Border Patrol agents instructed to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen

[JakeStyle]

Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/border-patrol-union-claims-homeland-security-safety-course-promotes/?test=latestnews

[Bad Dog]

Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/29/border-patrol-union-claims-homeland-security-safety-course-promotes/?test=latestnews

Good luck with that in AZ scooter.

[jtyangel]

Umm, I'd be careful to get too crazy. Do the agents realize that most federal employees had active shooter courses, information, or activities? I expect DHS was not exempt from training of this sort too but it doesn't necessarily apply for them specifically any more then it would for the MP's guarding the gates of an installation who probably had to take it too.

The key word for the agents should have been the 'mandatory training' which they should be used to taking every single year for everything from structure of their organization to the handling of information. Many modules are not necessarily practical for every persons' job, but they all must be taken--yearly. Just a thought. I think these guys are pissed from the ruling that came down recently and I don't blame them, but I wouldn't take this, considering it's one of those 'fun' mandatory training all employees have to take, to use as fuel. It should be common sense enough that the ruling is outrageous. Don't take mandatory, desk pusher training and make that as a platform because they know as well as anyone else there are lots of modules everyone has to take (unfortunately).

[RightCoast]

Umm, I'd be careful to get too crazy. Do the agents realize that most federal employees had active shooter courses, information, or activities? I expect DHS was not exempt from training of this sort too but it doesn't necessarily apply for them specifically any more then it would for the MP's guarding the gates of an installation who probably had to take it too.

The key word for the agents should have been the 'mandatory training' which they should be used to taking every single year for everything from structure of their organization to the handling of information. Many modules are not necessarily practical for every persons' job, but they all must be taken--yearly. Just a thought. I think these guys are pissed from the ruling that came down recently and I don't blame them, but I wouldn't take this, considering it's one of those 'fun' mandatory training all employees have to take, to use as fuel. It should be common sense enough that the ruling is outrageous. Don't take mandatory, desk pusher training and make that as a platform because they know as well as anyone else there are lots of modules everyone has to take (unfortunately).

But if your mandatory training says "run and hide" and you don't, say you do your job as a federal LEO instead, now you are wide open to civil litigation - and possibly prosecution from AG Holder.

[jtyangel]

But if your mandatory training says "run and hide" and you don't, say you do your job as a federal LEO instead, now you are wide open to civil litigation - and possibly prosecution from AG Holder.

Rightcoast..I'll pm you

[JohnnyReb]

But if your mandatory training says "run and hide" and you don't, say you do your job as a federal LEO instead, now you are wide open to civil litigation - and possibly prosecution from AG Holder.

"Has your illegal loved one been shot by the evil Boarder Patrol? Well, then you need to call the law offices of beatem, Cheatem and Screwem today. We have lawyers waiting to get you lots of money"