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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2015, 08:23:19 AM »
Umm yes you did.

I was responding to your attempted moral equivlance between what's going on with radical Islam and Jews and Christians who've committed terrorist acts.  Here's your own words.

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Islam or radicalized minority followers of Islam? From 1980 to 2005 Muslims carried out only 6% of terrorist acts on the US, less than Jews which committed 7%.
Besides is the same to be said of Catholicism? Aside from hundreds of years of religious and political oppression by the Church there is the modern example of the IRA and Irish Catholics who bombed and killed hundreds if not thousands of innocents.
Irgun was Jewish.
Stern Gang was Jewish.
What about McVeigh? Was he a Muslim?
Was Castro a Muslim?
Hugo Chavez?

You were most certainly defending the actions of radical Islam.  And in no way did I equate innocent and peace loving Muslims with the barbarians that currently dominate all of Islam.

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I'm not a "Progressive" you ignorant fool. I never said anything about "spending" in the Defense Department. And I realize what we have done, and I love America for what it does and stands for.

So you are denying this:

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Ralliers against big government seem to have no problem with the enormous war machine that is half the world’s military and the biggest prison system on the planet. The “tyranny” label only pops up about public funds for education, healthcare, the environment, or unemployment insurance. The problem with a government is not its size, but whose interests it serves. Big government can provide necessary things like healthcare, employment and education for all, and protect the earth. Or it can wage grisly wars in three countries at the same time!

Does your left hand not know what your right hand is typing? You very clearly said we spend too much on Defense and not enough on welfare.

You are very much a Progressive.  Don't like that?  Ok You're a Liberal Democrat.  But lets just call a spade a spade...you're a Socialist.

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If we knew how to manage our finances better we would have an established National Healthcare System, a well regulated Government Assistance Program, a well funded competetive educational system, and a well funded, well stocked Defense Department.

The ONLY one of the things you ticked off in that laundry list that is specifically a power granted to the Federal government in the Constitution...is National Defense.

Education didn't rise to the national level until Carter came to office in 1976 and seized what until that time had been a state function with the creation of the Department of Education.  And our test scores and world standing in math and sciences has gone down every since...and spending has increased every year.

Healthcare was and should have stayed on the free and open market.  Nationalized healthcare is and has been a debacle and a drain on national finances everywhere it's been implemented...it's going bankrupt before our eyes in the U.S.

Simply put...it's NOT the job of the Federal Government to provide us healthcare.


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And we would be much more up to par andbetter in the long run.

No we won't
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2015, 08:33:24 AM »

Islam or radicalized minority followers of Islam? From 1980 to 2005 Muslims carried out only 6% of terrorist acts on the US, less than Jews which committed 7%.
Besides is the same to be said of Catholicism? Aside from hundreds of years of religious and political oppression by the Church there is the modern example of the IRA and Irish Catholics who bombed and killed hundreds if not thousands of innocents.
Irgun was Jewish.
Stern Gang was Jewish.
What about McVeigh? Was he a Muslim?
Was Castro a Muslim?
Hugo Chavez?

The Troubles has ceased and I notice you carefully choose your time frame -- and I see you lump 9/11 in there as a tiny % blip -- almost unnoticable. 

muislims are at the heart of 99% of all the conflicts in the world and have cost us billions to keep them out.

Your sympathy for the monkey god worshipers and the followers of the pedophile muhammed (piss be unto him) is in the wrong forum.  islam stands for death, destruction torture, pedophilia and slavery.  Read the accursed qu'uran (if you dare) -- it says EXACTLY that and more evil.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2015, 08:35:47 AM »
Umm yes you did.

I'm not a "Progressive" you ignorant fool. I never said anything about "spending" in the Defense Department. And I realize what we have done, and I love America for what it does and stands for.
 

If we knew how to manage our finances better we would have an established National Healthcare System, a well regulated Government Assistance Program, a well funded competetive educational system, and a well funded, well stocked Defense Department.
And we would be much more up to par andbetter in the long run.

