Nadin and other DUmmies sign a petition against Toys-R-Us

[Freeper]

All DUmmies fit my stereotype, they are all leftist assholes who want to transform this country into something the founders would have killed or died to keep from happening.

[Tucker]

Even a blind DUmmie will stumble onto a coherent thought occasionally.  

It's rare, but shit happens.

They were lurking here to see what the correct response was.

[FlaGator]

Some are extreme. Just like quite a few here are. I filter through that and find a lot of great information from articles and videos people at DU link. You guys might try doing more of that than stalking DU. That just makes you look pathetic. You could be like Free Republic but with a slightly better GUI.

I have registered at DU and tried to have a serious discussion on the issues. The moment it becomes evident that I am conservative I get the standard "enjoy your stay" message and then a tombstone. I, for one, appreciate that you came over here and maybe we can discuss our ideological differences. You have stepped in to the lion's den perhaps but that shows me you have more belief in your ideology than 99% of DU  who can not stand to have their beliefs challanged.

[HawkHogan]

All DUmmies fit my stereotype, they are all leftist assholes who want to transform this country into something the founders would have killed or died to keep from happening.

Every Lefty wants control... control, control, and more control.

Every policy they support incorporates some form of control.

They can't stand our Founders.

[NHSparky]

Some are extreme. Just like quite a few here are. I filter through that and find a lot of great information from articles and videos people at DU link. You guys might try doing more of that than stalking DU. That just makes you look pathetic. You could be like Free Republic but with a slightly better GUI.

You find "great information" at DU?

Stop. Hurt. Sides. Laughing.  Maybe if your "great information" is how to troll local junior high schools, the finer points of basement decoration, or SSI scams made easy.

[Freeper]

You find "great information" at DU?

Stop. Hurt. Sides. Laughing.  Maybe if your "great information" is how to troll local junior high schools, the finer points of basement decoration, or SSI scams made easy.

Don't forget they watch a comedy channel for the news, and I don't mean MSNBC.

[Pretzel Warrior]

You do fit a stereotype: nadin. You are making this thread all about you. and you are lying. You never grew up on a farm and you never went hunting.

Actually, I didn't say I "grew up" on a farm. I said I spent part of my childhood on a farm. A couple of them actually. One of them was my grandmothers which she inherited from her father. And he was raised there by his grandfather.  So I know a few things about farming and the agricultural life, but I have also lived in and know quite a bit about living in urban and suburban environments.

The only reason I brought up my farming background is diesel brought up his. I threw in the fact that I owned guns and had been hunting a fair amount as a teenaager along with fishing in rivers and lakes of Missouri.  I worked in the sporting goods department of Walmart back then and sold a ton of guns and ammo along with sporting goods equipment, camping gear, fishing tackle, and the like.

Yeah, there is a lot you don't know about someone but you choose to prejudge them just because they may happen to have different political views than you.

[NHSparky]

Son, stop.  Just stop.

The bullshit's getting deep, and I don't mean from the farm.

[Pretzel Warrior]

I'd say you are correct there PW. Those that don't fit the "stereotype" seem to get banned for some reason. Fact is PW, DU is the laughingstock of the internet. Defend it all you want... the facts say you are wrong. When you got people that are too damned helpless to figure out how to google changing a faucet washer, grown adults in their 50's mind you, that says something.

When you got locutus, a 30 year old male that can't seem to GET A JOB, that says something.
When you got grown adults, in their 50's, pulling stupid stunts, like hiding the remote in their place of business, that says something.
When you got a drug addict that post, when you got someone that thinks she is a male panther in a female human body that post, that says something.

Keep it up PW. I got a lot more examples. Million dollars worth of advice for free, PW. This is a debate you will lose and lose badly.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I tire of you. This is like Alabama playing a high school team. Boring. We are talking 70 points by half time here.

Have a nice evening.

Funny how you're the one declaring the score of some imaginary game in your head.  No one has come up with much of a credible response re: my point that while people on here enjoy posting what they consider to be the most outlandish comments on DU, they also don't point out the counter balancing opinions calling said comments on their B.S.

Also, other than some lame "he was a COMMUNIST" no one has put up much of a defense as to why a man viewed right up there with Gandhi, MLK, and Jesus Christ in his graceful conduct has to be assailed by conservatives here and on other sites.  My guess is because they don't want to admit when they were wrong about a man unlike this guy over at The National Review

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/365631/nelson-mandela-rip-deroy-murdock#!

