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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2013, 01:39:09 PM »
Now that smilinjack/shitstain has imploded, maybe we can go on to other things.

Like the thread, for example.

I did a quick scan, mods, and didn't see anything that chronicled what Boehner and his boys did last night. This is a pretty good analysis:

Final vote: 257-177, yea

Rest is at the link.

smilinjack/shitstain did not implode. You are corresponding with it right now.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2013, 01:50:37 PM »
Dori, you are rambling. We were talking about yearly net income and you somehow pretend that the money reserved for "next month's rent" has anything to do with yearly net income.

No, your right, net income has nothing to do with next months rent. Net income on a specific date is only a snapshot of a business' financial position at that moment in time.  

Net income still doesn't mean squat in how a business works.  
 
Obviously you still don't have a clue.  Let's pretend you have a business and as of 12/31/2012 (the closing of your year end) your books showed that you had made a profit of $400,000, and there is a balance of $200,000 in your checking account, $200,000 sitting in your accounts receivables and $200,000 in your accounts payable. You also have a weekly payroll that averages $50,000 a week, and your rent of $50,000 is due on 1/1/2013.

So tell me smart guy, how rich is the owner of that company? Where is that so called profit of $400,000 that he has to claim on his personal income tax and pay taxes on?  Is he personally $400,000 richer?  Or is that $400,000 just part of the cash flow of daily business that keeps people employed?

And yes, I have read lots of accounting and tax books and taken several college courses on the subject.  







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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2013, 01:52:34 PM »
smilinjack/shitstain did not implode. You are corresponding with it right now.

I'm not convinced of that, though I know that several people suspect as much.

Matters not - what matters is the content of the thread, not some jackoff shitstain.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2013, 02:15:04 PM »
And yes, I have read lots of accounting and tax books and taken several college courses on the subject.  

Doesn't matter, msnbc said it wasn't true so it's not true...  [/DUmmie mode]
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2013, 03:40:55 PM »
and once again, you do not say whether net income is calculated before or after payroll is paid to employees. The dodging continues.

That comment only told me that you could not have possibly read the very nice explanation at the website!


It would appear that it is less a case of "dodging" and more a case of lack of will to read the material presented to you and/or a gross and willful ignorance on your part.  Either way, Ausonius and the rest are right and you (as well as MSNBC) are wrong.

Many thanks to Wasp69 for taking the time to point out the salient portions of the articles!  

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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2013, 03:42:49 PM »
Many thanks to Wasp69 for taking the time to point out the salient portions of the articles!  

Any time, sir.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2013, 05:36:43 AM »
Any time, sir.

lol. Wasp feels good because the guy that was arguing with me thinks the other guy that was arguing with me (Wasp) posted a kick-ass website link. Shocker.

Wasp's snippet said net income was calculated after payroll, and this is somewhat a good thing for your argument?
In fact, I thank you, Wasp, for that wonderful link, as if vindicated the fact that payroll shouldn't even have brought up in this thread, as it is subtracted from the equation in order to find the net income. Now continue to tell each other how wonderful your snippets are.

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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2013, 07:15:51 AM »
Yeah, I noticed that as well. This guy appears to be at least a smidgeon intelligent, however, whereas the other clown - Jackmeoff or whatever he called himself - was noticeably stupid. And unkempt.

They appear to be the same person to me both in posting style and lack of intelligence.

Every post that squarely counters their stupid ASSumptions is countered with, "You are rambling." Their posting style has no noticeable differences and their timing of posting on the site also correlated.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2013, 08:48:38 AM »
lol. Wasp feels good because the guy that was arguing with me thinks the other guy that was arguing with me (Wasp) posted a kick-ass website link. Shocker.

Anyone who murders the English Language this bad has to be super smart, right?  Rambling, barely coherent, run-on sentences are surely a sign of superior intelligence, aren't they?

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Wasp's snippet said net income was calculated after payroll, and this is somewhat a good thing for your argument?
In fact, I thank you, Wasp, for that wonderful link, as if vindicated the fact that payroll shouldn't even have brought up in this thread, as it is subtracted from the equation in order to find the net income.

How about we do a little review instead?

Now look at the definition of "net income".
“Net income” is the phrase commonly used to refer to a company’s “profit.” It represents how much money the company has left over, if any, after it’s paid the costs of doing business — payroll, raw materials, taxes, interest on loans, etc." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...e-between-revenue-income/

Net income and profit are exactly the same thing.

...profits and net income were the same thing.

Both profit AND net income are revenue minus operation costs.

