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Title: Where We Are
Post by: dutch508 on January 03, 2022, 09:30:38 AM
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Star Member NanceGreggs (26,677 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216203868

Where We Are

The country is divided like never before. Not only are we divided in terms of ideology, political policy, and future goals, we are divided by self-evident truths and the acknowledgment of facts.

Anti-Semitism and racism are not only openly demonstrated, they are displayed with pride. Violence is encouraged, education is dismissed as an evil frivolity, and intelligence is viewed as akin to witchcraft.

Even common sense is frowned upon when it leads people to actually think for themselves, instead of being told what to think - regardless of how non-sensical the thoughts they are told to believe may be.

Our children are increasingly at risk of being killed by crazed gunmen in their classrooms. Our elderly are at risk of being bankrupted by medical bills. And all of us are at risk of dying of a fatal disease because of those who've chosen to follow the advice of know-nothing politicians and the quacks they proffer as "experts".

Science has become a dirty word, reading books has become a subversive activity, and supporting the rights of women and the LGBT community is tantamount to embracing Satanism.

Patriotism has been redefined as one's willingness to defend the indefensible, and Christianity is now measured by one's willingness to ignore the teachings of Christ.

Lies have become the language of those elected to represent us - and many of those elected representatives not only hoped to overthrow our democracy, they actively participated in attempting to do so. And those who believe their lies are willing participants as well.

Given all I have cited above, there is not a single thing that does not lead back to the Republican party. There is not a lie told that can't be traced back to the GOP - there is not a democracy-destroying untruth that didn't originate with power-hungry Republicans - there isn't an iota of true patriotism or love of country that the Party of Trump can lay claim to.

We live in interesting times - and I believe that eyes are about to be opened in ways that Trump-humping Republicans never anticipated.

 :yawn:

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Star Member bucolic_frolic (28,650 posts)

1. Yes it is that bad

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It's as if the GOP slow-boiled a concentrated witches' brew of the last 100 years - the November 1917 Russian Revolution (which was called an insurrection in the press at the time), the Holocaust, McCarthyism, greed, racism, KKK, Watergate, supply-side economics - and released it upon us all at once. It will take some powerful medicine to flip the switch back to reality.

 :thatsright:

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Star Member KS Toronado (5,140 posts)

2. Yes, we can place most of today's problems

right at the feet of reQublicOns.

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Star Member abqtommy (12,709 posts)

4. Let's make it a fact that in 2022 many more Treasonous reTHUG Fascists will open

their eyes to realize that they're looking at life from inside a prison cell. Most of us
have had our eyes open all along and we know how to clean up this mess.

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Klaralven (6,970 posts)

6. The Internet is an Envy Amplifier

People want things that others have. People want esoteric knowledge that others have. People want to belong to groups with wealth and power.

Social media platforms amplify all these wants as they see TikTok influencers, YouTube experts, and advocates for group solidarity based on race, religion, language, socioeconomic class, etc. This all raises the social temperature, increases conflict, and encourages people to seek out solidarity with groups that they think will help them compete in a more and more competitive society.

This is true not only with the US, but with 6.8 billion smartphone internet users globally. Around 5 billion of them are going to want what the other 1.8 billion have. The other 95% of the global population are going to want a lifestyle similar to the 5% in the US. This is going to increase global conflict as well - not necessarily between the major powers but through terrorism, irregular warfare and regional conflicts over resources.

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jaxexpat (2,676 posts)

8. Yep, Nancy, this pimple's gotta pop.

This acne on the face of the republic is not only unsightly, it signals an epidermal infestation beyond the capabilities of Clearasil or any other costly ineffectuality. Perhaps if people could taper off showering with septic media and trying to mask the oozing eruptions with cosmetic patriotism distilled from boiled whale blubber. But that would be so.........hygenic.

Makes one to recall the great emperor, Tiberias, who at his dying reflected, "I have bathed with the great unwashed for the last time."

Yes, I have numerous quotes from famous and historical figures.

