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Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« on: November 20, 2011, 08:43:23 PM »
Hi,

I was really surprised by this one as she discusses Newt and Romney.  I have to give the lady credit, most every time I read one of her columns I learn something.  I keep hoping someone else will emerge but I fear what we are seeing is what we get.  None of the candidates give me a warm feeling running down my leg.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 07:18:18 AM »
Hi,

I was really surprised by this one as she discusses Newt and Romney.  I have to give the lady credit, most every time I read one of her columns I learn something.  I keep hoping someone else will emerge but I fear what we are seeing is what we get.  None of the candidates give me a warm feeling running down my leg.
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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-11-16.html

Me neither...and that tingle in my leg for Cain, might just be a rock in my shoe.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 08:11:44 AM »
I love Ann.

I don't like anyone in the running except Cain. I hope he didn't lose his fire over the media raking him over the coals.

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I am not 100% on Ann's train of thought. Yet. I want Cain but I will get behind the nominee (maybe with a sour look on my face) and help defeat Obama and the socialist agenda that is destroying our country.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 08:24:07 AM »
It sounds and reads like Ann has given up and has conceded the fight in that Mitt Romney is the only viable Repub candidate.

I suppose one of the job qualifications to be president is that the candidate has to be liar. Mitt Romney is a liar - a professional liar at that.

*sigh*

Sorry, Ann, I'm just not convinced. I fully concede that Gingrich is tainted on many different levels, but I suppose we should concede that professional politicians - such as Gingrich - are bound to wallow in the filth from time to time. Goes with the territory. Cain has been successfully gelded by the Axelrod/Dem Scalpel, Bachmann flamed out (not that she ever really had a chance), Huntsman is just another RINO, Santorum flails about, etc.

It doesn't really matter that Romney hasn't had the benefit of wallowing in the D.C. sty. He's learned how to lie with the best of them. He's done it so well he would fit in quite well.

I hear that Romney's got a curly tail to boot.

Fact is, in order to want to be president anyway, you've got to have a screw loose.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 09:56:00 AM »
Amen Eupher. Le Sigh.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 09:57:34 AM »
So what's better?

Obama

or

Romney

That is the question.






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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 10:01:30 AM »
You don't even have to ask. Anyone is better than what we have. Ann's point is that we get tactical not puritanical. Party Purity is what gets us Conservatives every time. We need to master the art of working together with people we normally wouldn't and beat the Dems at their own game. Let us get into power and work from within instead of demanding purity to join the fight.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 10:48:03 AM »
You don't even have to ask. Anyone is better than what we have. Ann's point is that we get tactical not puritanical. Party Purity is what gets us Conservatives every time. We need to master the art of working together with people we normally wouldn't and beat the Dems at their own game. Let us get into power and work from within instead of demanding purity to join the fight.

Bingo.

Except that we shouldn't forget that "party purity" doesn't seem to affect the Dems all that much -- the more moonbat, the better.  :whatever:

Except that centrist voters put Barry and the rest of his Marxists in power. That was the result of an electorate that went ga-ga over an empty suit.   :mental:
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 12:35:44 PM »
Hi,

I was really surprised by this one as she discusses Newt and Romney.  I have to give the lady credit, most every time I read one of her columns I learn something.  I keep hoping someone else will emerge but I fear what we are seeing is what we get.  None of the candidates give me a warm feeling running down my leg.

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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-11-16.html

Ann left out several items on her list of praising Romney.

#1 While governor, the state ranked 47th in job creation.
#2 MA along with 11 other states are members of the cap and trade agreement. Paying for carbon credits is a job killer.
#3 Romney is the father of Obamacare. This law has devastated MA budget. He makes no apologies which shows he is a egotistical jerk. 
#4 Ann admits that Romney is a slick politician. Liars and slick do not work for me. 
#5 Northeastern politicians are not my kind of conservatives. At least none that I know of including Sanitoruim, Rudy, Pataki, etc.

The economy and jobs will be the number one issue. Romney did a bad job as Governor at creating jobs. I think we can do better than this  turkey. Also, Ann, Rove, Krauthammer run with the same elitist crowd up in Yankee land.   

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 12:37:20 PM »
You don't even have to ask. Anyone is better than what we have. Ann's point is that we get tactical not puritanical. Party Purity is what gets us Conservatives every time. We need to master the art of working together with people we normally wouldn't and beat the Dems at their own game. Let us get into power and work from within instead of demanding purity to join the fight.

I'll have to disagree......for the first time in perhaps a half-century, this presidential election is ours to loose......if we ever were going to shift the Republican party into more conservative waters, this is it.  This political dynamic may mot come around again for generations, where the Democrats are controlled by their "progressive" wing, and they are defending a record of abject failure.  If played properly, it adds up to a "Perfect Storm".

In any other political environment we'd be forced to accept a candidate that is a "compromise".......with the inertia coming out of 2010 now is the time to make a move.

I've heard Ann's comments on Romney, and to be blunt, I've never heard her actually explain why she feels Mitt is the man for the job.  Plus I don't make voting decisions based on talk show opinions.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 01:01:06 PM »
How come I get the feeling we're about to end up with a choice between RINO and RINO-Lite after reading her article.  