That was you, telling all of us that net income and profit are the exact same thing because you read it on msnbc.  It simply is not true, as demonstrated in the link you didn't bother to read:

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Net profit after taxes is the net income of the organization less all taxes. It is the sum of all revenues less all expenses, including cost of goods sold and all taxes. While it is almost the same as net income, this terminology frequently appears on the company’s financial statements in order to differentiate between profits before and after subtracting taxes.
http://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-net-income-net-profit-after-tax-20663.html

Rebolded, in case you might have missed it the first time.

Now continue to tell each other how wonderful your snippets are.

Bless your little, pea-pickin' heart....
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2013, 08:59:52 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-signs-fiscal-cliff-bill-autopen-055852354--abc-news-politics.html

The lazy,useless piece of shit scolds everyone else but can`t keep his worthless ass in Washington to even do his job.  :banghead:

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« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2013, 09:51:40 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-signs-fiscal-cliff-bill-autopen-055852354--abc-news-politics.html

The lazy,useless piece of shit scolds everyone else but can`t keep his worthless ass in Washington to even do his job.  :banghead:

Well, as I have written before, we will be better off in the long run, if he does NOTHING for the next four years and takes a permanent vacation there.

Every minute he spends in D.C. we get more taxation, more debt, and are brought faster and closer to collapse.  Let him  :loser2:  drift forever on the Pacific!  
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2013, 11:07:28 AM »
lol. Wasp feels good because the guy that was arguing with me thinks the other guy that was arguing with me (Wasp) posted a kick-ass website link. Shocker.

And again I ask--what exactly do you do for a living again?
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2013, 11:28:19 AM »
And again I ask--what exactly do you do for a living again?

Well, as you encouraged him to get the sand out of his vag, he clearly is a beach whore.
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« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2013, 05:55:51 PM »
I see BS hasn't been back in a while. Guess mommy finally got home and he could no longer Occupy the internet being Keyboard Badass as she wanted her computer back. But she did restock his Cheetoes supply while out though...

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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2013, 07:13:08 PM »
Well, as you encouraged him to get the sand out of his vag, he clearly is a beach whore.

Please don't insult beach whores. They are clearly more significant members of society than him.
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« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2013, 08:04:12 PM »
So Boehner - after squeaking through the vote to remain Squeaker of the House  - now says BIG BRObama cannot trick him any more, and there will be no more private talks about anything!   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

And MAObama says this is not over: he will be back for more tax increases - except on his cronies like Immelt and Buffet and others - in February and to eliminate that silly "debt ceiling" permanently.  Because people with high incomes - unlike MAObama's cronies who live like medieval aristocrats - are still not taxed enough, taxes need to be increased until America's tradition of "work hard and succeed and become wealthier" is replaced by "accumulating wealth is unfair, nobody should make too much money."

Does anybody believe the present Republicans will finally stand against the Dems   :tongue:   in February?  They will be slammed for daring to shut down the government and thereby throwing Grandpa and Grandma into the snow because the Social Security checks will not be mailed, and with a government shutdown the air traffic controllers will let planes collide, the bureaucrats will not be working to save America from terrorism, etc. etc. etc.

The goal is destruction of capitalism and the desire to succeed: the ancillary goal is to replace them with socialistic lassitude and egalitarian mediocrity.
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« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2013, 10:44:25 PM »
This was all a fiasco from the beginning. Rush said it clearly today:

1. They taxed Small Business Owners; not the 1%.
2. They orchestrated the whole thing to make it seem like a crisis when clearly they could have handled this thing in August, or last year even!
3. They didn't close loopholes and now Obama wants to go after that too!
4. Obama used the crisis to destroy and demean the Republicans even more.
5. The Republicans fell for Obama's plot to destroy and demean them and now they look like the bad guys
6. Raised Taxes and Spending Cuts would have happened even if we went off the cliff.

7. They guy is still campaigning for...an unsaid third term perhaps??? Time will tell. I am just so mad at this and very disappointed with my party for falling for Obama's tricks! I am also disappointed in the American people because they care more about which celebrity is hooking up with who and which celebrity is having a baby!

Finally: This Doesn't Solve a F***ing Thing!!!!!!! :mad:

We'll see if Boehner sticks with his plan. He won't talk with Obama? Is that even possible?
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« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2013, 07:02:12 AM »

7. They guy is still campaigning for...an unsaid third term perhaps??? Time will tell. I am just so mad at this and very disappointed with my party for falling for Obama's tricks! I am also disappointed in the American people...


