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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 12:24:41 PM »
I've been through a painful year myself.  When my 3rd grader started bringing home "E's" in math (wtf?  why not just an "F"?) I realized how badly they'd failed her in 1st and 2nd grade - she was still doing addition and subtraction on her fingers, so of course multiplication blew her away.  I had to make her the table, and I had to drill her with flash cards, and I asked myself daily what the hell they were doing in the classroom>?????  Great post, and your kid has great parents.   :cheersmate:

I understand completely...and my son has been in the "supposedly" advanced classes. They've probably got her on that "Lattice"(sp) multiplication stuff.... throw it out and teach her the old fashion way. By forth grade, they shouldn't have to stop and think what 9X7='s or any other of the simple numbers... it should come to mind instantly.
That has been my sons biggest problem with algebra...certain numbers should really stick out, like squares and cubes of numbers....they didn't in his mind. We spent the Christmas holidays going over stuff he should have been able to readily recognize.

BTW His daddy is a dunce when it comes to english or as they call it, Languge Arts. Momma takes care of that subject and he's doing well in it.

  
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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 02:01:35 PM »
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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 03:06:28 PM »
I love how the teachers are all for the strike--screw the kids, it's all about meeeeeee!!!

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2010, 03:37:27 PM »
Yeah but I'm not sure it's worth sacrificing a child's education. If you have a kid that learns in the traditional way and is above average intelligence public school is a fine choice. Education's not a one size fits all thing, though. By 4th grade they'd run out of spelling words for me and I had to "sit quietly at my desk" while everyone else was practicing their words and taking their tests. For my youngest son, they failed him miserable because he was tracked as having a learning disability. When we started homeschooling he couldn't tell time past the quarter hour. By the time he graduated college he was in Calculus and had (with time and maturity and practice) learned the skills needed to succeed in that kind of atmosphere.

Besides, they may have to live in a world with them but as adults we can choose who we want to be friends with, what we want to achieve, and what we want to learn. My son was one of the "good" kids. And I kid you not, teachers have said this to me, they put the worse little turds next to him constantly hoping "his calming influence would rub off" on the little turd. Considering all the times he came home complaining (which sent me to school on his behalf) it didn't work. He doesn't have to deal with those people in real life (granted most of them are probably in jail, but he doesn't have to make 'prison guard' a career choice.

I know a few hardcore democrats, but they're nothing like the idiots at the dump, I don't need people like that in my life and as an adult I can choose to avoid them except in the most fleeting of ways. In government schools that's not the case. We're put in arbitrary groups based on age and with kids from the neighborhood (so much for diversity). Just as in real life, homeschoolers socialize with people of a variety of ages, younger and older. Most homeschoolers joke that "homeschooling" is a misnomer because they spend most of the time in their car. In our area there was Latin (with ages 9-adult), Destination Imagination, math and investment clubs, science classes, etc. My son, at least once a week while he was consumed with curiosity, talked with NASA scientists and astronauts in the online chats they host. He developed leadership qualities I don't think he would have otherwise.

Some kids thrive in public school and that's fine but it needs to be seriously overhauled and I just didn't think it was worth sacrificing my son to. If he was more successful at that kind of learning, maybe. But until there's a mass exodus or some other extreme measure by families who pay for and are supposed to be served by public school it won't change. There's no incentive and it's just to easy to let the status quo be.

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My Dad was hit head on by a drunk when I was 5. Didn't have kinndey garden back then. He was in a full body cast for 8 months in our living room. His legs were broke, he took the steering wheel through his rib cage, to say nothing of the internal damage. He told me while he was in a coma, ( it lasted 6 months ), that he was the greatest mexican bandit that ever lived.

While he was in the coma, they just had him laid out with his legs elevated and what looked like to a chid of 5, 100's of straight pins holding muscles and tendons in place so they would heal. Once he came back to us, they pretty much had to put a plaster cast over his entire body!

While he was healing, he taught me how to read. He had no use of his arms as they were casted onto the main body cast. They didn't want him to move at all! The only way he got the news was thru me. My older sister had started school and my mother worked 10 hours a day at "the bank" ( wink, wink ). Took a while, but thru phonetics and repetition, he taught me to read. I found out later Mom was having a good 'ol time while I was takin' care of Dad. We don't have a very close releationship for this reason.

I taught reading in the first and second grade in Westminster CO., when I was but a young lad. It created a bond between me and Dad that lasted until the day his injuries finally got the better of him. His accident happened in 1958, he lived until '86 when pneumonia put him in hospital and his liver failed. He was 55, damn it! He was a prince of a man and deserved to live twice as long!

I still remember reading Dick Tracy to him so he could keep up on the villains of the day. One of my fondest memories!
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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 12:21:27 AM »
My Dad was hit head on by a drunk when I was 5. Didn't have kinndey garden back then. He was in a full body cast for 8 months in our living room. His legs were broke, he took the steering wheel through his rib cage, to say nothing of the internal damage. He told me while he was in a coma, ( it lasted 6 months ), that he was the greatest mexican bandit that ever lived.

While he was in the coma, they just had him laid out with his legs elevated and what looked like to a chid of 5, 100's of straight pins holding muscles and tendons in place so they would heal. Once he came back to us, they pretty much had to put a plaster cast over his entire body!

