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20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« on: February 08, 2012, 11:15:31 PM »
20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/20-of-republicans-leaning-to-obama/

I don't think I can trust this poll.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 11:30:14 PM »
I don't think I'd trust it either.

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Brian Williams most influential anchor, Wenzel Strategies poll, Williams NBC in bed with Obama administration, Welcome to age of Big Brother
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/brian-williams-most-influential-anchor-wenzel-strategies-poll-williams-nbc-in-bed-with-obama-administration-welcome-to-age-of-big-brother/

That's the same polling company WND used.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 09:00:35 AM »
http://visiontoamerica.org/8036/stunning-number-of-republicans-lean-to-obama/

Someone's already done the research on this in the comments section:

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"Wenzel Strategies."

Here's their "about us" statement copied directly from their site. I've highlighted the pertinent information and provided a link to their site to verify the accuracy of this...

Wenzel Strategies is a public opinion research and media/communications consulting company based in Columbus, Ohio. Wenzel Strategies specializes in marrying the fields of research and communications to produce high quality documentation and strategic communications products for government, non-profit, business, political and lobbying clients. The firm was founded in 2005. The company is headed by President Fritz Wenzel, an award-winning journalist who has wide experience in the fields of strategic and investigative writing, general research, public opinion research, journalism, media, and political and media consultation. As an accomplished public speaker, Mr. Wenzel has presented at more than 130 conferences and meetings.
http://www.wenzelstrategies.com/

These people are nothing but paid shills who cherry pick their data and twist the results to make their "client" look as good as possible. They don't even CLAIM to be impartial or objective! 

It's bullshit.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 10:15:41 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on February 09, 2012, 09:00:35 AM
It's bullshit.

I was pretty sure that there was a good rerason for this coming out this way.  The Obamessiah's minions want the "air of inevitability" to surround them again.  It just may, but in exactly the wrong way.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 01:11:37 PM »
There's a very good reason why I refuse to acknowledge anything from World Nut Daily.  Sorry, guys, just calling it as I see it.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 08:34:13 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on February 09, 2012, 01:11:37 PM
There's a very good reason why I refuse to acknowledge anything from World Nut Daily.  Sorry, guys, just calling it as I see it.

And you're on target. It's just as flaky as Daily Kos or HuffPo.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 06:26:39 PM »
When I saw the headline, I ignored it.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 07:19:48 PM »
Is this the poll where they asked the LRonPaul supporters who they would vote for if LRon wasn't the nominee?  Sounds about right. 
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 09:51:46 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on February 10, 2012, 07:19:48 PM
Is this the poll where they asked the LRonPaul supporters who they would vote for if LRon wasn't the nominee?  Sounds about right. 

Oh I'm sure Megan McLame and her senile daddy, as well as another fat chunk of the "Reach Around Across The Aisle"  RINOs will be marching in lockstep with the Ronulans.

But enough about Megan and her muffin-top...  :fuelfire:
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 10:47:31 PM »
What a load of crap. If they are leaning toward Obummer, they never had (present or past tense) a Repub bone in their body.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 07:52:52 AM »
My take is thus:

1) the poll is bogus, designed to keep republicans home on election day. (this is my vote)
2) democrats LIED, claiming they were republicans.

either way, we cannot trust polls from here on out. Remember Carter Regan. The polls showed neck and neck until election night when the landslide surprised everyone. The media knew the truth long before the election but refused to release the data. Its gonna be the same thing for this election.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 03:05:34 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on February 11, 2012, 07:52:52 AM
My take is thus:

1) the poll is bogus, designed to keep republicans home on election day. (this is my vote)
2) democrats LIED, claiming they were republicans.

either way, we cannot trust polls from here on out. Remember Carter Regan. The polls showed neck and neck until election night when the landslide surprised everyone. The media knew the truth long before the election but refused to release the data. Its gonna be the same thing for this election.

I fully agree with #1.  However, the polls in '80 started to trend Reagan's way after the last debate--"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"  And there was about a week, IIRC, until the election at that point.
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 06:07:25 PM »
Was the 20% figure black ? The reason I ask is...http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/politics_of_color_MDmhUI8zFK19t18kHfrI0M
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Re: 20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 07:49:49 PM »
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