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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2013, 04:32:43 PM »
I am happy for you that in your lifetime you have never had to depend on government largess.  50% of us, or more, are not in the same boat.  Good thing we had some, miniscule social safety net to protect us ... from you and those who think like you.

Stuff happens.  Most of the poor people I know became poor through no fault of their own.  They got unlucky.  It's that simple.  I hope you never get unlucky.  If you do, I hope your ideology bites you in the buttocks.

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You aren't asking for a ****ing safety net. You want everyone and their frigging Uncle Joe to receive $1000 a month for life just because they breathe air and fart it out. It is one thing to provide temporary assistance to someone who has fallen on hard times while they get back on their feet. Quite another for paying them to lay there and stay there.

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« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2013, 04:33:18 PM »
I am happy for you that in your lifetime you have never had to depend on government largess.  50% of us, or more, are not in the same boat.  Good thing we had some, miniscule social safety net to protect us ... from you and those who think like you.

Stuff happens.  Most of the poor people I know became poor through no fault of their own.[/b]...and remain poor because like you they sit on their ass and whine. Oh ****ing boo hoo. Get off your ass and stop waiting for some democrat politician to steal something and give it to you.  Do something dammit even if it's wrong. They got unlucky.  It's that simple.  I hope you never get unlucky.  If you do, I hope your ideology bites you in the buttocks.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2013, 04:36:42 PM »
I didn't even get that....daddy said, "You put your feet under my table, you sleep in my bed, under my roof, there are things you have to do around here to keep getting that."

I guess it was about the same on any farm.

I grew up in the suburbs, not on the farm, but my parents had the same policy.  When I asked for an allowance for my chores, my mom told me that they were my expected contribution to the household, not something I should be paid for.  I babysat in my early teens for my spending money, and got a job at 17 for more steady spending money :-)

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« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2013, 04:44:08 PM »
I grew up in the suburbs, not on the farm, but my parents had the same policy.  When I asked for an allowance for my chores, my mom told me that they were my expected contribution to the household, not something I should be paid for.  I babysat in my early teens for my spending money, and got a job at 17 for more steady spending money :-)
Good for you. I bet you're a lot like my older sister, a good soul. Times were better when my baby sister came along and daddy spoiled her by giving her everything, land, house, money.....she married a lazy bastard and worshipped the ground he walked on. She used her kid to milk daddy for all she could get Now we're all getting old and she's miserable.

Reminds me, I need to call and check on the good sister and her husband.
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« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2013, 04:44:35 PM »
I'll never understand the entitlement group.  I've had my share of rough spots and never had anything given to me.  I think I collected unemployment once for three days before I started another job.





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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2013, 04:45:09 PM »
Even I will concede that $50k/year is extraordinary and excessive, but that just shows how far the U.S. is out of line with all the rest of the liberal democracies in the world.  Personally, I'd be happy with a $1,000.00/month ($12k/year) minimum income.  No doubt, most of the posters on CC would consider this outrageous.  No surprise, really.  Heaven forbid, we might be giving a little money to people who are undeserving.



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The thing is, there are many who are able to work but won't.  A lot of these are the ones who will hop onto the minimum income bandwagon without doing any of the minimum work.

As it is now a minimum wage job will give over $15K per year (roughly $1300/month) an amount that meets your threshhold - but so many want the $ without the work.  Those are the leeches that most of us have issues with.
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2013, 04:46:24 PM »
I grew up in the suburbs, not on the farm, but my parents had the same policy.  When I asked for an allowance for my chores, my mom told me that they were my expected contribution to the household, not something I should be paid for.  I babysat in my early teens for my spending money, and got a job at 17 for more steady spending money :-)

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2013, 04:58:24 PM »
So, can a DUmmy just waltz on over to Switzerland, hop the border and be granted amnesty, be given a driver's license and get all these bennies and a free education? What is stopping the Dummies from racing over there by the boatful?

They would have to save up for the boat/plane ticket. That cuts into their drug money.
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« Reply #58 on: October 04, 2013, 05:05:03 PM »
They would have to save up for the boat/plane ticket. That cuts into their drug money.
People sponsor foreign exchange students....maybe each of us could sponsor one DUmmie each a one way no return ticket to the and of free milk and honey?

The tax burden on your kids and grandkids would more than offset your initial expenditure.....if when all DUmmies were gone we killed off all the remaining democrat politicians. Hey, Obama's buddy Bill Ayers wanted to kill off 25,000,000 of us so I figure we're owed a few thousand DUmmie politicians.
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2013, 05:07:24 PM »
Now from the mouth of a bona fide DUmmy. No doubt about it.

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4. But it's over "pay inequality" so do you have to work? Is this basically a minimum wage?

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« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2013, 05:10:15 PM »
People sponsor foreign exchange students....maybe each of us could sponsor one DUmmie each a one way no return ticket to the land of free milk and honey?

I would do it. In fact, I would buy a ticket to any socialist or communist country of their choice.

 
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2013, 05:19:58 PM »
I am happy for you that in your lifetime you have never had to depend on government largess.  50% of us, or more, are not in the same boat.  Good thing we had some, miniscule social safety net to protect us ... from you and those who think like you.

Stuff happens.  Most of the poor people I know became poor through no fault of their own.  They got unlucky.  It's that simple.  I hope you never get unlucky.  If you do, I hope your ideology bites you in the buttocks.

