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Offline Peter3_1

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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2009, 02:16:12 PM »
I understand we're up to 33 Czars and no oversight at $150,000 each PLUS staffs of 10. Can you say $4.9 MILLION AND COUNTING?  BUT, WHAT THE HELL, IT IS ONLY OUR MONEY....
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2009, 04:08:02 PM »
Quote from: Peter3_1 on July 09, 2009, 02:16:12 PM
I understand we're up to 33 Czars and no oversight at $150,000 each PLUS staffs of 10. Can you say $4.9 MILLION AND COUNTING?  BUT, WHAT THE HELL, IT IS ONLY OUR MONEY....

I think it is 17. The scary one is the Health Care Czar that will dictate to the states all Federal Health Care programs. .
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2009, 04:20:36 PM »
-8?!!!!   Damn skippy, the dude is in free fall right now.

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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2009, 06:31:08 PM »
Go Barry go! I want to hear much more from you about buying up the private sector, taking over healthcare and climate change programs!...take no prisoners! Keep on talking baby! 
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #104 on: July 09, 2009, 06:46:30 PM »
He dropped 3 points since yestersay....
He was at -5% today -8%.....

People are starting to see what he has done and is doing..."HOPE" it's not to late for some more "CHANGE".....
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #105 on: July 09, 2009, 08:24:29 PM »
It came to me today, how to describe Mr. Obama,,,,,......he's EDDIE HASKELL times ten!!!!!! :thatsright:
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #106 on: July 10, 2009, 11:01:56 AM »
Quote from: Peter3_1 on July 09, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
It came to me today, how to describe Mr. Obama,,,,,......he's EDDIE HASKELL times ten!!!!!! :thatsright:

Oh, I think Eddie had a LOT more charm than Lord Zero.

"My, Mrs. Cleaver! Your hair looks lovely today! And your dress makes your waistline look so small!"

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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #107 on: July 10, 2009, 11:59:41 AM »
^^^^ True.  Eddie Haskell knew what the H*ll he was doing, although the grin is about the same.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #108 on: July 10, 2009, 01:44:48 PM »
So it's holding at  -8 today? Axelrod better phone in Gallup and CNN or MSNBC and cook another poll fast.

Quote from: Peter3_1 on July 09, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
It came to me today, how to describe Mr. Obama,,,,,......he's EDDIE HASKELL times ten!!!!!! :thatsright:

I have heard the tax cheat Timothy Geithner compared to Eddie the most - he looks like Eddie would if he were all grown-up.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #109 on: July 10, 2009, 02:15:05 PM »
Actually -7 today.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #110 on: July 10, 2009, 04:29:02 PM »
Quote from: Linda on July 09, 2009, 06:46:30 PM
He dropped 3 points since yestersay....
He was at -5% today -8%.....

People are starting to see what he has done and is doing..."HOPE" it's not to late for some more "CHANGE".....

Worrying about your job or finding a new one does not spring eternal hope. He is bringing fear rather than hope; that kinda change will make his numbers go down further and further. The dummy should listen to the tax cutting crowd.   
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2009, 08:34:36 AM »


I'm thinking we may have seen the last of positive numbers for Lord Zero, unless there is a huge upswing in employment.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2009, 08:54:28 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 13, 2009, 08:34:36 AM


I'm thinking we may have seen the last of positive numbers for Lord Zero, unless there is a huge upswing in employment.

Well, eventually there will be, of course.  If he just stopped doing stupid things, that would undoubtedly happen long before the 2012 campaign, I expect the Dems are counting on that and discounting (or entirely wrong about) the countervailing negative effects of their social/fiscal agenda.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2009, 10:06:01 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on July 13, 2009, 08:34:36 AM


I'm thinking we may have seen the last of positive numbers for Lord Zero, unless there is a huge upswing in employment.

The upswing in employment is an impossibility as long as there is an uncertainty regarding tax hikes by the Feds, States and cities. Expansion and new business start ups will not happen until the busines climate changes. Obama's and the Democrats anti-business policies are the opposite of what needs to be done, and that is the reducing in taxes. These fools do not get it. So we will be in a period of economic stagnation and rising unemployment for the rest of this year and who knows afterwards.


 
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2009, 10:17:44 AM »
Quote from: Lacarnut on July 13, 2009, 10:06:01 AM
The upswing in employment is an impossibility as long as there is an uncertainty regarding tax hikes by the Feds, States and cities. Expansion and new business start ups will not happen until the busines climate changes. Obama's and the Democrats anti-business policies are the opposite of what needs to be done, and that is the reducing in taxes. These fools do not get it. So we will be in a period of economic stagnation and rising unemployment for the rest of this year and who knows afterwards.

