Author Topic: Dad shoots 18-year old for having sex with his 16-year-old daughter (Read 6540 times)

bkg · « **Reply #25 on:** October 23, 2009, 01:22:19 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 12:54:25 PM

Ah, Dad's supposed to ask first?...then confirm his identity and age?

Is a man supposed to shoot first?

I'm all for self defense and the castle doctrine, but this step-father is out of line. No crime committed by the teens. Is there still innocent until proven guilty in this country?

Outside of the letter of the law, what's the difference between a 23 and 24 year old? Only common denominator is the teenager choosing to have consentual sex with a person the father doesn't approve of.

There's a lot of missing info. Too much for me to be willing to say pulling the trigger was the right course of action.

vesta111 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:30:17 PM »

Quote from: bkg on October 23, 2009, 01:22:19 PM

Is a man supposed to shoot first?

I'm all for self defense and the castle doctrine, but this step-father is out of line. No crime committed by the teens. Is there still innocent until proven guilty in this country?

Outside of the letter of the law, what's the difference between a 23 and 24 year old? Only common denominator is the teenager choosing to have consentual sex with a person the father doesn't approve of.

There's a lot of missing info. Too much for me to be willing to say pulling the trigger was the right course of action.

Turn this around folks, say the 16 year old was a male and dad caught a 35 year old Chicken Hawk in the room having sex with the kid. I am sure some one will be if not shot then punched in the nose.

While we argue over age of concent there are movers and shakers out there that want to change the age of concent to 8 years old.

In this case the stepdaughter had best put that little man in the boat into dry dock for a few years.

IassaFTots · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:39:13 PM »

But wait! There is more.....

APOPKA, Fla. -- An Apopka man accused of shooting a teen that he caught having sex with his stepdaughter will not be allowed to bond out of jail. Wade Edwards is facing second-degree attempted murder charges after he caught the couple in the act.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21311214/detail.html

No bond, due to violent past.

Boy shot 4 times below the belt, in the yard and street.

Girl and Boy have been dating for over a year.

The Village Idiot · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:40:16 PM »

Quote from: bkg on October 23, 2009, 11:29:31 AM

what's age of consent?

if she is old enough to do it, she is old enough to move out.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #29 on:** October 23, 2009, 03:40:46 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 11:36:33 AM

18 in most areas, and if it was my daugher, 30.

I believe it's 16 in about an equal number of places as 18, and even in a lot of the '18' states it's not criminal if her partner's within 3 years of her own age.

There is no way in Hell protecting one teenager's totally nonexistent 'virtue' is worth another teenager's life.

USA4ME · « **Reply #30 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:34:51 PM »

To me this isn't even about what the law says is OK and what isn't. The 18 yr old is having sex with his 16 yr old daughter. Kid's lucky he's not dead. What the law says and does is what the law says and does, but I'm going to have a hard time having any sympathy towards some 18 yr old boy who hasn't thought about "If I do this, her Dad might kill me," or worse he has thought it through and figured it was worth taking the chance of dying. Sounds like the boy's frontal lobe isn't quite developed. Perfect candidate for a citizen in Obamaworld: The immaturity of doing first and considering the consequences later after it's too late.

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djones520 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:46:05 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 11:58:23 AM

The age of consent in Florida is 18, although the laws are somewhat vague.

Florida's laws have a "close in age" exemption. If your under 24 it's legal down to 16. Older then 24, they've gotta be 18. I'm quite familiar with this law, because I was in a relationship with a 17 year old while I was 19, and wanted to make very sure I wasn't breaking any laws.

The 18 year old was breaking no laws.

Chump · « **Reply #32 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:58:16 PM »

Quote from: IassaFTots on October 23, 2009, 03:39:13 PM

But wait! There is more.....

APOPKA, Fla. -- An Apopka man accused of shooting a teen that he caught having sex with his stepdaughter will not be allowed to bond out of jail. Wade Edwards is facing second-degree attempted murder charges after he caught the couple in the act.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21311214/detail.html

No bond, due to violent past.

