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Offline landofconfusion80

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DU discusses jobs
« on: January 07, 2022, 05:26:26 PM »
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IMO why people aren't in the labor force [View all]
1. The 60+ (and younger) got kicked to the curb, and even if McDs and the rest are now mostly offering $15 a month, is it worth it to do an erratic shift, versus getting SS at 62?

2. The new Federal retirement system (FERS) encourages people to retire at 56. THEN removes the FERS supplement at age 62...

3. On the other end of the spectrum, menial- wage graduates may have chosen to become more schooled (as I did).

4 . That's on top of who can't find child care (short of paying and being taxed 110% for it).
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3. Women are burned out.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/19/great-resignation-mothers-forced-to-leave-jobs

"The fact of the matter is that when we speak of the Great Resignation, we are really referring to a great resignation of women. During the pandemic, women have exited the labor force at twice the rate that men have; their participation in the paid labor force is now the lowest it has been in more than 30 years. About one-third of all mothers in the workforce have scaled back or left their jobs since March 2020."

"Why are women leaving the workforce at such a disproportionate rate? It’s not because they have been on personal journeys of soul-searching and self-discovery. It’s because they have nowhere to put their kids. Schools were closed for much of two straight school years; many still face interruptions, quarantines and closures."

"The trend of women leaving the workforce to care for their children has often been explained as a matter of women’s personal choices. But to the women facing the stark financial reality that they can’t afford both their own professional ambitions and to meet the needs of their kids, it doesn’t feel like much of a choice at all. It feels like their options have been narrowed so much that the choice has been made for them."

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4. My job was hurting me and I am grateful to have quit
I think your points are exactly right.

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9. Mine too.
3 doctors made me quit due to the ongoing problems with the environment and stress. I was able to get early retirement (sort of like SSI).




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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2022, 05:28:36 PM »
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IMO why people aren't in the labor force [View all]
1. The 60+ (and younger) got kicked to the curb, and even if McDs and the rest are now mostly offering $15 a month

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2022, 05:32:07 PM »
Math is not nitpicker's friend.
Math, amongst many other things, lol
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2022, 05:33:46 PM »
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3. On the other end of the spectrum, menial- wage graduates may have chosen to become more schooled (as I did).

more schooled in what?  wymin's studies with a minor in lesbian basket weaving?

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4. My job was hurting me and I am grateful to have quit

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64.I'd almost be willing to get a job in order to participate in
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2022, 05:51:14 PM »
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IMO why people aren't in the labor force [View all]
1. The 60+ (and younger) got kicked to the curb, and even if McDs and the rest are now mostly offering $15 a month, is it worth it to do an erratic shift, versus getting SS at 62?

* How in Hades does a 60+YO manage to avoid education and work experience to the degree that they have to look at jobs suitable for a zero-experience, minimal education 16YO?

* My most recent job search - which was pre-Covid by several years - was at age >60 ... and successful.
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2022, 06:52:19 PM »
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9. Mine too.
3 doctors made me quit due to the ongoing problems with the environment and stress. I was able to get early retirement (sort of like SSI).

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2022, 07:14:15 PM »
* How in Hades does a 60+YO manage to avoid education and work experience to the degree that they have to look at jobs suitable for a zero-experience, minimal education 16YO?

why do you think we call then DUmmies?
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2022, 07:25:43 PM »
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IMO why people aren't in the labor force [View all]
1. The 60+ (and younger) got kicked to the curb, and even if McDs and the rest are now mostly offering $15 a month

Math is not nitpicker's friend.

 :rotf: and :hi5: ! I missed that one, :cheersmate: .
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2022, 07:36:34 PM »
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4. My job was hurting me and I am grateful to have quit

Yeah I'll bet your former employer is grateful you had to quit as well. That way they can fill the position with an actuall useful person for the work you were most likely crap at.
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2022, 08:26:13 PM »
These winners sounds like model employees:

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1. Maybe they don't need to be

Work can be really difficult. I mean, I could if I really wanted to but free wifi isn't hard to find and it's always easy to find a couch to surf on. My serious PTSD from my last job makes it hard to want to look for another. The last boss I had yelled at me and I cried in the bathroom afterwards. Nobody should be under that much stress. I love myself for who I am and I don't need some useless job to define who I am

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7. I have diagnosed PTSD from job stress
 
Interesting to hear others do, too.

