primitive gets off bus number 0

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3977421

Oh my.

And if one remembers, the "no quality of life" primitive, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, the "Proud2BLib" primitive, had a month ago complained about the young Obamaites condescending to old Democrat warriors.

dembotoz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 06:53 PM
Original message

getting off the obama bus (rant)
   
I am a long time local party member(former chair) in a VERY republican area.

Recruitment of candidates has always been a problem (lambs to the slaughter)

This year COULD have been different. Couple of excellent candidates to run for state assembly.

Our best shot in years--literally years.

Just spoke to the local county obama honcho at her county office that we helped her find.

There will be NO cooperation between the big campaigns and our little ones.

No combined lit drops

no campaign lit for the little candidates on display at obama office

candidates not allowed at obama house meetings

canvassers not allowed to mention locals

phone bankers not supposed to mention locals

the list goes on--you get the idea.

the office treats our own candidate with the same disdain as we treat republicans.

Some local canidates get treated better.

Those that some fool in the state captital decided a few months ago were worthy of being targeted.

Ain't no candidate in my county gonna get targeted. EVER

So obamas bunch comes in

sucks up our resources

sucks up our volunteers.

sucks up our fundraising possiblities

When these local candidates came on we promised we would help them---That IS supposed to be what we do......

But now we can't because we have been effectively castrated by the national campaign and our ignorant state party.

So i guess i will have to bow out of all obama activities because somebody has to help the locals and after our obama person leaves to go back out of state, i still might see the local candidates on the street and i may want to be able to look them in the eye.

The Obamaite primitives start spinning, like the rinse cycle in a washing machine:

ogneopasno  (211 posts) Thu Sep-11-08 06:55 PM
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1. It's rarely a good thing when national campaigns come in to the local level.
   
It happens. It happens all the time. It hurts and it's ugly and it's gross. You feel like shit. I've been there. You need to decide what you can honorably do -- and I think you have -- and then do it. Good luck. It's not fun. And it happens every cycle.

elehhhhna  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 08:02 PM
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7. It's strategic and nasty & called POLITICS. Been there. I feel your pain...
   
but OB WILL help your downticket candidates by simply being on the ballot AND reg'g LOTS of new voters.

dembotoz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 09:50 PM
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10. they are not even inclined to mention there are other dems on the ballot

LSparkle  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 06:56 PM
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2. OMG, this sounds like what Hillary's 2000 Senate campaign did to Gore
   
sucked all the OXYGEN AND MONEY out of the room. I'm

REALLY disappointed in Obama if he thinks this is the way we're going to elect MORE DEMS.

Calling Dr. Dean! Get your candidate on the phone and remind him of the 50-STATE STRATEGY!

samuraiguppy  Donating Member  (372 posts) Thu Sep-11-08 06:59 PM
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3. I am so sorry. keep up the good fight
   
we need to get lots of Democrats into office!

silex  (29 posts) Thu Sep-11-08 07:09 PM
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4. I know.
   
We made listing of the local candidates here and starting donating to them directly.Their were a few who donated to candidates in others states too.

BlueDogDemocratNH  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 07:14 PM
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5. The Obama campaign is doing the right thing
   
They are in this race to win the White House. Period.

State and local party organizations are made up of people who have other agendas. Sometimes, they put those agendas ahead of what's best for the national ticket. They try and blackball activists who aren't part of their clique, and they treat newbies with suspicion. That's not Obama's m.o., and that's a good thing.

My state's Democratic Party is headed by Clinton people, and they are more concerned about the Shaheen race than they are with Obama. I can't blame Obama's campaign for keeping a discrete distance. I would be concerned about national resources intended for Obama being reallocated to the senate race, or even to down-ballot races where the candidate is in the good graces of the party chair.

qwlauren35  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 07:58 PM
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6. I feel for you.
   
When I was in NC, local Dems worked side by side with the Kerry campaign, literally. The Kerry campaign and the Dems basically split the building.

I hate to say it, but I think I understand why the Obama campaign has taken this position. If you are in a state that is heavily Republican, and the Obama campaign is focused on flipping Republican voters, they simply cannot mingle with you...

So, you must choose.

In my opinion, if your state is solid red and cannot be flipped, then you SHOULD focus on the local races and get off of the Obama bus, especially if there are small pockets of Democrats who will vote in a candidate if someone just wakes them up.

If I had the energy to help you, I would. But all I can truly do is tell you that I completely respect your decision and wish you the best with your local races.

mwooldri  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 08:05 PM
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8. I personally feel that there should be a unified party...
   
but in the case of NC, I can see why it's split up.

At the federal level we've returned Repuke Presidents and Repuke US Senators.

At the state level, we've got a lock on the State House and State Senate.

At the local level it depends where you are. Urban areas tend to be Democratic, rural areas Repuke.

dembotoz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-11-08 09:48 PM
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9. yeah i gotta spend my time with the locals
   
so i can sleep at night.

thank you folks for your insights

[jukin]

The Obama will not even help his brother living in a hut on $12/month....you seriously think that a super egomaniac like that would help a down-ticket candidate.  I bet they will work you for as much money and volunteer work as they can though.

[franksolich]

The Obama will not even help his brother living in a hut on $12/month....you seriously think that a super egomaniac like that would help a down-ticket candidate.  I bet they will work you for as much money and volunteer work as they can though.

That's one dollar a month, sir, not twelve.  Twelve's for the whole year.

As incredible as it may seem, yes, there are hundreds of millions, if not billions, who live on that, and less.

Most of them in socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all.

Been there, seen that.

[GOBUCKS]

The Obama will not even help his brother living in a hut on $12/month....you seriously think that a super egomaniac like that would help a down-ticket candidate.  I bet they will work you for as much money and volunteer work as they can though.

But his grandmother got a solar panel and a lockbox from Algore.

[Chris_]

And the worm turns....

hussein is losing - when on his ascendancy he didn't extend a hand to rais the underticket up.  But in his descendancy he grabs the ankles of all else.

It isn't about the Presidency any more -- it is about control of Congress.
 

[jukin]

And the worm turns....

hussein is losing - when on his ascendancy he didn't extend a hand to rais the underticket up.  But in his descendancy he grabs the ankles of all else.

It isn't about the Presidency any more -- it is about control of Congress.
 

If McCain is opening office here in the People's Republic of California they and the RNC think so too.

Frank, thanks for the correction.