Obama's stimulus plan working in Detroit

[thundley4]

How could Reagan "fix" cities ran by democrats? 

He should have pushed to cut off all federal funding to them. Short of that, a few tactical nukes wouldn't have hurt.

[Eupher]

Thank you for setting me straight Chump.  Now I am enlightened and have decided be a progressive.  I'm so excited now because I will no longer be called a racist.  

I guess now that you're in Commiefornia, BEG, you've arrived and are now a resident in Progressiveland.

Howzit feel?

[Chris_]

He should have pushed to cut off all federal funding to them. Short of that, a few tactical nukes wouldn't have hurt.

"... It's the only way to be sure."

[Odin's Hand]

Why are we discussing this and not singing Horst Wessel-Lied to Reagan's portrait...oh, right...wrong party.

[BEG]

I guess now that you're in Commiefornia, BEG, you've arrived and are now a resident in Progressiveland.

Howzit feel?

I feel glorious, I am all knowing now.  My inner God says that you all are racist homophobes who want to kill people who don't have health insurance.  It feels so good to be above all you knuckle dragging mouth breathers.  It's good to be....ME.

But I do have a problem now that I am a progressive.  I have an unexplainable need to complain about everything that happens in my life and to blame whitey even though I am whitey.  Does that mean I am suddenly self-loathing? 

[Odin's Hand]

I feel glorious, I am all knowing now.  My inner God says that you all are racist homophobes who want to kill people who don't have health insurance.  It feels so good to be above all you knuckle dragging mouth breathers.  It's good to be....ME.

But I do have a problem now that I am a progressive.  I have an unexplainable need to complain about everything that happens in my life and to blame whitey even though I am whitey.  Does that mean I am suddenly self-loathing? 

Self-loathing=Self-satisfaction

and War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, etc, comrade.

[Ptarmigan]

Detroit is a disaster. A good portion of the city is empty lots. Detroit's motto:
"Speramus Meliora; Resurget Cineribus"

"We Hope For Better Things; It Shall Rise From the Ashes"

[atruevoice]

Not even an accurate depiction of progressives, we do not loathe in self pity, we  pity those who don't know any better. Our goal is to make socitey PROGRESS, hence PROGRESSive. We are not all knowing nor do we claim to be, I thought that was the job of the republicans.

[BEG]

Not even an accurate depiction of progressives, we do not loathe in self pity, we  pity those who don't know any better. Our goal is to make socitey PROGRESS, hence PROGRESSive. We are not all knowing nor do we claim to be, I thought that was the job of the republicans.

Struck a chord it seems. 

[atruevoice]

You know BEG if that is a picture of you I just wanted to let you know that although I do not agree with you politically I think you are a very pretty lady, in fact you look a lot like an old neighbor of mine, you should consider a carrer in sales or something you have a very trust worthy face.

[BEG]

You know BEG if that is a picture of you I just wanted to let you know that although I do not agree with you politically I think you are a very pretty lady, in fact you look a lot like an old neighbor of mine, you should consider a carrer in sales or something you have a very trust worthy face.

Yes it is me and I could never be nor would I ever want to be in sales. 

 

[atruevoice]

Maybe you should try politics, you make some valid points and more women in government would be good.

[BEG]

Maybe you should try politics, you make some valid points and more women in government would be good.

Naw, I think I will just continue to be a stay at home mom and raise my kids.

[RobJohnson]

Naw, I think I will just continue to be a stay at home mom and raise my kids.

 

[Flame]

Naw, I think I will just continue to be a stay at home mom and raise my kids.

You know you only do that 'cause you hubby is an evil fundy rethuglican that oppresses women, right?  You can't possibly be doing that because that's what you want to do.

[BEG]

You know you only do that 'cause you hubby is an evil fundy rethuglican that oppresses women, right?  You can't possibly be doing that because that's what you want to do.

I'm being held back by "The Man" but apparently I'm too stupid to know it. 

[Eupher]

I'm being held back by "The Man" but apparently I'm too stupid to know it. 

It's not that you're too stupid, BEG. You're simply content to let the government and your husband do your thinking for you. You depend on the government; you need the government.

