DUmmies discuss Gingrich / Gregory on MTP

[zeitgeist]

This is a double DUty DU thread.  Cali starts out with today's MTP.  Newt basically points out a turd in the DNC punch bowl but Cali seems to miss this point.  The second part shows how DU worships pseudo News Program (which I have never seen, I don't have HBO).

Feel the love for David Gregory boo hoo sucks to be you.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10021254821

 Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:58 PM

 Cali_Democrat (12,305 posts)

David Gregory's "Meet The Press" was just awesome today. The panel was terrific and well balanced


 - Newt Gingrich
- Tom Brokaw
- Thomas Freidman
- Carly Fiorina
- Doris Kearns Goodwin (historian)
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:08 PM

 PearliePoo2 (2,400 posts)

1. Mr. "Dances with Rove"...

should get the ****ing "hook".
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:10 PM

 grantcart (35,907 posts)

2. You are right. More fall out from News Room? HBO may revolutionize news.

Response to grantcart (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:33 PM

 Honeycombe8 (12,227 posts)

11. How would HBO revolutionize news. Is it starting a free HBO news station or something? nt

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:44 PM

 grantcart (35,907 posts)

14. Have you been watching News Room
 
It may be a coincidence but after News Room started taking a laser scaple to broadcast news;
 
1) Chris Matthews became bolder, much like the leading charachter

2) Juan Williams called out the Romney campaign for its use of the race card on FOX
 
3) Meet the Press was transformed into a thoughtful fact driven discussion

The other thing that HBO did was produce and run Game Changer that showed specifically how MSNBC was having a greater impact on the McCain campaign than all of the rest of the stations combined.
 
At one point the adviser yells out "How do we get McCain to stop watching MSNBC?"
 
So to answer your question they revolutionize it by holding a mirror up to it.
 

Response to grantcart (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:16 PM

 Honeycombe8 (12,227 posts)

16. Never heard of it. If it's on HBO, most of the country doesn't get HBO. Incl. me.

I quit paying for premium channels years ago.
 

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:23 PM

 Iris (13,138 posts)

18. That doesn't negate the possiblity that it's having an impact.

Response to Iris (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:38 PM

 Honeycombe8 (12,227 posts)

19. Oh, no. That's not what I meant. I'm sure the media watches it.

But people who buy or get things sometimes forget that others do not. Most people don't buy HBO, but my friends who do are always asking if I saw this or that...they forget that HBO is not a normal station for people to get. It's a special thing.
 
I used to pay for HBO years ago. I loved it. But my cable/satellite just got too expensive. I ended up dropping all premiums. I miss HBO. But I don't wan't to pay...I think it's $156/year, plus tax. That's a lot of movies I can go to (and do).
 

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:47 PM

 grantcart (35,907 posts)

20. It has nothing to do with the rest of the country

It is obviously having on the impact that it is portraying, cable news.

If you are interested in its impact you may want to look at some of these threads
 
Google DU News Room and it has 25 pages of threads, it is a major event.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=News+Room+DU&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search%21&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en
 

Response to grantcart (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:56 PM

 FarPoint (1,508 posts)

27. I honestly believe News Room has made a significant impact.

Cable News is huge.....I rarely watch free news...or what ever it is called....

I think News Room is setting the news media bar higher than it has been in 15 years. After watching the program, the viewing public gains an expectation of accurate new reporting and getting the facts processed.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:15 PM

 RedStateLiberal (1,257 posts)

3. Gregory needs to go.

He's the worst host they could have on MTP. Today he just sat there and let Newt repeat the infanticide lie about Obama.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/09/02/nbcs-david-gregory-allows-gingrich-to-lie-about/189717
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:17 PM

 DURHAM D (15,457 posts)

4. Is this a joke? Was that really the panel?

Average age 65 year 2 months.

Average IQ - dull normal range

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:19 PM

 Greybnk48 (4,734 posts)

5. Drivel Gregory needs to go. Please! n/t

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:20 PM

 stopbush (10,609 posts)

6. You're being sarcastic, right?

- Newt Gingrich - RW idiot and liar extraordinaire

- Tom Brokaw - king of the false equivalency. "Both shidez do it."

- Thomas Freidman - name something that's ridiculous. I'll write a book saying it's not ridiculous, and people will marvel at my insight.
 
- Carly Fiorina - RW hack. I thought she was touring with Spinal Tap.

