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Title: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Splashdown on October 04, 2009, 07:26:47 AM
Anyone use things like the Amazon Kindle?

I have the Kindle for iPhone, and, against all odds, I love it! I thought that the screen would be too small to read the book, that I'd get crazy from having to turn the page every second or so. But I tried it and it's great! I can read anywhere. And, it's comfortably backlit so that I can read in the bed, etc., without disturbing my wife.

The books are cheaper, and I can pick one up instantly after I'm done the next one.

I don't know that I could afford the Kindle itself, but the app for the iPhone works great for me.

Just wondering about anyone else's experiences.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: bijou on October 04, 2009, 08:37:11 AM
We can't get the Kindle here in the UK, I have been tempted by the Sony e-reader but the book downloads are quite expensive.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Flame on October 04, 2009, 09:04:48 AM
I'd love one, but it's just not in the budget right now.  I know some people who have one...some love it, others just can't get used to it.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 04, 2009, 01:04:02 PM
I just use my laptop
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 04, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
I have the Sony 700 and love it!  Downloads are quick and inexpensive. If you 'lose' a book, Sony lets you reload for free, Kindle doesn't.   But I still like the feel of a solid book in my hands.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris on October 04, 2009, 01:24:24 PM
I've heard things about Kindle I'm not comfortable with, like they will have access to your book reader without your permission and can remove items you've purchased from Amazon without your consent.  I don't remember the details but Glenn Reynolds mentioned it on Instapundit a few months ago.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 04, 2009, 01:40:15 PM
I've heard things about Kindle I'm not comfortable with, like they will have access to your book reader without your permission and can remove items you've purchased from Amazon without your consent.  I don't remember the details but Glenn Reynolds mentioned it on Instapundit a few months ago.

They removed George Orwell's books from users Kindles. 
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on October 04, 2009, 01:54:53 PM
They removed George Orwell's books from users Kindles. 


 :rotf:


(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/1984/KINDLE.jpg)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: The Village Idiot on October 04, 2009, 02:12:19 PM
They removed George Orwell's books from users Kindles. 

Yes there was a lot of irony in that
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Celtic Rose on October 04, 2009, 02:39:23 PM
I have a sony e-book reader, and I'm not a huge fan.  I have an older one, which my be the issue.  The page turning speed is just a little too slow for me. 
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 04, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
I have a sony e-book reader, and I'm not a huge fan.  I have an older one, which my be the issue.  The page turning speed is just a little too slow for me. 

Maybe, mine turns fast. I do wish the backlighting was better, tho, more like a laptop.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on October 04, 2009, 08:20:12 PM
I like holding a real book....reading a book, for me, is a warm fuzzy therapy session. Instant improvement on my mental health.  :-)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Splashdown on October 04, 2009, 09:14:52 PM
I like holding a real book....reading a book, for me, is a warm fuzzy therapy session. Instant improvement on my mental health.  :-)


Me too; the Kindle for iPhone just makes it possible for me always to have a book handy.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: vesta111 on October 05, 2009, 04:34:12 AM
I like holding a real book....reading a book, for me, is a warm fuzzy therapy session. Instant improvement on my mental health.  :-)

Deb, I agree with you also there is the addiction element to books. For us who read for pleasure there is the unconscious smell of the glue binding, the smell of the ink print and the very paper itself that holds a promiss of going somewhere else with strangers, doing the impossible and never leave the safety of reality.

I was given some audio books to listen to and like the old time radio shows before TV they were fun but for only a short time.  Not enough sound effects just a voice droning on and on. Very little room for ones imagination to take over.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: whiffleball on October 05, 2009, 05:27:27 AM
I've never had the desire to use ebooks.  True, maybe if I tried it I'd like it, but there's something about real live books that I cherish.  I'm a big re-reader and may have up to 3 I'm reading in turn.  We have 6 huge bookcases full here and several plastic tubs packed full.  I can't even throw a book away.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 05, 2009, 06:46:56 AM
I've never had the desire to use ebooks.  True, maybe if I tried it I'd like it, but there's something about real live books that I cherish.  I'm a big re-reader and may have up to 3 I'm reading in turn.  We have 6 huge bookcases full here and several plastic tubs packed full.  I can't even throw a book away.

Are you hiding somewhere in my house?  :-)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on October 05, 2009, 08:01:11 AM
I don't like audio books at all.

The other half will listen to them while on a car trip.....I will read a "real" book at the same time.....otherwise I fall asleep.
Title: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: bijou on October 08, 2009, 08:12:35 AM
By chance after bemoaning the lack of kindles in the UK I now find out they will soon hit these shores.  Are they worth getting? Is the e-reader better?

Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Wineslob on October 16, 2009, 02:33:20 PM
I like old fashioned books. I just can't get immersed in a E-book.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Celtic Rose on October 17, 2009, 11:02:52 AM
I don't like audio books at all.

The other half will listen to them while on a car trip.....I will read a "real" book at the same time.....otherwise I fall asleep.