While he was healing, he taught me how to read. He had no use of his arms as they were casted onto the main body cast. They didn't want him to move at all! The only way he got the news was thru me. My older sister had started school and my mother worked 10 hours a day at "the bank" ( wink, wink ). Took a while, but thru phonetics and repetition, he taught me to read. I found out later Mom was having a good 'ol time while I was takin' care of Dad. We don't have a very close releationship for this reason.

I taught reading in the first and second grade in Westminster CO., when I was but a young lad. It created a bond between me and Dad that lasted until the day his injuries finally got the better of him. His accident happened in 1958, he lived until '86 when pneumonia put him in hospital and his liver failed. He was 55, damn it! He was a prince of a man and deserved to live twice as long!

I still remember reading Dick Tracy to him so he could keep up on the villains of the day. One of my fondest memories!

What a lovely memory! Thanks for sharing that! It is truly amazing what love and determination can accomplish.

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2010, 08:34:38 AM »
My Dad was hit head on by a drunk when I was 5. Didn't have kinndey garden back then. He was in a full body cast for 8 months in our living room. His legs were broke, he took the steering wheel through his rib cage, to say nothing of the internal damage. He told me while he was in a coma, ( it lasted 6 months ), that he was the greatest mexican bandit that ever lived.

While he was in the coma, they just had him laid out with his legs elevated and what looked like to a chid of 5, 100's of straight pins holding muscles and tendons in place so they would heal. Once he came back to us, they pretty much had to put a plaster cast over his entire body!

While he was healing, he taught me how to read. He had no use of his arms as they were casted onto the main body cast. They didn't want him to move at all! The only way he got the news was thru me. My older sister had started school and my mother worked 10 hours a day at "the bank" ( wink, wink ). Took a while, but thru phonetics and repetition, he taught me to read. I found out later Mom was having a good 'ol time while I was takin' care of Dad. We don't have a very close releationship for this reason.

I taught reading in the first and second grade in Westminster CO., when I was but a young lad. It created a bond between me and Dad that lasted until the day his injuries finally got the better of him. His accident happened in 1958, he lived until '86 when pneumonia put him in hospital and his liver failed. He was 55, damn it! He was a prince of a man and deserved to live twice as long!

I still remember reading Dick Tracy to him so he could keep up on the villains of the day. One of my fondest memories!

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2010, 04:11:45 PM »
It's a great story, Allosaurs.

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2010, 01:19:00 AM »
It's a great story, Allosaurs.



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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2010, 01:26:48 AM »
Dang You Allo. I can anyone to give me real feedback on my SF story! I am so bummed.  :p

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2010, 02:01:07 AM »
Dang You Allo. I can anyone to give me real feedback on my SF story! I am so bummed.  :p

Sorry Bubba, wasn't my intention.

Dad drove truck for as long as I can rember. I drove an 18 wheeler before I drove a car. When his legs started bothering him, I kept the truck on time. I was only 12. He was definitely my best friend for 50 years.

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2010, 03:57:49 PM »
Remember this?  Well, I marked it on my calender and went searching.  The only things that came up on google were:
Posts by DU
Posts by cons. cave
Article in the San Fran Gate.

Well, it looks like San Fran and Berk are the only places anyone showed up.  They've got photos if you want to see the filthy hippies.  If not, here's what I saw:
 
25-50 or so bedraggled people.  The photographer recycled the people to make it look bigger, but they were the same signs.  Plus the same lone Iranian girl with a headscarf.

One guy had a sign that said "March Forth"  I'm sure it was a play on words

Another guy was writing on a wall:  "Demand Everything"   ::)

One sign said "No Cuts!  Defend Ethnic Studies!"   ::)

"Schools not Prisons!" 

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Berzerkely had a rally, too.  A few more people, maybe 75-100.  They look exactly how you'd imagine. 

"Students of Color on Strike!"   And that inconveniences me how?

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2010, 04:05:27 PM »


Well, it looks like San Fran and Berk are the only places anyone showed up.  They've got photos if you want to see the filthy hippies.  If not, here's what I saw:
 
25-50 or so bedraggled people.  The photographer recycled the people to make it look bigger, but they were the same signs.  Plus the same lone Iranian girl with a headscarf.

So there were more organizations that endorsed this "strike" than people that actually showed up?

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2010, 04:07:56 PM »
So there were more organizations that endorsed this "strike" than people that actually showed up?

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Sure sounds like it!

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2010, 04:19:15 PM »
So there were more organizations that endorsed this "strike" than people that actually showed up?

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To be fair, most of them were each a member of 15 or more of the organizations on the list!

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2010, 05:01:04 PM »
Not even a certain high school in Rhode Island?

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2010, 05:04:09 PM »
Not even a certain high school in Rhode Island?

I would have thought those teachers had some free time.  :fuelfire:

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2010, 05:05:36 PM »
I would have thought those teachers had some free time.  :fuelfire:

I would think so

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Re: "Strike and National Day of Action to Defend Public Ed" 3/4/10
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2010, 05:56:42 PM »
 :rotf:...for the first time in a long time, I watched some of the TV alphabet news.... and right there in the middle of one of the crowds they showed was ....wait for it...
a TROOFER ....carrying a sign that said "9/11 TRUTH".... :rotf:

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