- Doris Kearns Goodwin (historian) - meek go-along-to-get-along so the plagerism thingee doesn't come up again
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:26 PM

 Brother Buzz (6,645 posts)

7. And of course, the empty chair, David Gregory

Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:09 PM

 renate (6,543 posts)

22. good one!

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:28 PM

 Ichingcarpenter (26,626 posts)

8. I agree...Tom Brokaw has a nice deep authoritarian voice

Almost like Brit Hume.
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:29 PM

 aint_no_life_nowhere (16,241 posts)

9. Repubes are still saying Obama had complete control of Congress during his first two years

according to Carly Fiorina. Gregory just sat there looking happily stupid.
 

Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:36 PM

 Honeycombe8 (12,227 posts)

12. I noticed that. NO ONE ever responds to that idiotic statement.

Which is why they keep SAYING it! It's infuriating.
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:33 PM

 laundry_queen (3,028 posts)

10. I changed the channel

I had it on MSNBC for 'background noise' and then suddenly I kept hearing all kind of GOP talking points and lots of crap and I was like WTF? and I changed the channel. It was very unbalanced. It's like MSNBC is 'allowed' to have their weeknights so long as the rest of the time they 'catapult the propaganda' for the GOP.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:38 PM

 Honeycombe8 (12,227 posts)

13. Newt stated the oft repeated meme that Biden was speaking to a black audience...

when he made the chains comment.

All the other panelists, and Gregory, were silent and let him get away with that. Are they afraid of Newt?
 
I tweeted a short: Newt says Biden was in front of audience of blacks. But the audience was MIXED.
 
I doubt anyone read it, but I tweeted, anyway. Why don't people "in the know" KNOW and SAY anything?
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:17 PM

 muriel_volestrangler (60,503 posts)

15. It's a fine balance - between telling the truth and not

Gingrich and Fiorina are professional liars. Brokaw and Kearns Goodwin have jobs in which they're meant to communicate the truth. And Friedman doesn't care whether anything he says has any relation to reality, as long as it sells his books and the gullible praise him for 'insight'.
 
Think of it like the riddle with the man who always lies, and the one who always tells the truth. You can figure out what is true if you ask one side what the other would say, and then take that as a lie. Just ignore Friedman completely (which is always a good idea).
 

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:22 PM

 Whisp (13,770 posts)

24. I don't know Goodwin but Brokaw is not much of a truth teller. n/t

Response to Whisp (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:34 PM

 muriel_volestrangler (60,503 posts)

25. That may be true, but he's *meant* to, in his job

I was just grasping for a way you could call it 'balanced'.
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:21 PM

 vanlassie (1,261 posts)

17. So Tom Brtokaw and Thomas Freidman were supposed to balance Gingrich and Fiorina?

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:06 PM

 coalition_unwilling (12,341 posts)

21. haha. I stopped watching MTP back in the run-up to Operation Shocking and Awful

and haven't looked back. (My wife made me stop watching, b/c she was afraid I would throw my coffee cup through the screen or would scream incoherently so loudly that our neighbors would call the cops .
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:13 PM

 JoePhilly (13,412 posts)

23. Watched Melissa Harris-Perry on MSNBC instead. Much better.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:36 PM

 Berlum (708 posts)

26. David Gregory )R) is a MASTER - A Master Republican BrownNoser

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:01 PM

 WCGreen (42,641 posts)

28. Which is why pratically no one watches this shite anymore....

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:03 PM

 SoapBox (3,413 posts)

29. Really?!?!?

...oh.

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:23 PM

 mojo2012 (96 posts)

30. This was a very bad MTP segment today

You'd think this was the Newt Gingrich Show. I can't believe he is a guest speaker on every network. I'm really getting annoyed with his rhetoric like he is the only one that knows the answer to everything. Everyone can see that Newt just likes to hear himself talk and I'm quite frankly tired of hearing his voice.
 
As far as Carly Fiorina, she was fired as the CEO at HP because she couldn't run a big company, then tried to run for the Republican Senate in CA and lost. So now, she's trying her hand in media as a FOX business commentator.
 
This was the most one-sided commentary with journalists who couldn't facilitate the running mouths, tippy toeing around every word so they wouldn't "offend" the guest speakers.
 
It was disappointing at the very least....
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:25 PM

 Faygo Kid (19,416 posts)

31. Well, at least I like Doris.

David Gregory is the biggest Tool this side of Candy Crowley.
 

