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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: gore_bites on June 10, 2010, 05:26:01 PM
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-10-10 06:21 PM
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I'm out of here
Peace guys, it has been real. Just received a moderator message to stop being critical of the President. Funny thing is, I've been relatively supportive of the President over the oil spill, actually more supportive than I've been in about 6 months about most administration actions. Hell, even the tone of my criticism is tempered from what it was a few months ago. Evidently the site is taking another direction. Cool with me. Would rather walk out than to wake up like Debbie did or a few others did to some BOG celebratory orgy. I'm sure they will have one anyway, good for them, for a group of people supposedly getting what they want they sure are angry.
The message said you are free to leave. So be it.
Been real kids.
We live in interesting, times. We do certainly indeed.
Administrators, do with the account what you wish.
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OK guys....what's the over/under on him showing up here again?
doc
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This DUmmie is begging for pizza.
Oregone (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-10-10 06:24 PM
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15. No. We need to purge dissent
What happens on a small forum like DU is uber critical for the success of our Chosen Leader, blessed be His name.
Oregone (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-10-10 06:23 PM
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6. "do with the account what you wish"
You could PM someone the login info so they can unleash the gates of hell in your absence! Have some creativity....you know how we all feel about "Group think", eh?
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OK guys....what's the over/under on him showing up here again?
doc
whiney assed ego cock muncher that he is? 60/40.
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whiney assed ego cock muncher that he is? 60/40.
Close enough for me.......I noticed the "guest" count goes up everytime I hit refresh....... :tongue:
doc
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Purge dissent? I thought it was something you idiots love...Oh WAIT.....!
:loser:
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The only thing in bigger supply than peace and tolerance at the DUmp is diversity of opinion.
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OK guys....what's the over/under on him showing up here again?
doc
I would say 99% he will 1% he won`t.
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There may be yet another purge in the making. Just before dinner I was looking at a thread which dealt with forming a labor party with unions and working folk. The topic has apparently gone down the rabbit hole. Fair enough it would be a violation of the TOS for Democrat Underground. What surprised me was the how quickly it happened. They have some hair triggers over there today.
Will AJ show up? I am with the 60/40 crowd. Long as he plays nice who cares?
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Will AJ show up? I am with the 60/40 crowd. Long as he plays nice who cares?
Let us not forget what happened last time.......he came over here for what appeared to be a "civil converstion", then ran over to some liberal board that he is a mod on, and spent the next few days lying about how he was treated here......proving, of course that liberals lie......all the time.......
He's a snake......
doc
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Has this ever happened at DU before? so many longtime posters just exiting?
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Let us not forget what happened last time.......he came over here for what appeared to be a "civil converstion", then ran over to some liberal board that he is a mod on, and spent the next few days lying about how he was treated here......proving, of course that liberals lie......all the time.......
He's a snake......
doc
Well you do make an excellent point which I had forgotten about.
I am projecting this thread to disappear shortly:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8530467
More primitives are advocating labor or third parties. Bad dummy, no cookie for you. :rotf: A few more banning and scrubbings and things will be back to abnormal.
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Well you do make an excellent point which I had forgotten about.
I am projecting this thread to disappear shortly:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8530467
More primitives are advocating labor or third parties. Bad dummy, no cookie for you. :rotf: A few more banning and scrubbings and things will be back to abnormal.
From that thread:
dana_b (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-10-10 03:04 PM
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11. If the teamsters joined with the
teachers who joined with the machinists who joined with the nurses who joined with the pilots and flight attendants who joined with the police and fire fighters who joined with the long shoremen who joined with the.... well you get the idea. It would be amazing!!!
I think Dana orgasmed typing that post.
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Pretty soon, Skinner will have to find another job. Seems like all the old-timers are leaving. It will soon be just the admins and the moles ;)!
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Pretty soon, Skinner will have to find another job. Seems like all the old-timers are leaving. It will soon be just the admins and the moles ;)!
Badmouthing your old post are we? Conservatives don't like turncoats.
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Badmouthing your old post are we? Conservatives don't like turncoats.
