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Title: Luke Skywalker is sort of an asshole (It must be sci fi geek friday in the loung
Post by: Rebel Yell on February 01, 2008, 09:29:55 AM
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DerekG (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-01-08 01:12 AM
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Luke Skywalker is sort of an asshole
 About these advertisementsEdited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:26 AM by DerekG
I really dig these flicks, but one thing that's always bothered me is that nothing seems to faze ol' Luke. Think about it. In the original film, he loses his surrogate mother and father, his mentor, and his best friend Biggs in the span of two or three days. Pretty traumatic stuff, but you wouldn't know it, what with the goofy grin that kid's always wearing. Rolls right off the back; just part of the adventure. Really, the only instance where he exudes vulnerability is when he gets The Big News. It's gloriously melodramatic, but an aberration--because in the next one, he wants to give his mommy-strangling, sister-torturing, mass-murdering Daddy a big hug!

WTF is this "I feel the good in you" crap? Had I been Luke, I'd of spent the ESB/ROTJ interim plotting Vader's gruesome death. Episode VI would have been rated R, with the tagline "It's Father's Day...in a galaxy far, far away!"

Compare this detached little buddha to his Dad. Fans complain about Anakin, but in a perverse way, he's more sympathetic. When a family member of his is killed, he has a freak-out, wipes out the whole village, and cools off by wedding and bedding Natalie Portman. See, there's someone who takes things to heart.
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He's more sympathetic, but by their rules, he's a warmongering conservative. 
Title: Re: Luke Skywalker is sort of an ******* (It must be sci fi geek friday in the l
Post by: jtyangel on February 01, 2008, 09:41:44 AM
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DerekG (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-01-08 01:12 AM
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Luke Skywalker is sort of an *******
 About these advertisementsEdited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:26 AM by DerekG
I really dig these flicks, but one thing that's always bothered me is that nothing seems to faze ol' Luke. Think about it. In the original film, he loses his surrogate mother and father, his mentor, and his best friend Biggs in the span of two or three days. Pretty traumatic stuff, but you wouldn't know it, what with the goofy grin that kid's always wearing. Rolls right off the back; just part of the adventure. Really, the only instance where he exudes vulnerability is when he gets The Big News. It's gloriously melodramatic, but an aberration--because in the next one, he wants to give his mommy-strangling, sister-torturing, mass-murdering Daddy a big hug!

WTF is this "I feel the good in you" crap? Had I been Luke, I'd of spent the ESB/ROTJ interim plotting Vader's gruesome death. Episode VI would have been rated R, with the tagline "It's Father's Day...in a galaxy far, far away!"

Compare this detached little buddha to his Dad. Fans complain about Anakin, but in a perverse way, he's more sympathetic. When a family member of his is killed, he has a freak-out, wipes out the whole village, and cools off by wedding and bedding Natalie Portman. See, there's someone who takes things to heart.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7418724&mesg_id=7418724 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7418724&mesg_id=7418724)

He's more sympathetic, but by their rules, he's a warmongering conservative. 


Actually, I think he's made a perfect analogy for self-control of emotions versus not. I don't remember every detail of the movie, but in some ways Luke was far more controlled of his emotions--thankfully, time with his Uncle and Aunt rather then his father, Anakin, helped make him far more level-headed and compassionate. Luke was so compassionate that he had feeling for his father, that was evident.

Anikan, on the other hand, let his negative emotions and disappointments rule his life--sounds an awful lot like the DUmp.

Evil was able to manipulate Anakin's weak hold on his emotions.
Title: Re: Luke Skywalker is sort of an ******* (It must be sci fi geek friday in the loung
Post by: FlaGator on February 01, 2008, 10:10:02 AM
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DerekG (1000+ posts)      Fri Feb-01-08 01:12 AM
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Luke Skywalker is sort of an *******
 About these advertisementsEdited on Fri Feb-01-08 01:26 AM by DerekG
I really dig these flicks, but one thing that's always bothered me is that nothing seems to faze ol' Luke. Think about it. In the original film, he loses his surrogate mother and father, his mentor, and his best friend Biggs in the span of two or three days. Pretty traumatic stuff, but you wouldn't know it, what with the goofy grin that kid's always wearing. Rolls right off the back; just part of the adventure. Really, the only instance where he exudes vulnerability is when he gets The Big News. It's gloriously melodramatic, but an aberration--because in the next one, he wants to give his mommy-strangling, sister-torturing, mass-murdering Daddy a big hug!

WTF is this "I feel the good in you" crap? Had I been Luke, I'd of spent the ESB/ROTJ interim plotting Vader's gruesome death. Episode VI would have been rated R, with the tagline "It's Father's Day...in a galaxy far, far away!"

Compare this detached little buddha to his Dad. Fans complain about Anakin, but in a perverse way, he's more sympathetic. When a family member of his is killed, he has a freak-out, wipes out the whole village, and cools off by wedding and bedding Natalie Portman. See, there's someone who takes things to heart.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7418724&mesg_id=7418724 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7418724&mesg_id=7418724)

He's more sympathetic, but by their rules, he's a warmongering conservative. 


I don't know. He seemed pretty upset by that game of 'who's your daddy' that Obi Wan played on him.
Title: Re: Luke Skywalker is sort of an ******* (It must be sci fi geek friday in the l
Post by: Chris_ on February 01, 2008, 10:27:51 AM

I don't know. He seemed pretty upset by that game of 'who's your daddy' that Obi Wan played on him.
Obi Wan was a lying sack 'o crap.  "It was true, from a certain perspective."  Bullshit!  It was a flat-out lie.  If the light side of the Force is where Goodness goes, then it should have disassembled him and made him dead dead, not alive dead.
Title: Re: Luke Skywalker is sort of an ******* (It must be sci fi geek friday in the l
Post by: Rebel Yell on February 01, 2008, 10:40:57 AM

I don't know. He seemed pretty upset by that game of 'who's your daddy' that Obi Wan played on him.
Obi Wan was a lying sack 'o crap.  "It was true, from a certain perspective."  Bullshit!  It was a flat-out lie.  If the light side of the Force is where Goodness goes, then it should have disassembled him and made him dead dead, not alive dead.

Kinda like the definition of is
Title: Re: Luke Skywalker is sort of an ******* (It must be sci fi geek friday in the l
Post by: Chris_ on February 01, 2008, 10:42:16 AM

I don't know. He seemed pretty upset by that game of 'who's your daddy' that Obi Wan played on him.
Obi Wan was a lying sack 'o crap.  "It was true, from a certain perspective."  Bullshit!  It was a flat-out lie.  If the light side of the Force is where Goodness goes, then it should have disassembled him and made him dead dead, not alive dead.

Kinda like the definition of is
Exactly.  Obi Wan should have gone where Bubba will be going.