I've found that they can help me concentrate on routine work when I'm at work.  When I'm doing basic form e-mails, or updating the database, or filling out forms that don't need a lot of thought, I'll choose an audio book and listen to it. 
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on October 17, 2009, 12:59:06 PM
I've found that they can help me concentrate on routine work when I'm at work.  When I'm doing basic form e-mails, or updating the database, or filling out forms that don't need a lot of thought, I'll choose an audio book and listen to it. 

I have an office at home, and a TV in here....I have it on all day. It's like white noise for me. Yet, if I had music playing....I wouldn't be able to do a thing.

I wouldn't be able to listen to a book, when I read....I concentrate on the book and everything else just breaks in occasionally.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on October 28, 2009, 10:17:56 AM
Barnes & Noble has introduced their new E-Reader.  It's called the Nook.  The Nook E-Reader.    :lmao: :rotf:
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 09:09:08 AM
I'm "reviving" this thread .... Kindler here and adore it.  I never thought I would enjoy an e-reader until I actually got her.  She's with me 24/7 and I named her Bratling.  I had to start clearing out some of my books, they were taking over my condo big time.  It 's been win win for me and the library.  I love the availability of all the free books and I've really enjoyed coming across so many good indie authors who have their books up from free to 2.99.
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
Bijou,  I'm curious, did you ever get your Kindle?  (I love mine)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: bijou on October 06, 2010, 09:51:15 AM
I'm "reviving" this thread .... Kindler here and adore it.  I never thought I would enjoy an e-reader until I actually got her.  She's with me 24/7 and I named her Bratling.  I had to start clearing out some of my books, they were taking over my condo big time.  It 's been win win for me and the library.  I love the availability of all the free books and I've really enjoyed coming across so many good indie authors who have their books up from free to 2.99.
I am so tempted now by the kindle. It's available in the UK now with wifi and 3G and I've been staring lustfully at the Kindle page on Amazon for a few weeks now.  :-)
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: bijou on October 06, 2010, 09:54:35 AM
Bijou,  I'm curious, did you ever get your Kindle?  (I love mine)
I haven't yet (by coincidence I've just replied to the other thread!) I am lusting after one. They're now available with wifi and 3G and I think I'll end up buying one, the free books look good and I do quite a bit of travelling/commuting for work so I'd get good use from it. The difficulty would be giving up the feeling of 'owning' a book but given that my house is full that may be a good thing.
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 10:07:13 AM
I say go for it.  I worried about giving up DTB's (dead tree books) myself but I've been won over.  I keep some of my heart favorites and leather bounds, but anything that I would buy in paperback, I buy on my kindle.  I adjust real well and it is easy to read anywhere with.  My first was a K2US, but I got the 3G & Wifi K3 when they came out.  Traveling, I  recommend the 3G & Wifi version over the Wifi only.
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: Eupher on October 06, 2010, 10:29:33 AM
Mrs E got me a 3G Kindle for my birthday. I gotta get through my DTBs first before I dive into it, but it looks interesting enough.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Splashdown on October 06, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
One of the reasons I want the iPad. It has the Kindle App and so much more.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: The Hollywood NeoCon on October 06, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
One of the reasons I want the iPad. It has the Kindle App and so much more.

I got the old lady and iPad for her birthday last year, and she absolutely adores it. We checked out the kindle and the other e-readers out there, and she chose to go with the iPad because of the myriad other apps she can run with it, specifically, the Simon's Cat game.  :rotf:

Seriously, though...she never thought she'd become an e-reader, but she spends a great deal of time on the Metrolink to and from work, and the fact that they have WiFi pretty much closed the deal for us.  :hi5:
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
If you're looking for a real multi use device, so far the ipad looks pretty good.  I was looking for a designated reader.  I love the e-ink, with no glare in the sunlight.  I've got the 3G & Wifi kindle and I love it.  If it were just the Wifi, I'd have to be somewhere that I could pick up wifi, but with the 3G, I can download a book anywhere I can get cell phone reception.  I also like all the freebies.  Hollywood, does your wife check in to Amazon for the daily freebies?
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
oh Euph, you'll love it.  Amazon has daily freebies, all the classics can be had for free, Webscriptions & Baen Free Library (http://www.webscription.net)  has SciFi Fantasy out the wazoo and there's the indie authors.  I even named mine ... her name is Bratling (in honor of what Thor calls me  :innocent: )
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: The Hollywood NeoCon on October 06, 2010, 01:51:45 PM
 Hollywood, does your wife check in to Amazon for the daily freebies?

