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car identification
« on: July 08, 2011, 05:40:59 PM »
As some might know, I'm heir to all the family archives, being the last one, and I've been spending quite a bit of time, when not working in real life or hanging around conservativecave on the internet, sorting through pictures and papers and things, going back to the 1720s, as much of it will eventually devolve onto the nephews (but I hope not for a very long time yet), who know less than I do.

I'm always coming across photographs with motor vehicles in them, all of them before my own time.

I never paid much attention to cars--really, no, I didn't or don't--interested in them only insofar as all four wheels turn the same direction. 

When I lived in Lincoln, I used to live in rich people's houses when they went on extended trips to here or there--hiring me was cheaper than putting the dog and the cat into a kennel--and I had use-of-the-automobile privileges.  Some of these people had five or six cars.

I always just took the first one handy, whereas friends used to insist, "But how about taking the Porsche instead?" or "Haven't you tried the Peugeot yet?" or "Oh, no, let's take the Lamborghini instead" or ad nauseam.  Sometimes we did, but really I always preferred to simply take the first car in the driveway or garage, no matter what it was.

To me, a car is a car is a car is a car.  Just so all four wheels turn the same direction.

So I'm serious here; I don't pay attention.

Anyway, can anyone illuminate me on identifying any of the following (and there's probably going to be a whole lot more photographs of family vehicles, posted as I find them)?



From 1927, Clarion County, Pennsylvania. 



From 1939 (I guess), Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.



I know, I know; a tractor, but that's a motor vehicle.  From, I guess, 1943, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.



Not a motor vehicle, but I'm curious.  From 1944, New York City; that seems too fancy of a uniform for the soldier taking the photograph.  An officer, perhaps?  What service?



From 1949, North Platte, Nebraska; anybody know what kind of airplane that was?



Notation says "July 1951;" I'm guessing the Black Hills of South Dakota.



Notation says "August 1951," and it's in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.



I'm guessing 1952, known for sure to be in the Black Hills of South Dakota.



Now, we're getting nearer my time; the motor vehicle my parents had when I was born.

Can anybody identify any of these motor vehicles?  Thanks.....and there'll be more.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2011, 06:18:48 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 05:40:59 PM


Notation says "July 1951;" I'm guessing the Black Hills of South Dakota.
I'm not sure what model car that is, but car makers used to make 'business/salesman' specials... they were two-door coupes with an extra-large trunk in the place of a second pair of doors.  Chrysler, Ford, and Chevrolet all had their versions.

Those goofy rear windows make me think 'Studebaker', though.

edit...
Yep, 1949 Studebaker Starlight Coupe
« Last Edit: July 08, 2011, 06:30:53 PM by chris_ »
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Re: car identification
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 06:52:38 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 05:40:59 PM


I'm guessing 1952, known for sure to be in the Black Hills of South Dakota.

Looks like a 1951 Nash model.  It's definitely not one of the Big Three since those were all pretty distinctive and are well-known.  I guess your parents had a thing for oddball cars.


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Re: car identification
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 06:57:45 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 05:40:59 PM


Notation says "August 1951," and it's in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania.
Easy enough... a 1949 Studebaker Champion.

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Re: car identification
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 06:59:54 PM »
Thank you thus far, chris_.

After I was born, the parents bought strictly American Motors, clear up until the end of their lives.

I have no idea why; perhaps they were friends of that particular dealer in town.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 07:02:46 PM »
Now you've just gone and made everything easier. :)

American Motors has a very long and convoluted history, from the Nash and Studebaker mergers, Kaiser-Frazer, and Willys, to finally being bought by Chrysler.  It's an interesting story.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 07:04:08 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 08, 2011, 07:02:46 PM
American Motors has a very long and convoluted history, from the Nash and Studebaker mergers, Kaiser-Frazer, and Willys, to finally being bought by Chrysler.  It's an interesting story.

Yeah, it was George Romney's company, I guess, American Motors.

It always ran fourth in the Big Three.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 07:05:58 PM »
The white car with the red top... I have it on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't place it.  I'll have to track it down.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 07:14:05 PM »
Old-car sites like this are great for research and filling up the empty noggin with useless images and datum.

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/
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Re: car identification
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 07:21:05 PM »
The creme car with the red top is a 1953 Packard Mayfair.  I think.  




I cheated by using my 70-year old father.  :-)
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Re: car identification
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 07:34:05 PM »
The airplane is a Douglas DC-3 

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Re: car identification
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 07:39:29 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on July 08, 2011, 07:34:05 PM
The airplane is a Douglas DC-3 



You know, I've always wanted to ride in one of those, a prop-job.

Alas, all I've ever ridden in were jets.  One doesn't even know one's up in the air.

<<has never even been through an air-pocket, not even once.

I've always dreamed about riding over the Atlantic in a Constellation (I think that's the right name) from the early 1950s, or one of those Pan Am "clippers" from just before the second world war.  Either one would be a trip.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 07:41:57 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 07:39:29 PM
You know, I've always wanted to ride in one of those, a prop-job.
I rode in one.  God Almighty, it was loud.  My head was numb by the time I got off the plane.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 07:44:35 PM »
Great pictures Frank. I love old cars. My dad had a 54 Olds Super 88. I used to drag race all the 54 and 55 Chevy's in town. My parents could not figure out how tires were needed after the new car was only 6 months old. I am an old fart but I still like to floor it occasionally & get it up in the 3 digit mark.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 07:44:54 PM »
I think the tractor is a Farmall Super A. 




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Re: car identification
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 07:53:05 PM »
1936 Chrysler C-7 Touring





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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 07:53:32 PM »
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Re: car identification
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 07:55:34 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 08, 2011, 07:53:32 PM
Classy.

Whoa.

Would that have been an expensive vehicle for its time?

That part of the family wasn't really prosperous.  They did okay--raised some great Republicans and conservatives--but they weren't all that affluent.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 07:57:00 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 05:40:59 PM


From 1927, Clarion County, Pennsylvania.
Got to be a Model T.  Nothing else looks like it.

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Re: car identification
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 07:58:03 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 07:55:34 PM
Whoa.

Would that have been an expensive vehicle for its time?

That part of the family wasn't really prosperous.  They did okay--raised some great Republicans and conservatives--but they weren't all that affluent.
Early Chryslers were considered very plush and upper-class at the time, on par with Buick. 

Walter Chrysler led a very interesting life.  This book is a must-read for anyone who enjoys cars.
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Re: car identification
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 07:58:51 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 08, 2011, 07:57:00 PM
Got to be a Model T.  Nothing else looks like it.

Man, what I wouldn't give, to have that in mint condition.

That was my paternal grandfather's vehicle.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 08:01:48 PM »
1927 was the last year for the T.  The Model A was unveiled that year to replace it.

Another good website --> http://www.365daysofa.com/
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 08:03:13 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on July 08, 2011, 07:57:00 PM
Got to be a Model T.  Nothing else looks like it.



You grabbed a later Model T.  The one in that picture is a little earlier, like this one:

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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 08:04:14 PM »
I knew some concours weenie was going to come along and point out the spare tire was pointing in the wrong direction. :-)
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 08:09:16 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on July 08, 2011, 07:55:34 PM
Whoa.

Would that have been an expensive vehicle for its time?

That part of the family wasn't really prosperous.  They did okay--raised some great Republicans and conservatives--but they weren't all that affluent.

Probably in the neighborhood of $1100 back in the day, or roughly double the cost of a typical Ford or Chevrolet.
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