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primitives don't want faith-based college dormitories
« on: January 29, 2009, 04:08:54 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4935876

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The Backlash Cometh  (1000+ posts)     Thu Jan-29-09 12:05 PM
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Faith-based dorms near a public university?

Is this common?

Seminole OKs faith center near UCF despite neighbors' concerns

Seminole County commissioners on Tuesday approved 4-1 a mixed-use development designed to house about 600 students and create a faith-based student center near the University of Central Florida.

About 180 people, many of them UCF students or neighborhood residents, filled commission chambers until about 11 p.m., debating whether an influx of students would affect the quality of life of the community near NorthView, proposed for a site near McCulloch Road and Lockwood Boulevard.

David Theriaque, an attorney for the Carillon Homeowners Association, said his group was fine with the student center and retail, but opposed the housing and a four-story parking garage.

"It's the wrong place. It's too much," he said. "This is an extension of the university any way you slice it."

Catholic Student Center, Jewish Hillel and other groups would attract student residents who would be unlikely to disturb their neighbors.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/custom/growth/orl-u...

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meegbear  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-29-09 12:07 PM
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1. At least students will know where the kegger WON'T be held

Oh, I dunno.

When I was in college, while I had roommates and classmates of all creeds, I noticed that those of the Roman Catholic or Judaic derivation were pretty hefty drinkers, all of us.

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liberal N proud  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-29-09 12:08 PM
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2. Most colleges have one or more campus ministry organizations that have houses near campus housing students.

Look up Newman House, they are on nearly every campus in the country. But many faiths have something.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-29-09 12:11 PM
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3. As long as it's a private facility that doesn't receive state money it's a great idea. Fundy students of all flavors are notoriously hard on their roommates.

I know because I had one.

Of course, I was much more successful at introducing her to sin than she was at bringing me to Jesus, but that's another post.

College is hard enough without having a roommate whose main purpose in life is to convert you to something you don't want.

Oh, I dunno.

I had only two roommates who were hard on me.

One was a humanity-Hating atheist.

The other was a liberal Democrat always trying to convert me to something I didn't want.

All the rest of the roommates, over five years, were winners.

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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-29-09 12:14 PM
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4. article says the housing will be managed by the university and is funded by the UCF foundation. The foundation is probably supported by private donations.

This seems like yet another example of a common situation, where the precise relationship between a university and a faith-based group is *very* hard to pin down.

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Thu Jan-29-09 12:22 PM
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5. That would make it wrong.

However, it would be great to be able to segregate the fundies.

They simply do not play well with other children.

Oh my.

Substitute "blacks" for "fundies" in "to segregate the fundies," and we know where the warped primitive's proclivities lie.

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The Backlash Cometh  (1000+ posts)     Thu Jan-29-09 12:27 PM
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6. UCF has been taken over by the right-wing

And from there, they have been using the UCF name to go into communities to control community development. It is an amazing thing to witness. And not in a good way.

I thought the University of Central Florida has been taken over by football.

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taught_me_patience  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-29-09 12:29 PM
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7. Now students will know where to go when they want to score!

Many of the most pious ones are also the most kinky (allegedly)

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zbdent  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-29-09 01:28 PM
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8. reminds me of a Monty Python bit ...

the apartment complex built by hypnosis ...

as long as the tenants believe it's there, it stays built ...

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dusmcj  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jan-29-09 01:56 PM
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9. will they permit saddlebacking ?

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Libertyfirst  (370 posts)      Thu Jan-29-09 02:22 PM
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10. Catholic and Jewish students don't party? Could I interest you in some Circuit City stock?

franksolich's point, made above.
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Re: primitives don't want faith-based college dormitories
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 04:19:20 PM »
So they'd rather have move in near them, and support, public housing for dope peddling, baby making, welfare receiving, unemployable, dropout, missfits and other riffraff. ....gotcha....just need to know your priorities.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 04:20:00 PM »
So they'd rather have move in near them, and support, public housing for dope peddling, baby making, welfare receiving, unemployable, dropout, missfits and other riffraff. ....gotcha....just need to know your priorities.

That's the impression I get.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 04:21:18 PM »
please excuse my ignorance but what is "saddlebacking"?
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 04:26:07 PM »
please excuse my ignorance but what is "saddlebacking"?

I must've read that too fast when I was copying-and-pasting.

I guess I read it as "barebacking," and moved on.

I suppose it has something to do with that one megachurch in California.

I dunno.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 04:27:09 PM »
please excuse my ignorance but what is "saddlebacking"?

Well, I'm ignorant too....but seeing that came from a liberal....I think I'll stay that way.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 04:30:52 PM »
Well, I'm ignorant too....but seeing that came from a liberal....I think I'll stay that way.

Isn't that megachurch ministered by that one guy the gay primitives Hate called "Saddleback Church" or something like that?

And careless me; I was thinking of "bareback mounting."
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 04:40:39 PM »
I actually saw a definition of "saddlebacking," written by a gay sex columnist named Dan Savage.  If you want me to share it, PM me, as maybe it shouldn't be on our open forum . . . Hint--it involves a man and a woman.
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Re: primitives don't want faith-based college dormitories
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 04:43:24 PM »
Isn't that megachurch ministered by that one guy the gay primitives Hate called "Saddleback Church" or something like that?