Oh, but of course!!!!! Most of them she takes a pass on, but every now and then she leaps on them like a starved vampire! :-)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 01:54:11 PM
 :lmao: she sounds like me .... does she check into the Kindle Community?  I'm Tnafbrat there too  :-)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: bijou on October 06, 2010, 01:55:12 PM
Have merged the two threads on Kindles.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: The Hollywood NeoCon on October 06, 2010, 01:57:24 PM
:lmao: she sounds like me .... does she check into the Kindle Community?  I'm Tnafbrat there too  :-)

I dunno, to be honest. The woman has a whole different life going on when she opens that thing. Between FarmVille, reading, and writing her blog, she could be married to some other guy for all I know!  :rotf:
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 06, 2010, 02:01:08 PM
I dunno, to be honest. The woman has a whole different life going on when she opens that thing. Between FarmVille, reading, and writing her blog, she could be married to some other guy for all I know!  :rotf:
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Kindle vs e-reader
Post by: Eupher on October 07, 2010, 07:11:59 AM
oh Euph, you'll love it.  Amazon has daily freebies, all the classics can be had for free, Webscriptions & Baen Free Library (http://www.webscription.net)  has SciFi Fantasy out the wazoo and there's the indie authors.  I even named mine ... her name is Bratling (in honor of what Thor calls me  :innocent: )

Sounds kinky. Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 07, 2010, 08:08:53 AM
Have merged the two threads on Kindles.
awesome!  Thanks Mrs E
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: bijou on October 07, 2010, 10:06:05 AM
Please don't 'drink and Kindle'.  :lmao:

Quote
Before I first acquired a Kindle, exactly one year ago, I didn't usually buy books while under the influence of alcohol. I won't say I never did it, because that would be a lie. But it wasn't a habit. After a couple of glasses of wine, I tend to fixate on the present. I have no use for five to seven days' delivery time. The Kindle is wonderful for drunk people because you can climb into bed, press one button, and The Anatomy of Melancholy instantaneously materialises before you, plucked by the so-called Whispernet out of the surrounding ether.

The number of books I buy while sober is, I have noticed, inversely proportional to the number I buy while drunk. It's a zero-sum game, as Proust once observed of wet dreams: when all the resources are consumed in the night, none are left for waking life.

Counting free samples and e-books from the pre-1923 copyrightless domain, the total number of books I "purchase" per month has actually gone up by about 200%, while the number of books I purchase while sober has dwindled to about 5% of the total. You used to be able to say that someone's library looked like it had been assembled by a drunk person. Now, for me, the metaphor has become a reality. How does a drunk person's library differ from a sober person's library? There are probably as many answers as there are drunk people, so I can only speak for myself. Here is my personal breakdown of how the symptoms of intoxication correlate to book-buying practices: ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/oct/02/elif-batuman-ebooks-buying
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 07, 2010, 12:32:56 PM
 :rotf:  BTDT
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: vesta111 on October 08, 2010, 06:21:48 PM
My problem with the E-Books is that in my family we recycle our books.
I also reread a good deal of them.

I am disturbed to hear that Kindle will delete a book one has paid for, this is theft isn't it.?

I just may amble over to B&M and check out their prices, I take it one must give a credit card number to the company that sends you the books,  :censored: I hate that, makes me not to happy to just give access to our bank account to strangers.

 
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: rich_t on October 08, 2010, 06:48:31 PM
My wife has a Kindle for her b-day.  She loves it.

I've asked her to buy me one for Christmas.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: bijou on October 09, 2010, 09:49:25 AM
Well my Kindle has arrived. I know I'm going to love it already. There are some great free books too.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on October 11, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
Bijou!  I am soo excited for ya!  :hi5:  :cheersmate:

Vesta111,  the only books Amazon deleted were books that they found out the publisher did not have the rights to publish in the first place .... they did come out and apologize and have been much more vigilant in checking that no copyrights are being broken with the e books they're putting out so it's only been a couple that have been deleted.  I've never had a book deleted.

A neat thing for families or friends who like to share.  You can register up to 6 Kindles or devices to one account, so any kindles on the same account can share books from that account ... even at the same time.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 19, 2010, 12:49:38 PM
I'm seriously thinking about getting the Nook from Barnes & Noble, the $149 1, no idea why I'm leaning towards the Nook instead of the Kindle. Opinions on whether or not that's a good choice please. Also the 3G, is that only if you want to download books? the Nook I was looking at has wifi, the cheaper Kindle version also, but it still says I can surf the net. Oh, and I just realized, the Kindle has a function where you can put the book on like speaker, not sure if the Nook has that.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 19, 2010, 01:14:24 PM
Oh, and I was also looking at the Sony E-Reader, it's strictly an E-Reader, no wifi, and I'm kind of liking that idea, I want to use this for reading, I really don't want to use it for internet, the only drawback is the short batter life, I think it's 6 hours, but then if I'm only going to use that for reading and nothing else then maybe the 6 hours is fine. I saw it at bestbuy.com for $99.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 20, 2010, 02:18:28 AM
I have 2 Sony's- the Pocket Edition and an older 700. They are sturdier than the Kindle or Nook. I like that I can get books anywhere, even Amazon. Someone always finds a way to convert them to epub. :naughty: Amazon and B&N have free ebooks and samples. I've picked up some good ones that way, even current best sellers.   I have the PC and android versions of Kindle and Nook, so I'm covered. :p
I've never had a problem with battery life.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 20, 2010, 07:38:34 AM
Well I did tons of research yesterday and I'm still leaning towards the Nook, the only thing I'm disappointed with about the Nook is no text to speech feature.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on December 20, 2010, 08:29:48 AM
Well I did tons of research yesterday and I'm still leaning towards the Nook, the only thing I'm disappointed with about the Nook is no text to speech feature.

