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California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/01/05/california-dem-flips-on-party-over-smash-and-grab-robbery-epidemic-n439555

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In 2014, California passed proposition 47, which made the theft of less than 950 dollars worth of merchandise only a misdemeanor. When combined with the state’s generous “bail reform” rules, this meant that anyone could walk into a store, grab nearly a thousand dollars worth of goods and bolt out of there. If they happened to somehow get caught, they would be back out on the street within hours to try again. In response, aspiring thieves accepted the invitation and began robbing retail outlets with abandon. Soon, organized groups figured out that if they entered a store in large numbers, one or two cops couldn’t stop them all even if they showed up promptly, so most of them would get away to sell their illicit merchandise. Now retail chains are moving out of the state because they can’t keep their shelves stocked and their insurance rates are too high for the stores to be profitable.

This has apparently reached the point where a straw has broken the camel’s back for one California Democrat. Assemblyman Rudy Salas has thrown in the towel and recognized that this crime wave can’t be allowed to continue. With that in mind, Salas introduced a new bill that would reverse proposition 47 and reset the threshold of misdemeanor theft to its previous level of $400. But will the rest of his party back him up? (Fox Business)

A Democratic California lawmaker introduced a bill that would reverse the state’s Proposition 47, which has been blamed for the rampant shoplifting and smash-and-grab crimes plaguing the state.

“Enough is enough, we need to fight back against the criminals who are stealing from our communities,” Democratic Assemblyman Rudy Salas said in a statement about the bill’s introduction Tuesday.

California’s Proposition 47 passed in 2014 and reduced shoplifting charges regarding the theft of $950 or less from felonies to misdemeanors. The new bill would lower the amount a suspect can steal before facing a felony to $400, which was the original threshold before Prop 47 passed.

Rudy Salas has flipped. A little too late.
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2022, 06:32:44 PM »
Nearly 8 years late. The consequences of Proposition 47 were so utterly predictable even I knew what would happen (and consequently voted against it).
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2022, 06:35:01 PM »
what's the saying...  "A conservative is a former liberal who has been mugged" or something along those lines

And for those who don't live in California, Prop 47 was listed on the ballot under the title of "Safe neighborhoods and schools Act"   

Pretty deceiving title when you consider it has done nothing to make our neighborhoods and schools safe, but the title of propositions that go on the ballots are the responsibility of the California Attorney General. 

Who was the California AG when Prop 47 was put on the ballot?   - kamala harris

Who was a co-author of prop 47?  Current Los Angeles District Attorney george gascon who is one of the new breed of DA's who refuse to charge many criminals with crimes and is subject to a recall effort due to his failure to protect the citizens he allegedly is sworn to serve.
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2022, 06:38:44 PM »
Nearly 8 years late. The consequences of Proposition 47 were so utterly predictable even I knew what would happen (and consequently voted against it).
liberal DA's like gascon are saying it works because crime statistics are down.

Well duh!  when you take what used to be a felony and classify it as a misdemeanor, then of course the crime statistics are going to show a decrease in felonies reported.  Add to that the fact that many businesses who are victims of shoplifting have stopped reporting the crimes to Law Enforcement because they know nothing will be done and you have the liberal hucksters crowing about how prop 47 has reduced the crime rate.
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2022, 07:44:51 PM »
what's the saying...  "A conservative is a former liberal who has been mugged" or something along those lines

And for those who don't live in California, Prop 47 was listed on the ballot under the title of "Safe neighborhoods and schools Act"   

Pretty deceiving title when you consider it has done nothing to make our neighborhoods and schools safe, but the title of propositions that go on the ballots are the responsibility of the California Attorney General. 

Who was the California AG when Prop 47 was put on the ballot?   - kamala harris

Who was a co-author of prop 47?  Current Los Angeles District Attorney george gascon who is one of the new breed of DA's who refuse to charge many criminals with crimes and is subject to a recall effort due to his failure to protect the citizens he allegedly is sworn to serve.

Little wonder that so many Californians are bailing out and heading toward saner pastures.
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2022, 01:44:59 AM »
If this is passed it won't do any good. The current crop of DAs in the cities where the smash and grabs are taking place will ignore the law and won't prosecute the criminals who do these things. The DNC politicians in this state pick and choose which laws to follow because they care more for the lawless than the law abiding.
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2022, 08:13:39 AM »
...The DNC politicians in this state pick and choose which laws to follow because they care more for the lawless than the law abiding.

"The Lawless": = A subset of which they themselves are a part, judging by their actions...
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Re: California Dem flips on party over smash and grab robbery epidemic
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2022, 08:15:30 AM »
"Jazz Shaw" made the point that the current situation in, e.g., SF or LA Counties, is a confluence of Prop 47, "bail reform" rules (not sure whether it's a law - and of so, passed by whom - or bureaucratic rules), and DAs not doing their jobs. As Z posted, changing just one of those big issues won't change the situation, and DAs not doing their jobs is probably the biggest issue among the three. The legislature can deal with (or set in motion dealing with ... undoing Prop 47 may require another proposition) the other two issues, but they cannot force DAs to do their jobs. Until the voters of LA County, SF County (IIRC, those aren't the only ones declining to prosecute all crimes regardless of the PC-hood of the perp) replace Gascon and Boudin with people willing to do the work of cleaning out their cities' and counties' Augean Stables of crime, their cities'/counties' situation won't change significantly.

In the cases of LA and SF Counties, a fourth major issue is their decades of treating The Homeless as Sacred. Those counties (SF is both a city and a county within the same boundaries) need to stop enabling their Sacred Homeless and make living in streets, under freeway overpasses, and in parks (and along park trails ... Knock! Knock! Hello, Santa Clara County?!!!) hard (the working currently-houseless are usually living in their cars, vans, and motor-homes, and thus are different from the druggies/alkies, mental cases, and responsibility-avoiders on the street).
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