But between Newt and Romney, it's no choice.  Newt gets my vote.  If there's not a Republican in the White House after next year's election, the Republican Party needs to fire everyone and start over.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 01:11:41 PM »
Between Newt and Romney, I'll take Newt, but it like choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.  Possible Supreme Court retirements make this election very important.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 02:03:55 PM »
I'll have to disagree......for the first time in perhaps a half-century, this presidential election is ours to loose......if we ever were going to shift the Republican party into more conservative waters, this is it.  This political dynamic may mot come around again for generations, where the Democrats are controlled by their "progressive" wing, and they are defending a record of abject failure.  If played properly, it adds up to a "Perfect Storm".

In any other political environment we'd be forced to accept a candidate that is a "compromise".......with the inertia coming out of 2010 now is the time to make a move.

I've heard Ann's comments on Romney, and to be blunt, I've never heard her actually explain why she feels Mitt is the man for the job.  Plus I don't make voting decisions based on talk show opinions.

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Doc - With the current RNC "leadership" (and I use that word loosely), what kind of confidence level do you have that the Repubs will "play" this election properly? I don't disagree that the Repubs stand to gain enormous ground in this election, but I have my doubts that the Insufferable Moonbat Syndrome hasn't perpetually sunk in to mindboggling levels in the electorate. We see the evidence of that all the time - the expectation that government provide for and do things that it has no clear mandate to do, other than satisfy the leftist agenda.

I do see a bloodbath coming once the primaries are out of the way and I just as quickly see the average American tuning out or, at best, absorbing only a rudimentary amount of what's going on.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 03:40:07 PM »
Doc - With the current RNC "leadership" (and I use that word loosely), what kind of confidence level do you have that the Repubs will "play" this election properly?

50/50 IMO

Far too many times I've seen the Repubs blow it when they were way out in front.

The Dems historically, have been better at keeping their coalition together, and fielding a better groundgame going into elections until recently (I consider 2008 an aberration).

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 06:00:22 PM »
So what's better?

Obama

or

Romney

That is the question.

I swore I'd vote Romney before McCain and I maintain that declaration to this day.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 07:19:40 PM »
So what's better?

Obama

or

Romney

That is the question.

That is like asking if you want your turd sandwich plain or with mayo.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 08:25:35 PM »
Hi,

What I really find tough is this.  I get the daily Rasmussen report and the polling data shows that if BO runs against an :"unnamed" Republican he loses big time.  Then when they name the Republican the only one that polls better is Romney.

Newt would eat his lunch in a debate, so would Bachman.

I just wish someone would emerge but right now if the field is the best we have, then we are in trouble.  Too early for Marco to step up.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 09:31:22 PM »
Hi,

What I really find tough is this.  I get the daily Rasmussen report and the polling data shows that if BO runs against an :"unnamed" Republican he loses big time.  Then when they name the Republican the only one that polls better is Romney.

Newt would eat his lunch in a debate, so would Bachman.

I just wish someone would emerge but right now if the field is the best we have, then we are in trouble.  Too early for Marco to step up.

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At this point polls are a joke cause of the limited number of participants polled. I would betcha that the overwhelming number of voters are too busy with their own lives to bother with politics, and will concentrate on the election a couple of weeks before the election. I think everyone of the Repubs would beat Obama.

Another problem I have with polls is what good does it do to include polling in states like CA or NY. We know that Obama will carry those states. Same deal with the Repubs carrying TX & LA. Polling battleground states that Obama won like FL, OH, etc would make more sense. Polling throughout the country is just a bunch of mumbo jumble that does not amount to a hill of beans.   

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 09:34:44 PM »
Ann spends too much time with Bill Maher.
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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 09:41:33 PM »
Ann spends too much time with Bill Maher.

Some of that liberal Manhattan elitism is wearing off on her.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 09:43:11 PM »

Another problem I have with polls is what good does it do to include polling in states like CA or NY. We know that Obama will carry those states. Same deal with the Repubs carrying TX & LA. Polling battleground states that Obama won like FL, OH, etc would make more sense. Polling throughout the country is just a bunch of mumbo jumble that does not amount to a hill of beans.   

An excellent point, and a polls "internals" will never disclose where those calls were actually coming from.

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Re: Coulter on Romney/Gingrich
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 11:43:00 PM »
Hi,

What I really find tough is this.  I get the daily Rasmussen report and the polling data shows that if BO runs against an :"unnamed" Republican he loses big time.  Then when they name the Republican the only one that polls better is Romney.

Newt would eat his lunch in a debate, so would Bachman.

I just wish someone would emerge but right now if the field is the best we have, then we are in trouble.  Too early for Marco to step up.
Regards,
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Maybe I am just dense.  Obama does well heads up with specific Republicans because there are factions that support their favored candidate.  But once we have a singular candidate to support, Obama will sink like the Titanic, assuming that people realise this may be the most important election of our lifetime.  Regardless of the nominee, I will be more pro active than ever, thanks to my local Tea Party, and plan to spend election day transporting anti-Marxists to the voting precincts.  I love, love Ann, but I think she is pandering to the establishment on this one.  

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