You came to pretty much the same conclusion that I did. They are about $148 @ WalMart(the non-wifi).
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 20, 2010, 10:15:08 AM
You came to pretty much the same conclusion that I did. They are about $148 @ WalMart(the non-wifi).

The $149 Nook I'm leaning towards has wifi, it just doesn't have the 3G, and I don't think I really need the 3G. I really like the idea of text to speech because I'm 1 of those people who can't read in the car because I get car sick, but I guess it doesn't matter because I doubt hubby would want to listen to a book being read on a long drive anyway. I think I'll go to Barnes and Noble after Christmas and take a look at it. I didn't know Walmart had them so I just may take a look at them up there.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on December 20, 2010, 10:44:12 AM
The $149 Nook I'm leaning towards has wifi, it just doesn't have the 3G, and I don't think I really need the 3G. I really like the idea of text to speech because I'm 1 of those people who can't read in the car because I get car sick, but I guess it doesn't matter because I doubt hubby would want to listen to a book being read on a long drive anyway. I think I'll go to Barnes and Noble after Christmas and take a look at it. I didn't know Walmart had them so I just may take a look at them up there.

M listens to books on tape when we're long distance driving. I read a book at the same time. I just can't focus on the voice....I want the book.  :-)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 20, 2010, 10:50:50 AM
M listens to books on tape when we're long distance driving. I read a book at the same time. I just can't focus on the voice....I want the book.  :-)

LOL, it's usually either politics or sports on in the car, or the local station to get traffic. I wish I could read in the car, if I have to read a map I can only look at it for seconds at a time or there'd be a mess in the car.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on December 20, 2010, 12:17:44 PM
LOL, it's usually either politics or sports on in the car, or the local station to get traffic. I wish I could read in the car, if I have to read a map I can only look at it for seconds at a time or there'd be a mess in the car.

Reading maps is a problem....all those little lines moving around!!

I can't have the book in my lap, I have to slouch down and hold it up in front of me. I'm good with putting the seatback quite a ways, and my feet up on the edge of the dash or window, so that I can prop the book on my legs at eye level. (did that make any sense at all? :-) )
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on December 20, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
Reading maps is a problem....all those little lines moving around!!

I can't have the book in my lap, I have to slouch down and hold it up in front of me. I'm good with putting the seatback quite a ways, and my feet up on the edge of the dash or window, so that I can prop the book on my legs at eye level. (did that make any sense at all? :-) )

It makes sense, I wonder if the positioning of your head makes 1 less nauseous?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Eupher on December 20, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
It makes sense, I wonder if the positioning of your head makes 1 less nauseous?

I'd say simply that some people are prone to motion sickness moreso than others. Being able to focus on far away images while in motion reduces some of that, I think, while focusing on small script while moving doesn't give you a sense or feeling of perspective and thus, the queasies kick in.

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but that sounds plausible.  :shucks:
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: debk on December 20, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
It makes sense, I wonder if the positioning of your head makes 1 less nauseous?

It does for me. By putting my legs up and being able to prop the book against them, it keeps the book from moving around. It helps, too, if it's interstate travel.

I do have a motion sickness problem...and get migraines. They apparently go hand-in-hand with each other. According to the neurologist I went to...there are specific triggers. Windy roads, hilly roads, roller coasters, tilt-a-wheels, ferris wheels, merry-go-rounds(even those things that go around on playgrounds), on a boat (the deeper the water, the worse it is for me), sitting with back towards the direction of movement - like on a train, in a limo, on a boat). There's more..but those are primary for me.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 06:02:01 PM
Well I got the Kindle and I love it! The reason I decided on the Kindle instead of the Nook was the text to speech feature and the weight, it was so light when I held it. I went to get it at Staples and they were out, the guy said he can't keep the $139 Kindle's in stock, he checked Staple stores within 20 miles and they were all sold out, same thing with Target, so I just ordered it from Amazon and got it the other day. I didn't order a case with it, I have a neoprene case I was going to use, that didn't work out very well because I didn't feel it was that secure in my purse, so I ordered a case and it'll be here next week.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Eupher on January 01, 2011, 06:08:21 PM
Mrs E got me a Kindel for my birthday in Oct., and I haven't really used it till today. Downloaded three books from Amazon. Still working through my printed books, though.

Some of those neoprene covers are ridiculously expensive - I saw one today on Amazon.com for $54. WTF?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
Mrs E got me a Kindel for my birthday in Oct., and I haven't really used it till today. Downloaded three books from Amazon. Still working through my printed books, though.

Some of those neoprene covers are ridiculously expensive - I saw one today on Amazon.com for $54. WTF?

OMG! I think I paid like $10 for my Neoprene cover at Walmart, $54 is ridiculous! I found a nice case at Amazon for like $18:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00428C1I0/ref=oss_product
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Celtic Rose on January 01, 2011, 06:19:46 PM
Well I got the Kindle and I love it! The reason I decided on the Kindle instead of the Nook was the text to speech feature and the weight, it was so light when I held it. I went to get it at Staples and they were out, the guy said he can't keep the $139 Kindle's in stock, he checked Staple stores within 20 miles and they were all sold out, same thing with Target, so I just ordered it from Amazon and got it the other day. I didn't order a case with it, I have a neoprene case I was going to use, that didn't work out very well because I didn't feel it was that secure in my purse, so I ordered a case and it'll be here next week.

