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Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« on: May 24, 2014, 08:38:19 AM »
It's rare I outright implore people to read an article

Ta-Nehisi Coates: "THE CASE FOR REPARATION" A Must Read-Let it marinate in your mind & read it again

MUST READ: 'The Case for Reparations' - The Atlantic

If you respond to Coates's reparations piece and mention slavery, you obviously didn't read it

The Race Wealth Gap Is Even Worse Than You Think

Chris Hayes tonight - The Case of Reparations

Wingnuts Erupt In Rage Over Coates “Reparations” Article Without Bothering To Read It

This is nothing more than a stunt. It's a way to keep racism -- specifically Democratic racism -- inflamed to keep blacks from peeking over the plantation fence and seeing the ever-growing array of black conservatives that are successful, self-determined and admired. The best part, for the Democratic slave masters, is the fact that they know it will never fly.

Democrats pick fights to keep people divided. They picked the gay marriage fight but then some judges ruined it by declaring marriage an equal rights. Now that queers can marry they not only have lost a divisive issue but now the gays have gone and made full-spectacle jackasses of themselves with a raging bigotry that has people rallying around Phil Robertson and Chik-Fil-A.

The climate fraud is being exposed as real science actually begins to sneak its way into the public's view.

They wanted to claim healthcare was an issue but now that they own it they can't use that excuse and what's worse their incompetence is on full display.

They wanted to say the MIC was the problem but here's Obama, gutting the military and slinking away from two wars only to be repaid by a deteriorating Libya, impotence in Ukraine, an Arab Spring exploding in his face, an expansionist China, North Korea even more batshit crazier and nobody trusting him to go into Syria or Iran.

So they need an unattainable dream. Something to keep people agitated and at each others throats. Something that allows them to claim full moral indignation and label anyone who disapproves in the most vile, dehumanizing terms.

Behold: REPARATIONS!

It's absolutely bogus. Reparations won't solve any issue and it isn't meant to. It's a fictional penance for people who didn't sin that allows the Inquisitors to demand payment that cannot reasonably be offered.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 08:50:16 AM »
I  think reparations have already been paid.....and with interest.

It's called "the War on Poverty."
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 08:51:09 AM »
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It's absolutely bogus. Reparations won't solve any issue and it isn't meant to. It's a fictional penance for people who didn't sin that allows the Inquisitors to demand payment that cannot reasonably be offered.

Well said, SSB.

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 10:50:02 AM »
In this excerpted sob story at one of the links -

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When Clyde Ross was still a child, Mississippi authorities claimed his father owed $3,000 in back taxes. The elder Ross could not read. He did not have a lawyer. He did not know anyone at the local courthouse. He could not expect the police to be impartial. Effectively, the Ross family had no way to contest the claim and no protection under the law. The authorities seized the land. They seized the buggy. They took the cows, hogs, and mules. And so for the upkeep of separate but equal, the entire Ross family was reduced to sharecropping.

This was hardly unusual. In 2001, the Associated Press published a three-part investigation into the theft of black-owned land stretching back to the antebellum period. The series documented some 406 victims and 24,000 acres of land valued at tens of millions of dollars. The land was taken through means ranging from legal chicanery to terrorism. “Some of the land taken from black families has become a country club in Virginia,” the AP reported, as well as “oil fields in Mississippi” and “a baseball spring training facility in Florida.”

I have to say it sounds a whole lot like the father had most likely never paid property taxes on that farm, and the 'Legal chicanery' is pretty much the same thing that would have happened to any poor White farmer in the same situation.

The one sane person in the same thread is eventually beaten back into line and made to bow before the Racism Tiki.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 10:52:19 AM »
Those who vote for the Dems for the past 50+ years upon the promise that things would get better, and then seeing that they don't, have no one but themselves to blame.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2014, 10:54:48 AM »
In this excerpted sob story at one of the links -

I have to say it sounds a whole lot like the father had most likely never paid property taxes on that farm, and the 'Legal chicanery' is pretty much the same thing that would have happened to any poor White farmer in the same situation.

The one sane person in the same thread is eventually beaten back into line and made to bow before the Racism Tiki.

Oh now, I'm sure that poor people of European derivation, especially recent non-English-speaking immigrants from southern and central Europe, could relate the same sorts of stories.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2014, 11:15:49 AM »
Oh now, I'm sure that poor people of European derivation, especially recent non-English-speaking immigrants from southern and central Europe, could relate the same sorts of stories.

My point exactly.  That 'Didn't know anybody at the courthouse' line is a big tell to an analytical reader, since it indicates he probably never had set foot in it to pay his taxes in the first place.

