information will work for a better world.  One must wonder if this is a man who has decided to change the world for the better.   In his own mind.  

Interesting that our government cannot do anything to stop him,  We knew 6+ months ago this was coming, we had time to either stop it or as we have, show total shock that ONE man could cause this havoc.

One man holding the world hostage--what does this man have 666 behind his Left ear.???

I would myself like to know just what he found that causes all this distress and lamenting and tears around the world.

[Allentownjake]

The Bank of America Hard Drive.

The Governments around the world were not that pissy till he said he was going to release information from that.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Really, everyone who thinks they might have secrets at stake should just accept that the cat is out of the bag at this point, and proceed to consequence management mode as well as retribution on Assange.

The problem with this 'Insurance' strategy is that it is not a two-player game between Assange and one government, there are multiple governments, corporate entities, and powerful individuals involved, all it takes to tip this bucket over is for one of them the calculate that opening the file will probably do a lot more damage to an important rival than it will to that entity itself.  If the entity which reaches that conclusion is given to 'direct' means of problem resolution, he's a dead man.

[NHSparky]

Really, everyone who thinks they might have secrets at stake should just accept that the cat is out of the bag at this point, and proceed to consequence management mode as well as retribution on Assange.

The problem with this 'Insurance' strategy is that it is not a two-player game between Assange and one government, there are multiple governments, corporate entities, and powerful individuals involved, all it takes to tip this bucket over is for one of them the calculate that opening the file will probably do a lot more damage to an important rival than it will to that entity itself.  If the entity which reaches that conclusion is given to 'direct' means of problem resolution, he's a dead man.

Basically, the only fool here is Assagne if he hasn't yet made peace with his dear and fluffy lord.  At some point, someone in a position to do something very nasty to him will have figured out that the damage is done whether the memos are released or not, and about all they can do at that point is extract some measure of retribution.

Bottom line, Assange is a dead man walking at this point, whether he wants to admit it or not.

[dandi]

You must hate Jefferson.

I highly doubt Thomas Jefferson would approve of a foreign national attempting to hold our country hostage while he pranced about the world media, gleefully wagging his finger in all of our faces.  I think that a man who took it upon himself to kick the shit out the Barbary Pirates would hardly seek to let a hostile and hateful press just continue on smartly with the destruction of what he fought so hard to create.

That is unless you have some great information you could enlighten us with?

[Thor]

I wonder if our code breakers have tried the obvious Fibonacci sequence??

[DumbAss Tanker]

The encryption and key would have been digitally generated with an algorithm heavily relieant on randomization algorithms rather than being based on a predictable series.  Crytanalysts would of course have a leg up if they knew what program was used to do it, since digital randomization isn't truly random, but only emulates it, and knowing which algorithms were involved greatly enhances the chance of decryption.  Of course that may decrease it from 10,000 years to 1,000 years...

[Allentownjake]

I highly doubt Thomas Jefferson would approve of a foreign national attempting to hold our country hostage while he pranced about the world media, gleefully wagging his finger in all of our faces.  I think that a man who took it upon himself to kick the shit out the Barbary Pirates would hardly seek to let a hostile and hateful press just continue on smartly with the destruction of what he fought so hard to create.

That is unless you have some great information you could enlighten us with?

The panic now is over the Bank of America Hard Drive.

Most of the state department cables are giant 

Arabs hate Iran as much as Israel 

The State Department uses diplomats to spy 

OMG Americans and British make fun of the French 

Harmard Karzai and his brother are corrupt 

There is nothing revealed thus far that is earth breaking, or anything that any intelligence agency in the world above Kazakistan isn't aware of.

The panic right now is over the hard drive of a major US bank, and my guess information that would make the political class look like what many have suspected they are.

[zeitgeist]

And yet to be useful, someone, somewhere must hold the key.  What is the old story about keeping a secret?  

Three men can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
Benjamin Franklin

I smell waterboarding.

[Allentownjake]

And yet to be useful, someone, somewhere must hold the key.  What is the old story about keeping a secret?  

I smell waterboarding.

I have a feeling the insurance file comes out sooner rather than later.

I also have a feeling it contains nothing but Bank information.

[thundley4]

I have a feeling the insurance file comes out sooner rather than later.

I also have a feeling it contains nothing but Bank information.

It could contain information on who was paid how much by BofA.

[Allentownjake]

It could contain information on who was paid how much by BofA.

Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.

[zeitgeist]

Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.

I have never been a big fan of BOA.  What really sucks is several years ago they took over the bank I have always done business with for checking.  15M line of credit?  Wonder how much they burned through.  Going to be tough fund raising for the dems.  Next thing you know they will all be selling Hillary DVD's out of the back of their Government Caddys at Wal Mat parking lots across the fruited plain.  

[Chris_]

Given that Bank of America gave the DNC a 15 million dollar line of credit this November, I thought you guys would be cheering this.

Allentownjake's idea of bipartisanship:  badmouthing both sides