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The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« on: July 30, 2014, 03:31:37 PM »
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The Republican Occupation of Detroit
It took him two tries, thwarting his state’s voters’ will, but Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder got his wish—a major city that is dead politically.
Sally Kohn - DailyBeast
7/30/14

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Detroit is no longer a city. Sure, it looks like a city. But that’s a façade. The oldest city in the Midwest—home of the first traffic light in America and the first urban freeway, the birthplace of Motown and the automobile and the ice cream soda—is now a ghost. Detroit, the place, is recovering—even thriving in some ways. But Detroit, the political entity, is dead.

In 2011, Republican Governor Rick Snyder signed into law Public Act 4, which gave the state the power to place cash-strapped cities and school districts under the control of state-appointed emergency managers. In 2012, Michigan voters overturned that law. But in 2013, Snyder signed a barely revised version of the emergency manager law—and then used it to take over Detroit.

So in the fall of 2013, Detroit voters went to the polls to elect a new mayor and City Council, but it didn’t matter. The powers of the mayor and City Council have effectively been suspended. Detroit’s emergency manager, Kevyn Orr, appointed by Snyder, has all the power and then some. A Democratic city that elected Democratic leaders is now controlled by the appointee of a Republican governor.

Or, to put it differently, Detroit—a majority African-American city—is now controlled by a governor elected by a majority of white voters in the state. It really doesn’t matter that Kevyn Orr, the state-appointed emergency manager, is black, nor that Mike Duggan, Detroit’s mayor, is white. What matters is that half of the state’s black population lives in Detroit. So through the state takeover, “half of black Michiganders have essentially lost the right to vote,” says Ife Kilimanjaro, co-director of the East Michigan Environmental Action Council.

Within this context, the water shut-offs in Detroit are more than just a human rights crisis but an existential one as well, with the state now literally shutting off the means of survival for hundreds of thousands of people in Detroit. And whether the temporary moratorium on shut-offs continues or not, the reality is that the crackdown on water bills is part of a master plan to shore up the finances of Detroit’s water and sewage department for privatization.

Why would any city want to privatize its water system? A report by...

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Pretty interesting how the author focuses on race rather than the fact the Dimmocrats messed up this city big time and now the adults are having to come in and make tough choices.  It will be fascinating to see this city turned around (if people will leave those trying to fix it alone long enough) then see who gets the credit.

This is our nation being played out in a very small scale.  Look at Detroit, that could be the entire country if we continue on the path we're on.

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 03:46:37 PM »
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It really doesn’t matter that Kevyn Orr, the state-appointed emergency manager, is black, nor that Mike Duggan, Detroit’s mayor, is white.

WTF? The white governor appoints a black emergency manager, and the denizens of Detroit elect a white mayor, (after years of black democrats failing the city), and that scrunt wants to play the race card? Unfrellingbelievable.

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 03:58:27 PM »
The friend I played golf with today is from Detroit and I mentioned to him how the city had really turned into a rat-hole. He said "Turned?!? It's always been a rat-hole. It's just now everyone else is seeing what those of us who lived there knew already."

I've know this guy for over 25 years, so I have no reason to doubt him.

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 04:00:21 PM »
So what we're really reading here is that Detroit wants to steal from the rest of MI to cover the promises it had no business making in the first place against the will of the people who don't live in Detroit but would have to foot the bill but since she can't say it like that we'll just fall back on the threadbare excuse that it must be race.
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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 04:06:45 PM »
$90 million in over due water bills in teh city of Detroit...

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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 04:08:54 PM »
Another story from an alternative reality. :mental:

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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 04:44:14 PM »
If Sally Kohn's liberal stupidity and obtuseness could be expressed as a release of light and heat, nothing within a 50 mile radius would be left alive or standing.

She's weapons grade stupid.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 05:32:36 PM »
Anyone who has had discussions with a liberal knows one thing: Nothing is ever a liberal's fault. They will always find a way to twist it back upon someone else.

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 06:54:36 PM »
Detroit was ran into the ground by democrats. For years the democrats have dug it deeper and deeper into a hole. Now a republican is attempting something to rectify the situation and dems are pissed because the republican won't just let them keep on digging deeper.

I'm beginning to think that the dems and their DUmmie followers actually believe if they dig deep enough instead of actually getting deeper they will come out on the other side and the other side will be a Skittle-shitting unicorn utopia.
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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2014, 04:17:16 AM »
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Or, to put it differently, Detroit—a majority African-American city—is now controlled by a governor elected by a majority of white voters in the state. It really doesn’t matter that Kevyn Orr, the state-appointed emergency manager, is black, nor that Mike Duggan, Detroit’s mayor, is white.


Right, because the rest of Michigan votes for Detroit's mayor.   :thatsright:

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What matters is that half of the state’s black population lives in Detroit. So through the state takeover, “half of black Michiganders have essentially lost the right to vote,”

You're gonna have to explain that, idiot.

