Clinton: 'I certainly didn't' know about Weinstein's alleged assaults

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Star Member DonViejo (32,572 posts) https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141887743

Clinton: 'I certainly didn't' know about Weinstein's alleged assaults


Source: Politico

 

Star Member LonePirate (7,002 posts)
1. Why did the media help ensure her defeat and then treat her afterwards as if she had won?

She is not president and it’s disgusting how the media expects her to be and act like a president even though she has stated she is not going to run again.

The media’s Clinton-Weinstein connection obsession is shameful and repulsive. It’s even worse considering the blind eye they are turning with regard to the crimes and misdeeds of the White House’s current occupant.

 

7962 (9,624 posts)
2. She should just stay quiet because thats an unbelievable statement.

Most of Hollywood knew about him. Rose McGowan won a settlement from him 20 yrs ago. Other women spoke out about him. He was the subject of jokes about him & young actresses. A friend, who was a mid-level actress, even told me jokes about Harvey and his actions. https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/seth-macfarlane-says-harvey-weinstein-oscars-joke-came-from-a-place-of-loathing-and-anger-a3656671.html
Years ago.

Sorry, but "I had NO idea!" doesn't pass the smell test
And shouldn't she give Weinsteins money as a totally separate donation to charity?

I'm sorry, but these men in power who prey on women just trying to get work just get under my skin and I hate when people act like its such a surprise when its not

Hillary is a serial liar. She's almost as bad as Barry's "I learned about it watching TV..."

Star Member ismnotwasm (33,098 posts)
5. No, Hillary does not need to stay quiet

Jesus. Just a few days ago, I was reading “why isn’t she saying anything” —

Politics and Movie stars might go to the same charities galas, but that doesn’t mean they know one another well, or about one another

So. You are saying Hillary is lying? Just to clarify?

yup.

Star Member samnsara (2,423 posts)
26. i support this woman more and more everyday...

...just because of the shit she has to put up with.

7962 (9,624 posts)
10. OMG the Clintons were a celebrated part of Hollywood since '92!

She didn't live in a bubble. These stories have been out there for 30 years! Its like Cosby; the stories were there for years, but at some point it blows up. Except Cosby was a tiny issue compared to Weinstein when it came to power.
It would be more amazing if she NEVER heard anything about him.
Its something how so many will give a pass to someone as long as they're one of ours.
Read Anthony Bourdains comments on her interview; he puts it pretty well.

Star Member Rollo (1,192 posts)
48. Nonsense. Even Weinstein's own assistant didn't know of the sexual predation...

Harvey did a good job of hiding it from nearly everyone. If a close employee didn't know, how the hell would Hillary know?

 

Star Member emulatorloo (33,154 posts)
19. This is not a "Hillary Scandal" no matter how bad you and Republicans want it to be.

It is not a "Democrat Scandal" either.

Stop carrying water for the rightwing.

Star Member MrsCoffee (395 posts)
25. These men who blame everything on Hillary get under my skin and I hate when people act

like she is their serial scapegoat.

They are the ones that should just stay quiet because all of those statements condemning her for someone else's actions are ridiculous.

 

Star Member LiberalLovinLug (6,620 posts)
40. You are most likely correct in that I'm sure she knew he was probably not a boy scout

Its laughable and frankly insulting to her to think someone as smart and aware as she did NOT know about the stories and settlements going back decades.

BUT, I disagree that she should have remained silent, because that would only incite ruminations by the right that she knew, and accepted money anyways and now is hiding. (yes yes Trump was even worse, but Republicans are like toddlers, they have short attention spans and only think they are right and the adults in the room are always wrong)

And I also disagree with the idea that once speaking, she should have admitted she knew all along. What would that accomplish? Firstly its still unproven. Politically, its better to lie about it. Yes, I said lie. I now, am so beyond this third way strategy of capitulation and defensiveness that the Dems have used in the past decade. Its a new world of politics where obviously going high when they go low just does not work anymore. It should be tweaked: We will try to stay on the high ground as much as we can, but when they go low, we may have to go low as well. The stakes are too high to demand perfection. If there is no way to ever prove Hillary knew about Weinstein's more sordid deeds, then no reason to say otherwise, and give a story legs it doesn't have.

 

NanceGreggs (22,924 posts)
72. Sure, makes perfect sense.

It makes perfect sense that Hillary – whose life’s work AND political career has been focused on the protection of/empowerment of girls and women – knew all about Weinstein, but continued a relationship with him anyway. Surely she would have no concerns about Weinstein being exposed as a sexual predator at some point, because the GOP and the media have never, ever tried to dig up dirt to throw at her and would have ignored the whole thing if it ever came to light.

If Weinstein’s behaviour was so widely-known for years, one wonders why the GOP didn’t pounce on the opportunity to link HRC/Democrats and Weinstein long before now – like, for example, during Hillary’s 2016 campaign. They could have ginned-up the story to ”Benghazi!!! What about her emails?!?” status within days. I guess even though “everyone knew”, the everyones in the GOP simply decided to let this one go without a word. Sure, makes perfect sense.

