Nelson (D-FL) bill would abolish Electoral College

[Chris_]

Nelson (D-FL) bill would abolish Electoral College

Nelson said his principal argument for making the change is that the Electoral College permits a candidate with fewer votes nationally to win the presidency by capturing narrow victories in big states. In 2000, then-Vice President Al Gore won the popular votes but George W. Bush won the Electoral College.

Nelson cited that election along with this years contentious Democratic primary in Florida as reasons for his legislation. He sued the DNC last fall for initially refusing to recognize Floridas full delegation at the Democratic National Convention.

In addition to the Electoral College amendment, the bill would establish rotating primaries for presidential nominations, expand voting options and methods and try to improve voter registration and verification.

Legislation to abolish the Electoral College is not entirely foreign to the 110 Congress. Reps. Gene Green (D-Texas) and Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) introduced similar amendments in the House in early 2007.

[Chris_]

There the Dems go, trying to disenfranchise voters again.

Just because your Primary was an f'n mess, don't take it out on the rest of the country, Bill. 

[Rebel]

One more step to mob rule and a SERIOUS initiation of a discussion on secession. Go ahead, tell states they do not matter.

[Wretched Excess]

The electoral college provides the most important thing that you need in an election; a clear winner.

And that leads to an orderly transition of power.

[Lord Undies]

What a f-ing waste of time.  Don't they have some domestic oil drilling to stop or something?  You know, something that actually has a chance of getting passed?

[JohnnyReb]

Just what we need, New York, Chicago and L.A. running the country.

  you Democrats.

[Rebel]

Fixed your smilie, fellow Reb. ...and my sentiments exactly. 

[thundley4]

Wait, what?  Wouldn't this require a Constitutional amendment to abolish the EC?  Where the heck does this clown get off on telling the political parties when and where they can hold their primaries?

Let's not forget the fact that there is no "Right to Vote" in the Constitution.

[Rebel]

Let's not forget the fact that there is no "Right to Vote" in the Constitution.

Boortz listener? 

[Wretched Excess]

Wait, what?  Wouldn't this require a Constitutional amendment to abolish the EC?  Where the heck does this clown get off on telling the political parties when and where they can hold their primaries?

Let's not forget the fact that there is no "Right to Vote" in the Constitution.

let's not forget that there shouldn't have to be one.

[Chris_]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

[Rebel]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

We're not a Democracy, but this step would be one step closer to it. Democracy=Mob Rule.

[Wretched Excess]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

this is scary.  I totally agree with you.

[Wretched Excess]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

We're not a Democracy, but this step would be one step closer to it. Democracy=Mob Rule.

reb is right.


we are not a democracy, and were never intended to be.  we are a republic.  we don't decide the issues, we decide who decides the issues.

[Chris_]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

We're not a Democracy, but this step would be one step closer to it. Democracy=Mob Rule.

I know that, but even the democracy PART would be gone.  There is a REASON the founders established us as a representative republic and they were much, much smarter than these Leftist yahoos who want to take over, a la the Communists and Fascists.  You start by concentrating the effective vote.

[Wretched Excess]

Proof once again that the people who "understand shades of gray" are too stupid to understand a simple gray shading device such as the EC.

If the EC is abolished, so is democracy in the USA.  The candidates will campaign in California, NY, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida -- ONLY (interesting these were mrs. clinton states).

These people are too stupid to be trusted in any part of government.

We're not a Democracy, but this step would be one step closer to it. Democracy=Mob Rule.

I know that, but even the democracy PART would be gone.  There is a REASON the founders established us as a representative republic and they were much, much smarter than these Leftist yahoos who want to take over, a la the Communists and Fascists.  You start by concentrating the effective vote.

I must be wrong.  I am agreeing with FD.

[thundley4]

Let's not forget the fact that there is no "Right to Vote" in the Constitution.

Boortz listener? 

Nope, but I do read his blog and read most of the links that he provides to back up his claims. I disagree with some of what he writes, but agree with most of it.