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Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« on: September 03, 2008, 04:10:47 PM »
It's getting pretty cowded under the bus...

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beachmom  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-03-08 04:43 PM
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Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus Thursday. Frankly, we deserve it.
 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6904908

Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:44 PM by beachmom
This is a must read post by Al Giordano:

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/dont-blow-it-...


Don't Blow It, Netroots Bloggers

Marc Ambinder, blogger-journalist for The Atlantic, asks aloud:


Does the McCain campaign think that their ticket can win if they go to war with the press 60 days out?


The answer is, most definitively, yes.

And the question reveals the very hubris on the part of so much of the media that makes such a war an irresistible and smart gambit by the McCain-Palin campaign.

What members of the national media don't understand - what they have never understood - is why "running against the media" is such a good strategy.

Most members of the commercial media don't want to face what everybody else knows - that as institutions go, that of "the media" is as hated or more so than George W. Bush and the US Congress.

Unfortunately, in recent days, too many bloggers and their commenters have forgotten that truth, too.

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It's about the "unvetted diaries," stupid.

Netroots and pro-Democratic party blogs have become the staging areas for "unvetted diaries" - some planted, no doubt, by covert McCain backers, others as sincere as they are imbecilic - that screech about McCain not vetting his vice presidential pick while behaving just as irresponsibly as their target. Too many bloggers and their commenters have jumped on rumors - about pregnancies and other matters - that turned out to be false, and have harmed the messengers' own credibility by stating them as fact.

And in cases where the front-page bloggers at websites did not engage in such boneheaded activity, but their rank-and-file diarists or commenters did, we who run our blogs have a special responsibility to step in and put things right again.

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If anyone in the Netroots wants to complain now that Obama has chosen to go on Bill O'Reilly's Fox News program on Thursday, they need only look in the mirror to find the culprit. It was the excesses in the blogsophere that forced him into it. The whole point of appearing with the Netroots-obsessed-and-hating O'Reilly is to invite the question: "Senator, what do you think of what those blogs wrote about Palin and her family? Do you reject and denounce them?" And Obama will smack down the perps so cleanly that even O'Reilly will have to cheer. And that smackdown will hit all of us, even those that didn't take the bait and don't engage in making such unvetted claims.

I will be among those that receives the smackdown applauding, and who will lend a helping hand to spread the smackdown to those that whine or portray themselves as victims because of it. And I invite you to join in that as a group effort to support from below what Obama must now say and do from above.


Go to the link to read the whole thing.


 Yeah...it's the VRWC bloggers doing it all...

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ingac70  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:45 PM
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3. He can smack me down...
 he still has my vote...

I'm still gonna dog the shit out of Palin for the type of mother she is, because if she had it her way, motherhood could be forced on me.

That's because you are a brood cow...

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kineta  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:48 PM
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10. I was PROUD of DU last week. We helped get the media do its job
 Yay us! 


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NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:50 PM
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18. it got the MSM to pay attention. I have NO PROBLEM digging the dirt for my candidate
 I feel like an unpaid operative

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cwydro  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-03-08 04:52 PM
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25. I agree with you.
 We've got a lot of bottom feeders here and they do not help Obama in any way, despite their protestations to the contrary.

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iamthebandfanman  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:49 PM
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14. yup!
 Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:49 PM by iamthebandfanman
the way i see it, its kinda our responsibilty to do the digging...
i mean, logically, if we get mud on our face no harm no foul... its if he obama does that matters...

we just gotta be careful while doing our digging as to not make it a view of all obama supporters or the campaign... even tho i think thats clear already but the MSM and right wingers are trying to make it the opposite



That should be the headline across every VRWC blog.

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samdogmom  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-03-08 04:47 PM
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7. Huhhh???
 I quote:

"Too many bloggers and their commenters have jumped on rumors - about pregnancies and other matters - that turned out to be false, and have harmed the messengers' own credibility by stating them as fact."


UMMMMM, I think the pregnancy rumor turned out to be 1/2 right now...the rest is coming.....

1/2 right would be wrong.

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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-03-08 04:56 PM
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37. So? Michelle Malkin and Red State and Free Republic make up smears
 all the time that have NO basis in truth. And they work. Why, when the Republicans already have the media advantage because of RW talk radio all across the country, would we cede the INTERNET to them as well? We'd have no HOPE of winning.


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ProSense  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:57 PM
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38. This sort of makes no sense. 
 Obama says what he says, it has nothing to do with people's opinions.

Does everyone realize that this entire episode is backfiring on McCain?

McCain is pushing the Palin pregnancy story and most people aren't buying it in terms of focusing on Palin's daughter. The focus has been on Palin's judgment, and as a result the McCain campaign is now whining to the media.

They're trying to pretend they're a well-oiled machine when, in fact, the McCain campaign is a train wreck.

You wanna see the trainwreck? read the next post:

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AndyA  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:57 PM
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39. Oh bullshit.
 I'm so f*ckin' sick and tired of Democrats tippie toeing around, afraid of stepping on some Republican's toes or offending them with THE TRUTH!

Meanwhile, the Republicans are the ones who are truly offensive. They start wars based on lies. They spy on us. Out covert CIA agents. Award huge no-bid contracts to their cronies, and then don't even require that the work is done. They tell US how we are supposed to live OUR LIVES so we don't offend THEIR LIVES. Yet their rules only apply to us, not to themselves.

