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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2015, 07:21:10 PM »
Why do people who hate our troops care what someone claims about their military career?

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2015, 07:26:42 PM »
Why do people who hate our troops care what someone claims about their military career?

Unless a soldier claims to be a baby-killer, the left thinks they are lying.

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2015, 09:06:21 PM »
It's obvious that none of the military jeenyusses over there know the difference between or composition of what Army doctrine differentiates as combat arms, combat support arms, and service support arms.  Virtually everything they said on the topic is wrong.

Including "the" and "and"? :-)
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2015, 09:13:33 PM »
Including "the" and "and"? :-)

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2015, 10:22:28 PM »
The Bellevue Big Guy wore a CIB as part of his party costume.

He just thought it looked cool.

 

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2015, 10:34:47 PM »
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However, Mrs. Ernst is not a member of any “combat arms” unit. Infantry, artillery and armor are combat arms units.

Tell that to a ball-turret gunner from WW big one, (D)ouchetool.
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Mrs. Ernst was the Commanding Officer of Transportation Company. This company was responsible for the delivery of water, fuel and other supplies to units in secure areas

Oh, so no love for the Red-Ball Express, which just happened to be crewed by a large number of black soldiers?

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2015, 10:36:29 PM »
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2015, 10:42:35 PM »
The Bellevue Big Guy wore a CIB as part of his party costume.

He just thought it looked cool.

Time was, some guys would pound you unconscious for that.
              

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2015, 10:51:20 PM »
Time was, some guys would pound you unconscious for that.

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2015, 11:26:20 PM »
God, DUmmies are clueless.
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2015, 11:32:04 PM »
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40. That doesn't make the letter accurate. As many posters have pointed out in this thread, things have changed, across services, and across theaters, since Vietnam.  There are roles and functions across services during Vietnam, that may not have qualified under the same rules as a WWII Vet.

Very true.  You can, primarily, thank the ring knockers and the Canoe U. grads for that shit.  If you ask them, walking down the rear ramp of a 130 in Da Nang and hitting the snack bar, qualifies. 

In WW Big One, I think, it was 181 days on the line which dropped to 91 days, by Vietnam.  All from memory, I may be wrong.
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2015, 11:37:48 PM »
His local American Legion post got the word about Sreve's stolen valor. He came back and said they were all cool about ir, but of course he was lying.

 :-)  Yeah, I'll bet they were....   ::)
              

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2015, 11:39:05 PM »
Very true.  You can, primarily, thank the ring knockers and the Canoe U. grads for that shit.  If you ask them, walking down the rear ramp of a 130 in Da Nang and hitting the snack bar, qualifies. 

In WW Big One, I think, it was 181 days on the line which dropped to 91 days, by Vietnam.  All from memory, I may be wrong.

It's just another example of libs abusing your sig line.
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2015, 11:41:59 PM »
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2015, 11:44:16 PM »
On a lighter note:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/01/26/report-bergdahl-to-be-charged-with-desertion/

Choke on that lurking DUmmies.

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2015, 11:45:29 PM »
On a lighter note:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/01/26/report-bergdahl-to-be-charged-with-desertion/

Choke on that lurking DUmmies.

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Uh oh. That is not a good day at DU. Someone should burn a mole and post that.  :fuelfire:
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2015, 11:50:50 PM »
Uh oh. That is not a good day at DU. Someone should burn a mole and post that.  :fuelfire:

 :-)  Mine never lasted.
              

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2015, 12:01:39 AM »
Why do people who hate our troops care what someone claims about their military career?

They tried the same @#$% with Pres. G. W. Bush's TANG service and Pres. G. H. W. Bush's USN service, so Joni Ernst is in good company in that respect. A smear need not have any relationship to the truth
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2015, 08:11:01 AM »
:-)  Yeah, I'll bet they were....   ::)

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2015, 08:32:05 AM »
Let me see if I can unravel this mystery.....If DUmmies belittle your military service....you did your duty. If they praise your service, you were a dirt bag(John Kerry).
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2015, 08:54:12 AM »
In my experience in Iraq in 2006, the most dangerous place to be was on any of the Main Supply Routes in Ramadi. The Transportation and Logistics companies were being targeted by Al-Qaida in Iraq, because they were seen as being a softer(more vulnerable) target.

That being said, some of that was self inflicted, some of the leadership of the transportation and logistics companies brought it on themselves by not thinking they would get in contact and learning from their infantry brethren what to do. I've seen too many soft skill leaders think that they don't need to know how to fire and maneuver their units. :banghead:

If she served in a combat zone going on LOGPAC'S in Iraq, she definitely qualifies as a combat vet by any definition I know.

Does she have a combat patch? Then she is a combat veteran. God the DUches are idiots some times.
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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2015, 09:35:12 AM »
If she said this, this isn't a true. It's only available to 11 CMF and 18 CMF, IIRC. Maybe Cav Scouts, 19 CMF, IIRF, but don't hold me to that one. That's why they created the CAB.

I didn't read the story. It was a guy questioning her that said it. And he's f'n wrong as hell also, as others have pointed out. The PFC delivering fuel is considered a "combat veteran" just by being in country for the prescribed period of time.

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By Larry Hanft, Retired from ISU

Joni Ernst claims to be a “Combat Veteran." That claim implies that her mission was to actively engage the enemy in combat. However, Mrs. Ernst is not a member of any “combat arms” unit. Infantry, artillery and armor are combat arms units. Mrs. Ernst was the Commanding Officer of Transportation Company. This company was responsible for the delivery of water, fuel and other supplies to units in secure areas. Joni Ernst did not lead her troops into combat, as one of her ads claims. Mrs. Ernst’s troops were not combat personnel, and their mission was not combat. Essentially, Mrs. Ernst was in charge of a group of truck drivers. I am sure that the mission of supply delivery had many potential hazards, but driving trucks from one secure area to another secure area is not combat, even if personnel were armed with M16s. 

As an Army veteran of the Vietnam War, I was awarded the CIB, Combat Infantryman Badge, to signify my participation in combat. The photos of Mrs. Ernst in uniform shows that this award is absent. Any claims that she is a “Combat Veteran” seem to be a greatly overstated misrepresentation and perhaps a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. There is a distinct and obvious difference between those who served as combatants and those serving as support personnel. Mrs. Ernst and her soldiers served an important support role but not a combat role. This overstatement of service and accomplishments to gain political advantage does harm to those veterans that served and actually were “Combat Veterans."

If this is an example of the honesty she promises Iowans, I say no thank you.

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_75aea20c-54b1-11e4-b812-cf4aa783e9fb.html?mode=story

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Re: DUmp explains what a combat veteran is.
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2015, 09:35:41 AM »
Does she have a combat patch? Then she is a combat veteran.

That's pretty much what I go by.
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