What do the Clintons have on Obama?

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Beacool  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-10-08 01:09 PM
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What do the Clintons have on Obama?
 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7969926


What the hell is the matter with Paglia??? She's as bad as MoDo!!!!

Hillary = Bad
Palin = Good

Dec. 10, 2008

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As for Obama's appointment of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, what sense does that make except within parochial Democratic politics? Awarding such a prize plum to Hillary may be a sop to her aggrieved fan base, but what exactly are her credentials for that position? Aside from being a mediocre senator (who, contrary to press reports, did very little for upstate New York), Hillary has a poor track record as both a negotiator and a manager. And of course both Clintons constantly view the world through the milky lens of their own self-interest. Well, it's time for Hillary to put up or shut up. If she gets as little traction in world affairs as Condoleezza Rice has, Hillary will be flushed down the rabbit hole with her feckless husband and effectively neutralized as a future presidential contender. If that's Obama's clever plan, is it worth the gamble? The secretary of state should be a more reserved, unflappable character -- not a drama queen who, even in her acceptance speech, morphed into three different personalities in the space of five minutes.

Given Obama's elaborate deference to the Clintons, beginning with his over-accommodation of them at the Democratic convention in August, a nagging question has floated around the Web: What do the Clintons have on him? No one doubts that the Clinton opposition research team was turning over every rock in its mission to propel Hillary into the White House. There's an information vacuum here that conspiracy theorists have been rushing to fill.

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Meanwhile, Sarah Palin's rehabilitation has been well launched. Step by step over the past five weeks since the election, headlines about Palin in the mainstream media and some Web news sites have become more neutral and even laudatory, signifying that a shift toward reality is already at hand. My confidence about Palin's political future continues, as does my disgust at the provincial snobbery and amoral trashing of her reputation by the media and liberal elite, along with some conservative insiders.

Once the Republican ticket was defeated, the time had passed for ad feminam attacks on Palin. Hence my surprise and dismay at Dick Cavett's Nov. 14 blog in the New York Times, "The Wild Wordsmith of Wasilla," which made a big splash and topped the paper's most-read list for nearly a week. I have enormous respect for Cavett: His TV interviews with major celebrities, which are now available on DVD, set a high-water mark for sheer intelligence in that medium that will surely never be surpassed.

However, Cavett's piece on Sarah Palin was insufferably supercilious. With dripping disdain, he sniffed at her "frayed syntax, bungled grammar and run-on sentences." He called her "the serial syntax-killer from Wasilla High," "one who seems to have no first language." I will pass over Cavett's s******ing dismissal of "soccer moms" as lightweights who should stay far, far away from government.

I was so outraged when I read Cavett's column that I felt like taking to the air like a Valkyrie and dropping on him at his ocean retreat in Montauk in the chichi Hamptons. How can it be that so many highly educated Americans have so little historical and cultural consciousness that they identify their own native patois as an eternal mark of intelligence, talent and political aptitude?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/12/10/hillary_...

 
 

Beacool  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-10-08 01:24 PM
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8. I don't get these older feminists.
 They still can't seem to forgive that Hillary didn't dump Bill. To me part of being a feminist is to allow women to have options. If someone wants to stay home that's fine, raising children is one of the most important things an individual (male or female) can do in this world. If some woman wants to forgive a cheating husband, that's fine too since it's their choice. I may not like it, but it's not my life. I would only intervene if someone is harming themselves or are putting their lives in danger by staying with an abusive man.

The loathing that some of these feminists feel for Hillary seem to stem from the fact that she doesn't conform to their ideal of what a feminist should be like. They seem to forget that Hillary is a woman of flesh and blood and not some icon in the church of feminism. She's entitled to make the choices that are best for her and also to make mistakes, just like the rest of us.

She's stuck with the idea that a woman couldn't do it on her own, and had to stay with Bill...

thecatburgler  (1000+ posts)      Wed Dec-10-08 01:18 PM
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7. Paglia has always sucked.
 Her half-baked faux-feminist pseudo-intellectual pedantic rape apologism never fooled me for a second. I remember when she first came on the scene in the early 90s that a lot of my guy friends loved her. And why not? She told them everything they wanted to hear. 
 

Closet Freeper.

[JohnnyReb]

"What do the Clintons have on him?"....Lets see, probably a Kenyen birth certificate, an FBI fill from here to yonder and...uh....uh.... oh yeah, a short dick measurement

[franksolich]

"What do the Clintons have on him?"....Lets see, probably a Kenyen birth certificate, an FBI fill from here to yonder and...uh....uh.... oh yeah, a short dick measurement

Damn, you're good, sir.

Simply admirable.

[USA4ME]

I don't think they have anything on him they can make stick, at least not for now.  Probably what frustrated them about him during the primaries is that he could do the slick thing like Bill did.  However, Honor Among Thieves can be short-lived, so Il Duce better watch out.

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