Is duing "the right thing" re impeachment ok

[dutch508]

Star Member wasupaloopa (3,299 posts)
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Is duing "the right thing" re impeachment ok even if it costs us the House in 2020? If we give back
the red district House seats after we did "the right thing" will you feel justified?

Nancy doesn't think so.

 

Star Member Dennis Donovan (8,594 posts)

1. The Repugs held on to the House, won the Senate *and* the Presidency in 2000...

How did Impeachment hurt them again?

 

Star Member BeyondGeography (32,554 posts)

3. They fired up their base and made that election about something more

than a referendum on the Clinton years. It was dumb.

waiting for the bitching about a stolen election...

Star Member brooklynite (51,790 posts)

11. Republicans LOST seats in a mid-term election where they should have won more

Gore lost in 2000 because he was a poor candidate who chose to shy away from a popular President.

 

Star Member Tom Rinaldo (19,864 posts)

15. And the charges against Clinton were chicken shit compared to the charges against Trump

That is why the American public were so frustrated with Republicans impeaching Clinton. But they understood why Nixon was forced from office. But they didn't understand his crimes before impeachment was actually underway.

Star Member GeorgeGist (21,250 posts)

4. What if 'we' don't do "the right thing" and it costs us the House in 2020?

Will you and Nancy feel vindicated?

Thomas Hurt (3,164 posts)

8. no, even if impeachment were successful and (this is a huge "and") he is convicted and removed

before the election, Pence takes office, pardons Trump and he walks from all possible federal charges.

standingtall (2,109 posts)

12. 2020 is a Presidential election Democratic turnout is always higher in Presidential election years

than in midterms. If there was ever a time where Democrats could afford to take that risk it is now. If we don't impeach Trump maybe we can still win a close Presidential election, but there will be no way we can take the Senate without the extra energy to our base impeaching Trump will bring us. Then in 2022 we will lose the house and sense whoever the Democratic President is he or she will get nothing done due to republican obstruction and a republican will be president come 2024.

[Old n Grumpy]

Star Member wasupaloopa (3,299 posts)
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Is duing "the right thing" re impeachment ok even if it costs us the House in 2020?

Yup!! it is known as F**king yourself.

[Ptarmigan]

Star Member wasupaloopa (3,299 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212182240

Is duing "the right thing" re impeachment ok even if it costs us the House in 2020? If we give back
the red district House seats after we did "the right thing" will you feel justified?

Nancy doesn't think so.

Let's see what impeach and impeachment means.

impeachment

noun
the impeaching of a public official before an appropriate tribunal.
(in Congress or a state legislature) the presentation of formal charges against a public official by the lower house, trial to be before the upper house.
demonstration that a witness is less worthy of belief.
the act of impeaching.
the state of being impeached.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/impeachment

impeach

verb (used with object)
to accuse (a public official) before an appropriate tribunal of misconduct in office.
Chiefly Law. to challenge the credibility of:
to impeach a witness.
to bring an accusation against.
to call in question; cast an imputation upon:
to impeach a person's motives.
to call to account.
noun
Obsolete. impeachment.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/impeach

It means to accuse and bring charges. I do not see the word removal.