« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.  (Read 7010 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Mr Mannn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14885
  • Reputation: +2646/-276
Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« on: March 16, 2009, 05:40:12 AM »
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.+1388:
People this is just scary.
HR 1388, will hit the House floor on Tuesday.It is called the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (The Give Act.) The House is scheduled to Rule this week. Sponsored by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy (NY), Education and Labor Committee. The objective is to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

Democrat Rep. McCarthy is sponsoring the bill with 25 co-sponsors, ALL Democrats, including Charlie Rangel. Need I say more.
Quote
From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
MANDATORY! 3 years of service for all students.
The program talks about earning "educational awards" via this service.
What I suspect is the plan:

(1) Establish this "national service" as a way to get federal student aid for college;

(2) Soon to be followed by a reduction/elimination of other forms of federal student aid;

(3) Thus mandating a successful term of service as a condition for the non-wealthy getting through college. This term of service will take place under conditions where political orientation will be closely examined, indoctrination will be thorough, and the work will be for the benefit of Leftist organization.

I predict that this will be seen as a way to ensure that only the politically-correct will have access to professional careers.

This is it people. The link goes to the bill itself. I have no idea if it will pass congress. But 0bama was serious when he spoke of national service, and a national security corps.

I have never thought the things I have been thinking about any other president. As much as I despaired under Clinton's administration of corruption and graft, it was nothing to the deliberate destruction of the economy and basic freedoms we are seeing under 0bama.

PRAY for America. We are reaping what we have sown for so long.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2009, 05:42:33 AM by Mr Mannn »
Logged

Offline Mr Mannn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14885
  • Reputation: +2646/-276
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 05:40:58 AM »
From the site: The Co-Sponsors
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 3/12/2009
Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 3/9/2009
Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 3/12/2009
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 3/12/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 3/12/2009
Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 3/9/2009
Rep Klein, Ron [FL-22] - 3/12/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 3/12/2009
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 3/12/2009
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/12/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 3/12/2009
Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 3/9/2009
Rep Sestak, Joe [PA-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 3/12/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 3/9/2009
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 3/12/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 3/12/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 3/12/2009
Logged

Offline Mr Mannn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14885
  • Reputation: +2646/-276
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 05:41:51 AM »
another quote
Quote
Part of Title VI says:

SEC. 6107. POWERS OF COMMISSION.

(a) Hearings and Sessions- The Commission may, for the purpose of carrying out this title, hold public hearings, sit and act at times and places, take testimony, and receive evidence as the Commission considers appropriate.

So they are going to "try" us? Receiving evidence? Act as they consider appropriate??

(b) Powers of Members and Agents- Any member or agent of the Commission may, if authorized by the Commission, take any action which the Commission is authorized to take by this section.

And they may deputize others to act in their behalf?

(c) Obtaining Official Data- Upon request of the Chairperson, the head of any department or agency shall furnish information to the Commission that the Commission deems necessary to enable it to carry out this title.

Privacy laws do not apply to 0bama youth.

(d) Physical Facilities and Equipment- The Architect of the Capitol, in consultation with the appropriate entities in the legislative branch, shall locate and provide suitable facilities and equipment for the operation of the Commission on a nonreimbursable basis.

They can take your city hall, your HOUSE, your food, or your weapons ladies and gentlemen!
Violating unreasonable search or seizure provisions in the constitution. But then democrats don't respect the constitution.
Logged

Offline Baruch Menachem

  • In a handbasket, heading to a warm destination
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1019
  • Reputation: +37/-18
  • do the best you can with what you can
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 07:34:51 AM »
Did 0bama do Peace corps or anything like that?
Logged
An optimist sees the glass as half full, a pessimist sees the glass as half empty, an engineer sees that there is twice the glass required to contain the beer

My name is Obamandias, King of Kings, 
  Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Offline thundley4

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 40571
  • Reputation: +2222/-127
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 07:40:47 AM »
Quote from: Baruch Menachem on March 16, 2009, 07:34:51 AM
Did 0bama do Peace corps or anything like that?

He may have wanted to join the Black Panthers, or the Nation of Islam, but he new it wouldn't be politically expedient.  :fuelfire:
Logged

Offline djones520

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4207
  • Reputation: +181/-146
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 07:49:14 AM »
I don't see how this will pass the 13th Amendment.  I still don't understand how Selective Service (IE. Draft) isn't a violation of it either, but I doubt this is going to fly.
Logged
"Chuck Norris once had sex in an 18 wheeler. Some of his semen dripped onto the engine. We now call that truck Optimus Prime."

