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Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« on: October 27, 2009, 10:33:07 AM »
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Gingrich calls GOP support for Hoffman a 'purge'
By Jordan Fabian - 10/27/09 09:47 AM ET
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) late Monday had some choice words for Republicans supporting Conservative Party party candidate Doug Hoffman (N.Y.), accusing them of conducting a "purge" of the GOP.

Many national Republican figures, such as Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.) and ex-Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska), have backed Hoffman over GOP candidate Dede Scozzafava in the 23rd district's special election this year. The district has been long-held by Republicans, but many conservatives have shied away from Scozzafava for her socially liberal positions and the local GOP's selection process that they say was not transparent.


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Gingrich also attacked Hoffman for not having proper knowledge of local issues and living outside the 23rd district.


"So I say to my many conservative friends who suddenly decided whether they're from Minnesota, or Alaska, or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don't think so," he added.


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Um, we NEED to purge Republicans who want to raise taxes and who are approved by Kos and ACORN.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 10:38:29 AM »
While all this bickering and backstabbing goes on, the Democrats gleefully watch the bloodletting and further plan the demise of this country.

Maybe that is what is supposed to happen. Maybe this country is supposed to fall in the toilet like a hanging turd.

The Republican party is no longer what it says it was. In their effort to appeal to everyone, they appeal to only those who somehow can't swap spit with the Dems but wind up getting screwed by them anyway.

Where's the freakin' leadership?

Steele, you've got your head up your ass.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 10:41:04 AM »
Newt just lost all of my support.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 10:49:24 AM »
Has anyone suggested Newt be checked for bleeding on the brain?  It can happen to anybody and the only evident symptom can be subtle irrationality.  
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 10:56:51 AM »
C'mon, Newt was as bad as any of them.  He talked a good game in 1994 with the Contract With America, but when he caved to Clinton's pressure during the fed shutdown, he showed his spine wasn't as much steel as Twinkies.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 10:57:12 AM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on October 27, 2009, 10:49:24 AM
Has anyone suggested Newt be checked for bleeding on the brain?  It can happen to anybody and the only evident symptom can be subtle irrationality.  

It's either that or recurring gas.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 10:59:44 AM »
This, "You need to support a person just because he has an R behind his or her name" is the reason the Republican party is full of RINOs. No one is keeping them in check. They vote for anyone with an R because people like Newt scare them to believe that if they don't, they'll essentially be giving the Dem the election.

I'm not a Republican, but damn that. I'd rather see a scorched Earth reboot than participate in moving this country further and further to the left. It's 1 step forward, 2 steps back as it stands now. If liberal Republicans want to be liberals, they need to join a damn liberal party. This is why I'm not a member of any party.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 11:00:21 AM »
Hey Newt!  It is a purge, and a much-need and long overdue one at that!

I won't purport to know more about local politics than upstate New York conservatives, but...uh...you certainly are...

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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 11:07:12 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on October 27, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
C'mon, Newt was as bad as any of them.  He talked a good game in 1994 with the Contract With America, but when he caved to Clinton's pressure during the fed shutdown, he showed his spine wasn't as much steel as Twinkies.

I agree.  Newt was never a prize.  But it seems he is more irrational now.  He's "statements" don't just go against the grain - the are downright odd.  Even for him.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 11:08:18 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on October 27, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
C'mon, Newt was as bad as any of them.  He talked a good game in 1994 with the Contract With America, but when he caved to Clinton's pressure during the fed shutdown, he showed his spine wasn't as much steel as Twinkies.

He grossly overplayed his hand then, and his judgment hasn't imporved since.  He is intellectually smart, but has a record for poor political judgment, because he also thinks he is very intellectually smart and it makes him an arrogant bloviator.  And I'm pretty sure my opinion of his smarts is not nearly as high as his own opinion of his smarts.

Really he was sort of a GOP counterpart to San Fran Nan, reflecting the peculiarities of the House...you really only have to understand your own district and keep getting re-elected long enough to become so senior that you have committee appointments that bring home the bacon, after that your further re-election is assured until you decide to retire.  At some point you will be so senior that if your party ever gets into power again, you will be a leading candidate for Speaker.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 11:12:37 AM »
Newt got that old-timers disease?







I think this just shows how outaa touch with "real people" the Repubs are....
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 11:24:47 AM »
This discussion about Newt, San Fran Nan, and the Speaker of the House gig reminds me of Gerald Ford.

All he ever wanted to be was Speaker. And he became president due to Nixon's downfall, the only president not to have been elected to that office.

