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Title: God is Not a Torturer: Debunking the Doctrine of Eternal Torment
Post by: CactusCarlos on October 17, 2012, 08:36:20 PM

http://religiousliberty.tv/god-is-not-a-torturer-debunking-the-doctrine-of-eternal-torment.html

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Pouring water over the covered face of an immobilized person is a brutal thing to do. The captive experiences severe pain and an overwhelming sensation of drowning. Some victims have even been known to break their bones as they struggle against the restraints.

But waterboarding is nothing compared with what American theologian Jonathan Edwards described God doing in his famous 1741 sermon, “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” This tortuous existence extends into eternity from the moment of death.

American evangelist Charles Spurgeon preached that, “In hell there is no hope. They have not even the hope of dying; ­the hope of being annihilated. They are forever, ­forever, ­forever lost! On every chain in hell, there is written ‘forever’.  In the fires there, blaze out the words, ‘forever’.  Above their heads, they read, ‘forever’. Their eyes are galled and their hearts are pained with the thought that it is ‘forever’.  Oh, if I could tell you tonight that hell would one day be burned out, and that those who were lost might be saved, there would be a jubilee in hell at the very thought of it. But it cannot be­ it is ‘forever’ they are cast into the outer darkness.”

From the perspective of Edwards and Spurgeon, the depths of hell are inversely proportionate to the heights of Heaven, as an all-powerful God gives eternal life to both the saved and the damned. While tears and sorrow will vanish from Heaven, the saved live with enduring knowledge and are even expected to rejoice that somewhere else concurrently living souls of the damned ranging from evil dictators to their unsaved neighbors day after day experiencing continuous ripping pain throughout eternity. An unrepentant child who died 1,000 years ago is being tortured that much longer than a recent mass murderer.

Title: Re: God is Not a Torturer: Debunking the Doctrine of Eternal Torment
Post by: Undies on October 17, 2012, 08:57:33 PM

Very Interesting.  I was going to say, "Well, I'll be damned!", but I don't know what that means anymore.  O-)

Title: Re: God is Not a Torturer: Debunking the Doctrine of Eternal Torment
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 27, 2012, 10:43:33 PM

Once we are visited by death we will be given our hearts desire.

Everyone.

Without exception or reservation.





Hopefully, you spent your life figuring out what the **** that means.