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Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« on: October 17, 2008, 08:22:58 AM »
With the possible election of Barak Obama as President, and Democratic gains in the house and the Senate, one has to ask, "Why is America turning it's back on the military?" It's no secret that as soon as it became political expedient the Democrats turned on the military with a fury not seen since the Vietnam war, and attacked our heroes just to score political points. Are Americans so concerned about their 401(k) that the lives and well being of our troops are worthless?

We've seen Democrat John Murtha call our Marines murderers, Barak Obama said "we’ve got to get the job done there, and that requires us to have enough troops that we are not just air raiding villages and killing civilians," and Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi declaring the war in Iraq lost. When Barak Obama finally made a trip to Iraq, there are reports that he blew off troops there to meet him if there were no camera around, and lets not forget his shafting of wounded troops in Germany. This is the next Commander in Chief? I fear our troops are going to be in for a rough 4 years under an Obama administration. Why all the troop hate from the Democrats? It seems the Democrats choose to inspire the terrorists to kill our troops instead of inspiring our troops to victory.

What does this mean if Barak Obama is elected President? First, the troops will have little confidence in Obama or the democratic party. A little known fact that the media tends to ignore is, troops are reenlisting at record rates, even those units that are deployed in Iraq have higher than average reenlistment rates. I predict, no I know, that under an Obama administration that will come to an end. What will the military do? Will the young Obama voters run to the recruiters and sign up? Even if they could find a recruiter, as many Democratic supporters are moving to get them thrown off campus or out of their towns, it's highly doubtful that the Obama voter will even consider joining the Military, after all these are the people shouting down recruiters on collage campuses. That will leave the military critically understaffed, and I doubt the Democrats will resort to the draft when they control the government.

I know many people are going to get angry at the troops for not reenlisting, after all they choose to serve the country, why leave the military because of a change in President. It's not just a change of President, it's the election of a President who has a high disdain for the military. Many people forget that when a person chooses to serve the country, an assumption is made that the country will serve the troops, it's a two way street. Someone leaving the military if Barak Obama is President isn't turning their back on the country, the country would have turned it's back on them.

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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2008, 08:29:03 AM »
The independent/middle suspects that might happen but is too enamored with dreams of "free" healthcare.

The leftr wants exactly the scenario you described to happen. If we leave Iraq and it turns into a bloodbath they will crow enthusiastically from atop a pile of 1 million Iraqi bodies what a failure Bush's adventure turned out to be.
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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 08:52:47 AM »
I just posted something in the military forum.  It seems our Congress is thinking real strongly on taking away most of our retirement benefits as well.
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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 09:22:40 AM »
I just posted something in the military forum.  It seems our Congress is thinking real strongly on taking away most of our retirement benefits as well.


That won't happen with Bush or McCain as President, but it will if Obama is President. You need to get that out to the news and general public.

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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 11:07:23 AM »
I just posted something in the military forum.  It seems our Congress is thinking real strongly on taking away most of our retirement benefits as well.

funny, i seem to remember Obama saying he wanted to "support our veterans when they come home".  Could he have been, gasp, LYING?  :loser: :banghead:

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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 10:19:21 PM »
This country would not last long if they succeed in taking the retiremnt bennefits from Veterans. The last time they denied vets bennefits they had to call the Army out in DC and declare war on them when they marched to get what was promised to them. I can only imagin how bad it would be this time.
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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 10:45:16 PM »
This country would not last long if they succeed in taking the retiremnt bennefits from Veterans. The last time they denied vets bennefits they had to call the Army out in DC and declare war on them when they marched to get what was promised to them. I can only imagin how bad it would be this time.

If you are talking about the Bonus Army you are only partially correct.  On that particular occasion the veterans were not denied their bonus/benefit.  They had marched on Washington in 1932 to demand a bonus that wasn't due until 1945, but you are correct when you say that the president called in the U.S. army to drive them out.
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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 11:41:45 PM »
If you are talking about the Bonus Army you are only partially correct.  On that particular occasion the veterans were not denied their bonus/benefit.  They had marched on Washington in 1932 to demand a bonus that wasn't due until 1945, but you are correct when you say that the president called in the U.S. army to drive them out.

Thanks. The Bonus Army was what I was thinking about. Still it wasn't a very pleasant day for either the Army or for the veterans as a whole.
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Re: Why is America turning it's back on the military?
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 11:53:48 PM »
Thanks. The Bonus Army was what I was thinking about. Still it wasn't a very pleasant day for either the Army or for the veterans as a whole.

Correct you are.  That was not a pleasant period for our country.

What I've always wondered is why the government didn't try to find another route to solve it.

Granted we were in a depression, but not everybody was poor.  The rich were still rich  I wonder if the government could have sold those bonuses at a discount to the Rockefellers and the Fords etc. that still had money?  I suspect many veterans at that time would have accepted a sharply discounted bonus.

We will never know, but it is curious to think about
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