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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 08, 2022, 08:46:25 AM
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Star Member NanceGreggs (26,703 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216225788
Be Careful What You Wish For
We've all heard you Republicans talk about seceding from the US (aka the blue states) and - as is always the case with Republicans - it's obvious you haven't thought this through.
After it's been established which states will be designated as MAGAland (you can always change the name later), those wanting to be citizens thereof will have to relocate - at your own expense, because the GOP politicians you'll be taking with you (sorry, non-negotiable) don't believe in citizens getting "free stuff".
That also means that all US-gov't programs - from social security to food stamps - will no longer be available to those who have chosen not to be US citizens. But you can always rely on your GOP leaders to raise taxes on the corporations in MAGAland to fund similar programs - in the same way they did back in the Good Ol' USA, when they handed out tax-breaks to the corporations that funded their elections.
On the plus side, you'll be free to run your own school boards, and I'm sure your kids will be adequately educated using the books you've chosen not to burn. You can also ban all restrictions on guns - which means you'll have a lot less students to educate anyway.
There are some institutions you'll have to establish right away - like functioning hospitals. Assuming you'll be doing away with masks and vaccines in MAGAland, you're going to need a lot of medical personnel to deal with all of those people dying of a hoax.
You'll also be running your own elections - which will never actually result in anyone assuming office, because the 'election fraud' lawsuits, audits, and re-audits will be ongoing long past your lifetime.
And speaking of lawsuits, have you thought about the caliber of judges and lawyers who will be rushing to settle in MAGAland? Do you really want Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani on your Supreme Court - because it's gonna be slim pickin's among those with suspended licenses and the disbarred.
But think of the personal freedoms MAGAland will offer! The freedom to die of a botched illegal abortion, the freedom to worship as you choose (as long as your choice is worshiping Trump), the freedom to believe in Jewish Laser Beams from Space, the freedom to eat potentially fatal uninspected food, the freedom to vote at the one-voting-ballot-box-per-million-people voting station, and the freedom to declare 'facts' unConstitutional.
It all sounds so idyllic, doesn't it? It almost makes me want to support your idea of leaving the USA. The progress we could make without your participation (i.e. interference) is an incredible enticement.
However, the fact is that if you really want to secede from our United States, you'll have to come up with the money to buy land elsewhere - because the ground you're standing on is ours, and always will be.
:yawn:
Star Member Roisin Ni Fiachra (1,879 posts)
9. I, for one, will welcome our new utopian blue state democratic society and state
after the fascists go to their self-created hell on earth.
Imagine a country where Brawndo swilling, Trump worshiping, Fox News parroting, lying sack of shit authoritarian conservative hypocritial idiocrats have no power whatsoever to obstruct human, social, scientific, environmental, and political evolution.
My Field of Dreams. If you build it, I will come.
Girard442 (5,386 posts)
12. Good luck trying to defend your new country...
...with nothing but a bunch of pudgy cosplayers with tricked out squirrel rifles.
:whatever:
Star Member onlyadream (2,079 posts)
17. My 22 yo son asked what life would have been like if we let the south go
Not good for people of color, though. But it would be interesting to know how it would have turned out.
:thatsright:
Star Member paleotn (11,879 posts)
24. Elections won't be a problem for the rulers of MAGAland, aka Jesusland
No more than they are for Vlad Putin. Most of the people of MAGAland won't care. Elections, voting, thinking about policy...that's all just too hard. Better to let their dear leaders take care of that for them, tell them what's right and wrong and what god thinks, while they shout...we're #1...ad nauseam. Sure, there will be political opposition to the ruling class, but that's easily managed. Just trump up charges (pun intended) and throw them in jail. If someone gets too far out of line, polonium tea is always a possibility. Since they're finally their own sovereign country, they can write their own legal system where rule of law is whatever the hell the ruling theocratic junta says it is.
At the same time, we'll be debating endlessly on whether to sanction them economically due to the latest human rights atrocities.
marie999 (2,411 posts)
29. Many more non-MAGAs will move to blue states than MAGAs will move to red states.
Many of the non-MAGAs will be poor. We will end up worse off as a country especially if we have a fascist state along our border.
The Jungle 1 (1,373 posts)
32. The one big one.
You will need to provide for your own defense. We will be closing all bases in the states you choose to move to. You will be given none of our military equipment. If any of our military suppliers deal with you they will be taken off our supplier list. Just pull yourselves up by your boot straps. Good by and good luck ya pukes.
Have fun with that low tax thing.
I think we should copy Sherman and burn all federal investments in the new repuke states.
On the up side you won't need any silly meat inspectors or FAA or FDA. You can inspect you own shit. Plus you will be able to build statues celebrating your party on 1/6.
Democracy means when you lose you sit down and shut up.
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Y7giUcHQNTwgh4rRmR8OZAHaEJ&pid=Api&P=0&w=306&h=172)
Oh, yes... that worked so well for the federal government last time...