You are on the wrong forum prog-boy.  We don't want your communist health care.  Trying to put lipstick on the pig that is you by mentioning funcgint Defense doesn't come close to the fig leaf for which you search.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2015, 08:42:54 AM »
Ask yourself, would Jesus want you to turn your back on countless innocents because of what those on another continent have done?

People who ask what would Jesus do, tend to forget that Jesus drove the money lenders from the Temple with a whip!
All across the world muslims have been persecuting minorities. Only in muslim lands is slavery still practiced.

Here is one country has had its fill of muslim intolerance and bigotry. This is not persecution as much as muslims reaping what they have sown.

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2015, 01:01:26 PM »

I'm not a "Progressive" you ignorant fool.

Sure had me fooled.   Calling people names whilst loosing an argument is a progressive trait.

By the way, I think an apology to txradioguy is in order.

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2015, 02:21:15 PM »
I'm not a "Progressive" you ignorant fool.

Shit, boy. Check the definition of "Progressive" before you embarrass yourself further.

And if you're not embarrassed, you should be.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2015, 03:18:56 PM »
The problem with sheltering Muslim refugees is that we are doing virtually nothing to stop the excesses of the militant Muslims, while affording any who claim not to be militant (And who claim the same on behalf of their extended families, which are full of militants) as safe harbor to escape from the chaos created by the reaction to their own militants.  It's like selling $10 bills for $5 apiece, and claiming what you lose on each sale you make up for in volume.  I.e. it can't work in the long run.

Jordan was mentioned above; Jordan, not a rich country and no big beneficiary of foreign aid or a worldwide donor network at the time, did take in many Palestinian refugees.  Ultimately the Palestinians in the form of the PLO and its associates tried to grab power from the King, and the Jordanians said 'Enough of that bullshit,' followed by a purge and expulsion of anyone associated with their 'Guests.'  That is where the whole moniker "Black September" comes from...a dark day for the acquisitive refugees, but a bright one for Jordan.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2015, 03:24:19 PM »
If we knew how to manage our finances better we would have an established National Healthcare System, a well regulated Government Assistance Program, a well funded competetive educational system, and a well funded, well stocked Defense Department.
And we would be much more up to par andbetter in the long run.

Want to know how I know you're not a "Christian Republican"?
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2015, 03:43:14 PM »
Look dude this isn't bresking news. If.you need a class on what is and isn't breaking news here I'd be happy to give you a class.

Right now you give the impression of.a spammer who can't even spell sergeant correctly.

If there's anyone here who's a spammer or troll, it's you.

You having a hard time dealing with things that upset you?

And no, it's NOT "news" as it's been going on for some time. However, as the American media is doing everything possible to ignore, I consider it news to those who don't bother to check news for elsewhere.

As for how I spell my user name - it you had the slightest bit of knowledge or brain power you would realize that it's SPANISH!

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2015, 03:48:38 PM »
If there's anyone here who's a spammer or troll, it's you.


Spammer/troll with 16,000 more posts than accuser?  Is that you Nadin???

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2015, 04:27:34 PM »
If there's anyone here who's a spammer or troll, it's you.

Do you even know what a "spammer" or "troll" is?
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2015, 04:58:32 PM »
Do you even know what a "spammer" or "troll" is?

Didn't this guy melt down and leave once before over this same shit?
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2015, 05:52:00 PM »

Islam or radicalized minority followers of Islam? From 1980 to 2005 Muslims carried out only 6% of terrorist acts on the US, less than Jews which committed 7%.
Besides is the same to be said of Catholicism? Aside from hundreds of years of religious and political oppression by the Church there is the modern example of the IRA and Irish Catholics who bombed and killed hundreds if not thousands of innocents.
Irgun was Jewish.
Stern Gang was Jewish.
What about McVeigh? Was he a Muslim?
Was Castro a Muslim?
Hugo Chavez?

