My wetback wife is pissed because they taxed her under the table money- DIVORCE

[Tucker]

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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:34 AM
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I'm seriously considering divorcing my wife over Taxes
   
Another year another HUGE Tax Bill she hands me

My wife is an immigrant and she has always had trouble with Taxes. I remember her first pay check when she saw the deductions. Boy did she hit the roof - "How can they take your money" - Honey it's America EVERYONE pays taxes

Will it hasn't gotten any better. I earn a descent living, we own a home, have food to eat, Health Insurance - the whole Enchilada. Before I met my wife I had survived a 7 year audit, hired a CPA, and an EA, paid my bill and the lawyer fees and cleared up my Tax problems. Ever since then I've ALWAYS left some deductions on the table so to speak. I want a Tax Return not a Tax Bill at the end of the year.

Will now every year she hands me her TAX BILL

Right now sitting on the table I have a $2600 Tax bill which must be paid in 10 days. She thought she was working under the table, but when she pissed off her employer, got fired, and filed for unemployment, he 1099ed her and never sent her a copy. OK I understand what happened and can forgive that

Now here it is another year. At the beginning of the year I told her to change her deductions. "Sweety - you are NOT Tax Exempt - you need to pay Taxes" Well you guessed it, after doing our taxes last night she has handed me yet another $6000 Tax Bill.

Nobody gets a 1% Tax Rate - why in the **** would the employer and her try to play stupid.

I'm scared - jobs are getting harder to find - I'm currently unemployed so the money for the $2600 is coming right out of my savings. The $6000 Tax Bill comes out of the Deductions I purposely didn't claim last year. So instead of getting a new roof on the house (which I am surprised is not leaking now) it goes towards the Taxes she did not pay.

At what point do I say enough is enough - when I finally don't have the savings and we loose the house and I become Homeless

Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:37 AM
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2. stop filing jointly. problem solved. n/t

I don't think so. One: He'll end up paying anyway. Two: If they have ever filed jointly, and she refuses to pay, they'll come after him for the money (It happened to me). As a result, He'll end up paying anyway.

New campfire. May or may not grow. Just wanted to show the TRUE mindset of illegals in this country. Parasites.

[Celtic Rose]

The easy solution to this would be for him to look at her paystubs once and awhile to see how much is being taken in taxes.  If it seems low, he should place some extra money in a savings account just in case they owe at tax time.  $500 to saving per month and that $6,000 bill would be paid for.

[Tucker]

This is from a different thread, but had to include it in this one.

The OP is from FreakinDJ. Here is his post in another thread dealing with illegals.

New bill would make hiring illegals a state felony

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x384945

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 08:47 AM
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10. At least the law will change the debate over illegals aliens / undocumented workers
   
I for 1 certainly don't like the political correct terminology "Undocumented Worker". It undermines the fact they are here illegally - displacing American workers and REDUCING the living standards of all Americans.

If Government is not willing or able to ensure and increase the Living Standards of it's Citizens then it needs to be dismembered and cast out

What a ****ing hypocrite.

Clarify it for me, will you. It's OK for your wife to stay and work under the table, but every other illegal is taking an American job. Am I right so far!

[Tucker]

DUmmies are waking up. It must be getting closer to noon.

HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:40 AM
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6. Is California a joint-property state?
   
And would that make a difference to the IRS? Could the what's his is hers thing make him liable for her debt to the IRS?

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:46 AM
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17. Of course the house is joint propertry
   
She sends the bulk of her money home to help out her family

I pay the mortgage, all the utility bills, up until 6 months ago her car payment - basically every thing. Occasionally she will buy food

TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:39 AM
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4. Why are you only talking about finances once a year? And where is the money going that she   Updated at 8:49 PM
   
has been earning all along? This isn't a conversation you only have once a year.

tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:43 AM
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12. If she was working under the table, how did she file for unemployment?
   
After the fact are you saying he made her a contractor (1099) instead of a regular employee? If he didn't send her a copy you can file a complaint with the IRS.

If she's getting a 1099 is she even filling out a W4 for deductions?

Do you have separate bank accounts? Why not just set aside money each pay period for the tax bill, if she refuses to have deductions?

Good question.

seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:50 AM
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20. i dont know, convince boss to under table, get fired and file unemployment. boss has to
   
cover his ass. lol

sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:44 AM
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13. How,exactly did your wife think she was working under the table?
   
And why would anyone working under the table think they have a right to unemployment benefits? When she told you she was filing for unemployment from her under-the-table job, didn't that seem odd to you?

NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:51 AM
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21. Divorce is a major life changing experience not to be taken lightly
   
Especially if there are children involved. This probably isn't the best place to look for advice in these kinds of matters.

Marriage counselor might be the best way to go?

Good luck to both of you.

Don

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Feb-10-11 09:54 AM
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22. So is being Homeless

Keep the car. I hear they're great for sleeping in.

[Chris_]

NNN0LHI (1000+ posts)
Thu Feb-10-11 09:51 AM
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This probably isn't the best place to look for advice in these kinds of matters.

The truth shall set you free.

[Texacon]

Right now sitting on the table I have a $2600 Tax bill which must be paid in 10 days. She thought she was working under the table, but when she pissed off her employer, got fired, and filed for unemployment, he 1099ed her and never sent her a copy. OK I understand what happened and can forgive that

There is no way in hell he did not know about this.  It was all fun and games getting to keep their money until it got discovered.

Hey DUmmies, I know you don't believe this but it is YOUR money.  The only time you consider it YOUR money is when it is coming out of YOUR pocket.  When it is coming out of others pockets it is the GOVERNMENTS money.

What a bunch of losers.

KC

[BEG]

I'd trade you tax bills in a heart beat DUmmie.

By the way, if you consider the money she makes hers and the money you make yours, keep track of what you pay vs what she payed you aren't married, you are no more than roommates with benefits.

[Karin]

Under the table and then turning around and claiming unemployment?  This really should have the DUmmies up in arms, providing him no quarter.  They're always screaming about PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE!!!! I AM PROUD AND HAPPY TO PAY TAXES!!!!  All that under the table money means no $$ flowing into their precious and sacred Social Security, Unemployment, Medicare, & Medicaid. 

These guys happily gin the system, and sit around thinking up ways to do it some more. 

[Big Dog]

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I don't think so. One: He'll end up paying anyway. Two: If they have ever filed jointly, and she refuses to pay, they'll come after him for the money (It happened to me). As a result, He'll end up paying anyway.

New campfire. May or may not grow. Just wanted to show the TRUE mindset of illegals in this country. Parasites.

I rowed over and did some recon.

The wife is a Filipina. The Philippines have Federal income tax, so it's not a new concept for her.

I suspect the DUmmie's wife was used to making money in a "cash only" industry back home at Po City. I think she is lying to the DUmmie about sending money home to put her family through school, about losing the 1099 from her employer, and about her desire to "love him long time."

And somebody should tell the DUmmie that in the US we don't call them "employers", we call them "pimps".

[Doc]

I rowed over and did some recon.

The wife is a Filipina. The Philippines have Federal income tax, so it's not a new concept for her.

I suspect the DUmmie's wife was used to making money in a "cash only" industry back home at Po City. I think she is lying to the DUmmie about sending money home to put her family through school, about losing the 1099 from her employer, and about her desire to "love him long time."

And somebody should tell the DUmmie that in the US we don't call them "employers", we call them "pimps".

 

[Tucker]

I rowed over and did some recon.

The wife is a Filipina. The Philippines have Federal income tax, so it's not a new concept for her.

I suspect the DUmmie's wife was used to making money in a "cash only" industry back home at Po City. I think she is lying to the DUmmie about sending money home to put her family through school, about losing the 1099 from her employer, and about her desire to "love him long time."

And somebody should tell the DUmmie that in the US we don't call them "employers", we call them "pimps".

Aw gee. Now you went and spoiled it.

The point is to illustrate that the DUmmy elites have a sense of entitlement where what they have is theirs and that they don't mind spending other peoples money.

The lead DUmmy in this case knew full well what was going on. He didn't complain until his bump buddy got fired and the employer covered his ass.

[ConservativeMobster]

This guy claims to "make good money" yet he's currently "unemployed".  They both seem to be scamming the system. How in the hell do you have a $6000 tax bill? 

[thundley4]

Right now sitting on the table I have a $2600 Tax bill which must be paid in 10 days.

Unless this is from several years ago, wouldn't it be due by April 15th?