My parents gave me a kindle for Christmas, and I love it so far.  I don't think it will replace printed books, I'm too addicted to used bookstores and cheap books in general, but it will definitely be a supplement.  They got me a beautiful blue leather cover as well.  My mom gave me a metal bookmark, the type that it hooked that is supposed to hang over the spine of the book, with a pretty blue stone in it as well, and it it my new kindle case accessory, because I don't actually use bookmarks, I just remember the page I stopped on.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 07:42:13 PM
My parents gave me a kindle for Christmas, and I love it so far.  I don't think it will replace printed books, I'm too addicted to used bookstores and cheap books in general, but it will definitely be a supplement.  They got me a beautiful blue leather cover as well.  My mom gave me a metal bookmark, the type that it hooked that is supposed to hang over the spine of the book, with a pretty blue stone in it as well, and it it my new kindle case accessory, because I don't actually use bookmarks, I just remember the page I stopped on.

I thought I was going to be a book purist but I have to say I love it more than books.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Eupher on January 01, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
OMG! I think I paid like $10 for my Neoprene cover at Walmart, $54 is ridiculous! I found a nice case at Amazon for like $18:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00428C1I0/ref=oss_product

Here's one for $60. With a built-in light.  :whatever:

Books are cheap, but the gizmos will rape you. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DZ165W/ref=s9_al_bw_ir01?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=158QAGZ2M206FZNXEMX5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1283687462&pf_rd_i=133141011)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 08:44:03 PM
Here's one for $60. With a built-in light.  :whatever:

Books are cheap, but the gizmos will rape you. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DZ165W/ref=s9_al_bw_ir01?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=158QAGZ2M206FZNXEMX5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1283687462&pf_rd_i=133141011)

I have 2 portable booklights that I can just attach to the cover.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Evil_Conservative on January 01, 2011, 09:30:53 PM
I hinted at a Kindle for Christmas, but did not receive one.  Which is okay because we can't really afford one right now anyway.  Maybe things will be looking better around my birthday and hubby will get me one then.  Having a baby around, I think the electronic book would be better.  The worst a toddler could do is press a button instead of accidentally tearing a page out.  Plus it could fit in my purse much better than a book.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 10:05:00 PM
I hinted at a Kindle for Christmas, but did not receive one.  Which is okay because we can't really afford one right now anyway.  Maybe things will be looking better around my birthday and hubby will get me one then.  Having a baby around, I think the electronic book would be better.  The worst a toddler could do is press a button instead of accidentally tearing a page out.  Plus it could fit in my purse much better than a book.

And it's so light to carry in your purse.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Janice on January 01, 2011, 10:28:41 PM
Ooo... lookin at what you guys posted, I didnt know the whole package was so expensive. At least for our budget atm.

Now I know. :)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 01, 2011, 11:01:36 PM
Ooo... lookin at what you guys posted, I didnt know the whole package was so expensive. At least for our budget atm.

Now I know. :)

I wouldn't of gotten it if I didn't get Christmas money, the Kindle cost $139, I have wifi but felt I didn't need the 3G, and there are some really nice cases on buy.com for under $10.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Janice on January 02, 2011, 12:36:53 AM
From what Ive seen $139 is the deal of the day.

Is that the same thing as a Kindle 3 Wireless eBook Reader? Are there diff ones?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: MrsSmith on January 02, 2011, 05:45:41 AM
I hinted at a Kindle for Christmas, but did not receive one.  Which is okay because we can't really afford one right now anyway.  Maybe things will be looking better around my birthday and hubby will get me one then.  Having a baby around, I think the electronic book would be better.  The worst a toddler could do is press a button instead of accidentally tearing a page out.  Plus it could fit in my purse much better than a book.
The worst a toddler could do is:

Throw it in the trash when you aren't looking
Flush it down the toilet...or at least, try
Throw it in the bathtub with "the other" toys
Dunk it in the dog's water
Use it for throwing practice
Puke on it
Beat on it with another object

etc, etc
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: ironhorsedriver on January 02, 2011, 06:11:59 AM
I've said on here before I love my Kindle. It doesn't replace books, simply puts them in electronic format. It's light, easy to read,and can provide you with as many books you want, and stay the same size and weight. Real handy when traveling. Right now I have about 200 books, all carried in one hand.
As far as wi-fi goes, I like it. It allows me to buy a book anywhere I am, for at least 50% off of the hard copy price. If I see a 30.00 book I want while we are out shopping, I go out and punch it up on the kindle and pay no more than 15.00. Nice. I don't feel like I'm a traitor to the world of literacy because I didn't buy the book. I read for my own entertainment and enlightenment, and especially in this economy, cheaper is better.
Allthough the initial price of an e-reader seems high, it pays for itself very quickly in savings on book prices.
My complaints are few, but there are some. #1 being that Kindle is not backlite, would really be excellent then.
#2 is no color, yet. I'm thinking about moving up to the new Nook, with color. I would probably get most of my magazine subscriptions electronically then.
All in all, I'm a true convert to electronic readers.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 02, 2011, 07:32:25 AM
From what Ive seen $139 is the deal of the day.