My employer was consider expanding , but that is on hold for just those those reasons.  Illinois is also looking at raising taxes, and who knows what the fed is going to end up doing.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #115 on: July 14, 2009, 07:56:49 AM »
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Obama Approval Rating Slips to 57 Percent

CBS News Poll: President Loses Support Amid Concerns About Economy; Loss In Backing Comes From Democrats And Independents

(CBS)  President Obama's approval rating has fallen six points in the past month, a new CBS News poll finds, amid growing skepticism about his handling of the economy and questions about the impact of the stimulus package.

The president's current approval rating, which is 57 percent, is still relatively high. But it has fallen 11 points from its peak of 68 percent in April, and has also dropped since last month's mark of 63 percent. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, has risen from 23 percent in April to 32 percent today.

The decline in support is coming not from Republicans - whose support for the president has actually risen - but from Democrats and independents. While 82 percent of Democrats still approve of the job Mr. Obama is doing, this number is down ten points from last month.

The president's support among independents has fallen eight points to 50 percent. Only 30 percent of Republicans back Mr. Obama, though that's up from 23 percent in June.

The driving issue behind the president’s decline in approval appears to be the economy. His approval rating on handling the economy is now 48 percent, while 44 percent disapprove. Last month, Americans approved of his handling of this issue by a margin of 22 points.


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You know it's bad for Uncle Zer0 when even CBS reports this.  Without the spin, he's in the tank.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #116 on: July 14, 2009, 08:12:18 AM »
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Only 30 percent of Republicans back Mr. Obama, though that's up from 23 percent in June.


I am not a Republican, but I utterly fail to understand how ANY Republican - RINO or otherwise - can actually line up behind Lord Zero in support.

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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #117 on: July 14, 2009, 08:13:33 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on July 14, 2009, 08:12:18 AM


I am not a Republican, but I utterly fail to understand how ANY Republican - RINO or otherwise - can actually line up behind Lord Zero in support.



And I'd love to know what he did in the last month to garner ANY additional support from anyone, most of all those who claim to be Republicans.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #118 on: July 14, 2009, 08:15:33 AM »
Here's what I'm having a hard time fathoming.  If you look at Rasmussen, he's had a 30+ point swing since the inauguration, yet his approval rating according to Gallup has only dropped 10-12 points?

Color me skeptical.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #119 on: July 14, 2009, 08:36:07 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on July 14, 2009, 08:15:33 AM
Here's what I'm having a hard time fathoming.  If you look at Rasmussen, he's had a 30+ point swing since the inauguration, yet his approval rating according to Gallup has only dropped 10-12 points?

Color me skeptical.

It's been a long time since I've looked at this, but Gallup has (or did have) a pretty solid reputation. Their polls are statistically sound.

To me, Rasmussen is the new boy on the block. I don't know much about their rep.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #120 on: July 14, 2009, 08:46:05 AM »
Rasmussen is credible, and the only one I will give notice to.  Not a big fan of polls. 
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #121 on: July 14, 2009, 10:13:17 AM »
Still at -8.  The strongly disapprove has taken a dip, but so has the strongly approve, and I'm guessing the latter is the one which won't be recovering anytime soon.  The disapproval, however, will climb as long as the Dems keep banging on the dual drums of cap and trade and healthcare "reform".
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2009, 11:11:04 AM »
I don't trust the polls because a pollster can skew the results by asking slanted questions, a biased interviewer or the pool of voters contacted.
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2009, 11:15:31 AM »
Quote from: Lacarnut on July 14, 2009, 11:11:04 AM
I don't trust the polls because a pollster can skew the results by asking slanted questions, a biased interviewer or the pool of voters contacted.

That's true of any data/sample that's assembled, analyzed, and reported from a general population. Certain inferences and generalities have to be present, which is why the pollster allows "plus or minus X" for results.

Polls are a useful method of gauging general trends from within a larger population. They aren't the be-all, end-all, but it's awfully tough to discount polls at large because of possible data "skewing."
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Re: Daily Presidential Approval Index
« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2009, 01:39:03 PM »
Check out the SeeBS pdf file, they overpoll Democrats and Independents - worse yet, they then "weigh" them:

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_Obama_071309.pdf?tag=contentMain;contentBody


Quote from: NHSparky on July 14, 2009, 10:13:17 AM
Still at -8.  The strongly disapprove has taken a dip, but so has the strongly approve, and I'm guessing the latter is the one which won't be recovering anytime soon.  The disapproval, however, will climb as long as the Dems keep banging on the dual drums of cap and trade and healthcare "reform".

What's new to me are these "strongly oppose/strongly support" numbers being the focal point. It's a gauge of polarization, IMO. Still, I wonder when it will hit  -10, double-digits, just that it will, for the reasons you stated and the economy and FP. Obama sauid today that unemployment will rise and that they're considering "relief" for the unemployed with mortgages.
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