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We'll take the land we control and Canada too.
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Star Moron Roisin Ni Fiachra (1,879 posts)
9. I, for one, will welcome our new utopian blue state democratic society and state
after the fascists go to their self-created hell on earth.
Imagine a country where Brawndo swilling, Trump worshiping, Fox News parroting, lying sack of shit authoritarian conservative hypocritial idiocrats have no power whatsoever to obstruct human, social, scientific, environmental, and political evolution.
My Field of Dreams. If you build it, I will come.
Build walls around san fran, portland, philly, and chicago.
Declare them independent states.
Theres your dreamy new utopian blue democratic society and state: millions in leftist riot damage, police who can't or wont do thier jobs, smash and grab mobs, turds in the streets, used needles laying around all over, your children molested in bathrooms at school, and murder records broken.
You are a dumbass. If there were a test for your particular brand of dumbassery which detected it within the first two weeks of a pregnancy, I *might* begin to rethink my stance on abortion.
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Girard442 (5,386 posts)
12. Good luck trying to defend your new country...
...with nothing but a bunch of pudgy cosplayers with tricked out squirrel rifles.
Wait, I thought they were military style assault weapons...weapons meant for the battlefield...weapons of mass destruction, so dangerous that their recoil alone causes ptsd!
Make up your mind, lefty.
:rotf:
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The Jungle 1 (1,373 posts)
32. The one big one.
You will need to provide for your own defense. We will be closing all bases in the states you choose to move to. You will be given none of our military equipment. If any of our military suppliers deal with you they will be taken off our supplier list. Just pull yourselves up by your boot straps. Good by and good luck ya pukes.
Have fun with that low tax thing.
I think we should copy Sherman and burn all federal investments in the new repuke states.
On the up side you won't need any silly meat inspectors or FAA or FDA. You can inspect you own shit. Plus you will be able to build statues celebrating your party on 1/6.
You get the east and west coasts, little more, and many military suppliers and many if not most domestic arms manufacturers are already in red states. Do you think the ones that aren't would stay or relocate?
Also, let us know when you get thirsty enough and we'll start trading you glasses of water for that military equipment.
If you think the woke and stupid win a fight where the other side no longer feels the desire or need to exercise restraint as it has previously, you may be one of them.
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Build walls around san fran, portland, philly, and chicago.
Declare them independent states.
Theres your dreamy new utopian blue democratic society and state: millions in leftist riot damage, police who can't or wont do thier jobs, smash and grab mobs, turds in the streets, used needles laying around all over, your children molested in bathrooms at school, and murder records broken.
You are a dumbass. If there were a test for your particular brand of dumbassery which detected it within the first two weeks of a pregnancy, I *might* begin to rethink my stance on abortion.
I was gonna say, we've seen previews of the "fascist-free" blue state "utopia"; it's not pretty.
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Star Member NanceGreggs (26,703 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216225788
Be Careful What You Wish For
We've all heard you Republicans talk about seceding from the US (aka the blue states) and - as is always the case with Republicans - it's obvious you haven't thought this through.
Now do the DU members who in 2017 were talking of Blue states seceding.
HIC!pocrite
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The Jungle 1
Democracy means when you lose you sit down and shut up.
Like the Dems sat down and shut up during the Reagan, Bush41, Bush43, and Trump years?
OK!
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How much should we charge them for life giving oil or will they go full on Green new deal? :-)
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How much should we charge them for life giving oil or will they go full on Green new deal? :-)
And charge for feeding blue states?
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And charge for feeding blue states?
Or for providing coal to power their 'lectric vehicles?
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Or for providing coal to power their 'lectric vehicles?
These are just minor details and can easily be overcome by studying the Communist model of North Korea or the USSR.
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Greggs not knowing anything ONCE AGAIN: Social Security is NOT a US Government plan. It is independent of the Government and General Fund although it is ENFORCED by the government. No matter how how much libtards want to point at SS and Medicare and say "you want to give those up?" My answer is "this is a forced savings plan and the deal is that it would be given back to me and services provided. They are NOT welfare nor were passed as welfare programs.
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It's always amusing when they believe that, in the event of such a schism, the best and the brightest in industry and science, not to mention the wealthy who pay the lion's share of income taxes, will remain in their Socialist shithole so they can have 90% of their wealth confiscated. Especially when they can just relocate one or two states over and enjoy economic freedom and upward mobility. Good luck with your economy based on hemp clothing and organic quinoa.
Say hello to Venezuela 2.0.
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One more item DUmmies may not know about, while semiconductor are typically associated with Silicon Valley, one of the largest US semiconductor companies is Texas Instruments. Hmmmmmmm … where is NASA located?
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One more item DUmmies may not know about, while semiconductor are typically associated with Silicon Valley, one of the largest US semiconductor companies is Texas Instruments. Hmmmmmmm … where is NASA located?
Don't think it really matters...how many times have you read 'going to (xyz space project) is such a waste, how many poor people could we feed with that money?"