I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm trying to get SSDI. I'm 56 


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12. We are all broken people

It's good to know that there are so many like minded people here. My family keeps pressuring me to get a job, but it's just not for me. My parents watch the kids alot but they still complain about me not doing better. I like what I am doing and don't see any reason to change. I don't see why this country emphasizes work and jobs so much....

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14. Puritan work ethic

It's bullshit. I've been working ft since 1987.

The Italians have a phrase, The Sweetness of Doing Nothing. Can you try for SSDI? I'm awaiting my first turndown.


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15. I would like to

But my family refuses to let me use their address for anything. I'm on a friend's couch but they said yesterday that I have to pay for groceries or something and if I don't I need to go elsewhere. I thought they were better friends than they are behaving like

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16. See if you can talk to an SSDI attorney

First consultation is free. If you have medical records showing anxiety, depression, etc, you may be able to try to get on it.

PM me if you need to talk.

Take care. I'm sorry you have little support 

Can't tell if this is two moles being satirical or just typical DUmmy moochers.


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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2022, 09:10:26 PM »
These winners sounds like model employees:

Can't tell if this is two moles being satirical or just typical DUmmy moochers.

I'm going to go with your typical DUmbass, waste of skin, oxygen thieving, useless moochers.
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2022, 05:43:44 AM »
And the winner is:
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But my family refuses to let me use their address for anything. I'm on a friend's couch but they said yesterday that I have to pay for groceries or something and if I don't I need to go elsewhere. I thought they were better friends than they are behaving like

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2022, 06:53:11 AM »
And the winner is:
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That almost has to be a parody.
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2022, 10:38:38 AM »
Dumbass Duchebags, Jobs.

The thread is an unparalleled example of the stupid talking about something they are totally ignorant about.

When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2022, 03:22:10 PM »
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"The trend of women leaving the workforce to care for their children has often been explained as a matter of women’s personal choices. But to the women facing the stark financial reality that they can’t afford both their own professional ambitions and to meet the needs of their kids, it doesn’t feel like much of a choice at all.

99.9% of the time, having children is A CHOICE.  If a woman wants to be 100% like a guy then she should have her tubes tied.  Voila! Just like a guy! Even better as they will never be saddled with child support.

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2022, 03:53:00 PM »
Dumbass Duchebags, Jobs.

The thread is an unparalleled example of the stupid talking about something they are totally ignorant about.

Most of whom have never learned a thing about economics or common simple business sense.

An axiom that I refer to occasionally: Half of the population is dumber than average.  Thankfully most of them are of liberal/socialist/communist/Democrat persuasion.
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2022, 07:10:51 PM »
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9. Mine too.

3 doctors made me quit due to the ongoing problems with the environment and stress. I was able to get early retirement (sort of like SSI).
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10. Good for you

I hung at my super toxic ( both environmental and management, very chaotic with violence) until 2 doctors told me I was disabled and suggested SSDI. I stayed to vest in 5 years.

I just couldn't do it anymore.
These primitives want to work but their doctors are making them quit.  Twisting their arms and holding guns to their heads.

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2022, 08:35:42 PM »
DUmbass: "I quit because both management and the environment were toxic".

Reality: The management asked the DUmbass to get off their lazy ass and, when they didn't, they got fired.

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2022, 08:10:25 AM »
I suspect XanaDUer2's docs wanted to make sure she wouldn't work for them or any colleague, and BigPig threatened his docs with monthly "binding spells". :rotf:
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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2022, 09:34:53 AM »
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3. Women are burned out.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/19/great-resignation-mothers-forced-to-leave-jobs
"Why are women leaving the workforce at such a disproportionate rate? It’s not because they have been on personal journeys of soul-searching and self-discovery. It’s because they have nowhere to put their kids. Schools were closed for much of two straight school years; many still face interruptions, quarantines and closures."

Do you mean that closing down all of the schools because of a virus which has barely any impact on children had some bad effects? Say it ain't so.

Is somebody going to have a quiet word with the teachers' unions about this?

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Re: DU discusses jobs
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2022, 02:48:46 PM »
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4 . That's on top of who can't find child care (short of paying and being taxed 110% for it).

What the hell does that mean?  I work in a daycare center and we charge no tax.  Let alone at 110% of the bill. 

I thought Bigmanpigman was an "educator."  He was super whiny on the other thread.  What's he talking about here that two doctors made him quit? 

And Busterscruggs is exemplary as usual.   :lmao: