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Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« on: June 02, 2017, 05:34:58 PM »
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029148970

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MineralMan (94,560 posts)     Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:57 AM

Yesterday, my wife said something I'd never thought she would say:
 
"You know, maybe we should start thinking about moving out of the country?"

She's still a few years from Social Security age, and my parents are still around at age 92, so the time is not right for this possibility. However, if things don't start turning around in 2018, we may well start thinking about where we might go as expatriates. There are a number of possibilities, of course, so perhaps I'll start looking at annual living costs, etc. for some of them.

Both my wife and I speak conversational French, and I'm OK in Spanish and Russian. Russian's right out, although there are a few former Soviet bloc nations that are possibilities, and where Russian is still commonly spoken. Spanish seems more useful, though, and there are a number of countries where US expatriates live in sizable numbers.

Still, I'd like to stay right here, so could we all please work together to reverse this ugly trend, starting right now? That'd be great.

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InAbLuEsTaTe (8,038 posts)    Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:06 AM

6. I'm with her! I'm thinking of moving to Canada...
 
though I think Bernie will fix things in 2020. Still holding out hope.

One suspects Methuselah's going to succumb of old age before 2020.

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Bonx (1,265 posts)    Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:20 AM

9. I'm liking Canada too. Can't be too hard for a good progressive to emigrate

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EllieBC (435 posts)      Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:17 PM

51. It is actually not easy.
 
I'm a permanent resident of Canada. You can't just show up. You need a sponsor, be that a spouse or another relative or an employer. Or you need to have money. And you can't be too old or in poor health. And while your paperwork is in process, which can take a good year or more, you cannot work or get healthcare or pretty much do anything.

Most countries do not have an open door.

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WinkyDink (47,651 posts)     Fri Jun 2, 2017, 03:16 PM

41. Not every US govt benefit follows; something to research.

One surely hopes not; probably even social security checks shouldn't pass beyond the border.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 05:46:16 PM »
Why not try Uganda or maybe the Congo, the weather is warm and it is cheap to live there.

Canada is tough, they already have their own liberal freeloaders to take care of.

As far as Eastern Europe goes I am sure they will be happy to hear your socialist / communist leanings. :-) :-) :-) :-)
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 05:58:45 PM »
Quote from: Old n Grumpy on June 02, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Why not try Uganda or maybe the Congo, the weather is warm and it is cheap to live there.

Canada is tough, they already have their own liberal freeloaders to take care of.

As far as Eastern Europe goes I am sure they will be happy to hear your socialist / communist leanings. :-) :-) :-) :-)

Why not right over the southern boarder to Mexico?
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 06:04:23 PM »
Quote from: Old n Grumpy on June 02, 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Why not try Uganda or maybe the Congo, the weather is warm and it is cheap to live there.

Canada is tough, they already have their own liberal freeloaders to take care of.

As far as Eastern Europe goes I am sure they will be happy to hear your socialist / communist leanings. :-) :-) :-) :-)

I hear Zimbabwe is great, especially this time of the year. Or maybe that South American socialist Paradise, Venezuela.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2017, 06:48:12 PM »
I cannot encourage this line of thinking enough.  Please go and renounce your citizenship to show you are truly committed to the cause.

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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2017, 06:55:19 PM »
I think that Venezuela would be great for the DUches. they love its government policies and they should use their giant intellect to turn things around.

I got a hunski that say not a single one of the DUchebags moves.
1. The other countries don't want anymore parasite.....unless they are muzzies.
2. They are DUches and barely get to the bathroom everyday. Much less uproot their lives.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2017, 07:03:57 PM »
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MineralMan (94,560 posts)     Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:57 AM

Yesterday, my wife said something I'd never thought she would say:
 
"You know, maybe we should start thinking about moving out of the country?"

I would donate for your moving costs as long as you renounce your US citizenship completely.  I bet you would get enough donations that you could move cost free.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2017, 07:13:42 PM »
Why are they concerned about Canadian immigration laws? They don't give a shit about ours.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2017, 07:27:16 PM »
Unless you have a few million to invest or are an indigent from a 3rd world hellhole, immigrating to Canada is impossible.  And they WILL jail you then deport your ass faster than you can say "hypocrite."
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 07:28:58 PM »
Quote from: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 02, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
Why are they concerned about Canadian immigration laws? They don't give a shit about ours.

1. Canada enforces their laws.

2. Enforcement action would affect them (i.e. the DU members).
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2017, 08:03:39 PM »
Quote from: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 02, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
Why are they concerned about Canadian immigration laws? They don't give a shit about ours.

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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2017, 10:30:43 PM »
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EllieBC (435 posts)      Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:17 PM

51. It is actually not easy.
 
I'm a permanent resident of Canada. You can't just show up. You need a sponsor, be that a spouse or another relative or an employer. Or you need to have money. And you can't be too old or in poor health. And while your paperwork is in process, which can take a good year or more, you cannot work or get healthcare or pretty much do anything.

Most countries do not have an open door.

And yet ................

Personally, I would love to see you subhuman, viscous ass-spew leave.  Anywhere.

Or, die.

Mostly, die.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2017, 10:43:57 PM »
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MineralMan (94,560 posts)     Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:57 AM

Yesterday, my wife said something I'd never thought she would say:
 
"You know, maybe we should start thinking about moving out of the country?"

She's still a few years from Social Security age, and my parents are still around at age 92, so the time is not right for this possibility. However, if things don't start turning around in 2018, we may well start thinking about where we might go as expatriates. There are a number of possibilities, of course, so perhaps I'll start looking at annual living costs, etc. for some of them.

Both my wife and I speak conversational French, and I'm OK in Spanish and Russian. Russian's right out, although there are a few former Soviet bloc nations that are possibilities, and where Russian is still commonly spoken. Spanish seems more useful, though, and there are a number of countries where US expatriates live in sizable numbers.

Still, I'd like to stay right here, so could we all please work together to reverse this ugly trend, starting right now? That'd be great.

How about North Korea or Afghanistan.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2017, 11:05:40 PM »
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40. Those who survive will be those who flee

The right wing is extremely violent and well-armed, and they've completely infiltrated the military and police apparatus, in addition to having capable militias and inchoate death squads.

We have orders to shoot on sight anyone we see who is wiggle waggling their armpits.  You've been warned.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2017, 07:26:29 AM »
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How about North Korea or Afghanistan.

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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2017, 08:11:37 AM »
French President Offers Refugee Status to U.S. Liberals
Macron invites Americans upset over Trump exit from climate pact to find a 'second homeland'


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“I wish to tell the United States: France believes in you. The world believes in you. I know that you are a great nation. I know your history, our common history.”

“To all scientists, engineers, entrepreneurs, responsible citizens who were disappointed by the decision of the president of the United States, I want to say that they will find in France a second homeland. I call them: Come and work here, with us, to work together on concrete solutions for our climate, our environment. I can assure you, France will not give up the fight.”
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2017, 08:22:37 AM »
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Yesterday, my wife said something I'd never thought she would say:


"You know, maybe we should start thinking about moving out of the country?"

She's still a few years from Social Security age, and my parents are still around at age 92, so the time is not right for this possibility. However, if things don't start turning around in 2018, we may well start thinking about where we might go as expatriates. There are a number of possibilities, of course, so perhaps I'll start looking at annual living costs, etc. for some of them.

Both my wife and I speak conversational French, and I'm OK in Spanish and Russian. Russian's right out, although there are a few former Soviet bloc nations that are possibilities, and where Russian is still commonly spoken. Spanish seems more useful, though, and there are a number of countries where US expatriates live in sizable numbers.

Still, I'd like to stay right here, so could we all please work together to reverse this ugly trend, starting right now? That'd be great.

The stupid old blowhard running his mouth about how he's some kind of master of foreign languages.  It was just a couple of weeks ago when the dumb ass was asking how to translate Marine Le Pen's name from French into English.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029027363
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I'm confused. Is it LePen, Le Pen or Lapin?

The first two don't translate from French to English, but the third does.
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3. What? It's Le Pen. That's her name. No translation needed.
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4. Oh. Thanks so much!

You've cleared that up for me.

Derp.

What a dolt.
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2017, 09:00:38 AM »
"Conversational" French - knowing how to ask where the bathroom is and how to call over the waiter who has been ignoring them ... in an accent so bad that people laugh behind their back.

Less scarcastically, conversational (any language) is not sufficient to discuss business or ideas.  MM is kidding himself. It would take him a year or two of immersion to start to be able to discuss his business, hobbies, and political ideas.

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40. Those who survive will be those who flee

The right wing is extremely violent and well-armed, and they've completely infiltrated the military and police apparatus, in addition to having capable militias and inchoate death squads.

Normally I'd respond with

:urmeds:

But this lunacy is beyond the capability of any meds. (S)He needs to be committed before (s)he goes off like that Bern-Stein supporter in Portland!
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2017, 09:01:34 AM »
Quote from: Delmar on June 03, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
The stupid old blowhard running his mouth about how he's some kind of master of foreign languages.  It was just a couple of weeks ago when the dumb ass was asking how to translate Marine Le Pen's name from French into English.

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Derp.

What a dolt.
Nice catch.  :cheersmate: I'm guessing that the DUmbshits grasp of "conversational French" consists of watching Corporal Louis LeBeau on Hogans hero's.  :-)
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2017, 09:49:08 AM »
Mexico and Venezuela were great recommendations for the DUmmies.

How about Cuba?
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Re: Minnesota Moses pleads primitives to not leave the U.S.A.
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InAbLuEsTaTe (8,038 posts)    Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:06 AM

6. I'm with her! I'm thinking of moving to Canada...
 
though I think Bernie will fix things in 2020. Still holding out hope.

I think the DUmpasses keep forgetting...
Canada is refusing to accept the freeloaders... only muslims need apply.
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InAbLuEsTaTe (8,038 posts)    Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:06 AM

6. I'm with her! I'm thinking of moving to Canada...
 
though I think Bernie will fix things in 2020. Still holding out hope.

I think the DUmpasses keep forgetting...
Canada is refusing to accept the freeloaders... only muslims need apply.


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