Is that the same thing as a Kindle 3 Wireless eBook Reader? Are there diff ones?

The $139 is the everyday price for the Kindle 3 with wifi, this is the 1 I got:

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reader-Wifi-Graphite/dp/B002Y27P3M/ref=amb_link_354880722_3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0TDEEA4N2AYAF48VVTCN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1285124602&pf_rd_i=507846

This is the $189 version that has 3G and wifi:

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reader-3G-Wifi-Graphite/dp/B002FQJT3Q/ref=amb_link_354880722_4?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0TDEEA4N2AYAF48VVTCN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1285124602&pf_rd_i=507846

From what I've read the only reason to get 3G is if you have a hard time getting a signal somewhere or if you're traveling overseas, the purpose of it is to be able to pretty much download a book anywhere you go. I download books at home with Amazon's 1 click so I really didn't need the 3G.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Eupher on January 02, 2011, 08:28:31 AM
Mrs E told me that the Kindle (and maybe all electronic readers) can contain as many as 20,000 books.

That's a bigass library right in the palm of your hand. Amazing.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Janice on January 02, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
Thanks for the info Ballygrl. :)
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Evil_Conservative on January 02, 2011, 01:29:04 PM
The worst a toddler could do is:

Throw it in the trash when you aren't looking
Flush it down the toilet...or at least, try
Throw it in the bathtub with "the other" toys
Dunk it in the dog's water
Use it for throwing practice
Puke on it
Beat on it with another object

etc, etc


Which is all true if I leave it laying around, unattended.

We have to get one of those toilet seat locks though.  She has figured out how to open it, but has not thrown anything in there yet.  Thank goodness!
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on January 02, 2011, 01:40:42 PM
I can buy a lot of books for $200.  Tough choice. :(
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: MrsSmith on January 02, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
Which is all true if I leave it laying around, unattended.

We have to get one of those toilet seat locks though.  She has figured out how to open it, but has not thrown anything in there yet.  Thank goodness!
Our grandchild #5 stays with us a lot...she is 17 months old.  She has discarded a couple remotes in the trash, only one of which we recovered.  She nearly got my cell phone into the dog water last week.  She absolutely loves tossing things in the tub, we can't start the water until we have everything in the room and ready, so we can watch her constantly.  A new roll of toiletpaper makes quite a mess in a filling tub...  :argh: :-) :-) :-)  Toddlers are great, but they can do immense damage in seconds...
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Splashdown on January 02, 2011, 06:31:14 PM
I can buy a lot of books for $200.  Tough choice. :(

I know many who have taken the plunge. None have been disappointed in going to a reader.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 02, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
I can buy a lot of books for $200.  Tough choice. :(

Like I said before, I'm a purist when it comes to books and I wasn't sure if I was going to love the Kindle, but I really do love it.

BTW, just a curiosity question for the Kindle owners, since it has wifi and I've used it to do some web browsing, is there a way to clean out cookies? I haven't seen anything on it at all to do that.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Tnafbrat on January 12, 2011, 08:26:59 AM
Like I said before, I'm a purist when it comes to books and I wasn't sure if I was going to love the Kindle, but I really do love it.

BTW, just a curiosity question for the Kindle owners, since it has wifi and I've used it to do some web browsing, is there a way to clean out cookies? I haven't seen anything on it at all to do that.

oh, I haven't thought of that .... I don't do a lot of web browsing on it .... try checking out the Kindle discussion forum on the amazon site.  It's been a great place for tips and answers to questions like that
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on January 12, 2011, 10:15:04 AM
oh, I haven't thought of that .... I don't do a lot of web browsing on it .... try checking out the Kindle discussion forum on the amazon site.  It's been a great place for tips and answers to questions like that

I found the answer to it, for anyone here who wants to know, to clean out the Browser and Cookies do this:

Click Menu
Scroll down to Experimental and click on it
Launch Browser
Click Menu again
Scroll down to Browser Settings and click on it
Clear your History and Clear Cookies

I still love my Kindle, the only thing I would do different though is this, I would've spent the $50 more to get the 3G. I didn't think I would really need it, but I take my Mom to a lot of Doctor appts. and I took my Kindle yesterday to 1 of her appts. I got bored with reading and I wasn't able to get a signal at all to go on the web, whereas the 3G has a built in signal that uses A T & T's towers.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Bodadh on June 27, 2011, 08:38:44 AM
I found the answer to it, for anyone here who wants to know, to clean out the Browser and Cookies do this:

Click Menu
Scroll down to Experimental and click on it
Launch Browser
Click Menu again
Scroll down to Browser Settings and click on it
Clear your History and Clear Cookies

I still love my Kindle, the only thing I would do different though is this, I would've spent the $50 more to get the 3G. I didn't think I would really need it, but I take my Mom to a lot of Doctor appts. and I took my Kindle yesterday to 1 of her appts. I got bored with reading and I wasn't able to get a signal at all to go on the web, whereas the 3G has a built in signal that uses A T & T's towers.