Far, far, far from any of that, Nelson Mandela turned out to be one of the 20th Century’s great moral leaders, right up there with Mahatma Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He also was a statesman of considerable weight. If not as significant on the global stage as FDR, Winston Churchill, and Ronald Reagan, he approaches Margaret Thatcher as a national leader with major international reach.

Mandela invited the warden of Robben Island prison to his inauguration as president of South Africa. He sat him front and center. While most people would be tempted to lock up their jailers if they had the chance, Mandela essentially forgave him while the whole world and his own people, white and black, were watching. This quietly sent South Africa’s white population a message: Calm down. This will be okay. It also signaled black South Africans: Now is no time for vengeance. Let’s show our former oppressors that we are greater than that and bigger people than they were to us.

[Freeper]

Actually, I didn't say I "grew up" on a farm. I said I spent part of my childhood on a farm. A couple of them actually. One of them was my grandmothers which she inherited from her father. And he was raised there by his grandfather.  So I know a few things about farming and the agricultural life, but I have also lived in and know quite a bit about living in urban and suburban environments.

The only reason I brought up my farming background is diesel brought up his. I threw in the fact that I owned guns and had been hunting a fair amount as a teenaager along with fishing in rivers and lakes of Missouri.  I worked in the sporting goods department of Walmart back then and sold a ton of guns and ammo along with sporting goods equipment, camping gear, fishing tackle, and the like.

Yeah, there is a lot you don't know about someone but you choose to prejudge them just because they may happen to have different political views than you.

You prejudged us as well, so quit your bitching.

[Freeper]

Hey pretzel boy, want to invest of my new idea for a line of necklaces called the Mandela collection? They will be tiny tires, what better way to commemorate Saint Firestone?

[wasp69]

Yeah, there is a lot you don't know about someone but you choose to prejudge them just because they may happen to have different political views than you.

I swear, every time I read this, I get a taste in my mouth similar to chewing Reynolds Wrap.  Is this happening to anyone else?

[Pretzel Warrior]

I have registered at DU and tried to have a serious discussion on the issues. The moment it becomes evident that I am conservative I get the standard "enjoy your stay" message and then a tombstone. I, for one, appreciate that you came over here and maybe we can discuss our ideological differences. You have stepped in to the lion's den perhaps but that shows me you have more belief in your ideology than 99% of DU  who can not stand to have their beliefs challanged.

Thanks. I have definitely spent time on other boards not focused on politics but did engage with conseratives on a number of topics. I can handle the fact that not everyone agrees with my own worldview, and I have my strong reasons for why I believe the way I do shaped by experience and seeing the world.  Obviously, there is a positive creative tension in the U.S. between free market, property rights, indivualism POV and shared destiny, national unity, social welfare side of things.

[NHSparky]

I swear, every time I read this, I get a taste in my mouth similar to chewing Reynolds Wrap.  Is this happening to anyone else?

Actually, it was more like someone taking a Dremel tool to my teeth.  Close, though.

[Pretzel Warrior]

Don't forget they watch a comedy channel for the news, and I don't mean MSNBC.

I listen to NPR and BBC news. I can't stand any of the cable news outfits. I got rid of satellite and cable. Mostly get my news from my daily subscription to The Wall Street Journal along with Time magazine, The Atlantic, The Economist.

So I guess not all DU'ers fit your view.  But Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert are funny as hell, and I do watch some of their episodes online or the shorter clips via Mediaite that I see on DU.

[Freeper]

Thanks. I have definitely spent time on other boards not focused on politics but did engage with conseratives on a number of topics. I can handle the fact that not everyone agrees with my own worldview, and I have my strong reasons for why I believe the way I do shaped by experience and seeing the world.  Obviously, there is a positive creative tension in the U.S. between free market, property rights, indivualism POV and shared destiny, national unity, social welfare side of things.

I can handle that some people are communists, socialists, or progressives. What I can't handle is the damage you fruit loops are doing to this country.

[NHSparky]

Thanks. I have definitely spent time on other boards not focused on politics but did engage with conseratives on a number of topics. I can handle the fact that not everyone agrees with my own worldview, and I have my strong reasons for why I believe the way I do shaped by experience and seeing the world.  Obviously, there is a positive creative tension in the U.S. between free market, property rights, indivualism POV and shared destiny, national unity, social welfare side of things.

Bitch, please.  Don't try to play the "I'm just trying to be the voice of reason" card, scooter.

With the bullshit you've pulled (KKK reference, etc.,) so far, you've no intention of playing nice.  Don't shit on the carpet then complain that our house is a mess, mkay?

