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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #275 on: November 08, 2009, 01:23:10 PM »
Quote from: debk on November 08, 2009, 12:41:57 PM

Fox is reporting that Lieberman is calling for an investigation into this.

I just saw that. On defense and the war on terror (not man made disaster) he is really good. If he moved to the right on the other issues he would make a good republican.  :-)
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #276 on: November 08, 2009, 01:24:27 PM »
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #277 on: November 08, 2009, 01:29:36 PM »
Quote from: TxRadioguy on November 08, 2009, 09:31:52 AM
Protesting higher taxes...socialized medicine...showing up at town hall meetings and making elected officials answer the tough questions...now THAT is terrorism in the minds of those on the left.  Hell military veterans are the real terrorists to the left.


Shooting up 14 innocent people while yelling allah akbar...why that's not terrorism to the left...that's just America's fault for not being more "understanding" of his situation.

I have pointed this out many times. Many terrorists, dictators, assassins, and mass murderers were on the left.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #278 on: November 08, 2009, 01:34:18 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 08, 2009, 01:23:10 PM
I just saw that. On defense and the war on terror (not man made disaster) he is really good. If he moved to the right on the other issues he would make a good republican.  :-)


Oh boy, the DUmp will be dusting off the ol' standby comments.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort
« Reply #279 on: November 08, 2009, 04:53:54 PM »
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #280 on: November 09, 2009, 10:16:53 AM »
ABC is reporting that he is awake and talking.....
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #281 on: November 09, 2009, 12:44:48 PM »
Start the Courts Martial now!  He can watch closed circut.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #282 on: November 09, 2009, 03:52:07 PM »
Interesting article from Israel -

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http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/Sharkansky/entry/allahu_akbar_praise_the_lord
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Jewish and Christian leaders have, for the most part, abandoned ancient doctrines that call for violence against others. Islam has earned our suspicion due to 9-11, suicide bombers, and what happens in Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
 
Muslim countries and Israel have an easier task in dealing with religious extremists than the United States. Egypt, Jordan, Tunis and Syria can wrap themselves in the symbols of Islam while sending the police and army to do things unacceptable elsewhere against those who threaten the state's control of what happens within its boundaries.
 
Israeli rabbis condemn their colleagues who urge soldiers not to obey orders about clearing settlements. Security services infiltrate Muslim and Jewish extremists. The Knesset banned Rabbi Meir Kahane from politics. Politicians and the media come down heavily against those who endorse the actions of Goldstein, Amir, or Teitel. The police mass against Muslim and Jewish demonstrators at holy sites, or at parking garages open on the Sabbath.
 
The United States suffers from its pride in individual freedom, multi-culturalism, openness to refugees (especially from countries affected by American military activities), religious freedom, opposition to ethnic profiling, privacy, and easy access to firearms. We can expect a surge of harassment directed at people who look Middle Eastern, as well as official expressions emphasizing that a misguided fringe should not bring retribution against the great majority of Muslims who are good neighbors. Tensions may increase along with immigration from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
 
Members of the Muslim community in and around Fort Hood have expressed their concern:

'When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,' said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. 'But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.'

'Ultimately it was Brother Nidal's doing, but the command should be held accountable,' Mr. Benjamin said. 'G.I.'s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it.'"

Ranking officials expressed confusion and caution. The Army Chief of Staff said, "This is a tough one ... It's a kick in the gut." President Obama cautioned against "jumping to conclusions" while investigations continue.
How should individuals protect themselves from the madness of believers? There may be nothing more certain than staying away from sensitive places at sensitive times, and hoping for good luck.
 
If anyone out there has a better idea, my mailbox is open.

Not that I completely agree with his assessment but some of it is close enough to hit where it hurts.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #283 on: November 10, 2009, 05:22:49 PM »
We probably paid close to if not more than six figures to put this killer through school so he can earn his MD license for Psychiatry...how does he repay this country?...by shooting 30 of his fellow soldiers.  He needs to be not only executed, but named for the terrorist he is.  None of this *****footing around it, President OBAMA..Call him out, call him a terrorist, and then stick a needle in his arm.

This CiC angers me like no other.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #284 on: November 10, 2009, 06:36:29 PM »
I heard earlier today he will be tried by Military Court and the jury will be military.


He's gonna fry....or will they hang him?
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #285 on: November 10, 2009, 06:39:32 PM »
Quote from: debk on November 10, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
I heard earlier today he will be tried by Military Court and the jury will be military.


