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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on October 07, 2020, 08:49:40 AM
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DemUnleashed (138 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214235277
My 15 year old asked me my thoughts on Trump's COVID diagnosis
Just now before my son left for school, he came over to me and said "Mom, I know you hate Trump but you don't want him to die because he got COVID, do you?"
Now how the hell am I supposed to answer that?? I didn't want to send the message to my kid that human life doesn't matter and that you should never wish harm on anyone and I would be a horrible human being if I was fine with someone dying and on and on with those types of thoughts
So I just said "No, I don't want him to die" and I left off the part that I don't want him to die because I want him to suffer with the damage that COVID can do to you if you survive, that I want him to see Biden win, that I want him to see Republicans down the ballot losing big time, that I want to see him prosecuted and go to jail, that I want him to see his family go to jail
How horrible of a mom would he think he had if I had said all those things, so I didn't!
I'm curious....how do you suggest I should have answered his question? Have any of you been in a similar predicament?
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Rice4VP (238 posts)
1. I don't want him dead, I just want him voted out, broke, and in prison.
Star Member PJMcK (13,521 posts)
2. I didn't have that problem with my 24-year old son
He hates Trump more than I do!
Star Member panader0 (20,930 posts)
3. "I don't want him to die from covid. I want him to die from old age in prison."
Star Member BumRushDaShow (67,649 posts)
8. One of my youngest nieces will be that age in 4 months
They aren't stupid. She and most of her friends cried (literally - I was really surprised) when Hillary lost, and they were 11/12 at the time. I won't even detail how they feel about what is going on now. However my niece is also a little empath. She can't help it. She absorbs and internalizes all the pain that her friends may experience due to others who bully them. So it's a matter of how that child reacts to analogous situations and amazingly enough, that trait starts when they are little.
It will take years of "life" for them to understand the nuances of the complexities of the concept, but it also goes back to whether they are "hard-wired" for empathy or not. You can teach it and preach it but if their brain has no reaction to inflicting "pain" on others, whether physically or psychologically, there is not much you can do but try to guide them into another perspective.
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Star Member MontanaMama (14,592 posts)
9. My 15 year old son and I talk about MF45 a lot.
The kiddo is well aware of my feelings about what a terrible person the pResident Our conversations center around telling the truth about what we see happening and doing the right thing even when you see so many others doing and saying things that hurt others. We talk about being patient and kind and sometimes we get righteously mad over our current circumstances with Covid and how it has caused such havoc in our lives with work and school. Specifically, when it comes to MF45’s Covid diagnosis, our conversations have been about consequences for our actions. tRump took risks and didn’t listen to science and he got sick. He may have gotten sick enough to die...time will tell. As my kiddo said...”tRump bought the ticket, now he’s got to take the ride.”
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F*ck the Wuhan Flu.
They should all consider themselves lucky to be alive as there was no mention of how these "children" of liberal parents survived the most dangerous and deadly environment on planet earth.... a liberal mothers womb.
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And your kid's opinion has as much bearing as carter's:
'I think to close out this discussion, I think it would be better to put into perspective what we are talking about. I had a discussion with our daughter, Amy, the other day before I came here to ask her what the most important issue was. She said she thought it was nuclear weaponry, and the control of nuclear arms,' Carter said.
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How horrible of a mom would he think he had if I had said all those things, so I didn't!
That ship has already sailed when your 15 year old said he knows you already hate President Trump.
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DemUnleashed (138 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214235277
My 15 year old asked me my thoughts on Trump's COVID diagnosis
Just now before my son left for school, he came over to me and said "Mom, I know you hate Trump but you don't want him to die because he got COVID, do you?"
Now how the hell am I supposed to answer that?? ...
Two of my children were that age at different points in Clinton's MalAdministration. They wouldn't have used the word "Hate", because they knew I didn't hate Clinton, but that detail aside, had Clinton gotten sick with a potentially deadly disease I would have easily answered, "Of course I don't want Clinton to die of this!"
Hatred is the core of many/most DU-folks being.
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Very clever DUmp op.
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I didn't want to send the message to my kid that human life doesn't matter and that you should never wish harm on anyone and I would be a horrible human being if I was fine with someone dying and on and on with those types of thoughts
And yet, that's exactly the message that your side sends. The left proclaims "words matter", but they don't practice what they preach. People are hurt when the left pathologizes Trump supporters, claims that the president is sympathetic to racists, that he claimed coronavirus is a hoax, that neo-NAZIs are hiding around every corner, that policemen are "klansmen in blue", that republicans are going to take your social security and health insurance, and so on.
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BumRushDaShow
One of my youngest nieces will be that age in 4 months. She and most of her friends cried (literally - I was really surprised) when Hillary lost, and they were 11/12 at the time.
All future welfare dependents.
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I would love to hear gNad's take on this.
I sure miss reading about the loud round mound schooling the
unwashed primitives on Skimmer's island. :bawl:
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Star Member BumRushDaShow (67,649 posts)
8. One of my youngest nieces will be that age (15) in 4 months
They aren't stupid.
Same group of people who thought snacking on Tide Pods was a good idea.
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I would love to hear gNad's take on this.
I sure miss reading about the loud round mound schooling the
unwashed primitives on Skimmer's island. :bawl:
She's on facebook https://www.facebook.com/nadin.brzezinski I don't visit her page very often. Just when I need a few laughs. She actually has a few acolytes there so she gets to say "yup" a lot. Here some nad-takes...
It has been a death cult for a while. This did not surprise me
The president of the US is a madman
If enough of us vote, and I think we will, we can fix it. But it won't be easy
I expect a landslide
VOTE, as if your life depends on it, because it does
When Don Jr sounds normal. Incidentally, this is the shit that can humanize a president. and yes, steroids can do that, and they do this even worse with elderly patients
There are some more shots from our vacation in Mexico City. Tom took the photos, and for those who love photography, we did not take the fancy DSLrs, we took a simple 610 Point and Shoot. You really can take great shots with a point and shoot too.
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Hatred is the core of many/most DU-folks being.
I find this behavior among the DUmpasses somewhat interesting, yet pitiful.
My boys are teenagers at this point. One of them wants to talk politics frequently, the other is mostly either uninterested, or just keeps things to himself as he tends to steer away from complex issues that may lead to arguing... he's mostly a passive type. I never engage with them regarding general politics, especially the "this candidate sucks because..." type of conversations or even casual comments.
We talk about ethics in general, explain this v/s that concepts, why some things work and others are pie in the sky dreams... etc.
No, kids this age aren't dumb, but they completely lack the wisdom that real life compiles for us, whether we like it or not, through time and experience. We don't talk republican v/s democrat or any other such nonsense. We focus on freedoms, rights, Constitution, law, and overall civility. And all of these topics, nearly without exception, build a solid, law-abiding, and civil conservative who recognizes the rights of others as being equal to his own.
We aren't into brainwashing our kids, even with religion... we want them informed about life, and we want them to make their own decisions eventually, but based on real life logic and reason. Only more time will tell if this is a proper approach, but in the end, we want them to be comfortable with what they believe and support, and not just "dad said so"... which eventually leads them to question everything later down the road.
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As Nazi Germany, the USSR, and China (etc.) demonstrated and demonstrate, it's one thing to know you are being fed BS and another to know what is true. US MSM aren't government controlled, but they are world-view, mindset, and peer-dependency mono-vocal.