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2828/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 07:59:13 AM »
Despite the long list of whack jobs "co-sponsoring" this POS legislation, including Rangel and Kook-sin-ich, this bill isn't going anywhere.

Even still, I have no problem with reducing federal aid to stoodents. Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, anyone? Using that as justification to keep this POS bill from being enacted won't wash with me.

It's simply bad legislation. Enticing people to serve the state by dangling a carrot or two precisely angles into the moonbat liberal agenda of statism, nanny-style.

Along with this thing is a provision to amend the 1973 Domestic Volunteer Service Act. Why? Because it's VOLUNTEER.

And the so-called "Points of Light Foundation" is to be repealed. Hallalujah.  :whatever:

National Volunteer Antipoverty Programs amended. Yeah. Right.

Here's an interesting provision:

Quote
`(12) encourage national service efforts to address pressing national challenges, such as improving education for low-income students, increasing energy conservation, and improving the health, well-being, and economic opportunities of the neediest individuals in the Nation;

Who determines who is "low-income" and who are the "neediest individuals in the Nation"? Moonbatism run amok.

This one pisses me off:

Quote
`(18) encourage members of the Baby Boom generation to partake in service opportunities.'.

**** you, asshole. As a boomer, I don't need your "encouragement" to do anything but vote NO for your ass.

There's lots more moonbat where this POS came from.   :thatsright: 
Logged
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline Magog

  • Probationary (Probie)
  • Posts: 7
  • Reputation: +0/-2
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 08:03:25 AM »
Sounds a bit like Hitler youth, doesn't it?
Logged

Offline NHSparky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24431
  • Reputation: +1278/-617
  • Where are you going? I was gonna make espresso!
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2009, 08:07:41 AM »
Quote
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 3/12/2009

I'm going to melt the cable modem tonight.
Logged
“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.”  -Henry Ford

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2828/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 08:11:09 AM »
Here's that "Sense of Congress" bullshit again:

Quote
`It is the sense of Congress that the number of participants in the programs authorized under subtitle C, including the Volunteers in Service to America (VISTA) and the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC), should grow to reach 250,000 participants by 2014.'.

A quarter million little Nazis by 2014. Think about it.
Logged
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1707/-151
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 08:30:28 AM »
1.  This wouldn't actually establish such a system, it calls for an examination of whether one could be implemented - the answer to which is a foregone conclusion with at least two-thirds of the Reps from both parties, who know it would be political suicide for their own re-election chances to actually vote for really implementing it, but who can safely straddle the fence between posturing and taking a real position by voting to 'study' it. 

2.  McCarthy is a cuckoo, and anything she does to piss people off is good for the real humans. Same for the rest of the wackos on that list.

Logged
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline thundley4

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 40571
  • Reputation: +2222/-127
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 09:10:14 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on March 16, 2009, 08:11:09 AM
Here's that "Sense of Congress" bullshit again:

A quarter million little Nazis by 2014. Think about it.

It would be more than that if they let the ones that voted for him volunteer.  Most would join even without any incentive except to stomp on the "rich" people.
Logged

Offline jinxmchue

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3841
  • Reputation: +114/-26
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 09:31:44 AM »
Quote from: Magog on March 16, 2009, 08:03:25 AM
Sounds a bit like Hitler youth, doesn't it?

Yep.  Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
Logged

Offline mamacags

  • Smells like teen spirit
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4281
  • Reputation: +444/-113
  • Little Miss Cranky Pants
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 02:06:30 PM »
MrMannn do you mind if I cross post this over at Stinky and Nethog's place?
Logged
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Winston Churchill