Say whatcha want about Gerry Ford - he wasn't as klutzy as the media made him out to be, and he wasn't an idiot, either. Or a whacko.

He took a stand that cost him being elected in his own right - pardoning Nixon of any illegalities he might've had committed.

While doing so was political suicide, the fact he did it and did so gracefully, after suitable contemplation, speaks well of him, I think.

When did the Speaker gig turn ugly? Tip O'Neill? Maybe - he and Reagan went round and round, though they were buddies in real life, IIRC. Jim Wright? Yeah, there's an ethics scandal right there.

Tom Foley? Again, if I recall, he lost his Speaker gig when he lost his representative election. How dumb is that?

Maybe Ford was the last, real, Speaker-who-never-was.  :clueless:
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 12:24:11 PM »
Purging is medically indicated when ingesting poison.

Break-out the activated charcoal powder and stomach pump. It won't be pleasant but it may be the only way to save our lives.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 01:10:37 PM »
Purge. Putsch. Coup. Whatever Newt wants to call it is fine with me. And it's LONG overdue.

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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 01:21:00 PM »
Quote from: ColonialMarine0431 on October 27, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
Purge. Putsch. Coup. Whatever Newt wants to call it is fine with me. And it's LONG overdue.



I'm gonna need to find that one.

I'm not a bumper sticker kinda guy, but I'll put that on the ol' truck for sure.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 01:30:57 PM »
Chump, I came across that on a blog http://blogs.rep-am.com/worth_reading/?tag=government-spending but I haven't seen any for sale yet.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 03:30:05 PM »
Purging Repubs and Democrats is exactly what we need. Sooner the better or this country will not be fit to live in.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 07:18:36 PM »
Hey Newt...  A full purge is exactly what real conservatives need to do with the GOP.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 07:30:26 PM »
Quote from: bkg on October 27, 2009, 10:41:04 AM
Newt just lost all of my support.
He lost mine a long time ago.

He's like one of these tragi-comic anti-heroes who is in love with his own intellect but his intellect is unfaithful to him and leads him to be unfaithful to everyone around him, wives, constituents, fans, etc.

From marital infidelity to "green conservatism" to sitting on a couch with "Stretch" Pelosi to this thing in New York.  It is one pratfall after the next with only those he is responsible to taking the hit.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 08:13:53 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on October 27, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
This, "You need to support a person just because he has an R behind his or her name" is the reason the Republican party is full of RINOs. No one is keeping them in check. They vote for anyone with an R because people like Newt scare them to believe that if they don't, they'll essentially be giving the Dem the election.

I'm not a Republican, but damn that. I'd rather see a scorched Earth reboot than participate in moving this country further and further to the left. It's 1 step forward, 2 steps back as it stands now. If liberal Republicans want to be liberals, they need to join a damn liberal party. This is why I'm not a member of any party.

IMHO these are probably bandwagon riders who switched to R during the Reagan Revolution to ensure they kept getting elected...but never gave up their Lib underpinnings.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »
Newt is more concerned with his books and his tv face-time then he is with winning conservative seats.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2009, 08:57:10 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on October 27, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
IMHO these are probably bandwagon riders who switched to R during the Reagan Revolution to ensure they kept getting elected...but never gave up their Lib underpinnings.

I won't argue against that.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2009, 11:05:23 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on October 27, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
IMHO these are probably bandwagon riders who switched to R during the Reagan Revolution to ensure they kept getting elected...but never gave up their Lib underpinnings.

Hell, we don't even have to go back as far as Reagan.  Just in the the aftermath of the 1994 liberal slapdown, we saw a couple of senators and a whole piss pot full of "moderate demonrat" congress critters change their registered affiliation in order to stay on the power band wagon.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2009, 11:15:44 PM »
I would like to see Palin as a catalyst for a third party, and I think she might be the person to pull it off.  Look at the effect she's had on Hoffman's campaign; he's now leading the other two candidates by double digits and the DNCC is sending out emails pleading for money.

I suppose a shift in the Republican Party may be too much to ask.  I could accept Steele's endorsement of Scozzafava... it is his job to support Republicans and not independent candidates.  The  moderate don't like Palin and the post-campaign trash talk from McCain's staffers makes that obvious enough.  I'm ready to wash my hands of the GOP... I have no use for them.
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Re: Gingrich: Support for Hoffman a "Purge"
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2009, 07:05:50 AM »
Quote from: Chris on October 27, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
I could accept Steele's endorsement of Scozzafava... it is his job to support Republicans and not independent candidates.

A problem I have is that the GOP is spending money on attacking Hoffman.
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