Boy shot 4 times below the belt, in the yard and street.

Girl and Boy have been dating for over a year.

This changes everything if true. You simply cannot follow someone out of your house and shoot them in the street and then claim self-defense. This father is truly ****ed, and imho, rightfully so.

The Village Idiot · « **Reply #33 on:** October 23, 2009, 06:32:51 PM »

Quote from: djones520 on October 23, 2009, 04:46:05 PM

Florida's laws have a "close in age" exemption. If your under 24 it's legal down to 16. Older then 24, they've gotta be 18. I'm quite familiar with this law, because I was in a relationship with a 17 year old while I was 19, and wanted to make very sure I wasn't breaking any laws.

The 18 year old was breaking no laws.

except trespassing... *cough*

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #34 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:40:36 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 12:15:44 PM

So you'd be okay with the father being required to check ID before reacting otherwise?

Not me. I'd think the most violent act possible was being committed against my daughter and act accordingly.

So if you had an 18 y/o son, and he was killed when he was having sex with a lady who consented...you'd have no issue with this killing?

While what they cleary did was was wrong....his reaction was over-kill, no pun.

Chris_ · « **Reply #35 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:47:05 PM »

Quote from: bkg on October 23, 2009, 01:22:19 PM

Is a man supposed to shoot first?

I supposed he could have just had a nice conversation with the kid.

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I'm all for self defense and the castle doctrine, but this step-father is out of line. No crime committed by the teens. Is there still innocent until proven guilty in this country?

Once again, is he required to ask for ID and proof of age to determine that, or can he act in the defense of his 16 yr old daughter first?...ask questions later?

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Outside of the letter of the law, what's the difference between a 23 and 24 year old? Only common denominator is the teenager choosing to have consentual sex with a person the father doesn't approve of.

You assume the father knew in advance that it was consentual.

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There's a lot of missing info. Too much for me to be willing to say pulling the trigger was the right course of action.

...or the wrong course of action at the time.

As is shown in further information, he shot the kid outside, probably as he was trying to get away. Though I understand his motivation, that is where he went too far...then again, he must be a lousy shot. Were it me in that situation, the kid would not be able to get to the street on his own, and I probably would not need a firearm at that point.

Chris_ · « **Reply #36 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:50:29 PM »

Quote from: Hawkgirl on October 23, 2009, 07:40:36 PM

So if you had an 18 y/o son, and he was killed when he was having sex with a lady who consented...you'd have no issue with this killing?

If I knew the father knew in advance that the sex was consentual, yes.
BTW, the kid was not killed.

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While what they cleary did was was wrong....his reaction was over-kill, no pun.

Shooting him repeatedly as he tried to get away, yes he should have stopped.

debk · « **Reply #37 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:50:58 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 07:47:05 PM

I supposed he could have just had a nice conversation with the kid. :whatever:Once again, is he required to ask for ID and proof of age to determine that, or can he act in the defense of his 16 yr old daughter first?...ask questions later?
You assume the father knew in advance that it was consentual.
...or the wrong course of action at the time.

As is shown in further information, he shot the kid outside, probably as he was trying to get away. Though I understand his motivation, that is where he went too far...then again, he must be a lousy shot. Were it me in that situation, the kid would not be able to get to the street on his own, and I probably would not need a firearm at that point.

The article says they have been dating a year.

Shouldn't the stepfather have known what the kid looked like?

Chris_ · « **Reply #38 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:52:48 PM »

Quote from: debk on October 23, 2009, 07:50:58 PM

The article says they have been dating a year.

Shouldn't the stepfather have known what the kid looked like?

One would certainly think so...could have been in a dark room too. He could have assumed the worst...or he could have been looking for an excuse to "off" the kid he didn't like anyway.

debk · « **Reply #39 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:01:25 PM »

Quote from: lug-nut on October 23, 2009, 07:52:48 PM

One would certainly think so...could have been in a dark room too. He could have assumed the worst...or he could have been looking for an excuse to "off" the kid he didn't like anyway.

bingo

Rebel · « **Reply #40 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:05:36 PM »

Quote from: Eupher on October 23, 2009, 07:46:42 AM

Yup. It's not so "consensual" when she's legally not in a position to make that decision.