 :whatever:

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Funtatlaguy (9,304 posts)

10. I blame Rupert Murdoch and the fact that we allowed his lies.

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Star Member NoMoreRepugs (6,423 posts)

11. My last comment to a few of my trumphumper relatives

was - “get back to me when you can tell me ONE thing Republicans have done for the good of All the country in the last 10 years.” So far I have had the good fortune to have not heard from any of them.

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Star Member paleotn (11,845 posts)

16. Sounds like a fascist movement to me.

Some fear using the word fascism. I don't know why. If it walks and sounds like a duck, well? It's a damn duck.

Jason Stanley has done great work on this. If you've not read How Fascism Works, I highly recommend it. Also, Madeleine Albright's Fascism - A Warning us very very good. James Whitman's Hitler's American Model - The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ties much of Nazi race policy directly to American Jim Crow. In fact, Nazis thought we were too radical in our "one drop" policy in the south. That's pretty ****ing bad when the ******* Nazis think we're too radical.

If you have the time, watch the following talk by Stanley about his work. Very informative.

Education is the key, not fear of using a word because of it's past connotations. Don't be fooled, fascism never died. It was alive in well in 1930's America and lives here comfortably to this day.

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DENVERPOPS (5,379 posts)

26. For the 70 million Republican voters

that are educationally challenged, they only need to read: ANIMAL FARM........a book that any third grader can understand......

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Star Member c-rational (1,885 posts)

22. If I recall the phrase "May you live in interesting times" was used as a Chinese curse. Looking

forward to the reThugs living in interesting times.

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Star Member SleeplessinSoCal (6,753 posts)

24. I hope you submitted this to newspapers.

It is a warning of clarion clarity.

(Interesting sidebar: clarion - a medieval trumpet with clear shrill tones. The Drumph who opted to change their name set them on a dark path)

 :thatsright:

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Star Member RFCalifornia (330 posts)

33. We are in a "cold civil war"

The rurals think we hate them in the cities

The cities think they hate us in the rurals

Meanwhile, the rich are making one last cash grab

In Bitcoin no less

We are all being screwed, and we have no capacity for revolution, only civil war

Stay safe, keep your trusted friends and family close

And be kind

Kindness is the only thing that drives out hate

Not love, but kindness

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Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (13,401 posts)

42. Nance, in reality all that you cited leads back to those who fund the Republican Party...

and they mostly remain hidden behind a very thick curtain out of public view.

All these miscreant Rethug politicians (including tRump) and their minion voter base are just window dressing distractions from the core of our problem: big money's control and influence on our political systems.

Without those huge sums corporations and those of high wealth have invested in think tanks, public and social media and our elections, the Republican Party would have long ago been relegated to the margins of our news cycles (like Bob Dole's clockwork rituals in the '60s before news cameras to bitch about taxes).

We're living in a warped form of fascism call plutocracy that I fear is very fragile.

Let us endeavor to pull back and destroy that curtain of concealment

 :whatever:
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: ADsOutburst on January 03, 2022, 09:59:00 AM
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Even common sense is frowned upon when it leads people to actually think for themselves, instead of being told what to think - regardless of how non-sensical the thoughts they are told to believe may be.

Hey, she's correct about this! Probably by accident, but still...
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: SVPete on January 03, 2022, 10:04:10 AM
Garrulous Sot sez wut?
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: FlaGator on January 03, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
That much stupid gives me a headache.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: Zathras on January 04, 2022, 01:21:25 AM
Nance the Drunkard would have felt right at home working for Pravda.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: landofconfusion80 on January 04, 2022, 04:40:51 AM
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DENVERPOPS (5,379 posts)

26. For the 70 million Republican voters

that are educationally challenged, they only need to read: ANIMAL FARM........a book that any third grader can understand......
Interesting...wasn't this book banned by the communists/socialists of the USSR? I don't think they would be considered rightwing...
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: 67 Rover on January 04, 2022, 07:46:02 AM
Interesting...wasn't this book banned by the communists/socialists of the USSR? I don't think they would be considered rightwing...