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:30 PM

 WI_DEM (29,834 posts)

32. Since David Gregory took over Meet the Press it's ratings have skydived.

I'm sure he'll be out soon.
 

Poor David. He managed to take a successful show and turn it into a something even the biggest DUmmie won't watch anymore.







.

 

[jukin]

It should be renamed to "Meet the Democrat Party Bullet Points."

Newt eviscerated Tom Freidman. I thought Tommy boy was going to cry after admitting that he is a pro-infanticide democrat (aren't they all though?).

[txradioguy]

Here's what's got them upset:

DAVID GREGORY: Understanding, Mr. Speaker, the difference between Todd Akin talking about rape versus the abortion plank in the platform, I understand there is that distinction. Nevertheless, the question, social issues versus economic issues as being a big motivator for women, is a question.

GINGRICH: Let me just take a second to disagree with Carly, I think Todd Akin was the choice of the people in Missouri, and Todd Akin has publicly apologized. And I think that the last poll show he’s beating the Democratic Senator. I think that we ought to go on from that, Karl Rove said some terrible things on Friday for which he has apologized which should remind us, people make mistakes. Vice President of the United States-

GREGORY: He was joking about if he shows up and murdered someone.

GINGRICH: No. In the age of Gabby Giffords, it is not a joke to say that a Member of Congress ought to get murdered. And I’m frankly, fed up, with the one-sided bias, okay. Let me give you two examples. Vice President of the United States goes to a black audience and says if the Republicans win you will be in chains. Now, where is the -- how can Biden remain as Vice President? Where is the outrage over overt, deliberate racism? And we talk about people saying things they ought to get off tickets. How come Biden shouldn’t get off the ticket? Second example, the Democratic Party plank on abortion is the most extreme plank in the United States. The President of United States voted three times to protect the right of doctors to kill babies who came out of abortion still alive. That plank says tax-paid abortion at any moment, meaning partial birth abortion, that’s a 20 percent issue. The vast majority of women do not believe the taxpayers should pay to abort a child in the eighth or ninth month. Now why isn’t it shocking that the Democrats on the social issue of abortion have taken the most extreme position in this country and they couldn’t defend that position for a day if it was made clear and as vivid as all the effort is made to paint Republicans?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2012/09/02/fed-gingrich-calls-out-media-refusal-focus-extremism-democratic-platfor

[Carl]

Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:29 PM

 aint_no_life_nowhere (16,241 posts)

9. Repubes are still saying Obama had complete control of Congress during his first two years

according to Carly Fiorina. Gregory just sat there looking happily stupid.
 

Did I live in another universe for those two years or were dems the majority party in both the House and Senate?

[JohnnyReb]

Lets see here, a very liberal MSM isn't leftist enough for the DUmmies and if there is one white person in a black gathering, it's a MIXED crowd and if there is one black person less than half at a supposedly white gathering, then it's not a MIXED crowd.

Damn my head hurts.

[USA4ME]

aint_no_life_nowhere

Repubes are still saying Obama had complete control of Congress during his first two years

I continually find this to be funny.  During the first 2 years of Dear Leader we had:

WH - Dem

Senate - 57 Dems
               2 Independents (caucused w/ Dems)
             41 Republicans

House - 255 Dems
            179 Republicans

And yet, if you ask the primitives, the Republicans controlled Congress.  Some even go as far as to claim the R's ran the whole gov't.

Now if the numbers were reversed, would the primitives say the Dems controlled Congress?  No.

Ask them and you get into this "Senate not veto proof," R's vote in lockstep," etc... nonsense.  This is one of the most obvious issues in which to point out their hypocracy and mental disorder.

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[jukin]

I continually find this to be funny.  During the first 2 years of Dear Leader we had:

WH - Dem

Senate - 57 Dems
               2 Independents (caucused w/ Dems)
             41 Republicans

House - 255 Dems
            179 Republicans

And yet, if you ask the primitives, the Republicans controlled Congress.  Some even go as far as to claim the R's ran the whole gov't.

Now if the numbers were reversed, would the primitives say the Dems controlled Congress?  No.

Ask them and you get into this "Senate not veto proof," R's vote in lockstep," etc... nonsense.  This is one of the most obvious issues in which to point out their hypocracy and mental disorder.

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The democrat party relies on people being very stupid and easily manipulated. They are the party of the mentally challenged and gullible.