I disagree. She was 16, he was 18. Both are HS age. We're talking 2 years here. Hell, there's 3 and a half between my wife and I. I dated a 15 Y/O when I was 17. I was a Senior and she was a Sophomore. When in the Damn HELL did that become wrong? Sex at that age wrong? Fine. I accept that. An offense punishable by death? Good God.

rich_t · « **Reply #41 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:05:44 PM »

Quote from: Splashdown on October 23, 2009, 07:15:18 AM

linky

Sorry. I'm on the dad's side.

As am I.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #42 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:09:57 PM »

The father should be prosecuted and jailed.

rich_t · « **Reply #43 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:13:10 PM »

Quote from: Rebel on October 23, 2009, 09:05:36 PM

I disagree. She was 16, he was 18. Both are HS age. We're talking 2 years here. Hell, there's 3 and a half between my wife and I. I dated a 15 Y/O when I was 17. I was a Senior and she was a Sophomore. When in the Damn HELL did that become wrong? Sex at that age wrong? Fine. I accept that. An offense punishable by death? Good God.

Do you have any teenage daughters?

If so, it's ok with you if they have sex with older men?

rich_t · « **Reply #44 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:13:56 PM »

Quote from: Hawkgirl on October 23, 2009, 09:09:57 PM

The father should be prosecuted and jailed.

He should be given a medal.

IassaFTots · « **Reply #45 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:15:37 PM »

Quote from: Chump on October 23, 2009, 05:58:16 PM

This changes everything if true. You simply cannot follow someone out of your house and shoot them in the street and then claim self-defense. This father is truly ****ed, and imho, rightfully so.

Eyewitnesses apparently. Shot 4 times, all outside the house. Dude has a violent history. Do not misunderstand that I am condoning teen sex, and do not misunderstand that I don't believe a person should be persecuted for protecting his/her family, in his/her house, but things aren't adding up here. They have been dating a year? No problems before? Something ain't right. The age difference could be that of one grade.

debk · « **Reply #46 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:17:33 PM »

Anybody watch the video?

I just watched it. The girl's family lives in a very very nice neighborhood.

Did you happen to notice the houses behind the brother?

Maybe daddy didn't like the type of boy the daughter was hanging with.....

As far as the age difference....I was 17 my whole first semester of college. I didn't date anyone my age, because everyone was older.

Splashdown · « **Reply #47 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:17:49 PM »

Quote from: Rebel on October 23, 2009, 09:05:36 PM

I disagree. She was 16, he was 18. Both are HS age. We're talking 2 years here. Hell, there's 3 and a half between my wife and I. I dated a 15 Y/O when I was 17. I was a Senior and she was a Sophomore. When in the Damn HELL did that become wrong? Sex at that age wrong? Fine. I accept that. An offense punishable by death? Good God.

Rebel, when we were kids, would we have ever dared to have sex with a teenage girl in her father's house?

rich_t · « **Reply #48 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:20:34 PM »

Quote from: Splashdown on October 23, 2009, 09:17:49 PM

Rebel, when we were kids, would we have ever dared to have sex with a teenage girl in her father's house?

I wouldn't. But I am a bit older than some here, and younger than others.

IassaFTots · « **Reply #49 on:** October 23, 2009, 09:26:14 PM »

Quote from: Splashdown on October 23, 2009, 09:17:49 PM

Rebel, when we were kids, would we have ever dared to have sex with a teenage girl in her father's house?

Of course not. And I would never dare to invite a boy over for that purpose. But it happens. Shoot. Now, mind you, I do not have children, BUT, I double dog dare everyone to look into their hearts and remember when it was that you had the S word. I would hazard a guess that a good majority were the ages of these kids. It isn't illegal, but it isn't right, and it still happens.

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Author Topic: Dad shoots 18-year old for having sex with his 16-year-old daughter (Read 6540 times)