They destroy our economy, take away our good reputation in the world, allow our troops to die because they don't have the proper equipment and transportation, provide third rate health care to veterans who return injured, and allow millions of Americans to live without any health care at all.

They want to tell us our daughters must have children, even if they're violently raped. They're selling off our country's assets like a pimp sells a whore in a dark alley. They condemn us for what we do, yet sneak around and do even worse things.

To me, that's pretty damn OFFENSIVE!

And now we're supposed to shut up and back off and let them steal another election, place an old man with a history of cancer and serious temperament issues in the White House, to be backed up by a woman with little experience in foreign affairs? A woman that was quite obviously NOT VETTED PROPERLY, and offered the job under suspicious circumstances.

I don't think so. We can't chance another 4 years of this crap. I'll work hard to get Obama elected, I'll donate money when I can. But now is not the time for us to shut up and be good little sheeple, even if Barack thinks we should.

We've had ENOUGH!


 
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endthewar (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 05:00 PM
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50. O'Reilly will force Obama to reject and denounce dailykos and perhaps huffingtonpost
 O'Reilly hates both of those websites with a passion and will put this topic right up there with the two wars and the economy.


maybe if you scream loudly and hold your breath, they'll mention DU.

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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 04:18:41 PM »
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endthewar (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 05:00 PM
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50. O'Reilly will force Obama to reject and denounce dailykos



Do you think anyone will believe him?
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 04:19:39 PM »
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ingac70  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:45 PM
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3. He can smack me down...
 he still has my vote...

I'm still gonna dog the shit out of Palin for the type of mother she is, because if she had it her way, motherhood could be forced on me.

The same way you would have to force any man on earth to have sex with you.  Most of the wemyn complaining couldn't get laid in a men's prison.
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 04:20:25 PM »
You know he will.....but will he throw the propaganda wing of the DNC (MSM) under the bus?


My guess is not yet.
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 04:26:46 PM »
Quote from: Chris on September 03, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
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endthewar (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 05:00 PM
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50. O'Reilly will force Obama to reject and denounce dailykos



Do you think anyone will believe him?


     Obama will say something like, "While I denounce and disapprove of any internet rumors that attack any politician or his or her family, I can't control any of the things that are written in the vast freedom of the Internet. Likewise, John McCain can't control what is said on talk radio, even though many of these things are said to his benefit. These rumors about Candidate Palin remind me of the many false rumors that surround some of the people I've known for years..."

     In other words, he'll denounce the practice of the smear, but he won't specifically denounce any particular smear. He'll swing the question around to answer it as though he was the one getting smeared, and Bill O'Reilly will be so doe-eyed and moist from sitting in his own seminal fluid that he won't see the wax-job.

     Prepare to be VERY disappointed by Bill O'Reilly. Prepare for Obama to have been given the questions in advance. Prepare for Obama to mangle questions until he looks like the victim.
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 04:28:09 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on September 03, 2008, 04:19:39 PM
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ingac70  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:45 PM
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3. He can smack me down...
 he still has my vote...

I'm still gonna dog the shit out of Palin for the type of mother she is, because if she had it her way, motherhood could be forced on me.

The same way you would have to force any man on earth to have sex with you.  Most of the wemyn complaining couldn't get laid in a men's prison.

Any self-respecting man would committ suicide beofre having sex with ingac70.  Matter of fact, if it were the last thing with a vagina on the planet, and I were the last man on the planet, and we were charged with repopulating the planet, I'd let the human species become extinct first.
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 04:40:28 PM »
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And I invite you to join in that as a group effort to support from below what Obama must now say and do from above.
As hopelessly stupid as they are, the DUmmies still understand that any denunciation of their slanders from B. Hussen will come with a wink.

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Prepare to be VERY disappointed by Bill O'Reilly.

Roger that. Bill O'Reilly is a friend of no one but Bill O'Reilly. Nothing matters if it does not feed his massive, ever-expanding ego.

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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 05:41:52 PM »

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ingac70  (1000+ posts)       Wed Sep-03-08 04:45 PM
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3. He can smack me down...
 he still has my vote...

I'm still gonna dog the shit out of Palin for the type of mother she is, because if she had it her way, motherhood could be forced on me.

Sounds like she has a case of 'beaten wife syndrome' to me. "Oh please Barky, slap me around some more, I know its because you love me."
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 05:53:07 PM »

Go forth mah minyunz!

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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 06:10:33 PM »
Quote from: BadCat on September 03, 2008, 06:06:48 PM
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I'm still gonna dog the shit out of Palin for the type of mother she is, because if she had it her way, motherhood could be forced on me.

What?
You don't have a coat hanger and a vacuum cleaner?

Interesting that they equate their excessive promiscuity to "motherhood [being] forced on me"
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 06:19:13 PM »


Roger that. Bill O'Reilly is a friend of no one but Bill O'Reilly. Nothing matters if it does not feed his massive, ever-expanding ego.

Think of Bill O"Reilly has Ted Knight out of the old Mary Tyler Moore show...........I LMAO  :hyper:
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2008, 06:21:26 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on September 03, 2008, 05:53:07 PM

Go forth mah minyunz!

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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2008, 06:31:36 PM »
I'm so stealing that picture!
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Re: Warning: Obama is going to throw the liberal blogs under the bus
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2008, 07:12:16 PM »

I am so resisting temptation to do very bad things to this image.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 07:56:36 PM »
Oh well, I tried to resist, but I achieved fail.  :-)
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