Offline PoliCon

  • Probationary (Probie)
  • Posts: 77
  • Reputation: +10/-0
  • Political Conservative
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 02:27:31 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on March 16, 2009, 05:40:58 AM
From the site: The Co-Sponsors
Rep Altmire, Jason [PA-4] - 3/12/2009
Rep Andrews, Robert E. [NJ-1] - 3/9/2009
Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 3/12/2009
Rep Courtney, Joe [CT-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 3/12/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15] - 3/9/2009
Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 3/12/2009
Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 3/9/2009
Rep Klein, Ron [FL-22] - 3/12/2009
Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 3/12/2009
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 3/12/2009
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/12/2009
Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 3/9/2009
Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 3/12/2009
Rep Sablan, Gregorio [MP] - 3/9/2009
Rep Sestak, Joe [PA-7] - 3/9/2009
Rep Shea-Porter, Carol [NH-1] - 3/12/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 3/9/2009
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [MD-8] - 3/12/2009
Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 3/12/2009
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 3/12/2009
Jason Altmyer is a tool.  He's from a neighboring district. I wanna puke every time I hear his name mentioned because I know how ridiculous his position is going to be. 
Logged
Stand up for what is right, even if you must stand alone.

Offline NHSparky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24431
  • Reputation: +1278/-617
  • Where are you going? I was gonna make espresso!
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2009, 02:48:22 PM »
Quote from: PoliCon on March 16, 2009, 02:27:31 PM
Jason Altmyer is a tool.  He's from a neighboring district. I wanna puke every time I hear his name mentioned because I know how ridiculous his position is going to be. 

Shea-Porter (Che-Porter, as she's known) is too friggin stupid to have any ideas of her own, but she'll follow whoever is the nuttiest one in the can.
Logged
“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.”  -Henry Ford

Offline Eupher

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24894
  • Reputation: +2828/-1828
  • U.S. Army, Retired
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2009, 03:35:32 PM »
I sent a very strong "suggestion" to my congressman, Blaine Luetkemeyer. He actually has a set of 'nads, which is encouraging to see.
Logged
Adams E2 Euphonium, built in 2017
Boosey & Co. Imperial Euphonium, built in 1941
Edwards B454 bass trombone, built 2012
Bach Stradivarius 42OG tenor trombone, built 1992
Kanstul 33-T BBb tuba, built 2011
Fender Precision Bass Guitar, built ?
Mouthpiece data provided on request.

Offline mamacags

  • Smells like teen spirit
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4281
  • Reputation: +444/-113
  • Little Miss Cranky Pants
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2009, 03:56:26 PM »
Quote from: PoliCon on March 16, 2009, 02:27:31 PM
Jason Altmyer is a tool.  He's from a neighboring district. I wanna puke every time I hear his name mentioned because I know how ridiculous his position is going to be. 

Hey, we must be neighbors then! :cheersmate:
Logged
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Winston Churchill

Offline Zathras

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3403
  • Reputation: +455/-71
  • This is the way.
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 04:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Magog on March 16, 2009, 08:03:25 AM
Sounds exactly like Hitler youth, doesn't it?

Fixed...unfortunantly this goes right over the head of your average Obamatron.
Logged
Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf

If racist dog whistles are meant to be only heard by racists, then it is quite interesting how progressives seem to be the only people who can hear them. - Leonydus Johnson

What makes a good soldier? The ability to fire 3 rounds a minute in any weather. - Major Richard Sharpe

Offline ReardenSteel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3462
  • Reputation: +204/-18
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 04:27:55 PM »
Quote
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Logged
"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."

- Ayn Rand
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1826

Offline Mr Mannn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14885
  • Reputation: +2646/-276
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2009, 05:04:24 PM »
Quote from: mamacags on March 16, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
MrMannn do you mind if I cross post this over at Stinky and Nethog's place?
Not at all. The more who know this the better.
Logged

Offline Hawkgirl

  • Alpha Female
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4291
  • Reputation: +186/-73
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2009, 05:14:59 PM »
 :o
Someone post an update on this tomorrow.....
Logged

Offline The Village Idiot

  • Banned
  • Probationary (Probie)
  • Posts: 54
  • Reputation: +96/-15
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2009, 05:16:45 PM »
slavery
slavery
slavery
Logged

Offline The Village Idiot

  • Banned
  • Probationary (Probie)
  • Posts: 54
  • Reputation: +96/-15
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2009, 05:19:52 PM »
Quote from: Zathras on March 16, 2009, 04:20:15 PM
Fixed...unfortunantly this goes right over the head of your average Obamatron.

the dummies would love state slavery
Logged

Offline seabelle

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 752
  • Reputation: +43/-7
  • "she walked into the cave...she was not afraid"
Re: Obama Youth Bill now before congress. 3 years MANDATORY service.
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2009, 08:09:25 PM »
Oh my..... :censored:



Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
« previous next »