And careless me; I was thinking of "bareback mounting."
Dang If I Know......"bareback mounting."...... :rotf:....is that word play on "Brokeback Mountain"....another liberal movie I missed......thank God.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 04:43:50 PM »
I actually saw a definition of "saddlebacking," written by a gay sex columnist named Dan Savage.  If you want me to share it, PM me, as maybe it shouldn't be on our open forum . . . Hint--it involves a man and a woman.

In other words, it's a man and a woman making nice-nice on the saddle of a horse, right?
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 04:44:42 PM »
Dang If I Know......"bareback mounting."...... :rotf:....is that word play on "Brokeback Mountain"....another liberal movie I missed......thank God.



Damn it, Johnny, sir, my brain-cells are short-circuiting today.

I didn't mean "bareback," I meant "brokeback."
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Re: primitives don't want faith-based college dormitories
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 05:03:32 PM »
My Dad's family is Catholic, and of Irish-Alsatian heritage.  I would have to say they generally regard drinking as a means to have something not terribly-incriminating to give up at Confession.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 06:44:36 PM »
so much for the freedom to choose

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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 08:53:58 PM »
Fundy students of all flavors are notoriously hard on their roommates. . . I know because I had one. . . Of course, I was much more successful at introducing her to sin than she was at bringing me to Jesus, but that's another post. . . College is hard enough without having a roommate whose main purpose in life is to convert you to something you don't want.

Well, this DUer takes the cake.

Speaking as a "Fundy" adult who, when I was in college, was a moron and el stupido as that poster , he's/she's got a rude awakening coming.

Proud that he/she helped someone stumble or fall?

That, I suggest, is the essence of the Democrat, liberal and leftist mind and spirit: Pride in causing people problems, seeing them compromise, especially at your hand, rather than encouraging them or helping them grow.

And "College is hard enough without . . ."? Guess that depends on what you're studying and where, and whether or not you should even be in college.

But one purpose of college, you'd think -- and it was when I attended long ago -- would be to actually to introduce students to a true liberal education: not one of politically biased thought or education, but one that allowed exploration of diverse views and opinions and, actually, things like free speech and some respect for people with whom you differed.

That passed, fully, I guess, when the anti-fundy, if not outright atheist and/or agnostic, Baby Boomers populated the faculties of colleges and universities.
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7. Now students will know where to go when they want to score!

Many of the most pious ones are also the most kinky (allegedly)

Well, yes we are but you'll never find out first (or probably even second) hand. Being kinky is a far cry from being slutty. Having fun (even if it involves costumes, handcuffs, and dirty sweat socks) isn't a sin unless you're giving it away to every Tom, Dick, Sheep, and Mary who comes down the pike. Besides, I wouldn't sleep with a liberal if he was the last man on earth, I'd buy a toy and stock up on batteries first.

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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2009, 10:13:37 PM »
I'd buy a toy and stock up on batteries first.

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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2009, 10:51:05 PM »
Hey, the recession is bad enough without us being replaced by automated labor

Well, unless you're a liberal that isn't a problem. I just have this silly little quirk...I like manly men. But it doesn't really matter because I'm married to the love of my life and my Internet heart belongs to frank. He's just too sexy to not stalk all over cyberspace.

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2009, 10:58:35 PM »
Frank is a cool dude. Deserves every stalker he can get.

I don't know how tall he is, but I am 6'2 and a quarter inches

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2009, 10:58:47 PM »
Well, unless you're a liberal that isn't a problem. I just have this silly little quirk...I like manly men. But it doesn't really matter because I'm married to the love of my life and my Internet heart belongs to frank. He's just too sexy to not stalk all over cyberspace.

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2009, 04:15:56 AM »
Hey, the recession is bad enough without us being replaced by automated labor

That and the "smooth from the neck down" comment get you an H5!
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2009, 07:35:40 AM »
That and the "smooth from the neck down" comment get you an H5!

I can remember when men were men.....they didn't mind hacking their way through the 'bush' to get what they wanted. Although I did, on rare occasions, find a less obstructed path somewhat .....easier and more rewarding.

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Re: primitives don't want faith-based college dormitories
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2009, 07:55:44 AM »
Imagine, if you will, an article about local residents opposing a fundamentalist muslim-only or a womyns'-only student housing project...
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2009, 08:01:20 AM »
Imagine, if you will, an article about local residents opposing a fundamentalist muslim-only . . . student housing project...

Not within the realm of imagination in most of the U.S.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2009, 08:01:39 AM »
Imagine, if you will, an article about local residents opposing a fundamentalist muslim-only or a womyns'-only student housing project...

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2009, 09:17:45 AM »
That whole contradiction has me utterly flummoxed.  Does anybody have a superlib friend who can enlighten me? 
You see alot of posters who are absolutely paranoid about Christians.  They say the worst things about them, and then top them off with snarky comments like "go compare your crucifixes."  But, bring up the muslims and they go all squishy.  As we know, Muslims have some very strict lifestyle rules that are anathema to many lefties, particularly the San Fran variety.  They are disrespectful to women and blacks, believing both to be inferior.  Why are the lefties not paranoid about Muslims?

I asked these questions to lefties on another blog.  (They were trolling, so I thought I'd ask my captive audience).  They glossed over the questions with some non-sequitor or denial.  I told them that this stuff is true, I know, I was married to a Muslim.  They came back and said "So that makes you an expert?"  I said "well, yes, sure it does."  They disappeared.