Um, I've been badmouthing DU since I got here. Kinda the first thread I started. And I don't care what YOU think of me. I've made that pretty clear I am sure.
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Um, I've been badmouthing DU since I got here. Kinda the first thread I started. And I don't care what YOU think of me. I've made that pretty clear I am sure.
whatever DUmmy....you don't fool me.
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whatever DUmmy....you don't fool me.
Ok. Reply to someone who does care what you think. k thanks BYE
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Ok. Reply to someone who does care what you think. k thanks BYE
I will challenge your BS DUmmy, every time I see it.
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I will challenge your BS DUmmy, every time I see it.
Let's keep it civil.....and on topic please.....
doc
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Let's keep it civil.....and on topic please.....
doc
How is it off topic? Aren't we talking about DUmmies who left?...isn't Soleil a DUmmy who left DU?
And don't we dedicate a whole subforum to challenging DUmmies?
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-10-10 03:04 PM
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11. If the teamsters joined with the
teachers who joined with the machinists who joined with the nurses who joined with the pilots and flight attendants who joined with the police and fire fighters who joined with the long shoremen who joined with the.... well you get the idea. It would be amazing!!!
You would have PRECISELY what exists today in Californication, New Jersey, and Connecticut - a bankrupt state, FORCED MASS-LAYOFFS, reduction of all community services like a firefighter to extinguish your meth lab fire, the paramedic that would breathe life into your grandmother after her 4th heart attack, AND, most importantly, a queer school teacher that will teach the wonderful experiences of anal sex, fisting, felching, and hamster anal insertions to your ten year-old chitlens.
Looks to me you would deserve all you get from paying ten dollar an hour employees 35 dollars an hour.
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You would have PRECISELY what exists today in Californication, New Jersey, and Connecticut - a bankrupt state, FORCED MASS-LAYOFFS, reduction of all community services like a firefighter to extinguish your meth lab fire, the paramedic that would breathe life into your grandmother after her 4th heart attack, AND, most importantly, a queer school teacher that will teach the wonderful experiences of anal sex, fisting, felching, and hamster anal insertions to your ten year-old chitlens.
Looks to me you would deserve all you get from paying ten dollar an hour employees 35 dollars an hour.
It forever amazes me that they truly believe money/wealth is conjured from nothing.
That if you pay someone a huge wage (that they crave for doing nothing) that money is simply stockpiled and waiting for them.
As stupid as it can get.
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How is it off topic? Aren't we talking about DUmmies who left?...isn't Soleil a DUmmy who left DU?
I'd say that your comment to another CC member, who is no longer a member of DU is off-topic.
You and others like to crow about the lack of free speech over there, and blather on endlessly about inviting them over here for an "open" discussion, but on the rare occasion when actually that happens, you appear to endorse anything BUT "free speech".......
Therefore, it logically follows that the question remains.....do you believe in free expression here or not. I'd argue that if the answer is no......then we should shut up about "free speech", and admit that we are, in a number of ways, no different than they......just different politics.....
You point and laugh at their lack of tolerance, and call them hypocrites.......yet are we not displaying the same lack of tolerance?
"Physician, heal thyself......."
doc
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I'd say that your comment to another CC member, who is no longer a member of DU is off-topic.
You and others like to crow about the lack of free speech over there, and blather on endlessly about inviting them over here for an "open" discussion, but on the rare occasion when actually that happens, you appear to endorse anything BUT "free speech".......
Therefore, it logically follows that the question remains.....do you believe in free expression here or not. I'd argue that if the answer is no......then we should shut up about "free speech", and admit that we are, in a number of ways, no different than they......just different politics.....
You point and laugh at their lack of tolerance, and call them hypocrites.......yet are we not displaying the same lack of tolerance?
"Physician, heal thyself......."
doc
Doc, can you point to where I said she is not allowed to have a point of view?
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I have a question...Is Soleil on "protected status" by CC moderators? Are we not allowed to challenge her posts because she has been exiled from DU?
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Doc, can you point to where I said she is not allowed to have a point of view?
You didn't. But you basically said you will reply to me any time you see me "to call out my BS". So you want to start something. You can't have peace. An otherwise tame topic, you want to make a fight. I make a point to stay away from you, yet you seek me out. Just stop it already. Have you not gotten your point across already? I'm pretty sure you have.
