Du Dissects Goose, Lays Egg

[zeitgeist]

It is always amazing how naive and child like DU posters really are.

I actually arrived at this thread from within another thread but there was just so much
stupid in this one I couldn't resist bringing some of the funnier stuff over.



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longship (13,438 posts)

Few working at Staples make a living wage.

 Minimum wage. Less than 30 hours per week. No benefits. No opportunities for advancement.
 
One of my brightest friends worked there for a period and he told me all about it. It sucked as a place to work.
 
Staples sucks.
 

I see.  Very insightful.  Staples Sucks.  Got it.  

CreekDog (32,817 posts)

82. when the economy is no longer based on good jobs, there won't be another good one for most people

you should know that.

that's why we are trying so hard to do things that strengthen the economy and help workers get pay that allows them to be middle class.

 

Well ok then I guess that about sums it up.  

Gormy Cuss (25,617 posts)

88. No, it hasn't always been hard. There used to be strong unions
and lots of manufacturing and production jobs for persons without higher education. Hell, many good paying union jobs went to people who didn't even have a high school diploma. I know. I was raised by one of those limited education union card holders. At the end of his career he had four weeks of paid vacation, ten paid holidays, ten sick days, health insurance with no co-pay, short and long term disability, shift differentials and double pay for working holidays plus he received a sizeable pension when he retired. He wasn't unusual for his generation. My father-in-law and most of my uncles had similar deals.
 many good paying union jobs went to people who didn't even have a high school diploma. I know. I was raised by one of those limited education union card holders. At the end of his career he had four weeks of paid vacation, ten paid holidays, ten sick days, health insurance with no co-pay, short and long term disability, shift differentials and double pay for working holidays plus he received a sizeable pension when he retired. He wasn't unusual for his generation. My father-in-law and most of my uncles had similar deals.
 

I wonder, did these unions price themselves out of the market?  Hum?

former-republican (186 posts)

63. The only way IT was possible was by

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manufacturing jobs , textile industries , chemical industries , glass manufactures . etc
 
My father was able to support and raise a family working as Teamster in the textile industry being a machine operator.
 
Those jobs have left the country and are never coming back.
 

Ah ha, so why did they leave??

longship (13,438 posts)

16. For Christ sakes, you don't get it, do you.
Staples isn't the only company doing this shit. In retail, they all do it. In the service industry, they all do it. In case you haven't noticed, for a HS grad, that's about the extent of opportunity. Hell! Too damned many college grads are working at ****ing Staples, because that's the extent of opportunities these days. What the **** do you do with a BA in English if you didn't get an education endorsement? How about a bachelors in almost any field?
 
There are probably many MS and PhDs waiting tables.

Your response is off the rails.
 

Stating off with a prayer?  

Honeycombe8 (12,156 posts)

64. I don't believe that, actually.

I don't believe someone with an MBA from Yale is applying for a cashier's job at Target. Unless they've decided just to stay around that area to wait for the economy to improve.
 
But someone with an MBA from Yale can move to the right city and get a job. What, I don't know. I don't know what people with MBAs do. I'm a college dropout. Maybe the problem is the MBA? You sort of have to know how to DO something, don't you? What did people with MBAs do before the recession, I wonder?
 

Do I smell    

kestrel91316 (41,047 posts)

113. You don't understand. In this thread we have a Texas conservative and an Arizona conservative,

both making really cold, insensitive statements about people struggling to make ends meet.

Not everyone on DU is liberal. Some of them manage to stay here for a long time because they hold one or two liberal views. But you need to understand what they are really about, and that they do not give a rat's ass about the working poor or unemployed, or anyone else, for that matter, other than their corporate masters.
 

And wait 'till the Southern RTW DU trolls find this.  Oh boy are you gone a get it then.

moondust (7,488 posts)

110. It's the OWNERS who deserve all the money! The OWNERS!
The people who sit in padded chairs under air conditioners planning their weekend golf trip!

Not the little people who do all the work! They don't deserve anything!

But seriously, the garbage pickup guy came by a few minutes ago and it's hot and it smells and I couldn't help but think that if anybody deserves a 6- or 7-figure salary it's THAT GUY and not some useless vultures in padded chairs.
  

reformist2 (1,458 posts)

111. So true. The more you think about what ordinary people do, the more equal you want pay to be.

And thus we bid a-DU to anoher fine thread at the  DUmp.

[BEG]

You people are stupid, those jobs aren't meant to be career jobs. They are for high school, college kids, moms who want a job so they can buy their kids Christmas presents, etc.  Yet now with Obama's wonderful economy it is people who use to support their family on their income alone but have lost their job and this is the only thing they can find. Yeah, let's pay a McDonalds cashier a "living wage" then your hamburger will cost you $20. You people are such children.