-Laelth

Bovine organic waste matter.  I've been thru harder times growing up than you EVER have. I'm sure many people here can say the same thing. Not once did I think to blame someone else for my "bad luck".  I've had a job of some kind or another since I was 8 and could push a lawn mower and deliver papers. That money was to help out the family because Pa Perky did not believe in welfare. Things were damned tough here back in the late 70's.

I have been formally unemployed exactly 1 week and 2 days since 1981, the day I turned 16. The 2 days were when I was 17 and got fired cause the manager pissed me off, and the week was when I was leaving 1 job and going to another and took a week in between to go on vacation.

No loser, luck had nothing to do with it. I have worked harder and longer than everybody else at every job I ever had. So much so that I never had to worry about being laid off.  Company I worked for one time folded. I went out to all my clients that day, told them the company went tits up, and had 6 job offers to do the same thing I was doing. Had a job by noon.

No, luck has nothing to do with it. You make your own luck.

Now that does not mean I do not support having a safety net for someone that has hit hard times. Everyone needs a helping hand along the way from time to time. The way it has turned out is that the safety net is now a cradle.  Too many people with your way of thinking. Sooner or later, you will outnumber the people that think like me and it will all fall apart. See Greece for reference.

I don't care though. I and my kind will survive. Your kind will shrivel up and die. Rightfully so in my opinion. It happens in nature to the wildlife, it will happen to your type.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2013, 05:33:05 PM »
$1000/month is fine with me but you will have to give up your right to vote.
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« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2013, 05:54:12 PM »
Laelth...where does this free money come from?
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Good question. Quoting so our liberal but buddy can answer.

Louis Farakahn disagreed with Karl Marx in a speech. He said that religion was not the opiate of the masses, free money was.

I think Laelth (than handle sounds so freaking gay), is salivating of free stuff and is unable to contemplate where such monies must come from.
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he/she is salivating over the concept that one party will literally enslave millions of otherwise able bodied people to the democrat party through dependance on govt handouts. This is money for nothing. Work is not needed to obtain this.

Further, I doubt Laelth has any concept of the sheer damage this will do to the economy in a few years.

Laelth, you are stupid far and beyond normal stupid. Only a brain dead liberal could see any benefit to this.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2013, 05:56:52 PM »
$1000/month is fine with me but you will have to give up your right to vote.

DAMNED RIGHT!!!!!

I think the right to vote should be only for the ones that actually PAY taxes.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2013, 06:02:06 PM »
DAMNED RIGHT!!!!!

I think the right to vote should be only for the ones that actually PAY taxes.



I agree with that, DD. H5!!!
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2013, 06:02:43 PM »
Just eat at home and then drive by the window and watch the DUmmies starve to death......it'll be a great learning experience for the kids.

 :-)   Nah, I don't eat that crap anyway.....


So Lie-eth(D)Ummy, why can't you answer the question?

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2013, 06:06:29 PM »
Sorry, my freind, the United States is awesome--the greatest empire the world has ever seen, and I am proud of it. It could be better, admittedly, but that's another question altogether.  We spend less than all the other liberal democracies on the planet (as a percentage of GDP) protecting our poor people, and that's shameful, but it would be easy for us to guarantee every American citizen a minimum income of $12k/year.  Why aren't we doing that?



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Because they're getting 5 times that in services already?  :shucks:
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« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2013, 06:07:44 PM »
Holy hell. I'm working 60 hour weeks and making only about 2200 a month (damn you salary!)

I need to move to Switzerland.
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« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2013, 06:11:58 PM »
I am happy for you that in your lifetime you have never had to depend on government largess.  50% of us, or more, are not in the same boat.  Good thing we had some, miniscule social safety net to protect us ... from you and those who think like you.

Stuff happens.  Most of the poor people I know became poor through no fault of their own.  They got unlucky.  It's that simple.  I hope you never get unlucky.  If you do, I hope your ideology bites you in the buttocks.

-Laelth

I've lost everything - twice.  Never had to take a handout, never needed government largess, never sat with my hand out and whined.

Maybe you should look to spread my work ethic and determination?  :shucks:
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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2013, 06:35:42 PM »
Holy hell. I'm working 60 hour weeks and making only about 2200 a month (damn you salary!)

I need to move to Switzerland.

You get to keep a fully automatic battle weapon at home as a bonus. Wonder if the DUmmies have overlooked that little part?
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« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2013, 07:07:28 PM »
If this country were to do this, we need to at least be honest and rename what we call ourselves, because it wouldn't really be the United States of America anymore. In fact, we're moving away from being able to call it that everyday we become more and more liberal.

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« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2013, 07:18:55 PM »
 Personally, I'd be happy with a $1,000.00/month ($12k/year) minimum income.

Nah, let's do $2,800/mo per person. If we're going to go full bore stupid, might as well make it pedal to the metal and get it over with.

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2013, 07:38:56 PM »
Sorry, my freind, the United States is awesome--the greatest empire the world has ever seen, and I am proud of it. It could be better, admittedly, but that's another question altogether.  We spend less than all the other liberal democracies on the planet (as a percentage of GDP) protecting our poor people, and that's shameful, but it would be easy for us to guarantee every American citizen a minimum income of $12k/year.  Why aren't we doing that?

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Re: Swiss to vote on $2,800 monthly income for all adults - DUmmies drool
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2013, 07:40:34 PM »
Nah, let's do $2,800/mo per person. If we're going to go full bore stupid, might as well make it pedal to the metal and get it over with.

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