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Geez, they deep-sixed the whole freakin' thread.
:rotf:
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I have a question...Is Soleil on "protected status" by CC moderators? Are we not allowed to challenge her posts because she has been exiled from DU?
Are you really serious? Have you seen what others have posted to me? Please. Maybe, just maybe IT IS YOU. Let it go. Your point has been made. Many times over.
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You didn't. But you basically said you will reply to me any time you see me "to call out my BS". So you want to start something. You can't have peace. An otherwise tame topic, you want to make a fight. I make a point to stay away from you, yet you seek me out. Just stop it already. Have you not gotten your point across already? I'm pretty sure you have.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
:loser:
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Are you really serious? Have you seen what others have posted to me? Please. Maybe, just maybe IT IS YOU. Let it go.
Do you know that this forum has a whole subforum that simply exists to make fun of people like you. I understand that you were exiled from DU and now need a new "home"....but you're still a warped DU'er in my eyes.
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I left DU on my own. And if you get your jollies making fun of me, by all means do so on your own. But let others here have some peace. Everything doesn't have to be drama. And I am just sayin', and I feel pretty confident about it, people would like to move on. Since I am here, and will still be here, LET IT GO. Or at least PM people to make fun of me. PM me if you want to duke it out. Keep this mess out of everyone else's way.
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Geez, they deep-sixed the whole freakin' thread.
:rotf:
OMG! are they suppressing the union threads?
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I have a question...Is Soleil on "protected status" by CC moderators? Are we not allowed to challenge her posts because she has been exiled from DU?
No, she is not......
This was her initial post......
Pretty soon, Skinner will have to find another job. Seems like all the old-timers are leaving. It will soon be just the admins and the moles !
After which, you attacked her......
Badmouthing your old post are we? Conservatives don't like turncoats.
I would take the same action if someone were to do that to you......
The thread topic is ATJ's departure, and the DU thread surrounding those actions......perhaps you can see where the "off topic" position comes from.
doc
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I left DU on my own. And if you get your jollies making fun of me, by all means do so on your own. But let others here have some peace. Everything doesn't have to be drama. And I am just sayin', and I feel pretty confident about it, people would like to move on. Since I am here, and will still be here, LET IT GO. Or at least PM people to make fun of me. PM me if you want to duke it out. Keep this mess out of everyone else's way.
I will continue to challenge your posts because your ideology should not go unchallenged, especially at a place that is supposed to pride itself on crushing the ideals of those of your ilk.
So no, I will not PM you or anyone else...if I say anything to you or about you...it will be in CLEAR VIEW.
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I have a question...Is Soleil on "protected status" by CC moderators? Are we not allowed to challenge her posts because she has been exiled from DU?
No,she is not protected and will not be afforded any special privileges to be able to post here as some sort of "see we are tolerant" mascot.
We often have stated that and any DUmmy is welcome to register and post here as long as they follow the rules which includes not being trollish.
That can be changed if desired and do know that ZOT threads on FR can be fun and comical whenever someone posts a leftist view.
We just should be honest about that though and IMO only,if a person comes here from the DUmp and acts civilly despite disagreeing we should be honest to our word or at least say you can sign up here and not be banned at the first sign of leftism but expect to be treated harshly.
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No, she is not......
This was her initial post......
After which, you attacked her......
I would take the same action if someone were to do that to you......
The thread topic is ATJ's departure, and the DU thread surrounding those actions......perhaps you can see where the "off topic" position comes from.
doc
If someone were to do that to me? I didn't leave a conservative board only to show up on a lib board and try to pass myself off as someone I am not. I'm pretty consistent Doc. I don't like turncoats and Soliel is one of them. You are obviously more tolerant to libs than I am. Frankly, it's tolerance of libs that has gotten us to where we are now.
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I will continue to challenge your posts because your ideology should not go unchallenged, especially at a place that is supposed to pride itself on crushing the ideals of those of your ilk.
So no, I will not PM you or anyone else...if I say anything to you or about you...it will be in CLEAR VIEW.