Why, if you didn't have the government catering to your every need, you might simply just explode from all the pressure in making your own decisions!

Ghastly!

[NHSparky]

I'm guessing that BEG is really barefoot, standing in front of the stove, but not too close.  She's kept in a perpetual state of pregnancy by her evil Rethuglican fundie racist homophobe sexist family.  Poor girl just doesn't know any better than to be miserable.  

Why not go over to the "progressive" side, where one can fap themselves silly until their crotchal region is permanently stained orange, working only long enough to get just enough money to score another bongload, complaining how those "evil" business owners actually have the BALLS (the BALLS!) to expect said progressive to 1--actually show up to work, 2--on time, 3--sober, 4--properly attired, 5--ready to work.  The ****ing nerve of these slave drivers!  

TRUTH TO POWER!  Rise up, you have nothing to lose but your chains!  Rove is teh debil!  24 business hours!  OMG ohnoes !!@!!1!eleventy!!!

[docstew]

Not even an accurate depiction of progressives, we do not loathe in self pity, we  pity those who don't know any better. Our goal is to make socitey PROGRESS, hence PROGRESSive. We are not all knowing nor do we claim to be, I thought that was the job of the republicans.

see, you say you want society to progress, but fail to define what progress you want.  We also want society to make progress, progress towards maximum personal and economic freedom and government limited to the roles enumerated for it in the Constitution.  We believe that those goals allow for the best possible society, where every person is equal in opportunity, but outcome is determined based upon effort put in, and that self-interest is a good thing.  We know that Reagan was correct when he said "A rising tide raises all boats.", and this fact has been proven empirically (that means with evidence) time and again every time his economic model is put into effect, as well as by the negative effects of the competing economic models (such as you espouse).

Everything changes, so hoping for just any change, regardless of the consequences, is a pointless waste of time.  Making it change for the betterment of all is progress.

[Eupher]

docstew:

...self-interest is a good thing....

Doc, I'd suggest that self-interest is not merely a good thing, it is a fact of human nature. Despite the warm 'n fuzzy, Kumbayah-chanting, free love approach of most liberals, we are hard-wired to look after our own interests first.

Individuals do it. Organizations do it. Entire countries do it.

Progressives (or liberals, as I continue to refer to them) utterly fail to acknowledge this fact, therefore their approach to expanding the influence and power of government is to attempt to convince us that no, exhibiting self-interest is contrary to the expressed wishes of their socialist leaders. It is our role in life to subjugate ourselves to government for the good of all.

It just doesn't work that way, liberals. 

[docstew]

thanks Euph, for the eloquent addition to my comment.  H5

[AllosaursRus]

Not even an accurate depiction of progressives, we do not loathe in self pity, we  pity those who don't know any better. Our goal is to make socitey PROGRESS, hence PROGRESSive. We are not all knowing nor do we claim to be, I thought that was the job of the republicans.

Okay Ass For Brains, how in the world do you explain that Detroit and Chicago are frikkin cesspools with your "progressives" in frikkin' charge for forever and a day????????

You really are dumber than a sack of hammers aren't ya?

C'mon, c'mon, I gots ta hear your poor excuse for logic! Prove to me you still have a brain cell still shootin' electicity to some kind of connected reality!

ETA: A cruise ship port into Detroit? Is that your idea of how to bring wealth to the poor and disadvantaged of that sewer? You'll have to repeat it in order for me to believe you're that ignorant!

[atruevoice]

The Reagan thing was obviously a joke, however Dems are in control of most large cities, but they get punished by the FED which is usually run by Republicans. Just consider NCLB, inner city schools loose funding if their test scores don't get better, so the schools that have the most disadvantaged students get less funding, its backwards, they should get more.

[thundley4]

The Reagan thing was obviously a joke, however Dems are in control of most large cities, but they get punished by the FED which is usually run by Republicans. Just consider NCLB, inner city schools loose funding if their test scores don't get better, so the schools that have the most disadvantaged students get less funding, its backwards, they should get more.

The liberal ideology is always throw more money at problems.  Some of the worst schools have way higher than average funding already.

[RobJohnson]

I'm being held back by "The Man" but apparently I'm too stupid to know it.