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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on January 03, 2022, 09:19:59 AM
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kentuck (103,907 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216206771
Is Vladimir trying to help his pal, Donald, with his threats against the Ukraine?
Is he making threats of war to take the heat off his former puppet?
If it is, it doesn't seem to be working. Unless, of course, he actually attacks.
But, it does seem to be a modus operandi of Vlad's - to try and get people to focus on something else.
Unfortunately for them, Joe Biden knows their game very well.
Star Member Wounded Bear (48,068 posts)
1. Deflection and distraction are primary tools of autocrats the world over...
As for Putin "helping" trump, I doubt it. Contrary to the themes of hundreds of Hollywood movies, there really is no honor among thieves. trump was a uselful idiot for Putin, now that he's out of office I don't see him being all the useful any more, other than in a peripheral disruptive way.
I think much of the "movement" is leaving trump behind anyway. It's taking on a life of its own.
Star Member panader0 (23,541 posts)
2. It's a possibility, but I'm unsure how that would help spankie.
Would he withdraw if tfg is elected, making a hero of the don? I doubt it. I think Biden has
the EU on his side and Putie knows it.
Star Member Silent3 (11,791 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure Putin has ambitions for Ukraine no matter what
And he doesn't give a rat's ass about Trump specifically, only Trump's ability to destabilize the US. I'm sure Putin think Trump is a buffoon.
Mainly Putin wants to keep Ukraine out of NATO and in the Russian sphere of influence. I'm not sure how much he wants the territory itself.
The particular timing of Putin's threats are probably about challenging Biden and trying to make Biden look bad, which does help Trump (if it works) of course.
:whatever:
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No Vlad sees a weak preezy and a junta that wants to destroy America so he is taking the opportunity.
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IRL outside of kt's acid-and-'shroom-laced :stoner: , Vlad recognized LIEden's surrender on Nordstream 2 as signalling LIEden's lack of will and of weakness.
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Obama cedes Crimea.
Everything is quiet for 4 years.
Suddenly Russia is bellicose again.
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Speaking of distractions, sounds like DU posters are trying to distract from Biden's inefficacy.
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No Vlad sees a weak preezy and a junta that wants to destroy America so he is taking the opportunity.
Not only this but, when you watch the video calls between the two, the expression on Putin's face tells me two things:
1. Disbelief that America could elect such a weak and demented person to the office of President.
2. Disgust at the fact he has to deal with such an ignorant buffoon on the world stage.
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kentuck (103,907 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216206771
Is Vladimir trying to help his pal, Donald, with his threats against the Ukraine?
Is he making threats of war to take the heat off his former puppet?
so the DUmmies still cling to the BIG LIE...
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Biden is weak. Putin knows it. You do the math, primitives, if you can be honest enough with yourselves to do that. If you can’t, then nothing I can say will convince you, either. You can just sit back and watch what happens.
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so the DUmmies still cling to the BIG LIE...
...Like a leaky life raft in a hurricane.
Yep. To be a Dim'Rat, bullshit must be your stock in trade; but most of all, you'd have to be able to sell the bullshit to yourself.
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Biden is weak. Putin knows it. You do the math, primitives, if you can be honest enough with yourselves to do that. If you can’t, then nothing I can say will convince you, either. You can just sit back and watch what happens.
Xi knows it as well, unfortunately.
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They cling to that whole collusion hoax like Linus to his blanket.
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kentuck (103,907 posts)
Is Vladimir trying to help his pal, Donald, with his threats against the Ukraine?
Is he making threats of war to take the heat off his former puppet?
If it is, it doesn't seem to be working. Unless, of course, he actually attacks.
But, it does seem to be a modus operandi of Vlad's - to try and get people to focus on something else.
Unfortunately for them, Joe Biden knows their game very well.
Biden had a front row seat to Obama ignoring Putin invading Crimea, so yeah he's got a good working knowledge of being incompetent on the world stage. That is if he actually remembers it happening, which is always questionable.
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Trump will have more flexibility after his re-election.
Or something...
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