Oh cool. I never thought about cookies on my Kindle. I love that thing. I kept with me all the time when I was Auckland and my gf was working. Sit in a bar, a coffee shop or in the park. Read, play a game, listen to my music, look up something on the web. Too bad Nook doesn't have 3G too. That would make it awesome.

<wow, didn't realize I was bring back such a old thread.>
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: whiffleball on June 27, 2011, 11:23:00 AM
I'm such a big fat hypocrite!  Last year I posted in this thread saying how I loved to feel a book in my hand.  Well, I still do, but I now love holding my Kindle in my hand as well!

First, I got my husband the base model off Amazon, set it up for him and thought,  "This ain't too bad."  Then, my daughter sent me the 3G one for Mother's Day (she got one refurbished from Woot for about $80 and it's fine) and I'm officially hooked.

I love being able to sample the books before buying.  Sometimes you get as many as 3 chapters on a sample which can give me a good idea if I'll like the read or not.  I can make folders, hold thousands of books in one place, surf the Web, have a separate Kindle email account, lots of features.  Plus, there are tons of free books; classics like Velveteen Rabbit and such. 

This won't keep me from buying real books from time to time especially cook and craft books, but I have to tell you that I'm now a Kindle kook.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Bodadh on June 27, 2011, 11:27:53 AM
I'm such a big fat hypocrite!  Last year I posted in this thread saying how I loved to feel a book in my hand.  Well, I still do, but I now love holding my Kindle in my hand as well!

First, I got my husband the base model off Amazon, set it up for him and thought,  "This ain't too bad."  Then, my daughter sent me the 3G one for Mother's Day (she got one refurbished from Woot for about $80 and it's fine) and I'm officially hooked.

I love being able to sample the books before buying.  Sometimes you get as many as 3 chapters on a sample which can give me a good idea if I'll like the read or not.  I can make folders, hold thousands of books in one place, surf the Web, have a separate Kindle email account, lots of features.  Plus, there are tons of free books; classics like Velveteen Rabbit and such.  

This won't keep me from buying real books from time to time especially cook and craft books, but I have to tell you that I'm now a Kindle kook.

It doesn't take long to get hooked does it? :wink:

I got the Velveteen Rabbit on it because my ex gf liked for me to read to her before bed ( before you ask, she is 41, not 4. She just thought my voice was soothing.)

I couldn't finish it !!! Too sad!!!!!!!!! :bawl:

<edit: Woot, post 100. And not too more post whoring >
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: unbiased on June 27, 2011, 03:36:13 PM
Am I the only one who still goes to the library?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Bodadh on June 27, 2011, 03:43:17 PM
It doesn't take long to get hooked does it? :wink:

I got the Velveteen Rabbit on it because my ex gf liked for me to read to her before bed ( before you ask, she is 41, not 4. She just thought my voice was soothing.)

I couldn't finish it !!! Too sad!!!!!!!!! :bawl:

<edit: Woot, post 100. And not too much post whoring >
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: seahorse513 on April 17, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
I ended up getting the Nook Color....love it... I got the little mermaid for my great niece and it had a read to me feature, so all the sound effects and different voices made it fun for her....it bookmarks where you left off, reccomends books for you and is in color. i can get this website on it as well...
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: obumazombie on April 17, 2012, 10:52:57 PM
I ended up getting the Nook Color....love it... I got the little mermaid for my great niece and it had a read to me feature, so all the sound effects and different voices made it fun for her....it bookmarks where you left off, reccomends books for you and is in color. i can get this website on it as well...
So, of all the readers you recommend the nook ?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 17, 2012, 10:56:38 PM
My only complaint about the Kindle Fire is the terrible keyboard and the relatively small screen (compared to the iPad).
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: seahorse513 on April 17, 2012, 11:17:01 PM
So, of all the readers you recommend the nook ?
Yes, I went on an extensive research like 6 months...I just really love it!!
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: DefiantSix on April 17, 2012, 11:54:59 PM
We bought a pair of Nook Touch for our household.  My wife preferred the e-ink over the "computer screen" look of the Nook Color.  You'd be amazed how many books we already have in our little electronic libraries now.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: A7X_foREVer on April 25, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
I was going to be getting a IPad but it has not been in the budget I may have to change my mind about that with all the great comments here about the Kindle Fire
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: seahorse513 on April 25, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
I was going to be getting a IPad but it has not been in the budget I may have to change my mind about that with all the great comments here about the Kindle Fire
I did alot of research, as I mentioned earlier. I like the fact that i can go ta a Barnes and Noble store and get personal help, something I can't do with a Kindle.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on April 25, 2012, 08:01:52 PM
I still prefer my Kindle black and gray screen over the color screens I've seen. And yes, these things hold a lot of books, I have almost 200 in my Kindle and was able to clean out most of my books by donating them or giving them away to people.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
The lowest-priced iPad I can find is $500.  **** that.  I'll put out $199 for a Kindle and save the rest for books.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:04:16 PM
I did alot of research, as I mentioned earlier. I like the fact that i can go ta a Barnes and Noble store and get personal help, something I can't do with a Kindle.
Good luck when all the B&N stores are closed.  We lost the one in Cool Springs last year.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
I still prefer my Kindle black and gray screen over the color screens I've seen. And yes, these things hold a lot of books, I have almost 200 in my Kindle and was able to clean out most of my books by donating them or giving them away to people.
My Kindle Fire has 5 Gb of storage space and I can download and play audio books from it.  I haven't tried it yet because I still have the stock radio in my car that has no USB/iPod/headphone jack. 