To a modern DUmmie like AOC they certainly would be.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: ADsOutburst on January 04, 2022, 08:14:04 AM
Interesting...wasn't this book banned by the communists/socialists of the USSR? I don't think they would be considered rightwing...

That would probably be because it was a satire of the 1917 Russian Revolution. Take note, 'educationally challenged' DUrps.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: freedumb2003b on January 04, 2022, 08:25:34 AM
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Even common sense is frowned upon when it leads people to actually think for themselves, instead of being told what to think - regardless of how non-sensical the thoughts they are told to believe may be.
Hey, she's correct about this! Probably by accident, but still...

How ironic she does not realize she is talking about herself and the DUmp.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: SVPete on January 04, 2022, 09:07:50 AM
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DENVERPOPS (5,379 posts)

26. For the 70 million Republican voters

that are educationally challenged, they only need to read: ANIMAL FARM........a book that any third grader can understand......

 ::) Stereotype much? ::) I read it years ago, and :thatsright: unlike DUmmie DENVERPOPS :thatsright: I knew and recognized it as anti-Stalinist, written by a disillusioned Socialist. :thatsright:

But since we're into "challenges", DUmmies should read Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago. It's not brief - 2500-3000 pages - but it's a stark picture of Leninist-Stalinist reality, what Marxian Socialism causes. For "extra credit" DUmmies willing to learn even more truth about their beloved Marxist Socialism should read Robert Conquest's Harvest of Sorrow, which tells of Stalin's Ukrainian terror-famine.

She never learned specifics, but my Grandmother lost her brothers to Stalin, maybe in a Gulag, maybe in the Holodomor, maybe in "exile" in a desolate, unsettled, part of Siberia.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: jukin on January 06, 2022, 12:54:12 PM
The Drunkard pants shitting is right but all of her points become mute for it is the left that is and has been doing those things. Her post only proves she knows her side is wrong on everything. I think this is a common trait with psychopaths... particularly drug addicted psychopaths.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 06, 2022, 01:06:11 PM
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Anti-Semitism and racism are not only openly demonstrated, they are displayed with pride. Violence is encouraged, education is dismissed as an evil frivolity, and intelligence is viewed as akin to witchcraft.

Describes the Democrat party perfectly, drunken Aunt Nance.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: Zathras on January 06, 2022, 02:30:17 PM
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Star Member NoMoreRepugs (6,423 posts)

11. My last comment to a few of my trumphumper relatives

was - “get back to me when you can tell me ONE thing Republicans have done for the good of All the country in the last 10 years.” So far I have had the good fortune to have not heard from any of them.

Or, more likely, they realise arguing with a brain dead relative is a waste of time and are just living their lives.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: Mr Mannn on January 06, 2022, 02:58:18 PM
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Anti-Semitism and racism are not only openly demonstrated, they are displayed with pride.
OK, I'll bite. WHERE?
Apart from certain Democrats in congress (the squad), I've not seen any. so WHERE is this being openly displayed? I would like to know.
Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on January 07, 2022, 05:42:28 AM
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DENVERPOPS (5,379 posts)

26. For the 70 million Republican voters

that are educationally challenged, they only need to read: ANIMAL FARM........a book that any third grader can understand......

We don't need to read that book...we can see what's happening in DC and elsewhere quite clearly.

Title: Re: Where We Are
Post by: SVPete on January 07, 2022, 08:51:13 AM
I don't know what current PS practice is (we homeschooled K-12), but when I was in high school Animal Farm was among the books usually read for English class. I escaped it and A Tale of Two Cities because several vocal students in my class asked to do Brave New World and Germinal instead. A decade and a half later (and after having read Gulag Archipelago and One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch) or so I read both on my own. Animal Farm was, as "advertised", an anti-Stalinist allegory. A Tale of Two Cities was not to my taste, mostly because it's very unlike most of Dickens' novels, and I'm one of those weird people who actually like his style of multiple sub-plots and ultra-colorful characters (David Copperfield, Oliver Twist, and Great Expectations are more Dickensesque).