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Title: What jesus said about the muslims
Post by: PatrickMahoney on August 28, 2011, 05:34:18 PM

"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

John 8:44

Title: Re: What jesus said about the muslims
Post by: FreeBorn on September 04, 2011, 01:01:04 AM

Quote from: PatrickMahoney on August 28, 2011, 05:34:18 PM

"You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

John 8:44

Islam, began in Mecca, claimed to be the revelation of God (Allah) through the angel Gabriel to a man named Muhammad. Muhammad was born in approximately AD 570-571. He was born to the powerful tribe of the Quraish in Mekkah (Mecca). His father's name was Abdullah. His mother's name was Aminah.

Your point?

Title: Re: What jesus said about the muslims
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 04, 2011, 05:18:59 PM

As the citation in OP refers to those who take a legalistic interpretation of salvation it could be argued that such a verse could apply to the more legalistic schools of Islamic doctrine...but then the same thing could be said of any sect or creed including a few contemporary American Christian strains.

If the OP presumes to claim that the Nazarene, while speaking to a live audience, was presaging the advent of Islam half a millennium later I would ask if the OP was as equally well-versed and determined to see the injunctions against false prophecy, heresy and word-twisting carried to their dutiful end.