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Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« on: March 13, 2008, 11:48:36 AM »
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Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper.

Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues.

"I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

"He has impacted the life of Barack Obama so much so that he wants to portray that feeling he got from Rev. Wright onto the country because we all need something positive," said another member of the congregation.

Rev. Wright, who declined to be interviewed by ABC News, is considered one of the country's 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign.

Obama has praised at least one aspect of Rev. Wright's approach, referring to his "social gospel" and his focus on Africa, "and I agree with him on that."

Sen. Obama declined to comment on Rev. Wright's denunciations of the United States, but a campaign religious adviser, Shaun Casey, appearing on "Good Morning America" Thursday, said Obama "had repudiated" those comments.

In a statement to ABCNews.com, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done."
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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 12:07:06 PM »
Memo to Obama--you ARE the company you keep.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 01:27:31 PM »
Rev. Jeremiah Wright is moonbat supreme. Anyways, Japan did not attack us on 9/11. Bad logic.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 01:33:15 PM »
And this guy will end up whispering in President Obama's ear. *SHUDDERS*
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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 03:00:27 PM »
The DUmpmonkeys are in a foaming spittle exchange and pretzel contest over this, and rightfully so.  It is HUGE!!

This could be the beginning of the end of Obamamania.  He has no way out of it.  "Crazy uncle" won't fix this.

Even ABC News ran it.  Wow. 

(Of course, it is a right-wing rethug smear campaign.   ::)  ) 

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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 03:03:28 PM »
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"I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

That more then anything else just simply floored me. :thatsright:
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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2008, 03:05:11 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2008, 03:07:15 PM »
The DUmpmonkeys are in a foaming spittle exchange and pretzel contest over this, and rightfully so.  It is HUGE!!

This could be the beginning of the end of Obamamania.  He has no way out of it.  "Crazy uncle" won't fix this.

Even ABC News ran it.  Wow. 

(Of course, it is a right-wing rethug smear campaign.   ::)  ) 

We all had a crazy uncle like that until the end of last year.  But, like good Americans, we distanced ourselves from the craziness.  That's why we're here now.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 03:10:36 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

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It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 03:11:52 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 03:20:40 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?

White, black, red, yellow, brown...no one stands up and tells God to damn America and gets away with it.  The population of this country is made up of only 13% black folks.  I'd say 75% of the black folks are offended by this.  I know 100% of normal people of all colors are offended by this.  I know I am outraged.

This is ugly.  Obama needs to drop out now.

(BTW, is that church tax exempt?  It seems too political to be allowed tax exempt status)       

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 03:57:39 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?

White, black, red, yellow, brown...no one stands up and tells God to damn America and gets away with it.  The population of this country is made up of only 13% black folks.  I'd say 75% of the black folks are offended by this.  I know 100% of normal people of all colors are offended by this.  I know I am outraged.

This is ugly.  Obama needs to drop out now.

(BTW, is that church tax exempt?  It seems too political to be allowed tax exempt status)       
That 75% may be offended, but they'll still vote for him.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 04:05:25 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?

White, black, red, yellow, brown...no one stands up and tells God to damn America and gets away with it.  The population of this country is made up of only 13% black folks.  I'd say 75% of the black folks are offended by this.  I know 100% of normal people of all colors are offended by this.  I know I am outraged.

This is ugly.  Obama needs to drop out now.

(BTW, is that church tax exempt?  It seems too political to be allowed tax exempt status)       
That 75% may be offended, but they'll still vote for him.

My neighbors aren't gonna vote for him.  They already have a McCain sign out by the street.  :)

(Yes, they are black...and very well-off....both hold degrees....she came from money and has a law degree....he is some sort of environmental engineer with an architectural firm in Dallas.)

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2008, 05:09:06 PM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?

White, black, red, yellow, brown...no one stands up and tells God to damn America and gets away with it.  The population of this country is made up of only 13% black folks.  I'd say 75% of the black folks are offended by this.  I know 100% of normal people of all colors are offended by this.  I know I am outraged.

This is ugly.  Obama needs to drop out now.

(BTW, is that church tax exempt?  It seems too political to be allowed tax exempt status)        

The IRS already is investigating the church.

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2008, 05:18:36 PM »
The IRS already is investigating the church.

That will be seen as political, and the backlash will help Obama. It happened here in the mayoral race in Philly.  :banghead:
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2008, 05:30:15 PM »
The IRS already is investigating the church.

That will be seen as political, and the backlash will help Obama. It happened here in the mayoral race in Philly.  :banghead:

Nope, not this time.  Not with "God Damn America".  This one will be applauded. 

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
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LOL! Well, no one can say that I didn't try to warn the Obama loyalists at DU.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 05:56:13 PM »
LOL! Well, no one can say that I didn't try to warn the Obama loyalists at DU.

Yeah I guess I should apologize for questioning your support of Hillary at this point.   :-)

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2008, 06:01:25 PM »
LOL! Well, no one can say that I didn't try to warn the Obama loyalists at DU.

Thought you said you didn't post at DU?
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
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Thought you said you didn't post at DU?

What I said is that I rarely post at DU... or something like that.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 06:21:16 PM »
Thought you said you didn't post at DU?

What I said is that I rarely post at DU... or something like that.

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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2008, 07:01:07 AM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

Sorry LU, I don't think I was clear in that post.  I meant, it is time for him to GO as in .... someplace other than America.  He doesn't deserve to be here.

No, I don't think Obama can distance himself from this and he shouldn't.  If I went to a church and the Pastor said a whole bunch of stuff I didn't agree with then I would leave the church.  There is too much for Obama to distance himself from.  If he comes out saying he didn't agree with all this crap coming out, then I would have to ask myself "Why didn't you find another church or push for another Pastor?"

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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2008, 07:03:45 AM »
LOL! Well, no one can say that I didn't try to warn the Obama loyalists at DU.

Yeah I guess I should apologize for questioning your support of Hillary at this point.   :-)

 :lmao:

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Re: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2008, 07:26:29 AM »
Supposedly Obama is so-o-o smart; but how could he not expect things like this to make their way into the press?

Now we also have his quid-pro-quo earmarks and Tony Rezko.

It seems the radiance is soon to come off the messiah.
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Re: Obama's Pastor: damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2008, 07:52:18 AM »
Looks like it is time for 'Reverend' Wright to go.  Buh bye.

KC

It's too late to go.  There is a twenty year history with which to deal.  And a book Obama wrote dedicated to the Rev.  And the quotes by Obama about how the Rev is his mentor and inspiration.

Too late for goodbyes.

But Obama is still black.  To question racism from blacks is racist.  Haven't you learned?

White, black, red, yellow, brown...no one stands up and tells God to damn America and gets away with it.  The population of this country is made up of only 13% black folks.  I'd say 75% of the black folks are offended by this.  I know 100% of normal people of all colors are offended by this.  I know I am outraged.

This is ugly.  Obama needs to drop out now.

(BTW, is that church tax exempt?  It seems too political to be allowed tax exempt status)       
That 75% may be offended, but they'll still vote for him.

My neighbors aren't gonna vote for him.  They already have a McCain sign out by the street.  :)

(Yes, they are black...and very well-off....both hold degrees....she came from money and has a law degree....he is some sort of environmental engineer with an architectural firm in Dallas.)

My neighbor says he don't know who he'll vote for, but he don't trust Obama.  And I think he is a Dem or not political.  But my neighbor and your's are not who they refer to as "the black vote".  Who they refer to as "the black vote" are the ones taking all the entitlements.  Those who work for a living have no need for a Dem in power.
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