On the broader question of the demand for reparations, I would say that this is what happens when you ignore all those signs and feed the bears anyway...the bears get used to it and keep wanting more, whether you think they've had enough or not.

Another corollary of the whole scam is that if it ever comes to be, the percentage of Americans claiming to have a Black ancestor will suddenly triple or quadruple.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2014, 11:33:27 AM »
I think the only form of 'Reparations' that should be paid are a one time round-trip ticket to whatever country the afflicted person claims he/she belongs in - the flight back is in a month. Once the afflicted sees what their life would have been if their ancestors hadn't been slaves in the United States should be enough to make him/her realize that life here isn't so bad.

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2014, 11:35:28 AM »
Yeah, Sharpton et al will be all about the racial healing until the native Americans tap him on the shoulder and he turns around to see they want his check.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2014, 11:43:31 AM »
Slaves were property so were the former slave owners ever paid for the property that was taken from them?
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2014, 11:46:17 AM »
Can any black person personally claim to having been a slave in this country, and can they name the person guilty?

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2014, 12:01:57 PM »
Can any black person personally claim to having been a slave in this country, and can they name the person guilty?

The article extends it way beyond that, with all the years of Jim Crow laws, housing discrimination, and segregation...of course the broader you cast that net, the less justification there is to distinguish between Blacks and every other ethnic or religious minority that was heavily discriminated against at one time or another here, including Italians, Jews, Catholics, Chinese, Irish, Germans, Hispanics, Japanese, Viets, Hmong, and countless others. 
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2014, 12:03:57 PM »
Can any black person personally claim to having been a slave in this country, and can they name the person guilty?
Hell, most can't name their daddy......and if you watch TV, DNA usually proves them wrong.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2014, 12:13:21 PM »
The article extends it way beyond that, with all the years of Jim Crow laws, housing discrimination, and segregation...of course the broader you cast that net, the less justification there is to distinguish between Blacks and every other ethnic or religious minority that was heavily discriminated against at one time or another here, including Italians, Jews, Catholics, Chinese, Irish, Germans, Hispanics, Japanese, Viets, Hmong, and countless others.

So everyone should just pay themselves and we'll call it even.

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2014, 08:16:03 PM »
The idea of reparations aka "rape-a-nations" came into favor during the Carter years. It was tossed around awhile and then discredited. Why should some black person a 2nd generation from some non African nation get money from some white guy who is first generation American ?
It doesn't make sense.
So it quietly slipped into the background while the radicals never let go of it.
CRiA was reparations. BHO was reparations. Eric Holder was reparations. Affirmative action was reparations. Somewhat recently the courts have been used to payout to blacks money they don't deserve from lawsuits against government entities, that's reparations.
To some who haven't paid attention reparations are as big or bigger now than the original instigators ever imagined.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2014, 08:21:51 PM »
In this excerpted sob story at one of the links -

I have to say it sounds a whole lot like the father had most likely never paid property taxes on that farm, and the 'Legal chicanery' is pretty much the same thing that would have happened to any poor White farmer in the same situation.

The one sane person in the same thread is eventually beaten back into line and made to bow before the Racism Tiki.

Sure is and it happens all the time, today.
              

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2014, 03:05:02 PM »
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52. Is there a statute of limitations on crimes of such magnitude? I don't think so.

I am for reparations for all victims of such massive crimes against them, no matter how long ago they happened. Because it takes generations for an oppressed people to recover, if ever, from these crimes against them.

Really? Didn't take the Asians long at all from going from their harsh conditions such as this:



To one of the most successful races in this country, if not the most successful in terms of population. Hmm, perhaps this "oppressed" mindset that's so damn prevalent is self-inflicted? Or maybe it's conditioned into them by dumbass Dims wanti.....no, NEEDING them to stay that way so they can bring them out once every 2-4 years for a vote.
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2014, 03:17:31 PM »
The only minority reparations that should be paid are to the Cleveland Indians.

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2014, 03:41:59 PM »
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2014, 03:44:06 PM »
Or this from Mia Love:

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2014, 03:56:18 PM »
Reparations advocates are after one thing and that is to open the door for endless demands upon what would be established as an admittedly racist culture.
Does anyone think they are after one "payment" and then would declare the slate clean?

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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2014, 05:04:09 PM »
The only minority reparations that should be paid are to the Cleveland Indians.

That's discriminatory to the Atlanta Braves . . . :tongue:
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Re: Newest political fad: REPARATIONS!
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2014, 05:22:46 PM »
Nothing new. This has and is being tried ad nauseum world-wide.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_for_slavery
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