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Offline franksolich

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world hot spots
« on: May 13, 2009, 06:20:46 AM »
As a consequence of the meandering capitulationist foreign policies of Pa Kettle in the White House, making us unsafer and unsafer, thus far I've come up with these possiblities for some real trouble, including nuclear warfare, in the near future:

Israel-Iran.  For years and years, Israel has desisted from using its nuclear arsenal because Israel has enjoyed the rather, uh, tenuous support of the United States.  Since official American governmental support of Israel seems to be receding, Israel quite naturally is going to feel it is on its own.  It is hardly immoral for a people to fight for collective and individual survival; in fact, God commands it.

India-Pakistan.  Pakistan appears to be crumbling--it was never solid anyway--to the onslaught of fundamentalist Moslem terrorists.  If the terrorists were to gain control of Pakistan and its nuclear arsenal, India could hardly be expected to remain silent and compliant.

Japan-North Korea.  Japan is getting increasingly nervous about North Korea, and with the official American governmental policy of appeasement, Japan may develop a nuclear arsenal of its own, and being Japan, that would probably take just months, not years or decades.  Again, it is hardly immoral for a people to fight for collective and individual survival.

Poland-Russia.  With the virtual American abandoment of democratic eastern Europe, Russia is rattling its saber against its traditional colonies.  Neither Poland nor Slovakia have nuclear weapons, but Ukraine does.  There is no love lost between Poland and Ukraine, but if Poland is threatened, so too is Ukraine.

Traditional hostilities, such as those between China and India, China and Russia, Russia and the United States, don't seem at the moment to present any threat.

During the Age of Aquarius, there used to be a "doomsday clock" sponsored by "pacifist" nuclear scientists and somesuch, measuring how close the world was, to a nuclear conflagration.

Of course, this "doomsday clock" was skewed, distorted, being based upon the theory that the United States was just as likely as the Soviet Union to launch an aggressive war, which of course was patent nonsense.

There was also this popular theory among the Democrats, liberals, and primitives that a "balance of power" was a good thing, because it "prevented" wars.  If one side was not powerful enough to vanquish another side, it went, then no one would go to war.

Which was more nonsense; "balances of power" create wars, not deter them.

(History of course proves this; the Pax Romana of the second century, and the Pax Britannia of the nineteenth century, when one power was so overwhelmingly strong that everybody else generally behaved; it needs noted that the second and nineteenth centuries were remarkably muted in terms of warfare and bloodshed, when compared with other centuries.)

I suspect that if an accurate "doomsday clock" were to be created, it would show the world at circa four or five minutes to midnight.

Being buried out in the Sandhills of Nebraska, I don't worry too much about my own situation in case of a nuclear war outbreaking somewhere in the world--there would most certainly be sudden and awkward changes in the life-style and living standard, of course--but I am concerned about millions, billions, elsewhere.

It's odd, how a global situation can go from near-safe to violently volatile, in a mere fifteen weeks.

Am I missing any other hot spots that have the potential to go nuclear?
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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 07:10:14 AM »
They still have the "Doomsday Clock", It's 5 Minutes to Midnight. 

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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 07:11:55 AM »
They still have the "Doomsday Clock", It's 5 Minutes to Midnight. 

But it uses flawed data.

It takes the position that the United States is just as likely to launch a war of aggression, as are the socialist powers.
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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 07:16:51 AM »
But it uses flawed data.

It takes the position that the United States is just as likely to launch a war of aggression, as are the socialist powers.

I know, and have never understood why, unless it was based on the premise that the US has been the only country to use nuclear weapons.  I don't think they have moved it in the past 2 years,(2007).  If anything, right now under 0Bama, they should reset the clock to an earlier time. OBama is unlikely to use nukes even if someone else does first.

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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 08:28:27 AM »
Despite Japan's nervousness about the Norks, I absolutely cannot see Japan developing atomic weaponry.

Japan has a 65-year history of dealing with the aftereffects of nuclear destruction. They are still acutely aware of that kind of weaponry.

There's this to consider also:

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Although possession of nuclear weapons is not forbidden in the constitution, Japan, as the only nation to experience the devastation of atomic attack, early expressed its abhorrence of nuclear arms and determined never to acquire them. The Basic Atomic Energy Law of 1956 limits research, development, and utilization of nuclear power to peaceful uses, and beginning in 1956, national policy has embodied "three non-nuclear principles"--forbidding the nation to possess or manufacture nuclear weapons or to allow them to be introduced into the nation. Prime Minister Eisaku Sato made this pledge - known as the Three Non-Nuclear Principles - on February 5, 1968. The notion was formalized by the Japanese Diet on November 24, 1971. In 1976 Japan ratified the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (adopted by the United Nations Security Council in 1968) and reiterated its intention never to "develop, use, or allow the transportation of nuclear weapons through its territory."


For that reason, Japan disallowed the homeporting of nuclear-powered carriers in its waters up until the U.S.S. George Washington finally replaced the diesel-powered U.S.S. Kitty Hawk last year. There is still a lot of antipathy toward nuclear weaponry in Japan.

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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 08:38:44 AM »
But Eupher, not even to defend themselves against a nuclear strike by North Korea?
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 09:16:26 AM »
But Eupher, not even to defend themselves against a nuclear strike by North Korea?

It would be too late to develop nukes after the fact , if NK did nuke Japan. I think Japan may rely on the US for a retaliatory strike if that happened. However, I don't see "the Great Appeaser" taking that step.

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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 09:28:00 AM »
If anything, right now under 0Bama, they should reset the clock to an earlier time. OBama is unlikely to use nukes even if someone else does first.

On the contray, there has always been a Democrate in office when we went to war. I would say our chances have greatly increased.

( Yes, yes, I know President Bush had an R after his name, but that stood for RINO, not Republican.)

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Re: world hot spots
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 09:34:30 AM »
But Eupher, not even to defend themselves against a nuclear strike by North Korea?

I agree with thundley. Too late to go nuke, but in all honesty, I just don't see the Norks doing a lot except lie and try to present themselves as a legitimate country when they really don't amount to even a 3rd world country. Japan is no threat to the Norks and not worth expending a bomb to prove a point.
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