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Title: The hidden story of Christendom and Islam
Post by: sargentodiaz on February 14, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
I know this article will be wasted on everyone who goes out of their way to defend Islam – and our current president – but I'll post it anyway.

This paragraph nicely summarized the truth:

In short, for roughly one millennium—punctuated by a Crusader-rebuttal that the modern West is obsessed with demonizing—Islam daily posed an existential threat to Christian Europe and by extension Western civilization.

Read the full well-thought-out article @ http://humanevents.com/2015/02/13/the-hidden-story-of-christendom-and-islam/
Title: Re: The hidden story of Christendom and Islam
Post by: SVPete on February 16, 2015, 12:00:03 PM
Actually, I think the article is a bit light-weight, though not due to inaccuracy. Its wordiness and lack of focus, IMO, detracts from the power of the history it sort of tells.

Mohammed forcibly united the Arabian Peninsula during his 7th Century lifetime. In the next several centuries Muslims exploded out of Arabia and conquered all of North Africa, conquered most of Spain and Portugal, conquered Palestine, conquered most of Asia Minor, and conquered modern Jordan, sweeping eastward all the way into Northern India.

In response to Muslim oppression of Christians in Palestine and Egypt and the Muslim assaults on the Byzantine Empire (i.e. the eastern half of the Roman Empire), much-fractured Western Europe sent the Crusades, which reversed some of the Muslims' conquests for a time (but also later horribly weakened the Byzantine Empire). But after recovering from the Crusades the Muslims turned to the attack again, and over the next few centuries conquered the Balkan Peninsula and Constantinople and much of southeastern Europe.

The Muslims were turned back from their invasion of France, in the 8th Century. The Muslims were twice defeated in sieges of Vienna, Austria in the 16th and 17th Centuries. And the Muslims' attempts to move westward in the Mediterranean were defeated in the 16th Century naval Battle of Lepanto.

I know, lots of details, but unless one presents a somewhat detailed historical-geographical context, one's claims that the ME Crusades were largely defensive counter-attacks and about the militaristic core of Islam are too easily dismissed. Providing those details need not be lengthy, as the above illustrates. Once that foundation is laid, then the explanations of the threat of the modern Jihadi movement -  which, IMO, are quite faithful to what the Qur'an teaches - have a foundation.
Title: Re: The hidden story of Christendom and Islam
Post by: sargentodiaz on February 16, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
A very nice, informative post.

Thanks
Title: Re: The hidden story of Christendom and Islam
Post by: obumazombie on February 16, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
A very nice, informative post.

Thanks
So was yours.
Thanks for posting it.