How naïve do you have to be to NOT know that men like Weinstein never display their true nature when socializing with people outside of their own industry, especially when moving in political circles? That’s part of how men like this get away with their behaviour for decades – by keeping their proclivities under wraps, while maintaining the “I’m a really nice guy” façade.

Yeah, something doesn’t pass the “smell test” here – but it’s not Hillary.

 

stonecutter357 (7,116 posts)
69. **** trump...

[USA4ME]

Drunken nance naturally misses the bigger picture because she refuses to acknowledge the simple truth that the media will always run interference and provide cover for Dems/liberals. Only when their hands are forced will they abandon, to some small degree, their collusion. Note the reports about how the NYT and NBC both killed stories about Weinstein in the past for ongoing evidence of how the Dems and media work together. Watch how quickly they'll kill this story should it get too far off track and start interfering with the Dems ability to frame the political narrative via the media.

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Star Member LonePirate (7,002 posts)
1. Why did the media help ensure her defeat and then treat her afterwards as if she had won?

She is not president

what was that?

She is not president

say it again

She is not president

I can't hear you

She is not president

Thank you

[DumbAss Tanker]

Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.

 

[USA4ME]

Here is some advice for drunken Nance:

If you really want to advance women’s right not to be harassed in the workplace, DON’T shill for a candidate who is best friends with Harvey Weinstein and had him work with her campaign and host fundraisers for her.  Hillary is the self-made poster child for enabling bad behaviors from powerful men as long as they get her where she wants to go. Hillary would team up with a child molester and be a willing participant if it helped her gain power.

And just like the "honeypots" who helped lure these women to be molested by Weinstein, you are just another willing honeypot for the Clinton machine.

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[Carl]

The liberal elite considers themselves not only above the law but entitled to rule.
They know the MSM will always cover for them until it is impossible and even then will cut the one from the herd and push this story line that the rest just never knew.

[diesel driver]

Star Member samnsara (2,423 posts)
26. i support this woman more and more everyday...

...just because of the shit she has to put up with.

"The shit" HELLary has to put up with has a name:
William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

She chooses to continue to "put up with it"...

[SVPete]

Liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.

 

No, it's a, "Definition of Is," lawyer's word game. It just means she didn't see any rape kits with accompanying DNA tests. She knew Weinstein money was semen-stained. She just didn't have it tested.

[Skul]

Just to reaffirm.

She is not president and it’s disgusting... Negative, DUmpsquat, it's glorious.

It's important to point out,  She never WILL be.

[freedumb2003b]

Here is some advice for drunken Nance:

If you really want to advance women’s right not to be harassed in the workplace, DON’T shill for a candidate who is best friends with Harvey Weinstein and had him work with her campaign and host fundraisers for her.  Hillary is the self-made poster child for enabling bad behaviors from powerful men as long as they get her where she wants to go. Hillary would team up with a child molester and be a willing participant if it helped her gain power.

And just like the "honeypots" who helped lure these women to be molested by Weinstein, you are just another willing honeypot for the Clinton machine.

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Shilling for the enabler of a rapist spouse says little about commitment to feminism as well.

[docstew]

Anyone in the industry who didn't know about Harvey's proclivities is lying. His OWN CONTRACT shielded him from being fired for sexual harassment complaints; he only has to reimburse the company for any settlement plus a "fine" that increases depending on which offense it is.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/13/harvey-weinsteins-contract-reportedly-allowed-for-abuse-as-long-as-paid-damages.html

[AzJames73]

[DumbAss Tanker]

 

[Old n Grumpy]

No, it's a, "Definition of Is," lawyer's word game. It just means she didn't see any rape kits with accompanying DNA tests. She knew Weinstein money was semen-stained. She just didn't have it tested.

She didn't have to get it  tested, it was all sticky.

Having the clause in his contract says he knew he was going to prey on women. He is a disgusting perv.

[SVPete]

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Having the clause in his contract says he knew he was going to prey on women. He is a disgusting perv.

That clause in his contract meant that his company manglement knew what he was and did, as did everyone in the company and their lawfirm who drew up and handled that contract.

  AJ73!

Did Jane Lynch or Ellen DeGeneris work with Harvey? Did Harvey get horizontal with or handle Chelsea Handler?

[miskie]

What annoys me most about this issue is how the media is already lining up to excuse his behavior as a sickness beyond his control . He will go to therapy,apologize and all will be right with the world. In a Demorat's world, there are no Democrats that are abusers, killers, etc etc... Only victims.

[Delmar]

Response to DonViejo (Original post)Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:01 AM
Star Member Zoonart (1,721 posts)
4. EVERYONE who did not know Weinstein or his orbit...

should shut up. We are all enabling the right to make this abour DEMOCRATS and NOT about sexual abuse.

THEY are the enablers. THEY voted for this sexual abuser in the White House after hearing him confess ON AUDIO TAPE.

Stop helping the right try too use their patented transferrance on us... just stop it.
I am sickened by even a whiff of "Hillary should have done or said this or that. "Obama should have....." NOT HAVING IT.