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols had some ties with Abu Sayyaf. Fidel and Raul Castro and Hugo Chavez are Communists.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2015, 06:20:30 PM »
If there's anyone here who's a spammer or troll, it's you.

You having a hard time dealing with things that upset you?

And no, it's NOT "news" as it's been going on for some time. However, as the American media is doing everything possible to ignore, I consider it news to those who don't bother to check news for elsewhere.

As for how I spell my user name - it you had the slightest bit of knowledge or brain power you would realize that it's SPANISH!
This is pretty much the answer I expected from you.

And if you were really retired Army...you'd spell sergeant correctly like any former or current NCO worth their stripes ..regardless of your Spanish heritage.

That's a pathetic back peddle on your part. 
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2015, 06:23:12 PM »
Didn't this guy melt down and leave once before over this same shit?

I believe so.
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2015, 06:23:14 PM »

Islam or radicalized minority followers of Islam? From 1980 to 2005 Muslims carried out only 6% of terrorist acts on the US, less than Jews which committed 7%.
Besides is the same to be said of Catholicism? Aside from hundreds of years of religious and political oppression by the Church there is the modern example of the IRA and Irish Catholics who bombed and killed hundreds if not thousands of innocents.
Irgun was Jewish.
Stern Gang was Jewish.
What about McVeigh? Was he a Muslim?
Was Castro a Muslim?
Hugo Chavez?

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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2015, 08:44:13 PM »
Don't like them there Joooooos, do ya?

I have no problem with Jewish people, I was pointing out a flaw in ye old "death to the Muslims! Muslims cause all terrorism and anguish that exists!" argument that was spouted by previous commenters.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »
I have no problem with Jewish people, I was pointing out a flaw in ye old "death to the Muslims! Muslims cause all terrorism and anguish that exists!" argument that was spouted by previous commenters.

They should and they do.
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2015, 10:29:22 PM »
They should and they do.

That's not exactly true.  However, what misery the Muslims don't cause, is usually caused by leftist freeloaders.  Greece is a prime example of a country going to ruin because of leftist ideology.

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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2015, 04:23:46 AM »
I have no problem with Jewish people, I was pointing out a flaw in ye old "death to the Muslims! Muslims cause all terrorism and anguish that exists!" argument that was spouted by previous commenters.

And when Muslims chant "Death to America"?
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2015, 05:00:33 PM »
And when Muslims chant "Death to America"?

I expect the d. m. f. would be chanting right along with them.

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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2015, 05:54:03 PM »
I expect the d. m. f. would be chanting right along with them.
And so would Buzzy
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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2015, 09:50:37 PM »
This is pretty much the answer I expected from you.

And if you were really retired Army...you'd spell sergeant correctly like any former or current NCO worth their stripes ..regardless of your Spanish heritage.

That's a pathetic back peddle on your part.

I can see already that dealing with your closed mind set it a complete waste of time and effort. You would rather confront and accuse instead of dealing with anything logically.

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« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2015, 11:18:00 PM »
And when Muslims chant "Death to America"?

Then they are obviously anti-America and probably violent.
Let's see if I can phrase this better:  there are over billion, that's more than 1,000,000,000, Muslims in the world. My point is that generalizing them all (or speaking in a manner that implies you are doing so) as either peaceful or violent is wrong and factually unsupportable. Most Muslims are peaceful, but many are violent terrorists or extremists.
Was that easier to understand?
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Re: Unfolding Rohingya crisis
« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2015, 11:35:19 PM »
Then they are obviously anti-America and probably violent.
Let's see if I can phrase this better:  there are over billion, that's more than 1,000,000,000, Muslims in the world. My point is that generalizing them all (or speaking in a manner that implies you are doing so) as either peaceful or violent is wrong and factually unsupportable. Most Muslims are peaceful, but many are violent terrorists or extremists.
Was that easier to understand?

Silence is consent. The number of Muslim groups speaking out against the terrorists could be counted on one hand.