[marv]

I'm glad I'm a school dropout. But I had to wait 'til I was 54 to retire.........

[miskie]

You people are stupid, those jobs aren't meant to be career jobs. They are for high school, college kids, moms who want a job so they can buy their kids Christmas presents, etc.  Yet now with Obama's wonderful economy it is people who use to support their family on their income alone but have lost their job and this is the only thing they can find. Yeah, let's pay a McDonalds cashier a "living wage" then your hamburger will cost you $20. You people are such children.

This whole 'living wage' thing is utter crap. Most of the time one gets paid what one is worth. In this current economy, one may need to settle what one can get - and I agree - being a register jockey at Staples was never intended as a career position, but Obama's "Summer of Recovery" has forced many people to work in positions like these for as long as possible.

Oh, and By The Way..

Staples Careers, Retail Jobs & Staples Hourly Wage, Benefits

Staples has over 1,500 retail locations with more than 91,000 employees, Staples provides large amount of career opportunities at its stores, home office, call centers, delivery hubs and sales office.

Job Opportunities
Full & part-time associate positions
Cashiers & Customer Service
Copy & Print Center Associates
Staples® EasyTechsm PC Experts
Product Specialists
Leadership Positions
Search Retail Store positions

Benefits

Staples offers medical, dental, life, dependent life, accidental death, vision and disability insurance.  A pretax flexible spending account (FSA) with company match. Benefits are available to both full- and part-time workers and their families, including same-sex spouses and domestic partners. A minimum of only 20 hours per week is required for most benefits.

All associates can purchase Staples stock at a 15% discount via Employee Stock Purchase Plan.

Staples' 401(k) Savings Plan matches  50% of all contributions (up to 6% of salary) in Staples stock.
Staples Hourly Pay

Staples pays EasyTech Associate average $8.90 per hour range from $7 to $12. Sales Associate Hourly Rate: $8.58/hr, from $7 to $10. For Sales Manager, yearly salary is $43,260 on average,range from $33k to $50k.

What is the minimum wage?
The federal minimum wage provisions for covered, nonexempt employees are contained in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA). The Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007 included phased increases to the federal minimum wage.

For work performed prior to July 24, 2007, the federal minimum wage is $5.15 per hour.

For work performed from July 24, 2007 to July 23, 2008, the federal minimum wage is $5.85 per hour.

For work performed from July 24, 2008 to July 23, 2009, the federal minimum wage is $6.55 per hour.

For work performed on or after July 24, 2009, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.

Many states also have minimum wage laws. Where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.

Various minimum wage exceptions apply under specific circumstances to workers with disabilities, full-time students, youth under age 20 in their first 90 consecutive calendar days of employment, tipped employees and student-learners.

Once again, you prove franksolich right. Liars.

[JohnnyReb]

Wasn't it the DUmmie hero Bill Clinton that said he was going to take us from a manufacturing based economy to a service based economy?So Dummies, get out there and service some people.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

They can't even live up to their own propaganda.

They keep saying economics is consumer based as opposed to supply side.

Yet, they never consider costs to consumers when plotting their idiotic employment schemes.

[jukin]

Last week on Dennis Miller some avoid democrat party member in good standing said that it was not the detroit unions that gave jobs at $75K/yr that were at fault for detoit's demise. No the problem was with the southern states luring away businesses at $55k/yr that were the cause of the detroit big fail.  My mouth really did drop open. The reason that mean old Usain Bolt won the 110 mtr was because he ran faster....and that's not fair to all the twinkie eating sony psp couch potatoes.

I. Shit. You. Not.

[Vagabond]

Gormy Cuss (25,617 posts)

88. No, it hasn't always been hard. There used to be strong unions
and lots of manufacturing and production jobs for persons without higher education. Hell, many good paying union jobs went to people who didn't even have a high school diploma. I know. I was raised by one of those limited education union card holders. At the end of his career he had four weeks of paid vacation, ten paid holidays, ten sick days, health insurance with no co-pay, short and long term disability, shift differentials and double pay for working holidays plus he received a sizeable pension when he retired. He wasn't unusual for his generation. My father-in-law and most of my uncles had similar deals.
 many good paying union jobs went to people who didn't even have a high school diploma. I know. I was raised by one of those limited education union card holders. At the end of his career he had four weeks of paid vacation, ten paid holidays, ten sick days, health insurance with no co-pay, short and long term disability, shift differentials and double pay for working holidays plus he received a sizeable pension when he retired. He wasn't unusual for his generation. My father-in-law and most of my uncles had similar deals.

They forget that the Unions fight new production technology and that caused a lot of manufacturers to shift production overseas.  Then came the free trader uber alles crowd that thinks anyone can compete with Chinese slavers.  That is what hurts our manufacturing.