So you will challenge anything I say? That is what you are saying? Even if it has nothing at all to do with our different views? What a waste of time.
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If someone were to do that to me? I didn't leave a conservative board only to show up on a lib board and try to pass myself off as someone I am not. I'm pretty consistent Doc. I don't like turncoats and Soliel is one of them. You are obviously more tolerant to libs than I am. Frankly, it's tolerance of libs that has gotten us to where we are now.
Show me where I have been a "turncoat". I have posted some pretty unpopular things here. I am not being someone I am not. And in fact, if you happen to have a mole at DU, PLEASE OH PLEASE search my posts. I am sure you will find they are consistent with everything I have posted here.
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I will continue to challenge your posts because your ideology should not go unchallenged, especially at a place that is supposed to pride itself on crushing the ideals of those of your ilk.
So no, I will not PM you or anyone else...if I say anything to you or about you...it will be in CLEAR VIEW.
Not in this thread.......if you want to take it to "Fight Club" be my guest........you might want to refresh your memory about the forum rules.....particularly the one where it says that the moderator's decision is final.....
This discussion is over......
doc
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Not in this thread.......if you want to take it to "Fight Club" be my guest........you might want to refresh your memory about the forum rules.....particularly the one where it says that the moderator's decision is final.....
This discussion is over......
doc
Nah, I'm not taking this to the "fight club" This discussion is over, Mr. Moderator.
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Show me where I have been a "turncoat". I have posted some pretty unpopular things here. I am not being someone I am not. And in fact, if you happen to have a mole at DU, PLEASE OH PLEASE search my posts. I am sure you will find they are consistent with everything I have posted here.
The "discussion is over" part goes for you as well....
doc
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(http://miskie.net/DUborg.jpg)
I think I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this recent Photoshop :-)
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stolen :-)
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stolen :-)
Feel free - If I post it here - its free to steal & spread :-)
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You should make one for the DNC.
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You should make one for the DNC.
good plan - I still have the photoshop source - Ill whip that up tomorrow
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(http://miskie.net/DUborg.jpg)
I think I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this recent Photoshop :-)
Stolen! :cheersmate:
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Miskie -- that's fantastic!! Borg is the perfect description for those idiots. As for ATJ, he seems to change his "persona" every couple of months depending on what board he's posting on . . . he's not a big believer in stating honest beliefs.
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Are you really serious? Have you seen what others have posted to me? Please. Maybe, just maybe IT IS YOU. Let it go. Your point has been made. Many times over.
I'm still waiting for your answer regarding HIV and the gay community. But meh--you think time will make it go away.
That's why we have search functions here.
ETA: I think ATJ will show up here eventually, but after this thread dies down. Street cred, dontcha know.
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I'm still waiting for your answer regarding HIV and the gay community. But meh--you think time will make it go away.
That's why we have search functions here.
ETA: I think ATJ will show up here eventually, but after this thread dies down. Street cred, dontcha know.
I am not thinking it will go away. I thought we were done with that discussion. And what does that have to do with this topic anyway? I don't want this topic to get locked. I didn't start this topic, and it would be a shame if it got locked because of things being said to me that are completely off topic. If you'd like, PM me.
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Um, I've been badmouthing DU since I got here. Kinda the first thread I started. And I don't care what YOU think of me. I've made that pretty clear I am sure.
Troll in French is still troll.
brûlé par le Soleil
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Be careful boys...we've been told to make the newcomer feel welcomed.... Excuse me while I go :puke:
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Be careful boys...we've been told to make the newcomer feel welcomed.... Excuse me while I go :puke:
Are these the same people who told us we should be nice to the ronulans on CU?
:bird:
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I am not thinking it will go away. I thought we were done with that discussion. And what does that have to do with this topic anyway? I don't want this topic to get locked. I didn't start this topic, and it would be a shame if it got locked because of things being said to me that are completely off topic. If you'd like, PM me.
:blah: (she'll never answer the question or defend her hideous views...she'll use the ol' "you're picking on me" defenseless damsel routine.... :loser:
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Are these the same people who told us we should be nice to the ronulans on CU?