And IIRC, you've still to refute the charge that Mandela was a communist who associated with, if not was himself a terrorist.  Care to address that?

No, scooter--lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.  You are just as batshit crazy as those from whom you refuse to distance yourself.

[Pretzel Warrior]

All DUmmies fit my stereotype, they are all leftist assholes who want to transform this country into something the founders would have killed or died to keep from happening.

What is your personal opinion on how the Founders would have felt about nuclear power, space travel, the internet, embryonic stem cell research, and genetic modification of food?  Since you seem to have a line directly into what exactly the Founders would have felt acceptable and unacceptable about our modern society.

[NHSparky]

What is your personal opinion on how the Founders would have felt about nuclear power, space travel, the internet, embryonic stem cell research, and genetic modification of food?  Since you seem to have a line directly into what exactly the Founders would have felt acceptable and unacceptable about our modern society.

Wow, strawman much?

[wasp69]

Also, other than some lame "he was a COMMUNIST" no one has put up much of a defense as to why a man viewed right up there with Gandhi, MLK, and Jesus Christ in his graceful conduct has to be assailed by conservatives here and on other sites.

Two things:

1.  Yes, we have.  You chose to plug your ears and "lalalalalala".

2.  Ghandi, MLK, and Jesus never advocated indiscriminate bombing to advance their causes nor did they cavort with mass murderers.

[NHSparky]

Two things:

1.  Yes, we have.  You chose to plug your ears and "lalalalalala".

2.  Ghandi, MLK, and Jesus never advocated indiscriminate bombing to advance their causes nor did they cavort with mass murderers.

You forgot that none of the three ever got arrested with a massive cache of weapons.

[HawkHogan]

What is your personal opinion on how the Founders would have felt about nuclear power, space travel, the internet, embryonic stem cell research, and genetic modification of food?  Since you seem to have a line directly into what exactly the Founders would have felt acceptable and unacceptable about our modern society.

You can use the Constitution to interpret any of those matters.

The problem arises when liberals argue that the Constitution is a "living, breathing" document and invent fake rights like the right to murder an unborn baby. 

[Freeper]

What is your personal opinion on how the Founders would have felt about nuclear power, space travel, the internet, embryonic stem cell research, and genetic modification of food?  Since you seem to have a line directly into what exactly the Founders would have felt acceptable and unacceptable about our modern society.

I don't have a direct line, but it's pretty clear they had no desire for a massive federal government that would decide for us all what kind of health insurance we need. They would have no desire for massive taxation and Ponzi schemes such as social security and Obamacare. They would probably be all for nuclear power, space travel and so forth in the private sector. Genetic modification of food is nothing new, it used to be done on the farm, now it's done in a lab. They sure as hell wouldn't be telling us to ignore the voices who warn of tyranny.

[Pretzel Warrior]

Bitch, please.  Don't try to play the "I'm just trying to be the voice of reason" card, scooter.

With the bullshit you've pulled (KKK reference, etc.,) so far, you've no intention of playing nice.  Don't shit on the carpet then complain that our house is a mess, mkay?

And IIRC, you've still to refute the charge that Mandela was a communist who associated with, if not was himself a terrorist.  Care to address that?

No, scooter--lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.  You are just as batshit crazy as those from whom you refuse to distance yourself.

People will be judged by their own actions. I willingly own that I called you guys konservative kave kids because it is funny. I only did so after reading your "child molester" shit you were writing about me long before I came back onto your discussion board. Your site has a pretty good search function also.

I have refuted that Mandela was a communist. I also had no problem with the fact that he and his group were looking at gaining their political voice through more violent means since the corrupt and unjust apartheid government had stripped away the rights of the African majority to representation. No votes. Second class status in the country. Nonviolence had been tried for years and didn't work. Mandela was not, himself, invovled in those actions. Perhaps in retrospect his almost THIRTY YEARS IN PRISON were a blessing in that respect because he was confined and not out on the streets fighting the fight.

What you have failed to do is show how even his tangential connection to the more violent aspects of the ANC take away in any large measure what it was he accomplished in bringing about a peaceful transition of power as the first democratically elected leader of South Africa with virtually no vengeance and retribution occurring black on white. He accomplished much and his duly honored worldwide for his efforts.  Only very bitter and narrow minded people would see it differently.

[wasp69]

You forgot that none of the three ever got arrested with a massive cache of weapons.

Or had a Lithuanian born communist, that liked to blow up civilians, as their right hand man.