[Tucker]

Unless this is from several years ago, wouldn't it be due by April 15th?

SSSSSSSH!!!!

[AllosaursRus]

This guy claims to "make good money" yet he's currently "unemployed".  They both seem to be scamming the system. How in the hell do you have a $6000 tax bill? 

That's what I was goin' to ask? As far as I know, ya can't work under the table for NASA! My tax bill is way under 6 grand and between me and "Toots" last year made around 60 thou.

They would have to make over 100 grand. He says he's unemployed, if what he says is true about the house and all, she must be turnin' tricks 24/7 or workin' for ACORN or Fannie Mae!

I think this one is bouncin' off the walls!

[JohnnyReb]

When you're such a loser that you have to resort to "mail order brides" for a wetback wife....you're a loser extraordinaire.

[thundley4]

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts)           Thu Feb-10-11 09:43 AM
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11. We talk about finances all the time
   
I even filled out her revised W-4 for at the beginning of the year.

No I don't demand she hand over her pay stubs - I try to trust her and have "Faith in Her"

It's got to be pretty obvious when you have Tax Bills year after year that 1% is not the correct Tax Rate

It's his own fault that they didn't take enough taxes out.

[NHSparky]

This guy claims to "make good money" yet he's currently "unemployed".  They both seem to be scamming the system. How in the hell do you have a $6000 tax bill?  

As a contractor being paid by 1099, YOU are responsible for quarterly filings of SS/Medicare taxes, as well as annual federal taxes.  $6000 bill could easily be run up by making as little as $25K a year.

Oh, and then there's this from the OP:

I earn a descent living,

<snip>

I'm scared - jobs are getting harder to find - I'm currently unemployed

Yeah.  Sure ya do.

[Celtic Rose]

I earn a descent living,

So, his income is steadily going down? 

[NHSparky]

So, his income is steadily going down? 

Well, given that his current income is ZERO while he's unemployed, I'd say he's pretty well augered in.

BTW--how YOU doin? 

[GOBUCKS]

How can you make heads or tails out of this mess? DUmbasses constantly confuse "return" with "refund", and "deduction" with "exemption". Since they use those very different terms interchangeably, it isn't worth the trouble to interpret what their whines mean. Then if you do figure it out, it's all lies. They're just too stupid to live.

(Example: He helped her complete a W-4, but she's being paid as a private contractor on a 1099 without withholding. Not an expert on contractors, but why does she need a W-4? She's getting tax help from a DUmmy who doesn't know the difference between a deduction and an exemption.)

[Ballygrl]

None of this makes sense, too many inconsistencies

he makes a good living then he says he's unemployed
he pays all the bills and she sends money home
she works under the table and collects unemployment
he condones this behavior yet in another thread condemns illegals for stealing American jobs
they're basically stealing money from other Americans who can use the benefits

What's wrong with this picture?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Nobody gets a 1% Tax Rate - why in the **** would the employer and her try to play stupid.

No doubt because she claimed 14 or 15 dependents on her W4, you rotten tax-cheating son of a bitch, who doesn't even understand the difference between 'Return' and 'Refund.'  You deserve every bit of tax misery you get and 10 time more, you damned thief.

[Karin]

After being informed that the Phillipines has income tax, he says:

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-10-11 10:36 AM
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39. Average Citizen living on $4 per day - if they tried to collect income taxes
 Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 10:37 AM by FreakinDJ
they have an Armed Insurrection in the streets of Manila within minutes

Even as an Architect she never paid Income Taxes in the Philippines

  Yeah, a George Costanza architect. 

sufrommich  (1000+ posts)        Thu Feb-10-11 11:23 AM
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77. So between the 2 of you, you earned $150,000. Pay your
 ****ing taxes and stop bitching about the bill on DU.

FreakinDJ (1000+ posts)      Thu Feb-10-11 10:49 AM
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48. ... She was a "caregiver" in a home for "Developmentally Disabled Adults". The owner had given her a promotion but when challenged by 1 of her subordinate employees he buckles and fires her.

The indecent involved 1 of the residents being abused - so she reported it

  The indecent?   

This thread is comedy gold!

[Ballygrl]

sufrommich  (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-10-11 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. So between the 2 of you, you earned $150,000. Pay your
****ing taxes and stop bitching about the bill on DU.