:bird:
don't know?
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(http://miskie.net/DUborg.jpg)
I think I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this recent Photoshop :-)
Add me to the list of takers
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OK guys....what's the over/under on him showing up here again?
doc
Then once AGAIN for the umpteenth time, he will become this:
(http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/157/6/AAAAAqbgzMoAAAAAAVdqCg.jpg)
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Troll in French is still troll.
brûlé par le Soleil
Ah yes but now comes to mind the question of what does it mean in Urdu?
That would be ٹرول .
Just in case you ever wanted to know.
This was a public service announcement.
Thank you - please move along...
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If ANY member is somewhat "protected", those are the ones that helped form Conservative Cave. That said, I don't want ANY member to feel that another is "protected".
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(http://miskie.net/DUborg.jpg)
I think I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this recent Photoshop :-)
May I use it at another forum if the Obamabots get to be too much, miskie? :-)
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May I use it at another forum if the Obamabots get to be too much, miskie? :-)
Indeed - never a problem to link to or steal my Photosops. :-)
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Are these the same people who told us we should be nice to the ronulans on CU?
:bird:
Umm no...but as a Moderator for this section I'm merely telling ou that if you want ti continue/pic a fight with Soliel...take it to the fight club where it belongs...unless you want me to hand a big ol pad lock on this entire thread.
You and Hawkgirl unbunch your panties and go take this up in the proper forum.
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Umm no...but as a Moderator for this section I'm merely telling ou that if you want ti continue/pic a fight with Soliel...take it to the fight club where it belongs...unless you want me to hand a big ol pad lock on this entire thread.
You and Hawkgirl unbunch your panties and go take this up in the proper forum.
What a lovely day....You tell me I have my panties in a bunch..NHSparkly tells me I have butt hurt...what's with all the ass fascination??? :lmao:
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What a lovely day....You tell me I have my panties in a bunch..NHSparkly tells me I have butt hurt...what's with all the ass fascination??? :lmao:
Perhaps if you weren't showing it so much... :uhsure:
:-)
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What a lovely day....You tell me I have my panties in a bunch..NHSparkly tells me I have butt hurt...what's with all the ass fascination??? :lmao:
Well, if I do recall the partial pic of you posted quite some time back... :naughty:
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I will challenge your BS DUmmy, every time I see it.
Wait a minute -- didn't you just in another thread tell Sparky insults are childish? WTF?
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Wait a minute -- didn't you just in another thread tell Sparky insults are childish? WTF?
Yeah, I did...what is childish about telling a DUmmie that they will be challenged?
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Yeah, I did...what is childish about telling a DUmmie that they will be challenged?
There seems to be a lot of vitriol towards a poster for merely posting.
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Umm no...but as a Moderator for this section I'm merely telling ou that if you want ti continue/pic a fight with Soliel...take it to the fight club where it belongs...unless you want me to hand a big ol pad lock on this entire thread.
You and Hawkgirl unbunch your panties and go take this up in the proper forum.
But Dutch LIKES the feel of bunched-up panties in his butt-crack!
:rotf:
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There seems to be a lot of vitriol towards a poster for merely posting.
:rotf: whatever, you're not pulling me into your little dramafests.
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:rotf: whatever, you're not pulling me into your little dramafests.
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Wow.
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whiney assed ego cock muncher that he is? 60/40.
Go with 100%
How you kids doing?
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Badmouthing your old post are we? Conservatives don't like turncoats.
Whitaker Chambers. Oh wait.
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Whitaker Chambers. Oh wait.
I once read a psychologlical profile of Whittaker Chambers in, of all places, a long, detailed biography of the most fascinating man of the twentieth century, Henry R. Luce.
It didn't excuse people turning their coat, but it explained it.
Whittaker Chambers was from a rather modest background, and while he was a member of the Communist Party, he was hobnobbing with the Ivy League elite, the academic elite, affluent white liberals, the catered class.
He did yeoman's work for them as a Communist, but sooner or later it dawned upon him that no matter how good he was, he was never going to be accepted by the Alger Hiss-Owen Lattimore Country Club set.