Barry let one of his daughters go to work as an intern for Pervy Weinstein.  The Secret Service most certainly would know everything about Pervy's background and told Barry about it.  Barry knew all about it and let his daughter go to work there anyway.  Barry and Mochelle and Cankles and Slick Willy, they are a bunch of filthy animals, every bit as bad as the pock faced tub of guts Fatty Arbuckle Weinstein.

Barry knew and let his daughter go anyway--suck on that DUmmies.

And as for Cankles, compared to her, Weinstein is a piker.  She knew too, for what it's worth.

[Old n Grumpy]

Clinton: 'I certainly didn't' know about Weinstein's alleged assaults

She's just pissed because he didn't hit on her, all she got was some stick cash.

[BlueStateSaint]

That clause in his contract meant that his company manglement knew what he was and did, as did everyone in the company and their lawfirm who drew up and handled that contract.

  AJ73!

Did Jane Lynch or Ellen DeGeneris work with Harvey? Did Harvey get horizontal with or handle Chelsea Handler?

Well, as fugly as Weinstein is, the only way that he'd get hot young babes to have sex with him would be to be the gatekeeper for their careers.

[Delmar]

EXCLUSIVE: Chelsea Clinton runs from questions about handing back Harvey Weinstein’s tainted $250,000 donations - and her father deploys security to keep the Press away
Chelsea Clinton fled to her car to avoid answering questions from a DailyMail.com reporter about if the Clinton Foundation will return Weinstein's donations
Clinton, a board member of the Foundation, ran while she was attending a Clinton Global Initiative University event in Northeastern University in Boston
The night prior, Clinton Foundation press officials blocked a DailyMail.com reporter from approaching Bill Clinton to ask him questions at a public event
On Friday night, Bill Clinton gave the opening address for the CGI University conference, and led a conversation with a panel of activists
Bill Clinton did not take questions during the event, and press access was tightly restricted
Weinstein has given between $100,000 and $250,000 to the foundation, according to its records


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980948/Chelsea-Clinton-runs-Harvey-Weinstein-s-questions.html#ixzz4vWRp7F8q
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That clause in his contract meant that his company manglement knew what he was and did, as did everyone in the company and their lawfirm who drew up and handled that contract.

  AJ73!

Did Jane Lynch or Ellen DeGeneris work with Harvey? Did Harvey get horizontal with or handle Chelsea Handler?

@SVPete

Sounds like grounds for  a class action suite against the company,doesn't it? They all knew his tendency to abuse his power with sexual assaults,and this means they were complicit with it,thus conspirators that  kept him in a position to sexually assault and even rape other  innocent young women.

I have a hard time believing there aren't already large law firms circling The Weinstein Group" (or whatever the legal corporate name is) like sharks circling blood in the water.

[Delmar]

All these Hollywood starlets that are piling on Weinstein is fine, he's got it coming.  They say everybody knew but everybody kept their mouths shut because they didn't want their careers ruined and that's too bad.  But these Hollywood starlets are the ones that went after Trump, working themselves into a tizzy, imagining all kinds of nightmare scenarios where Trump would herd them into real life versions of the Handmaid's Tale--things that had zero chance of becoming reality.  All along, this POS Weinstein had the power--and exercised it--to have an genuine adverse effect on their lives.  But they all went after Trump instead.

And another thing, I've heard that some older actresses like Hanoi Jane and Meryl Streep are trying to claim that they knew nothing about this Weinstein's sexual proclivities.  I'm picking up the vibe from them that they probably had to earn their way into the business on their backs, so the young actresses should have to do it the same way.

[diesel driver]

Like that old joke:
What do you get when you cross Rosie O'Donnell with a pig?
NOTHING!  There's just some things a pig won't do...

[sneakypete]

All these Hollywood starlets that are piling on Weinstein is fine, he's got it coming.  They say everybody knew but everybody kept their mouths shut because they didn't want their careers ruined and that's too bad.  But these Hollywood starlets are the ones that went after Trump, working themselves into a tizzy, imagining all kinds of nightmare scenarios where Trump would herd them into real life versions of the Handmaid's Tale--things that had zero chance of becoming reality.  All along, this POS Weinstein had the power--and exercised it--to have an genuine adverse effect on their lives.  But they all went after Trump instead.

And another thing, I've heard that some older actresses like Hanoi Jane and Meryl Streep are trying to claim that they knew nothing about this Weinstein's sexual proclivities.  I'm picking up the vibe from them that they probably had to earn their way into the business on their backs, so the young actresses should have to do it the same way.

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@Delmar

A big part of going after Trump is career enhancement. If you are an actor or actress and don't follow the "company line" of leftist activist drivel,notes are taken and you don't get hired. If you actually come out and are verbal against it,your agent will fire you or risk losing millions because the bosses will refuse to hire his other clients.

It really is a Studio Mafia system at work there as well as in NYC. Look at how  they went after Mel Gibson after he got vocal about having conservative values,and he  was a major money-maker for them,as proof of this.

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