Maybe I should buy a new car. :-)

I'm considering a Solara when the Camry goes belly up.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: EagleKeeper on April 25, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
The Plainfield Indiana B&N went up in smoke to.

As for the rest of them, they are also going the way of Galyans.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
I was surprised when the one here shut down.  That area is in one of the twenty five most affluent counties in the entire country.  The real estate is probably worth more than the store's entire inventory.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on April 25, 2012, 08:17:46 PM
My Kindle Fire has 5 Gb of storage space and I can download and play audio books from it.  I haven't tried it yet because I still have the stock radio in my car that has no USB/iPod/headphone jack.  

Maybe I should buy a new car. :-)

I'm considering a Solara when the Camry goes belly up.

I would like to get the Fire to use for browsing the net, I assume they're going to come out with 1 that has built in wifi?
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
I would like to get the Fire to use for browsing the net, I assume they're going to come out with 1 that has built in wifi?
The Kindle Fire has wifi access, but you have to use an existing connection.  I have to use my ISP at home to log on.  Good thing my Clear receiver is portable (if you don't care about maximum speed, it's worth $45 a month).  I've used it at the airport, the junkyard, and at work.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Ballygrl on April 25, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
The Kindle Fire has wifi access, but you have to use an existing connection.  I have to use my ISP at home to log on.  Good thing my Clear receiver is portable (if you don't care about maximum speed, it's worth $45 a month).

I don't have the Kindle with built in 3G, so I use my signal from home when I download a book, but I'd like the Fire if it had built in 3G and I could use it anywhere.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: Chris_ on April 25, 2012, 08:27:01 PM
As far as I know it doesn't, but the Kindle Fire supports 4G -- it's quite a bit faster. 

It would be nice.  I'm a little jealous of my brother's "Check-In" feature on Facebook so I've never been able to use it.  I've never gotten it to work from the Kindle.
Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: vesta111 on April 27, 2012, 09:03:12 AM
As far as I know it doesn't, but the Kindle Fire supports 4G -- it's quite a bit faster. 

It would be nice.  I'm a little jealous of my brother's "Check-In" feature on Facebook so I've never been able to use it.  I've never gotten it to work from the Kindle.

Reread his intire thread an have some reservations on Any Electronic reading material.

Years ago when I Was cleaning out an attic I brought about 1500 books down stairs and tried to figure out how to build book cases for them.  The kids were young and I had not only the books I had read as a kid but the books read by parents and gradparents. I did often reread my books, and there's, and was tired of hunting through boxes in the attic for renewing old acquaintances and favorits from 20+ years ago.

A friend of my 10 year old son came to visit and he asked if I was going to open a book shop.   My son kind of puffed out his little chest and with great pride told him that the book were ours and  I his mother had read every one of them.   He went on to tell him that all the kids read as much as they could even the youngest at 4-5 would grab a book that a grand parent had read at their age.

Kind of sad as the parents of my kids friends family's, the Civilians did not read books, so if they did went to the library and had to return the books.  None of the kids favorites were kept to be handed on to future generations.

I adored books in the 1930 era into the war time charges of the Mysteries of the time.  The Thin Man series and the Trixie Beldon series.   My kids would never become addicted to reading had I not had these books on hand to say, try this one out .

Early very early science fiction books, one Short story printed in one of those magazines, of short storeys I read as a kid, the very first short novel written by Issac Asimov at 16 was called  " Marooned of Vesta"   first story he sold.

I would love to reread that story again as it was about mining on asteroids, something that is in the news today 60 years later.

Unfortunately I lost my private library to unfortunate circumstances in the mid 1980's,  Little by little for 30 years I haunt the old book stores to replace the older generation books but find  a great deal of them are impossible to find unless I pay a huge price.  Kind of surprising that a book, just one read by a parent in 1930 as a kid is worth today  $1500 bucks.

I worry about the technology today in an emergency going down and the inability to save books for future generations to read, not to mention that a child cannot handle in their own hands and read, turn the same pages as a great grand parent did at their age.

Up side is if enough book cases have to built to line the out side walls of a house, the added insulation will save a bundle of money on heating and cooling.





Title: Re: Electronic Book readers
Post by: seahorse513 on May 07, 2012, 06:33:31 PM
Vesta, my parents have kept almost all the books, that they had as chidren. I loved them, and now their great-grand daughters are able to enjoy them as well. We have to tell the little ones to be gentle with the pages however.