And so he went to the other side, more accepting of diversity and utterly dismissive of "background" as a gauge of character.
There's a lesson in this.
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I once read a psychologlical profile of Whittaker Chambers in, of all places, a long, detailed biography of the most fascinating man of the twentieth century, Henry R. Luce.
It didn't excuse people turning their coat, but it explained it.
Whittaker Chambers was from a rather modest background, and while he was a member of the Communist Party, he was hobnobbing with the Ivy League elite, the academic elite, affluent white liberals, the catered class.
He did yeoman's work for them as a Communist, but sooner or later it dawned upon him that no matter how good he was, he was never going to be accepted by the Alger Hiss-Owen Lattimore Country Club set.
And so he went to the other side, more accepting of diversity and utterly dismissive of "background" as a gauge of character.
There's a lesson in this.
Isn't that the story of Nixon within the GOP. Both party's have an elite establishment, a club. You are either a member or you are not.
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It's pretty disturbing to see some people in this thread are acting more like DU members than the actual real deal , albeit former DU members in here.
That childish shit reflects on us all and makes us look pretty ****ing stupid.
So grow a pair and act like an adult.
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Isn't that the story of Nixon within the GOP. Both party's have an elite establishment, a club. You are either a member or you are not.
Yeah, pretty much the story of the "insiders" versus the "outsiders."
You see this a lot on this side of the aisle, where there's plenty of conservatives disenchanted with the Republican party.
I made an analogy once, comparing it with the evolution of Russia during medieval times.
Circa the 1400s, Russia was faced with a stark choice: (a) to become an empire or (b) to be absorbed by Poland.
The same situation hold today, in regards to conservatives and the Republican party; will the Tea Party movement be absorbed by the Republican party, or will the Tea Party movement absorb the Republican party?
It's as good as watching a show on television.
Me, I don't care either way; it's just politics.
All I care about is that the Republican party with its subsidiary the Tea Party movement, or the Tea Party movement with its subsidiary the Republican party, ends up on top.
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Yeah, pretty much the story of the "insiders" versus the "outsiders."
You see this a lot on this side of the aisle, where there's plenty of conservatives disenchanted with the Republican party.
I made an analogy once, comparing it with the evolution of Russia during medieval times.
Circa the 1400s, Russia was faced with a stark choice: (a) to become an empire or (b) to be absorbed by Poland.
The same situation hold today, in regards to conservatives and the Republican party; will the Tea Party movement be absorbed by the Republican party, or will the Tea Party movement absorb the Republican party?
It's as good as watching a show on television.
Me, I don't care either way; it's just politics.
All I care about is that the Republican party with its subsidiary the Tea Party movement, or the Tea Party movement with its subsidiary the Republican party, ends up on top.
I'm more concerned with us paying off our debt and my best friends kids, and if I decide to have them of my own, having opportunities at a life worth living.
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I'm more concerned with us paying off our debt and my best friends kids, and if I decide to have them of my own, having opportunities at a life worth living.
So are we to understand that you are going to stop supporting liberal socialists?
ETA: I like your av, btw. Seems very fitting.
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So are we to understand that you are going to stop supporting liberal socialists?
ETA: I like your av, btw. Seems very fitting.
There are somethings I like the government doing, there are somethings I don't like it doing. Frankly between the two parties every election I have a choice between what I view as different insanities.
I aligned with the democrats mostly over outside hemisphere foreign policy and trade issues. I got pretty much the same deal. Economically they are both different degrees of stupid to me.
Frankly, I'm not that worried, I feel there is about to be a game changer very shortly and this debate over R and D is going to be very different.
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There are somethings I like the government doing, there are somethings I don't like it doing.
Me too. I like the federal government (assuming we are talking about the federal government) doing the things they were assigned to do in the US Constitution. Other than that... I don't like the feds very much. :fuelfire:
:-)
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Me too. I like the federal government (assuming we are talking about the federal government) doing the things they were assigned to do in the US Constitution. Other than that... I don't like the feds very much. :fuelfire:
:-)
There we will find a lot of agreement.
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Yeah, pretty much the story of the "insiders" versus the "outsiders."
