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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2012, 01:07:30 PM »
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2012, 01:11:06 PM »
Lesson learned, moonbats. Those companies? You know, the ones that provide you with a job and a paycheck, all for bartering your work? Yeah, they're owned by the owners. Here's another brainbuster for you 'bats, those companies? Yeah, they're in the business to make a profit, NOT provide you idiots with jobs.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2012, 01:13:03 PM »
They were warned by the company!

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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2012, 01:20:06 PM »
That guy didn't sound very bright. 

I hate unions.  Years ago union markets and the teamsters went on strike.  It lasted for four months over Thanksgiving and Christmas.  Containers of food were rotting out in the harbor because there was no one to unload it, drive it to market or stock it at the stores.

Ever since then I won't shop at union stores unless I absolutely have no choice.  You can save a lot of money not shopping union too.

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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2012, 01:38:16 PM »
Xnks, Rebel.  :cheersmate:
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2012, 01:39:45 PM »
Welcome to a fundamentally transformed America DUmbasses.

I want America to feel pain, lots of it. Pain is necessary so that one knows when one is doing something stupid. Pain is a necessary for survival.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2012, 01:55:05 PM »
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Welcome to a fundamentally transformed America DUmbasses.

I want America to feel pain, lots of it. Pain is necessary so that one knows when one is doing something stupid. Pain is a necessary for survival.

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The greedy unions wanted it they got it....
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2012, 05:14:06 AM »
Great vid at link.

Company states that if the strike hurts the business, they will close everything.

http://www.freep.com/VideoNetwork/1965133952001/Hostess-plans-to-close-3-bakeries-due-to-strikes&odyssey=mod|video||umbrella
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2012, 08:10:28 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on November 14, 2012, 05:14:06 AM
Great vid at link.

Company states that if the strike hurts the business, they will close everything.

http://www.freep.com/VideoNetwork/1965133952001/Hostess-plans-to-close-3-bakeries-due-to-strikes&odyssey=mod|video||umbrella

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Hostess to liquidate if bakers' strike continues through Thursday

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Hostess to liquidate if bakers' strike continues through Thursday

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Hostess Brands said Wednesday that it will go into liquidation unless bakers striking in protest against a new contract imposed in bankruptcy court return to work by the end of the day Thursday.

"We simply do not have the financial resources to survive an ongoing national strike," Hostess CEO Greg Rayburn said in a statement.

The liquidation would result in Hostess' nearly 18,000 workers losing their jobs. The bakers' union represents around 5,000.

The union did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday, but has called the concessions demanded in the new contract "outrageous."

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1. So drop the demands for concessions and settle with the strikers. Not rocket science.

I think the Twinkie fumes may have warped management's brains.

I think Twinkie something rotted your brain.

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3. Would be even better if the bakers and workers

opened their own shops, making actual "food" instead of a mass of chemicals with HGCS, artificial flavorings, etc.

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10. There's something to that...let Hostess go under, then take over its plants

and run them as health baked goods co-ops. They could probably get funding for that.

In fact, that's what should happen in MOST outsourced U.S. business plants...closed factories, bakeries, stores, what have you. Run them as co-ops and create a humane, dignified, democratic business model.

Actually, if possible, the strikers should occupy the Hostess plants NOW...and prepare to run them themselves a.s.a.p. if Hostess chooses to close them.

You f**king idiot.  The plant building and equipment will be sold off to satisfy creditors.  Hostess is not just going to walk off and abandon the buildings.

God, DUmmies are so stooooopid.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2012, 08:20:49 PM »
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10. There's something to that...let Hostess go under, then take over its plants

and run them as health baked goods co-ops. They could probably get funding for that.

In fact, that's what should happen in MOST outsourced U.S. business plants...closed factories, bakeries, stores, what have you. Run them as co-ops and create a humane, dignified, democratic business model.

Actually, if possible, the strikers should occupy the Hostess plants NOW...and prepare to run them themselves a.s.a.p. if Hostess chooses to close them.

I see that the DUmmy is not familiar with the concept of brand recognition.

If Hostess goes under, their name goes with them. Your unionized drug addict bakers would have to come up with a product name and a marketing staff that pays homage to Madison ave. to get the name on every bodies tongue.

It seems to me that they would become part of the 1%.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2012, 08:23:15 PM »
Why not just send the armed Obamagruppen in to seize their property now and get it over with?  ******* thugs.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2012, 08:54:38 PM »
Somebody slap Ken Burch upside his stupid head.  Good Lord.  :mad:

Hostess needs to move to a business friendly state like mine where there are no unions and they can prosper.

 
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2012, 09:07:37 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on November 14, 2012, 08:23:15 PM
Why not just send the armed Obamagruppen in to seize their property now and get it over with?  ******* thugs.

That is closer to becoming a reality than we want to believe.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2012, 09:19:26 PM »
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10. There's something to that...let Hostess go under, then take over its plants

and run them as health baked goods co-ops. They could probably get funding for that.