 
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says Ife Kilimanjaro, co-director of the East Michigan Environmental Action Council.    Huh?!?!     

Oh..... I see.
              

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2014, 05:58:41 AM »
Having been born in Detroit and encountering its slow and relentless slide into the shithole that it officially became during the riots in 1967 (yeah, I remember those happening though I grew up somewhat removed from that out in a blue-collar 'burb that didn't encounter the firebombings, the looting, the general mayhem) and never recovered from.

Jerry Cavanaugh, another white mayor of Detroit, started the graft and corruption on a grand scale in the early 1960s as white flight to the 'burbs was already in full bloom, but even his efforts paled in comparison to Coleman Young, whose outward racism was matched only by his profane mouth. Young raped the city during a very long tenure as mayor through the 1970s and into the 1980s before he finally orgasmed and let the city out of his clutches.

Charlie LeDuff has a great book out that delves into the detail about a city that is functionally dead. Police and fire departments are a shadow of their former selves and while there are some still that are dedicated, don't expect to see anybody show up after a 911 call for at least an hour. That's why many of the citizens are arming themselves and are taking rightful action when the squatters, crack hos, drug dealers, and other vermin show up.

I just don't believe that the city will ever come back--certainly not as long as the Dems are running things. As to what the scrunt is saying, that's just more DUmp material that has flies buzzing around it and is tapered slightly at the end.
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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2014, 07:52:08 AM »
Having been born in Detroit and encountering its slow and relentless slide into the shithole that it officially became during the riots in 1967 (yeah, I remember those happening though I grew up somewhat removed from that out in a blue-collar 'burb that didn't encounter the firebombings, the looting, the general mayhem) and never recovered from.

Jerry Cavanaugh, another white mayor of Detroit, started the graft and corruption on a grand scale in the early 1960s as white flight to the 'burbs was already in full bloom, but even his efforts paled in comparison to Coleman Young, whose outward racism was matched only by his profane mouth. Young raped the city during a very long tenure as mayor through the 1970s and into the 1980s before he finally orgasmed and let the city out of his clutches.

Charlie LeDuff has a great book out that delves into the detail about a city that is functionally dead. Police and fire departments are a shadow of their former selves and while there are some still that are dedicated, don't expect to see anybody show up after a 911 call for at least an hour. That's why many of the citizens are arming themselves and are taking rightful action when the squatters, crack hos, drug dealers, and other vermin show up.

I just don't believe that the city will ever come back--certainly not as long as the Dems are running things. As to what the scrunt is saying, that's just more DUmp material that has flies buzzing around it and is tapered slightly at the end.

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2014, 08:02:33 AM »
It's practically FR over there!   :rotf:

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2. Detroit was being managed by idiots and headed for bankruptcy.

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3. DC was put under similar control in the 1990s due to mismanagement.

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The District of Columbia Financial Control Board took over the city from 1995-Sept 2001.

The privatization of the water authority is clearly wrong, but putting the city under financial control is probably the right move.

Edited: 1990s not the 1900s.
 
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4. As a practical matter, I don't see what difference it makes.

The PSC would give the private company around a 10% return on equity. The public water is presumably nonprofit, but likely less efficient.. It's probably a wash or close to it. Most electric companies are privately owned and electricity is a vital service as well.

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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2014, 08:15:57 AM »
" the water shut-offs in Detroit are more than just a human rights crisis but an existential one as well"

Yeah, it's a downright Kerouac situation and it's time to hit the road, Jack.   Try working for a living, nimrods.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2014, 09:06:00 AM »
Ife Kilimanjaro????  Seriously???

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2014, 10:04:55 AM »
"One rotten apple ruins the whole barrel"....in this case, one good apple trying to save a barrel of rotten apples...it'll never work.
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Re: The Republican Occupation of Detroit - DailyBeast
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2014, 11:04:13 PM »
Born and raised there.  Lived there from the late (really late  :whistling: ) 50s until the mid-70s. 

I agree with Eupher.  City started going downhill with Cavanaugh.  Everyone was promised something, and, that they could have it with little to no effort. 

None of us are surprised that this was unsustainable.  But, there are some sections, some businesses that are doing okay and even doing well.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2014, 11:22:38 PM »
Anyone who has had discussions with a liberal knows one thing: Nothing is ever a liberal's fault. They will always find a way to twist it back upon someone else.

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« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2014, 08:00:03 AM »
Born and raised there.  Lived there from the late (really late  :whistling: ) 50s until the mid-70s. 

I agree with Eupher.  City started going downhill with Cavanaugh.  Everyone was promised something, and, that they could have it with little to no effort. 

None of us are surprised that this was unsustainable. But, there are some sections, some businesses that are doing okay and even doing well.

Morgues, repo companies, foreclosure specialists, demolition companies ...

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2014, 12:37:59 AM »
Morgues, repo companies, foreclosure specialists, demolition companies ...

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