You see this a lot on this side of the aisle, where there's plenty of conservatives disenchanted with the Republican party.
I made an analogy once, comparing it with the evolution of Russia during medieval times.
Circa the 1400s, Russia was faced with a stark choice: (a) to become an empire or (b) to be absorbed by Poland.
The same situation hold today, in regards to conservatives and the Republican party; will the Tea Party movement be absorbed by the Republican party, or will the Tea Party movement absorb the Republican party?
It's as good as watching a show on television.
Me, I don't care either way; it's just politics.
All I care about is that the Republican party with its subsidiary the Tea Party movement, or the Tea Party movement with its subsidiary the Republican party, ends up on top.
I think the Tea Party will absorb the Republican Party. Just sayin'.
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I expect the entrenched GOP interest to misbehave as much as any entrenched interest misbehaves.
I'm expecting a legit 3rd party challenger in 2012.
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Economically they are both different degrees of stupid to me.
How so?
Frankly, I'm not that worried, I feel there is about to be a game changer very shortly and this debate over R and D is going to be very different.
A gamechanger? What kind?
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How so?
A gamechanger? What kind?
I believe in Austrian Economics. I view both Republicans and Democrats as different forms of Keynsians. Tax cuts vs. spending. I view both as ridiculous Keynsian debt adventures.
I see a total collapse in the banking sector due to the debt issue. The banks have gotten a fairly good deal. They can over value assets and hid their true leverage ratios. I fully expect that game to end abruptly and take us into a very, very interesting place.
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I believe in Austrian Economics. I view both Republicans and Democrats as different forms of Keynsians. Tax cuts vs. spending. I view both as ridiculous Keynsian debt adventures.
I see a total collapse in the banking sector due to the debt issue. The banks have gotten a fairly good deal. They can over value assets and hid their true leverage ratios. I fully expect that game to end abruptly and take us into a very, very interesting place.
And of course, since Republicans will not abide by any tax increases, and Democrats will not abide by spending cuts, they compromise and continue both tax cuts and massive spending.
The result is a huge deficit spending over years created a huge debt that we also have to pay interest on.
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And of course, since Republicans will not abide by any tax increases, and Democrats will not abide by spending cuts, they compromise and continue both tax cuts and massive spending.
The result is a huge deficit spending over years created a huge debt that we also have to pay interest on.
Yep
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I believe in Austrian Economics. I view both Republicans and Democrats as different forms of Keynsians. Tax cuts vs. spending. I view both as ridiculous Keynsian debt adventures.
I see a total collapse in the banking sector due to the debt issue. The banks have gotten a fairly good deal. They can over value assets and hid their true leverage ratios. I fully expect that game to end abruptly and take us into a very, very interesting place.
Different forms of Keynsians? You equate putting money back into the hands of private citizens the same as taking more in taxes and throwing it into the wind?
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Different forms of Keynsians? You equate putting money back into the hands of private citizens the same as taking more in taxes and throwing it into the wind?
If you are using debt to finance operations. Yes
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If you are using debt to finance operations. Yes
Ah, got it
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Ah, got it
If you cut spending and cut taxes at the same time, it is basic budgeting. If you raise spending while you cut taxes you are engaging in Keynsian voodoo.
Ike built the highway system, he did it with a tax on gasoline.
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If you cut spending and cut taxes at the same time, it is basic budgeting. If you raise spending while you cut taxes you are engaging in Keynsian voodoo.
Ike built the highway system, he did it with a tax on gasoline.
Dood, I said I got it. :-)
FWIW, I agree with that point. Taxes can be cut and spending reduced although I think we would probably disagree on where to make the cuts.
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Dood, I said I got it. :-)
FWIW, I agree with that point. Taxes can be cut and spending reduced although I think we would probably disagree on where to make the cuts.
Yes we should probably have that fight rather than compromise and spend our children into oblivion.
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Been real busy over the weekend!
I see he's back!
Anybody want to bring me up to speed? I don't have time to read crap!
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Been real busy over the weekend!
I see he's back!
Anybody want to bring me up to speed? I don't have time to read crap!