He's gonna fry....or will they hang him?

Didn't the last person the Army executed get lethal injection?

Far too polite and clean for this piece of garbage.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #286 on: November 10, 2009, 06:52:02 PM »
There was an army rep on Fox news a few days ago that said military court can take just as long as civilian court cases, between appeals and lawyers trying the insanity defense.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #287 on: November 11, 2009, 11:04:24 AM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 10, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
There was an army rep on Fox news a few days ago that said military court can take just as long as civilian court cases, between appeals and lawyers trying the insanity defense.


With all the stuff the investigators are finding regarding him contacting Al-Queda...it's going to be tough to try to use insanity.

We could look at it that the terrorists - commiting atrocities in the name of religion -  are all insane...but that would be opinion rather than fact.

The terrorists are perfectly cognizant of what they are doing .....all in the name of Allah.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #288 on: November 11, 2009, 11:30:11 AM »
Too bad that they can't call me back to active duty so I could be on that trial.....
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #289 on: November 11, 2009, 11:33:10 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 11, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Too bad that they can't call me back to active duty so I could be on that trial.....

Even if it was for only the trial I would love to be back in.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #290 on: November 12, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »
Quote from: debk on November 10, 2009, 06:36:29 PM
I heard earlier today he will be tried by Military Court and the jury will be military.


He's gonna fry....or will they hang him?

Lethal injection is the way the military does it these days.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #291 on: November 12, 2009, 05:23:54 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on November 12, 2009, 05:21:27 PM
Lethal injection is the way the military does it these days.

That is assuming that :
1. They find him guilty.
2. They impose the death penalty.


Does it irritate anyone else that the media is still referring to him as "the alleged" shooter?  Seriously, is there any doubt that he is the one that done it?
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #292 on: November 12, 2009, 05:24:36 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 11, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Too bad that they can't call me back to active duty so I could be on that trial.....

You were a field grade officer?
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #293 on: November 12, 2009, 05:25:42 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 12, 2009, 05:23:54 PM
That is assuming that :
1. They find him guilty.
2. They impose the death penalty.


Does it irritate anyone else that the media is still referring to him as "the alleged" shooter?  Seriously, is there any doubt that he is the one that done it?

Correct on the assumptions.

Yes, it irritates the hell out of me.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #294 on: November 12, 2009, 07:32:02 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on November 12, 2009, 05:23:54 PM
That is assuming that :
1. They find him guilty.
2. They impose the death penalty.


Does it irritate anyone else that the media is still referring to him as "the alleged" shooter?  Seriously, is there any doubt that he is the one that done it?


Until one is found guilty either by admission to a judge or by a jury of one's peers....they must be referred to as "alledged"....otherwise it's considered slanderous or libelous....and the person making the comments either in writing or verbalizing....can be sued. Something a newsreporter/journalist/newpaper/tv network/etc isn't going to risk.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #295 on: November 12, 2009, 10:14:13 PM »
Quote from: debk on November 12, 2009, 07:32:02 PM

Until one is found guilty either by admission to a judge or by a jury of one's peers....they must be referred to as "alledged"....otherwise it's considered slanderous or libelous....and the person making the comments either in writing or verbalizing....can be sued. Something a newsreporter/journalist/newpaper/tv network/etc isn't going to risk.

It just seems wrong that when the person is caught red handed doing the deed, they still are called "the alleged" , or the "suspect".
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #296 on: November 12, 2009, 10:29:19 PM »
Quote from: Thor on November 11, 2009, 11:30:11 AM
Too bad that they can't call me back to active duty so I could be on that trial.....

I don't think you could even if you were active duty. He's a field grade officer. ...unfortunately.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #297 on: November 13, 2009, 07:45:29 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on November 12, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
I don't think you could even if you were active duty. He's a field grade officer. ...unfortunately.

Yeah, I think the UCMJ stipulates a jury "of peers" or slightly senior -- never junior.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #298 on: November 13, 2009, 08:38:05 AM »
Teuth is an absolute defence against lible/slander. Back some decades,some idiot judge decided that just saying Hasan killed presumed guilt andprejudiced any possible jury.  So now tthe jerks say "alleged" and "Accused" so frequently you want to smack them upside the head.
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Re: At Least 7 Reportedly Dead, 12 Others Hurt in Shooting at Army Base in Fort Hood
« Reply #299 on: November 13, 2009, 08:42:03 AM »
How long do you think they are going to pass judgement on him less than 1.2 seconds for them to say guilty
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