Remember that the generations who knew sacrifice, the ones born before 1930, have almost died away.  The current generations are the ones who, in general, resented their elders, because it was difficult to equal their level of accomplishment (one of my favorite symbolic examples: the Empire State Building - during the Depression! - was erected in 13 months and is a masterpiece vs. the 12 + years it has taken to replace the World Trade Center with another blah glass pillar), or who bought into egalitarian socialistic philosophy (e.g. protesting a war against Communism became just as noble - if not moreso -  as actually winning a war against evil), or who have been told that they are all winners just by showing up and breathing!

Our current resident in the White House is a perfect example of resentment, egalitarianism, and entitlement, thereby symbolizing the 3 generations now dominating the political landscape.

Why on earth did we ever think Romney had a chance against such a trend in the generations?

And yes, that MAObama still seems to be campaigning has not been recognized by enough people: I understand he is still releasing "videos" of himself.  Narcissism is difficult to give up, I suppose.  
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2013, 08:08:21 AM »
This was all a fiasco from the beginning. Rush said it clearly today:

1. They taxed Small Business Owners; not the 1%.
2. They orchestrated the whole thing to make it seem like a crisis when clearly they could have handled this thing in August, or last year even!
3. They didn't close loopholes and now Obama wants to go after that too!
4. Obama used the crisis to destroy and demean the Republicans even more.
5. The Republicans fell for Obama's plot to destroy and demean them and now they look like the bad guys
6. Raised Taxes and Spending Cuts would have happened even if we went off the cliff.

7. They guy is still campaigning for...an unsaid third term perhaps??? Time will tell. I am just so mad at this and very disappointed with my party for falling for Obama's tricks! I am also disappointed in the American people because they care more about which celebrity is hooking up with who and which celebrity is having a baby!

Finally: This Doesn't Solve a F***ing Thing!!!!!!! :mad:

We'll see if Boehner sticks with his plan. He won't talk with Obama? Is that even possible?

How's that big 'ol "centrist" shit sandwich tasting, kid?
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« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2013, 09:14:41 AM »
Boehner said he wouldn't negotiate with Obama one-on-one.  I don't blame him, everythime Boehner thought he had a deal, Obummer would move the goal posts, change the rules and up the ante.

If truth be told, it's Obama who REFUSES to make deals with Republicans and stick to his word.  He's a world class liar. 


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« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2013, 09:29:19 AM »
Boehner said he wouldn't negotiate with Obama one-on-one.  I don't blame him, everythime Boehner thought he had a deal, Obummer would move the goal posts, change the rules and up the ante.

If truth be told, it's Obama who REFUSES to make deals with Republicans and stick to his word.  He's a world class liar. 




I don't know what, in the past 4 year, ever gave Boenher that idea that this wasn't the case.  Why did he think this time would be different?  He hould have told Obama to jump in a fricking lake!!

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« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2013, 09:35:20 AM »
If I had to work with Barack Obama, I'd want witnesses too.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2013, 09:39:53 AM »
I don't know what, in the past 4 year, ever gave Boenher that idea that this wasn't the case.  Why did he think this time would be different?  He hould have told Obama to jump in a fricking lake!!

Because the political fallout from engaging the guy (and losing) would be more painful than the tax hikes that EVERYBODY winds up paying.

Where Boehner made his mistake was agreeing to the Supercommittee that was destined to shit on the carpet to begin with, and the resulting feeble attempt to shove austerity down the rest of Congress' throat.

Boehner forgot that nobody else - certainly not Dingy Harry - was playing and the end result was creating a crisis and then creating the image that he "saved" us from that crisis.

Boehner should have been run out on a rail. Instead, the ****ing House reelected his ass.

That's how bad it is. The ******* Congress intends to shove more of this shit down our throats, and that includes the ****ing Republicans as well as the Pelousyites.

It's all about gaining and keeping POWER. **** everything and everybody else.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2013, 09:48:58 AM »
Boehner said he wouldn't negotiate with Obama one-on-one.  I don't blame him, everythime Boehner thought he had a deal, Obummer would move the goal posts, change the rules and up the ante.

Why not?  It worked for Hitler.
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Re: American Taxpayer Relief Act Passes Senate
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2013, 11:39:28 AM »

And yes, that MAObama still seems to be campaigning has not been recognized by enough people: I understand he is still releasing "videos" of himself.  Narcissism is difficult to give up, I suppose.  

Yup his campaign is still releasing videos. Remember when he said on the campaign trail that he would do a better job getting his message out to the people? Well, this is technically what he meant folks. More brainwashing and republican bashing!
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