In fact, that's what should happen in MOST outsourced U.S. business plants...closed factories, bakeries, stores, what have you. Run them as co-ops and create a humane, dignified, democratic business model.

Actually, if possible, the strikers should occupy the Hostess plants NOW...and prepare to run them themselves a.s.a.p. if Hostess chooses to close them.


Please, a democratic business model?  No creditor is going to allow you to operate at a deficit every year.

So who the f&^k is gonna run the business DUmmy, the Keebler Elves?

You jack@sses know little about money, even less about business, and wouldn't be able to secure funding even from your Messiah the "O", and he gives money away like it is going out of style.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2012, 08:38:22 AM »
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10. There's something to that...let Hostess go under, then take over its plants

and run them as health baked goods co-ops. They could probably get funding for that.

I'm sure if Hostess liquidates, the Trustee in the bankruptcy would be delighted to sell it to them, IF they actually got the capital (Fat chance) and were the high offer (Double fat chance)...of course that would be without any of the product rights or the use beyond scrap value of any of the proprietary/trademark product machinery, like the Twinkie molds or the CNC software to put the curls on top of the cupcakes...
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2012, 08:51:52 AM »
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10. There's something to that...let Hostess go under, then take over its plants

and run them as health baked goods co-ops. They could probably get funding for that.

 A health food co-op?  Yeah,  that's a great idea, go for it....  :rotf:

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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2012, 08:53:46 AM »
Judging from the last picture thread, ain't no DUmmies shopping at "health food co-ops" either.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2012, 08:58:02 AM »
"Let them (strikers) eat cake"
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2012, 12:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Dori on November 15, 2012, 08:51:52 AM
A health food co-op?  Yeah,  that's a great idea, go for it....  :rotf:



The only way to improve on this brilliant idea would be to go on the honor system or allow consumers to decide what to pay you for the products after consumption. 

If memory serves another failed restaurant experiment tried that business model. 

I will let you guess the outcome.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2012, 04:02:18 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on November 13, 2012, 03:23:23 AM
This is the same shit that happened in 1979 under Carter I (Obama II?) to the International Harvester Company.

IH was struggling under Carternomics, and the UAW decided they wanted more, and went on strike for 6+ months.

In the end, Tenneco bought IH, and merged it with J. I. Case.

I hope every f'n one of those union bastards starve to death!!!!

True.

I watched it happen. Many of my family's friends and family lost jobs or had to transfer to Navistar. Others were able to take a job with Case. Case later closed local tractor plants yet kept a combine plant. Then, years later,  Case-IH was bought out by New Holland, closed the combine plant in East Moline, IL and moved to a non union plant in Grand Island, NE.

Union folks don't seem to realize that all the equipment is bolted to the ground and can be moved. The empty building will sit for a few years. East Moline, IL has a better view of the Mississippi River now and the UAW local went up the same river with all those jobs.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2012, 04:04:18 PM »
Quote from: 67 Rover on November 15, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
The only way to improve on this brilliant idea would be to go on the honor system or allow consumers to decide what to pay you for the products after consumption. 

Hey, this sounds like how DUmpmonkeys get their stars.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2012, 08:16:20 PM »
The only good thing about the union workers taking over would be the fun of watching them deal with the government bureaucracy their philosophy has wrought.

I remember after 0bama bought GM for his union cronies, they wanted out of the actual work of running the company ASAP.

I wonder why they didn't transform GM into an organic car making co-op run on democratic principles?
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2012, 08:44:07 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on November 14, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
I see that the DUmmy is not familiar with the concept of brand recognition.

If Hostess goes under, their name goes with them. Your unionized drug addict bakers would have to come up with a product name and a marketing staff that pays homage to Madison ave. to get the name on every bodies tongue.

It seems to me that they would become part of the 1%.

Yeah, but they could use some similar but altered product names that fit the lib lifestyle.

Twinkies could become Stinkies.
Ding Dongs could become Diseased Peckers.
HoHos could become Crack Hos.
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Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2012, 10:20:19 PM »
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This is why we need an EMERGENCY Executive Order from President Obama to prevent businesses from closing down without permission from the government to prevent job loss, especially when Obamacare is taken into consideration which the union is trying to preserve. This is intolerable, and the owners can easily cough up a few bucks to prevent this atrocity.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear the stupid son of a bitch was a mole. That is Directive 10-289 from Atlas Shrugged!

Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

BanTheGop, why don't you come back over here and defend this shit?
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Re: Re: Hostess Bakeries closing the doors because union went on strike- You own it
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2012, 11:48:36 PM »
Banthegop, do you ever read the shit you write before you post it?

How about the president issue an executive order reminding the striking workers that they should be happy they have a job in this bad economy and to get their lazy ungrateful asses back to work or they will be fired without any unemployment benefits?
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