LOL, he's actually been a pleasure to talk to, he's made some good points, than he's made points we've disagreed on, but it's been a nice debate, and I think he's been honest on questions we've asked about the Democrats.
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Been real busy over the weekend!
I see he's back!
Anybody want to bring me up to speed? I don't have time to read crap!
I've just read both threads .....both are very good discussions, and there is no reason - at least at this point - to be defensive and there is cause to "play well with others". :-)
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I've just read both threads .....both are very good discussions, and there is no reason - at least at this point - to be defensive and there is cause to "play well with others". :-)
At the end of the day, shit hits the fan, we are in the foxhole together.
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At the end of the day, shit hits the fan, we are in the foxhole together.
That's true.
All will have the choice to stand and fight together, or continue to argue and all will perish.
I get so tired of the blind worshipping that the Left exhibits for Obama and his Merry Band of Idiots. Not only are they blind, they are reckless with their words, attitudes and behavior, but are also convinced that Conservatives are out to destroy the country. All without any reflection upon their own actions.
I wish we could get rid of all the politicians and start with a clean slate, based upon a true desire to better the country....not to better themselves and fatten their bank accounts. Perhaps if the people took away the Congress critters lifetime benefits, those that wish to serve do it from a desire in their hearts and souls to serve the country, rather than to bask in the prestige and reap the benefits of being an elected Congress critter....
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That's true.
All will have the choice to stand and fight together, or continue to argue and all will perish.
I get so tired of the blind worshipping that the Left exhibits for Obama and his Merry Band of Idiots. Not only are they blind, they are reckless with their words, attitudes and behavior, but are also convinced that Conservatives are out to destroy the country. All without any reflection upon their own actions.
I wish we could get rid of all the politicians and start with a clean slate, based upon a true desire to better the country....not to better themselves and fatten their bank accounts. Perhaps if the people took away the Congress critters lifetime benefits, those that wish to serve do it from a desire in their hearts and souls to serve the country, rather than to bask in the prestige and reap the benefits of being an elected Congress critter....
I'll be happy to practice my profession, as I was trained honestly.
I'm an accountant who won't practice right now.
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What a lovely day....You tell me I have my panties in a bunch..NHSparkly tells me I have butt hurt...what's with all the ass fascination??? :lmao:
Show your boobiez and they'll leave your ass alone(unless is has a big ol scar on it)
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I'll be happy to practice my profession, as I was trained honestly.
I'm an accountant who won't practice right now.
So what do you do?
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So what do you do?
I work part-time at a few jobs now and volunteer to keep myself out of trouble.
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I expect the entrenched GOP interest to misbehave as much as any entrenched interest misbehaves.
I'm expecting a legit 3rd party challenger in 2012.
If you mean by "legit" one that will actually be a viable candidate in their own right versus drain votes off someone else and allow someone to win a "mandate" of 43 percent ala Clinton?
Hasn't really happened in 100 years (think Bull Moose Party.)
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If you mean by "legit" one that will actually be a viable candidate in their own right versus drain votes off someone else and allow someone to win a "mandate" of 43 percent ala Clinton?
Hasn't really happened in 100 years (think Bull Moose Party.)
I think you might get a Billionaire who is pissed off enough that he might try to save the country.
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I work part-time at a few jobs now and volunteer to keep myself out of trouble.
So why aren't you using your training?
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I think you might get a Billionaire who is pissed off enough that he might try to save the country.
Bloomberg? Or Gates? The former is likely but he will not "save" the country and Gates wouldn't touch this mess.
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Why the **** do we have a thread denoted to this illusive changeling sack of horse manure?
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Why the **** do we have a thread denoted to this illusive changeling sack of horse manure?
with all due respect why are you following him from topic to topic if he angers you so much?
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I think you might get a Billionaire who is pissed off enough that he might try to save the country.
We had one of those once. We got 8 years of Billy Jeff.
Thanks, but not again.
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with all due respect why are you following him from topic to topic if he angers you so much?
It's what I do. Ya know, on an open Internet discussion forum...guy's gotta have a job...burns eh?
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It's what I do. Ya know, on an open Internet discussion forum...guy's gotta have a job...burns eh?
And ya do it so well.... :tongue: